We need this Car! Manual BMW M4 1st Drive G82 | 4K
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- čas přidán 25. 09. 2021
- What a difference, this manual M4 is more of a driver car compared to the ZF8 auto version we get in the UK. Let's keep our fingers crossed the new M2 comes with a manual option!
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Hi everyone, just wanted to thank you for the continued support 🙏 Please remember to leave any content ideas below for this car ⬇️ Cheers
Thank you for all the consistently good quality content you produce Joe 👌🏁
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all these videos are treasure for bow fans so thanks. if I may have one suggestion it would be to have more voice over videos. as much as we're ok seeing you we much rather see more of the car. Good job tho!!!
Great vid Joe...Let me ask you this, what would stop someone from tuning this standard G82 6 speed manual to the Comp ZF 8 speed numbers? Would the clutch be an issue over time and would an upgrade in that department be essential or no?
Joe is it frozen black for frozen dark grey? Looks awesome!
It's very refreshing to see a manual in such a car. As is said so many times, too many people focus on outright speed which is plentiful in an auto but nowhere near as engaging. It's such a shame it's not available here in the UK.
Looking forward to seeing more of this car. Keep up the good work Joe.
Cheers man, thanks for your support 👊
Did BMW UK make this decision on the basis of eg. recent previous M5 vs M5 Competition sales? If so, stupid basis of decision making isn't it, because they weren't differentiated by availability of a totally different type of gearbox. Also some previous BMW manuals were more mediocre than this one, and there's as many great manual roads as anywhere here. So what were BMW UK thinking? Please slap them.
100% agree. Not available here because only 2% of the f80/82's were bought as manuals. Hardly a financial Incentive for BMW to bring this car to the UK. Generally speaking they all use the same ZF gearbox as used in the 1M but uprated with twin clutch plates. Very few people in the UK have driven a manual f82 but you'll read lots of negative comments about them from owners of DCT equipped cars! The DCT cars had lower monthly payments when new because of predicted higher residual values and that's one reason they are so popular. The manual drives like an old school manual turbo car coming off and then on boost between changes, it feels and sounds great while making the car less aggressive and jerky. They're great, find one, drive it and decide for yourself. Grab a competition and they're lower in numbers than an M2 CS so really rather special.
It’s your honesty and humility Joe! That’s what makes your content special.
Thank you David 👊
Wow. This version in black looks absolutely awesome. And you’re right, the manual should be an option in the UK!
Badass in frozen black...
@@setup3030 absolutely!
Totally agree 👌
Joe, sometimes it feels good to change hands
😂 Best comment ever!!! 💦
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Thanks Joe. Long live the manual! You hit the nail on the head - less power & torque but who cares, with a manual, you're using more of the car, more of the time and you are engaged and rewarded duly for being so. Thank you BMW Germany for producing such a wonderful modern day sportscar (albeit not a great looking one :D)
Been waiting to see a test of the manual version. Great job for delivering. 👍
Thank you, hope you like the video 👌
Really enjoying your most recent content Joe - it’s very well put together in a relaxed style. Just a proper old school car review and it really works!
Cheers Paul glad you like it 👌
When someone love BMW, love the honesty of Joe...
#1 Joe well done
Cheers man 👊
What an amazing review/comparison.
All information you could wish for is included. Brilliant!
So little out there on the manual G80/G82 - so this is great to see. Looking forward to more content - and how you reflect at the end of 2 weeks with the car.
Thank you 👌
Nothing like an M manual car, must be a joy to drive! Cheers from Colombia
Looks like a stunning location / car / driver combo Joe. Some incredible shots and commentary. LOVED IT!!!
Such a slick presenter. Hardly any edits at all but the content is top class.
Hi Joe. Just picked up an m340D. Thanks for your review. Its brilliant!
Another amazing Video Joe. Thanks for sharing.
Great stuff mate. Loving this spec!
Awesome video , I have the G80 manual and I’m so happy that I chose the manual over automatic. I look forward to your next videos of this car
I have a m3 g80 in manual. It was the best choice of my car life. These are very fast cars. You will not miss the power unless you track the car. Please drive these cars. They will blow your mind
Good review Joe, never thought i would see a box M, I have just let my mapped xm3 comp go so this has made me feel better .
