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Buck Master "PB-12" Push Button 12g Shotgun
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- čas přidán 9. 11. 2022
- There's so many Turkish shotguns out now from the Adler, Bushmeister, Dickinson, Pardus, Sulun Arms but now the Buck Master is here which is a manually operated 12 gauge shotgun that allows fast followup shots through the push of a button to manually cycle the bolt forward prior to firing each time. I had trouble loading the 5th shell into the magazine tube and I didn't like that the pic rails are synthetic. Overall though it allows great fast and accurate followup shots ideal for control feral pigs and other feral pests.
Check out our review of the Bushmeister BA-X12 lever release shotgun: czcams.com/video/ixJdP4AfKk0/video.html
Hi mate I just tried to send email about a stoeger m3000 tactical if you would like to do a review on, but if won't send. Let me know if you're interested I'm on the coast 👍
That’s a handsome shoty and it looks good and shoots the way I want a shotgun to shoot expensive but good to have it in our market thumbs up 👍
@@cameronhutchinson3192 I m having trouble as well
Yeah I have found no reviews on it on CZcams yet
Will it come with a pistol grip?
Thanks god, you put the copywrite symbol all over the rapid fire shotgun. That should slow down Sam Lee appearing on a current affair.
Life finds a way... I can't wait for these sort of actions become the new legislative battleground, I'm surprised they have gone unnoticed for so long.
I think thankfully because of the increasing global tensions the government is caring a little less about cracking down on this stuff tbh
Well, they won't now!
I had no idea push button manually operated shotguns existed. Interesting design.
New rrp in eastern states is about $1575.
Magazine feed issue was identified with first batch. Has now been fixed with shorter tube spring.
28” guns cycle perfectly with 28gram shells.
Left handed forend guns now available, but still ejects on the right side.
Kay, for those who purchased one in the first batch is there anyway to get the magazine updated to rectify issue?
Are these cat A lever release for a pta? Nothing on weapons licencing for button release?
ive had mine for 2 months now and having alot of isues with cycling all loads, ejects no dramas but wont cock and hold the bolt back...
Very frustrating
@@Fitty9HD even 00 and slugs? Maybe try 3 inch to loosen up the spring?
Do I trust the government not to move the goal posts and loose it.... Yeah I got unsubbed too.
Good stuff mate nice review. I might update my lever Adler.
Fark!!! I haven’t even finished the intro and I’ve decided I’m getting one
Yeah but he keeps posting rapid fire shit you wont have it long totaly pissed off my end
@@user-my8zo8uh3n makes no real difference. He isn't doing anything illegal, we're allowed to own this action and it serves a purpose. Stand by it, rather than hide from the anti-gun fuckwits that have no idea.
These are available for $1,550 in VIC now. Had a significant price drop.
i just paid 2150 for 20 inch synthetic.. would of loved to pay 1550 instead lol!
@ASHES TO ASHES DUST TO DUST Hey, which shop did you see it? I`m looking for a walnut version, but couldn`t find one. Thanks
That price is effing ridiculous for a Turkish made gun.
@@truetalon like we have a choice.. look at an old cat c winchester pump going for 400 on ozgun.. no one wants it or can get it.. absolute joke
Ignition Custom Engineering in Adelaide make +2, +3, and +5 tube mag extension kits for the PB12. Also a machined aluminium 12G follower which slides better down the tube. Might help your loading issues.
@@cyphend8771 some states theyre cat a, so its legal to have any size
@@notmkr-busta2937 where?
@@jasoar1563 pretty sure I seen it cat a in sa
@@notmkr-busta2937 umm just got mine and on the permit it said a cat but when i did they permit originally the guy said it was b so i dunno?
They never have any stock available.
Thank you. great stuff I have the Akkar semiauto and love it. We here in NZ still have some gun left and its great the Turks are trying to give us useful firearms in spite of those who want no firearms in public hands believing it affords them some privilege. Love your channel cheers to your great health.
A beast unleashed. Pay for quality. The ultimate feral pest firearm.
Hi Ozzie,
Please do a video review of the “Templeton T2000”
Thanks mate 👍
It's a myth gun. Doesn't exist.
Cheers for doing the review I love my Buckmaster I have not had any dramas loading the mag might just be a one off problem.
Would love to see a review on the Templeton t2000 leaver release to compare with the buckmaster!
What a ripper. Love it. Love all your reviews mate keep up the good work. I’m going to keep asking but can you review the southern cross firearms Taipan? Cheers
Very similar system to the lever release AR15’s we had in the U.K. for a few years as we are not allowed semi auto rifles (apart from .22 rimfire). Excellent idea but unfortunately got banned not long ago.
Thing is that ban has quite large loophole. If you were to use a source of energy other than gas from the round (e.g. a 12 g CO2 cartridge) then it'd still be legal.
