Does ZOS Actually WANT Feedback?

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  • čas přidán 16. 02. 2024
  • #elderscrollsonline #esofam #pts
    What is the point of the PTS if not for feedback? Does ZOS actually WANT or CARE for feedback? Hasn't felt like it for some time unfortunately.
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Komentáře • 35

  • @jeffreymccambridge9012
    @jeffreymccambridge9012 Před 4 měsíci +7

    Engaging with players can always be dangerous (see Bungie), but does wonders for player morale.

  • @brandonamsler9898
    @brandonamsler9898 Před 4 měsíci +6

    I would love to see other classes get brought up to Arcanist. Also I can’t stress enough that an Arcanist nerf is not the answer. Instead of destroying fun characters, classes, and sets cause they are “best in slot” or have ease of use, I’d love to see a buff to make them in line with them.

    • @wynngwynn
      @wynngwynn Před 4 měsíci +1

      they're constantly saying they want to bring the lower bar up and arcanist did that. I have an issue with my arm where I can't do LA weaving for long AT ALL but the length of beam allowed me to get arcanist rotations for quite a while before my arm would give up. A person who can LA weave would do higher dps with a DK etc on parses it's not like Arcanist was the top. I agree the shield for content should've probably had a nerf it was so overpowered you could use it on rockgrove hm in the portal without needing to bring a heal. I don't think their damage should've been messed with much though.

    • @samuraichicken2315
      @samuraichicken2315 Před 4 měsíci

      Agreed. Although Fatecarver is likely overpowered, it isn't just the damage. The beam passes through all the enemies, allowing massive AOE damage. If they kept the damage the same but replaced the penetration with a 5 m AOE cleave (like Tri-focus with lightning staff), then you could still have the same single target dps while allowing other classes to be competitive.
      Then there is the other issues such as Cephaliarch's Flail. This skill:
      1. Does damage
      2. Heals the user
      3. Immobilises the enemy
      4. Debuffs the enemy
      5.Acts as an execute.
      Compare this with a skill that has very few other abilities such as the stamsorc Crystal Weapon which is mostly pure damage. Can you imagine how uneven PvP is in such circumstances?

  • @Supadrumma441
    @Supadrumma441 Před 4 měsíci +3

    Honestly it feels like ZoS really doesn't give two sh*ts about the community so long as crown crate sales stay the same.

  • @theshenanigans3463
    @theshenanigans3463 Před 4 měsíci +2

    Pouring one out for Tormentor...

  • @danhensley
    @danhensley Před 4 měsíci +2

    Templars radiant ward skill has been bugged (missing animation) for like 2 months now :(

  • @williamwilliams4538
    @williamwilliams4538 Před 4 měsíci +2

    After the events of update 35 and finally dealing with the last death blow to the werewolf in which the devs completely ignored any comments from the players in regards to update 35, why would you think that the devs are going to change now they don't even play their own game I don't play much ESO anymore there's no point

  • @Mionikoi
    @Mionikoi Před 4 měsíci +1

    I kinda get that feeling to. I don't think some folks in the community help with the added toxicity however. I understand the frustration, it is warranted. But I think there is a conflict between those who are trying to maturely approach the topic and those who want to vent their frustration. I am not sure what it will take to bridge the gap between player and the devs in a healthy balance. I do know it will take two.
    The other thing I want to address is that people should probably stop expecting the devs to give much away on upcoming features. They love surprising us and they will keep things close to the chest. What I think we can do instead is critique the failings of delivery... Which I am sure we already do.
    So I guess the thing we could try hardest to do is to try and fix the bells and whistles that is the game.

    • @eget4144
      @eget4144 Před 4 měsíci

      Developers do even act like grown ups. They act like a fragile teenager. This makes players more frustrated and then more toxic. At this point I think developers do not even go to forums because of the mess they created.

  • @Akrotiriken
    @Akrotiriken Před 4 měsíci +1

    I'm concerned about the change to blast bones. Not really liking the change to a buff. However i do recognize that the skill needs a rework. Blast bones as it is is clunky, and the ai for targeting is somewhat broken. In all honesty what I'd like to see is blast bones turned into a spirit attack that functions similar to the warden subterranean. assault.

    • @wynngwynn
      @wynngwynn Před 4 měsíci

      on live my blastbones would "get lost" and I wouldn't be able to cast the skill without relogging. Hopefully at least the necro won't be unusable for me anymore lol.

  • @jacobodom8401
    @jacobodom8401 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Overland Combat Feedback has a dedicated thread for over 2 years, and they have done nothing to address any of the criticisms. That should tell you a lot

  • @eget4144
    @eget4144 Před 4 měsíci +7

    Developers do even act like grown ups. They act like a fragile teenager. We are talking about people who banned people for just mentioning PvP at Twitch a stream. I heard there were huge ban waves at forums for pointing out problems of the game many years ago. I do not know how can anyone reason with people like these so maybe it better if they do not take any feedback. I also think they should not release balance patches as well because after they stopped messing with the game every patch, the experience got better.
    I hope ZoS will fire most of developers to hire newer, more mature, more capable ones but I bet this wont happen. Kudos to artistists and area designers tho.

  • @RagingRevine
    @RagingRevine Před 4 měsíci

    The classes need to be balanced out a bit and for me, it feels like the combat team consists of NB, Arcanists and Magsorc because that's all i see. Classes like Warden, Necro and Templay aside from majory brut/sorcery have to use abilities to get all these other buffs while those 3 classes, especially Arcanists have access to all the good buffs without needing to do anything or pic between tank and damage.
    It's ridiculous that those 3 classes have as much survivability as they do and burst, without suffering any trade off for it, while having access to invisibility and blinks without hindering ability slots. And to top it off, they have access to the DC set which makes them so absurdly annoying.