Thank you 👊
Definitely one of the best specs out there for the new M4 🚀 Talk about LHD/RHD challenges - at least you kept the wing mirrors on 😂 Glad you enjoyed the roads mate, and great video as always! 🙏🏻
😂😂😂 Thanks buddy, looking forward to our dinner date next week ❤️
Joe! What a nice surprise! This M4 looks the business! Didn’t see this video in your list!
Great review everything you say about the torque curve makes sense!
Great new content Joe! Really enjoyed the contrast between models. I suspect that this manual M4 while down on power to the M4C; has a nice plus as an engaging driver’s motor. Looking forward to the autobahn and the ‘Ring!
Great video. I look forward to the upcoming content on it.
Oh yeeeeesssss manual Joe, ,,,,,,manual mate nothing beats a manual thats the proper way to drive,, thank you for the content,,, and thank you for the manual bima👍👍👌👌👌👌
Words cannot describe how I feel about manual BMWs (or beemers in general). Yes Audi has their Quattro drive system, and Mercedes has the massively flashy and fancy interiors. Nothing cuts it for me quite like a BMW. Currently looking for a manual M135i (before the most recent one), can't wait for my first RWD experience to be in something like that AND for it to be a manual too. Thank you for the content Joe, you're responsible for turning me into a petrolhead and a lifelong BMW fan!
Haha glad you share my thoughts buddy! Good luck getting your manual M135i and cheers for watching my stuff 👊
@@JoeAchilles1 About your point about many of these cars being fast enough (especially on UK roads), would you then think maybe a 2018/2019 118i would be better suited than a M135i/M140i? Because I, like you, enjoy "working" for the speed, I don't want to be able to get up to 70mph that easily in 3 seconds. Does that make sense? What do you think? P.S. a 118i is probably cheaper too lol
I had a manual M235i for about 4 years. With the mperformance exhaust it was a blast to drive. Loved every mile in that thing. Had 2 different M135is before that (pre and post lci) and the 2 series felt so much better to drive. Better rear grip too I found. Just my 2p but another world compared to a 118i. Not just in terms of engine👍
@@TheLogicprouser thanks for the advice mate, only issue is the 2 series is a bit out of my budget, and I also need the 4 door accessibility 🤔
@@reaperxi-0382 ah yeah that’s true. Fortunately it was just me and the Mrs so didn’t need the practicality. Good luck though, epic cars.
Hey Joe, when I manual swapped my e46 it did a lot more popping and crackling than when it had the slush box, I'm not sure what the science behind it is though, but manual vs auto does sound a little different, so definitely not just in your head! 🙂
Haha yes exactly! If you watch my YesAuto video on this car (filmed 24 hours later), I actually realise that too 👌👌👌
@@JoeAchilles1 I will definitely give that a watch and as always thanks for the great content 🙂
Great car, great review, good job joe!
Manuals are just cool aren’t they. I did consider going to a ZF8 when shopping for my M240i LCI but I knew I’d miss the engagement and the manual gearbox in my old 230i really made that car quite special. The M240i had a few more miles on it than I initially wanted but it was a single owner car from a bmw dealership and quite cheap so I’m more than happy with it. I hope this manual in the G82 can work it’s way to the M2 and maybe even the incoming M240i in the future, we’ll see I guess. Very cool to see you venturing out for more unique content Joe, some discussion type content with Robert and the guys at Apex would be really awesome to see 👌🏾
If that car was available in the UK with the manual box,I'd be in for one,the fact it's a bit down on talk and power,is not an issue,off comes that exhust then straight off to my tuner,NVM motorsport, it's a car I could do things with being manual, once again Joe,your content is always an experience worthy of the wait,your delivery, honesty and integrity are worthy of praise in this car world....
Awesome content as usual👍
Glad to see you in the manual M4! I plan to purchase an m2 competition but i’m not sure if dct or manual. I will use it as a daily. I owned an f80 m3 manual and i was not that happy when i used it as a daily and needed to stop and start again in the traffic but i loved the manual transmission when i drove it in the weekends. I’m so unsure what to choose!
Thank you for the good content and congrats for yout two mind blowing cars! Cheers
its amazing how the frozen color suits this car the best. specially black. badass
Great start. I’d like to see you do a city trip with the manual box. Munich is a great place for lunch, check out the oldest restaurant & try the pork knuckle. It’s awesome 👌
Can't say I've ever had the chance to test it, but my theory has always been if you want to go as fast as possible, get an auto, if you want to have fun, get a manual!
