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John Lee - 1 of 3 - Passivity
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- čas přidán 4. 09. 2024
- John Lee speaks about Passivity in this first part of a three part series. He covers the foundation of this psychological phenomenon, including what keeps us paralyzed from getting what we say we want, and then motivates us to toward the things in life we claim we don't want. Passivity is the condition that is at the root of much unhappiness and sadness for those that are gripped by it.
This is very hard to take. I am so blown away by this. I had no idea.
+Ray Kaelin same here
So bloody profound...thankyou John...Arohanui!
This hit hard....
This was good. Can't believe there's not much of this topic on CZcams.
I've listened to John, Robert Bly, Michael Meade, even Robert Moore (a bit deeper)since around the late '80's/early '90's... If you can find recordings of their stuff, it's all real growth food. Robert Bly is on youtube here and there. A big regret is that I tossed out some Bly tapes that didn't interest me ten years ago... It was probably very valuable stuff that I just wasn't ready for... A Hindu/Buddhist saying: "If you are ripe (for learning/development), a leaf falling will do it...If you are not ripe, the whole tree can fall on you and nothing happens."
_CZcams is a metaphor for your psyche_
An Humble Messenger of the Law of One maybe after a year of meditation I’ll understand what you mean
Ouch , right in the childhood
I KNOW he's speaking the truth because hearing it is pissing me off!
You're obviously a good man with a lot of character!
This is very interesting, I find the identification of passivity in myself very difficult, it's been my 'normal' but I find I may not be able to identify the 'root' but I can identify the 'fruit' i.e. what in me's not working. I see one has to be very intentional and pull down your own 'grids' to get a revelation which you can actually more on. What do you think? Sorry for the jargon trying to make a concise point.
I find that the less passive I attempt to be - for myself - the further people distance themselves from me because it represents aggressiveness (I assume) to them... I may speak at a certain volume level (not yelling, btw) but I believe they are "hearing" their father when he was raging at them or the family, therefore they are somewhat terrified and will run to "safer" ground...A girlfriend from a few years back told me that she was upset at me because of "something I said"... When I insisted that I didn't say it, she said, "I KNOW it's not what you said.... but it's what I HEARD!" So wtf am I supposed to do about THAT? other than to neutralize the situation (by becoming passive)... or leaving... So I usually leave - for both of us - which is also "passivity". But leaving is what most people expect to happen.... because most of us feel abandoned.
This is strange to listen to 40 years later when I was involved with that first men's movement. I'm not sure I get where he is going with this. For all of us, we have times of action and times of passivity. There are other times we are out of the game altogether. I see passive time as the time we use to heal. Like in the winter, the trees look like they are doing nothing but that is the time when a lot of things are happening as they are getting ready for spring. Sometimes we are passive because we are just tired. We're tired of the spouse who wants us to be something other than who we are. We are tired of the job and spreadsheet violations that says we are "under performing." We're tired of the alienation that comes from capitalism or industrialism. We're tire of being bombarded by ads and politics saying go this way or think that way. Sometime we have to hold up our palms and say enough then take our time to heal. In my 60s, I don't buy into a lot of this.
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"For everything there is a season, and a time for every matter under heaven: time to be born, and a time to die; a time to plant, and a time to pluck up what is planted; time to kill, and a time to heal; a time to break down, and a time to build up; time to weep, and a time to laugh; a time to mourn, and a time to dance; time to throw away stones, and a time to gather stones together; a time to embrace, and a time to refrain from embracing; time to seek, and a time to lose; a time to keep, and a time to throw away; time to tear, and a time to sew; a time to keep silence, and a time to speak; 8a time to love, and a time to hate; a time for war, and a time for peace" (Ecclesiastes 3:1-8).
... every NOW, is a new beginning, middle, end...
Be still, and "know" that "I" am God... Go and search for I, me, self, and see what happens. Every-thing, and every-ONE, requires a reference. The great deception is the concept of self. Put all concept of self aside, and reside, to dwell, and remain with that for a while, without judgement. You may find a... connection, a meaning-full relationship, and even a purpose... For, Our Love Is Only Ever Equal To Our Humility And Our Gratitude For Our Confidence And Our Prowess That Stabilises Our LOVE...
BLESS EVERYONE BLESS EVERYTHING, ALWAYS...
signed by...
the ROCK OF PHAGES...
wow!!!!
Okay this is as LIBERATING as it is a ball crushing - better to be aware of your own internalised illusions and mind-tricks you pull on yourself than sleepwalk through life with broken glass inside - which can be safely removed given you start to pay attention to integrity and being REAL.