Of course lever release shotguns are still legal, the only reason I can see that you'd want one is to have a
@@TheAlexagiusI always see you in the comment section complaining about the firearm laws in the UK. Move to the United States, we need more individuals like you. 🇬🇧->🇺🇸
@@801_adventure_trek4 easier said than done my friend, but I am trying. Legally moving without marriage or being diverse is pretty much limited to sponsorship by a company. As such I am working and trying to finish up my PhD so I have something of value to offer.
And what do they do? Stop new purchase or take them off you? Do they pay you for them.
@@jyeprice9382 had to be handed in to police before a certain date, compensation was given but I don't know how much.
They've come down around $500-600 depending on where you shop. Bought one the other day (July 2023). Can't wait to get it out to farm.
where did you shop if you don't mind?
Where?
@@strider5119 where did you buy it from
Cut a 1/4 coil off the spring. Had a similar issue back in the day with a Winchester riot gun.
So, I have recently got the tactical version and have had no problems loading the 5th shell. Slides in easy holding shotty over my shoulder, sliding the shells in with my thumb.
id love to upgrade the push button itself to metal as its plastic and i can see it getting broken fairly easily. its such a cheap feeling gun but still my favorite shotgun
G'day mate, you should definitely be uploading your vids to rumble as well. it's really growing as a platform these days and won't demonetize your vids either. I've heard of people making twice as much money on rumble and they won't ban or delete your channel for putting a toe out of line
Looks much better than the other one you just reviewed
another top review, thanks ozzie.. this looks like just the thing for maximum pest (and body) punishment
subscribed, an awsome bit of gear there. Might have to be my next prchase.
Finally a shotgun I'm happy to buy hope it's legal in NSW
Good 12gauge shotgun. Got buck master but only pump system. It’s the best for the price. Got it only for 300$ . By the way, you can change to the pistol grip it’s universal or from side company’s for turkish shotguns
Appreciated my friend!! Have you had a chance to shoot the Templeton T2000?
omg... gonna order straight away!!!! cheers mate
Ah, the hoops we have to jump through to make our government officials happy. I thought they worked for us.
Gotta admire the creativity tho, just like the U.K. "rod pistols"
They work for Freemasonry. The enemy of Christianity and Christians.
I wonder how long they will allow these.
This would be amazing if it had a 10 round magazine like the Berika.
Hey mate, huge fan, been watching your videos for 10 years now. Would love to see a video on your preferences for selecting a shotgun/rifle action. For example the difference between straight pull, lever and bolt action and the affects on follow up shots, reliability and accuracy. Thought it would make a fantastic addition to your beginner series. Kind regards Jesse. P.S What would be your preference for a rabbit/fox everyday farm shot gun be. Buckmaster PB12 or Miroku MK70 sporter? cheers mate
4th time subscribing farout!!
Keep up the vids mate love it
Yes mate it's very real, they are taking my subscribers away without your permission every month! Thanks for re-subbing
Great review, thanks Ozzie 👍
Awesome review Ozzie as always. Gee it just highlights how emotionally idiotic our laws are. I reckon my old Mossberg 500 and Winchester 1200 pump action shotguns would shoot slower than this one. This shotgun would be incredible fun and great use on rabbits and foxes plus pigs and deer (within range) as a do all gun. Personally I am waiting on the Templeton 2000 push button (with the release action button positioned in the 'thumb safety' position of rifles like the old Ruger M77 and A Bolt 11 rifles) which is due to arrive in the next couple of weeks. As always thanks for sharing and sorry to hear how CZcams has been mucking you around. Stay well!
It also shows how great human ingenuity is to overcome stupid laws. When there is a will there is a way.
hey there, reckon u could share a vid of u using the templeton? thinking about selling my adler
I agree, new tech is advanced to the level and beyond that of simple pump actions and this push button action is dare i say almost semi-auto fast, so why not allow pump actions with 5 shots again. I resisted the lever action and straight pull and the thumb lever shotguns but these push button types are really tempting me for a new shotgun, the pistol grip is good on this because the button is on the foregrip, I doubt will see a "tactical" pistol grip templeton, but that doesn't bother me as a person should be able to use the templeton one handed if needed. I think that one will be on my new years resolutions list "buy new shotty" haha
@@AvGas502 haha I’m on my juniors and bought an Adler, now trying to sell it for 20inch Templeton
would love to see this vs the new templeton button release
I'm just waiting for GCA to crawl out of their hole. Going to buy one, just waiting for this review! That mag will loosen up with use.
everyone should go out and buy and enjoy these firearms i put a 50$ bet on it now within 5 years these will turn up on the news
Definitely want one! Great vid man
That'd be awesome for pig hunting. Hope someone brings out that action in 223
There's one on the way, I cant remember the brand though. Eureka maybe?
also CHIMERA PB-223
We owned one for 2 months, first issue was similar couldn’t sometimes the 5th round, then after maybe 4 boxes of shells the bolt seized to the barrel, took it to our gshop who noticed the rib had also started peeling off, rust under rib.. Was sent off to be fixed under warranty once we got it back put one box through and the bolt release button started getting to hard to push down. After 2 more boxes of shells the rib came off again and the right side button was a joke, returned the gun for credit. The idea of this gun is awesome… if it was made by a better manufacturer. We own a few Turkish guns that are beautiful guns this pb12 just wasn’t to be.