And that body colour :-o looks awesome!
The black looks great, always love that shift knob, had it fitted on my Mini Cooper S 👍🏿.
This is a great video. Love your content and presentation style. I’m currently leasing an M2 which I’m going to buy out for my wife and am torn choosing between an M3 manual and the M4 manual for my next car. Black Sapphire metallic, carbon package, black interior, bi-colour wheels, laser headlights. This car stock apparently traps 121mph in the quarter. That’s a lot of power and an awesome trap speed for a car of that weight.
Awesome machine... Color is dope😎👍
I love my manual G82, definitely won’t miss the extra HP and torque on the competition.
You’re not alone on the base manual car,my g80 bas manual is a joy to drive, great experiences in a car doesn’t always boil down to ease of use and speed 👍🏼👍🏼
Another very enjoyable post, I really want an M4, will let you know if it ever happens 👍
Looks amazing in full black exterior 😯😯😯
Got news for you. You’re on the correct side of the car and road now! 🤣
Great video and content. I agree to send that much and skip over the Harmon Kardon sound seems an odd choice.
I love the manual in my Ford Fiesta ST. Feels good in your hand too.
Great video Joe. Those German roads do look like an absolute joy to drive on. Maybe I should take my new 128ti over there next summer! Cheshire's potholes are getting a bit tiring for sure.
That color is stunning makes the grill looks bad ass
Great video as ever Joe - I always feel the same in lhd, something about leaving your weaker hand/arm in charge of the steering and then your brain perhaps thinking the h pattern should be flipped!? Look forward to further updates on this.
Beautiful absolutely beautiful
Love the colour scheme on that m4. The 0-60 doesn’t sound much better than the m340 (I guess just the xdrive?). Would be good to see whether those brakes are worthwhile. Great content Joe. Keep it coming. 👍
Great review. Love that m4
Thank you 👊
Can't believe how mean and beautiful this looks in black
Fascinating video!!!!
Hi Joe, nice review. In terms of content ideas: since you’re on a road trip - what’s the range on a full tank/mpg, ride comfort, overall road trip suitability. Would you in fact be better off with a M340d for a long road trip?
Colour definitely helps it not look as hideous! 6MT FTW!
The extra suppleness you are feeling probably isn't softer springs, it's reduced unsprung weight from the carbon ceramic discs. Reducing unsprung weight does magical things to the way damping feels, its by far the biggest advantage of cermamics in my opinion. I have a GT4 with PCCB's which are switched out for iron discs for the track, great for running costs but there is a noticable penalty in acceleration/damping/responsiveness
Great video again! Interesting what you said about the torque curve. I remember you reviewing the uk spec x3m competition and saying the lack of low down torque didnt suit the car. I wonder if on a german spec x3m non comp has more grunt lower down like this m4 does?
Hot spec, great video!
Looks stunning in matte black.
I really do love the M3 and M4 I need to get one!
I think you should follow Misha around the Ring in the Polo and try to keep up haha
Hey Joe, congrats for the great content you always share! I am ordering my M4 Competition in October, would be great to see some content with aftermarket exhausts, if you have the chance to get some cars for testing :) thinking about Supersprint J-Pipe on mine. Any plans to modify yours?
I cant believe I am saying this but Jeeez this manual M4 looks sick!!!!!
The love of bmw
Ohh yes ❤️
The G82 looks so good in this spec
Driving vlog through the Black Forest would be cool for us over the pond to see.
FYI, in Germany we don't use blinkers when going in or inside the roundabout - only when leaving it :D:D:D
Awesome car, and manual is just the best thing to have..definitely thinking of a G87 :O
Is the Frozen Black a new colour for MY22? Or has it been there as an Individual colour? Never seen it before & it looks absolutely incredible
"sixfootfour" on a Joe's shirt, finally! :-D
Agree with regards to using your right hand to change gears in an LHD car especially coming from a left hander here 🤣 great review mate, would make a good alternative having a manual option and base M3 in the U.K
As your so close, it would be great to see how the M4 does around Spa.