  • @ItzGenesis
    @ItzGenesis Před 4 měsíci

    You gotta keep in mind: everything that is being changed by zos is because they are gonna sell you the solution. They create an inconvenience and sell you the solution (usually with the new chapter).
    You know why all the class sets are completely useless? Because they are free.
    I remember they nerfed something to do with crit, dropped Kilt nex patch.
    The patch that necro was released: what was the good groups composition? Oh yeah, 6 necros.
    Nerfed Heavy attack lightining (most easy aoe and cleave damage), and guess what? Arcanist (not even to mention the Velothi's mythic).
    This patch, when you see the really good groups, world record pushes or trifectas groups composition, 6 Arcanists at least (rest is there for buffs)
    Every single patch they nerf the stuff 3 - 6 months before the expansion and sell you the solution to that inconvenience that they made.
    They have been doing it for 8 years and if you truly go back a couple months before each expansion, the exact same happens.
    Every person that truly does endgame pve or pvp knows that every expansion and/or dlc has a mythic that gives you an advantage or does something in a much better way than previously existing gear, because its always based on "for people to buy the content, we need something that is better than the previous one", which creates this insane power creep every year. Thats why 70k dps back in the day was crazy but today is nothing.
    So every time (or at least most times) you see them making stuff that doesnt make sense, is very likely soon you will know why. I'm guessing one of the scribing skills is gonna be an Aoe taunt (random tormentor nerf out of nowhere)

  • @samuraichicken2315
    @samuraichicken2315 Před 4 měsíci

    The devs completely ignored the players and we got patch 35. The long term playerbase still has not recovered and if the devs don't listen, they'll do it again but next time there will be no one left except newbies and casual players.

  • @user-su7fr5jv5t
    @user-su7fr5jv5t Před 3 měsíci

    They think they know whats good for us then xynode reinforces that.

  • @calebcarney1933
    @calebcarney1933 Před 4 měsíci +1

    We need unarmed mythic or skill line

    • @Supadrumma441
      @Supadrumma441 Před 4 měsíci +2

      Yep when equipped gives your fists equal to weapon damage and counts for the 2 piece set bonus

  • @quito787
    @quito787 Před 4 měsíci +1

    It's not just not listening to feedback. ZOS customer support is also garbage to be honest. They don't help at all.

  • @jadedj5385
    @jadedj5385 Před 4 měsíci +2

    The forums are a strange place. The community there is pretty negative when changes are suggested. The measure of hostility for suggestions ranging from optional features to cosmetic will have you thinking they are under ZoS payroll.

    • @samuraichicken2315
      @samuraichicken2315 Před 4 měsíci

      If you ignore or gaslight people often enough, you get a community that always expects the worst.

  • @SkyrimBeast
    @SkyrimBeast Před 3 měsíci

    Cooper, I've been watching your videos for several months now. I have to disagree where you say ZOS has a vision about ESO. ZOS has been making class, set and skill changes so long as I remember. This gives me the impression that ZOS absolutely doesn't know what they want ESO to be. At this point, I think ZOS is going to continue making changes that intentionally piss people off.

    • @Cooperharley0204
      @Cooperharley0204  Před 3 měsíci +1

      Yea - it comes off like they don't a lot of the time even when they state that they do. More of a cautiously optimistic attitude for me? Who knows.

  • @Centurion305
    @Centurion305 Před 4 měsíci

    Judging from Rich's streams, the answer is absolutely not and we will ban you from the steam if you do so much as question our decision making 😂

  • @KachZz
    @KachZz Před 4 měsíci

    Of course they don't - then they would actually fix things and improve lol

  • @ZenithDBD
    @ZenithDBD Před 4 měsíci +1

    i really dont wanna be that guy but saying yee the devs dont do what is best for the game so i will justz play whatever they release until they release something new thats fucking outright stupid. instead of PLAAING whats new and best maybe try? not playing it at all? that applies for everyone i have idk 500? hrs or so in eso not much but thats enough to make the following statement.
    STOP playing the new things until they rework the old stuff its as easy as that? what they gonna do if nobody buys new dlcs? right listen cuz never change a running system. as long as they make Profit out of the game they not gonna change their behavior. i literally refused to buy Necrom bcs NEW classes shouldnt be obtainable via Money instead make every class free instead? or atleast bring them into eso plus

    • @eget4144
      @eget4144 Před 4 měsíci +2

      ZOS do not care about your money. A minority of players pay the majority of the money to them.

  • @newworldforward1842
    @newworldforward1842 Před 4 měsíci +4

    I used to be an avid poster on the forums about 3 years ago and they perma banned me for "baiting", this is what happens with ZOS. Some woke moron reports a comment he feels offended by and the poster gets banned, even though there was no violation of any forum rules. I appealed about half a year ago to have my account activated again, but ZOS said no. There's just no way to redeem yourself(even though I did nothing wrong). If you post a lot on the forums it's just a question of time before they ban you.

    • @Centurion305
      @Centurion305 Před 4 měsíci +3

      The ESO forums are just FILLED with woke nonsensical people 🤦🏻‍♂️ It's painful to even read some of the forum posts in there but ZoS does a phenomenal job making echo chambers that promote them

    • @jacobodom8401
      @jacobodom8401 Před 4 měsíci +2

      Been there, some of the users there are just the worst