If your worst issue is mis-shifts, you’re doing well. When I moved to Germany I kept smacking the inside of the drivers door with my left hand as I came into corners 😆 BTW I just got a new m340i in Tanz blue, and loving it .
this car looks good
Great car..saw one last weekend in a nardo type gray and was impressed other than then front end. Looks very modern. Sounded nice enuff. Long time M owner with e46, e92, and F80 M3s and now a F82 M4. Great cars…interested in your thoughts on it! Enjoy it! 👍🏽
Hey Joe, do a 0-60mph and to a quarter mile so we can see the difference between this and the Automatic Competition Model. Also would be cool if you took this around a track (the one we all want in particular) vs. the Competition Model
Hi Joe, would love to see a B3 vs M3 Comp real world review. With the M3 gaining so many fans based on its performance and ‘livability’ I wonder where the B3 now lives. As a huge Alpina fan, can you shed more light on this? In the U.K. only you and Chris Harris are in a position to give us to deets! I’ll badger Mr. B if needed 🤣
Another great video.
Thank you ❤️
@@JoeAchilles1 I really look forward to you vids Joe, always great content & shot perfect.
This spec is amazing
Better in frozen or sapphire black? Great video, i am gonna order one this saturday.
Hey joe, great video. Would like to see you film bmw welt or bmw m division aswell😄
Great episode It would be so cool if BMW made a basic M3 or M4 i.e fabric seats and no radio and so on 🤞
Joe - Please comment on the heel/toe downshifting in this G82 manual. That’s something I enjoy really trying to get right - seems like every manual downshift is a unique experience. Please also advise if this M4 has automatic rev-matching on downshifts - I hope not!
Enjoy!
This is what it’s about! Cut above the rest! Bringing us something M no one else can! Let’s get a traction off day somewhere safe/skid pan and see how high you can score on the drift system?
Although, only 12.24% of people in the UK are left-handed. It would probably be easier for you to get accustomed to shifting with your right (if you're right-handed), than a right-handed person having to learn to shift with their left.
That's very interesting and true, I'm getting to grips with it now 5-6 days later 👌
@@JoeAchilles1 That's great . . I'm sure it's more enjoyable for you now as well. Surely , years of muscle-memory is almost as difficult to overcome.
Welcome to the "right" side Joe.
It's better 🤛
Guys, it’s Comp or standard that defines the gearbox option. LHD Comps are only auto too!
Please let us know how the seats do over the week and if you recommend them. I ordered them on my car and honestly I think it’s a must for the model. Just my humble opinion.
cool car🤯
It probably doesn't suit your style but I would love to hear your take on other things like how well the car lights work, etc
Joe, I find my '21 F87 6MT shifts 1st to 2nd not as smooth, as 2nd to 3rd and beyond. Hows the shifting ease in finding the sweet spot and having a smooth go 1st to 2nd in this M4 at slow, medium, and fast acceleration. Which car has the better do you find.
This and M5 CS are my dream cars (New cars)
The knob in the right hand, don't see any problem 😉
wonder if a gearbox conversion to the manual is possible in the ZCP cars. probably possible since it’s the same drivetrain with different tune. and probably just have an uprated clutch that can tolerate ZCP’s torque.
Hi Joe, great review, would love to drive a right hand drive in the UK! Competition great but what if you want a basic more involved experience. Same thoughts about entry level 911. There both missing a trick.
Cheers
How is that paint job holding up? Do you absolutely see every piece of dust?
Hey Joe! Break down the great ratios of the manual to the auto pls. Let's see just how much torque they've cut from the auto to the manual one!
Would love if we got the manual over here. The sales were very low on the F8x so I can see why they’ve dropped it. Hey joe I’d love to see your thoughts on evolves red e92 comp pack with the full Eventuri kit...
Nice Video! What about the brakes? Are they worth the premium? Thank you?
Know what you are saying about the right hand shifting Joe, used to visit my bro in the states (sadly passed due to a motorcycle accident 3 years ago) and he had a manual Mustang Boss 302, I felt like a learner driving it! :)
Excellent video Joe I don’t believe the Karman upgraded radio is standard on M2 M3 M4 here in Canada either it’ was a $1000 option on my M2C.. Now we do get the manual option here which is what I would spec on an M3 if I were to buy one Id like to more it is a shame BMW did not developed a bespoke manual for the G80/G82 the transmission is a carryover from the B58 model cars. I suspect it’s kind of a way to sway more people to the Conp model ZF but indeed the manual is a nice option.