Shame to hear. Out of interest, what are the good Turkish guns?
@@chickenduke2897 Yildiz we haven’t had any problems with we have 3 two pro and a 20 gauge
Since i saw your video so i went to buy the Buck Master PB shotgun so i brought the Tactical Version because the pistol grip allowed me to shoot with 1 hand/ the Buck Master is hips of fun is a bit of a loophole semi auto for a Category A licence that shoots faster than a pump action shotgun
I wonder how long until the 'Fun Police ' (AKA Boarder Force) place a ban on the importation of these?🤔
Thanks for reviewing this !
Got the synthetic 28inch version and absolutely love it!
I got the 20inch synthetic, did yours have a picatinny rail on the receiver? mine doesn't, and the sights are a little different to the one in this video
@@MassLox Nope no rail on the receiver just a small rail under the forend. Not sure about the different sights on the 20inch version though I overheard that some of the 20inch buckmasters didn't have the ghost ring sights like the one in this video and instead had rifle sights or just the typical front bead sight. Other than that I'm not to sure sorry!
@@rizman2554 can confirm that mine doesn't have ghost rings, it's more akin to what you described, rifle sights with the high visibility Fluro rods.
First thing I did when I got it was email a local gunsmith to drill and tap the receiver for a rail, although will have to wait until January now to get it done.
Gas or inertial operation?
Whats the strip-down like with whatever linkage from the button under the handguard to the action? Is that why it comes 'pre-assembled' in the long case compared to ease of taking off the barrel on the other? 🤔
And how close are your fingers to the barrel pushing the button when youve run a few shells into heating the tube up?
Press-weight of the button - a light fingertap or need to deathgrip the forearm? Will leaning the forearm against a post pop the action closed by its own weight?
Gas operated
The 28” arrive in-assembled , I think it’s just that the 20” fits.
They seem to gas unlock assist, enertia operated
@@mk1developments m8 it's gas operated
It has no gas system or tube
It's inertia
Good operating system on this one.
That with a rifled barrel option would be handy.
need to make a .308 push button. my fear is its toeing the line too closely and gonna end up with a ban on all manual release guns like in the UK
Had mine for months now love it.
Do you have same problem with 5th shell loading?
@@7purse It was a bit tight but after a hundred or so rounds it got better..
Can you do the Templeton t2000 and the Sulun Arms TACSORAS/DUCDORAS
Had a crack on one of these last night spot light hunting, very surprised this is legal. Feels like any day legislation will crack down on these.
Any idea why yours has the picatinny rail on the receiver but mine doesnt?, also the front sight is different and I have a basic iron sight on the barrel
Same as mine it doesn't have the picatinny rail
Looks a little like the Dickinson, great review!!!!
BA-X12 , PB-12 , Templeton T2000 which one overall better ?
Still not sold on it Ozzie reason being fussy on lighter loads which going after birds need that follow up shot
get the 28 inch then its better for birds and shoots the lighter loads
Interesting one, the only worry is state government may ban this semi-semi shotgun in future! They try to tighten up the gun laws for sure!
Can you do the Templeton t2000
I can hear the ban hammer coming down in NSW
If a manually controlled shotgun is legal then a pump action shotgun should be too.
Any chance you could do a review on the chimera 223 lever release thanks
Hey Ozzie. Love your content. When doing a PTA in QLd for one of these what action do they come under ? Cheers
Cat A
got one a month ago, mine does not have the loading issue and can get the 5th in without much effort,
Nice review 👍
T2000 next?
Love the channel and all the reviews you do. Was really hoping you wouldn't review this one. I've had one for about 12 months now. And realised once their gets traction online for these everyone will want them and the government will try band them like they did the adlers
Totaly agree why shoot it so fast and post it banging on about utube unsubscribing then post a vid of rapid fire approaching semi auto speed WTF ????
Only a pussy would try to grovel in the corner instead of standing in the light. Do you really think the government don’t know they exist? They literally had to be imported which takes a lot of paperwork. Semi autos existed for nearly 100 years and they basically banned those.
thanks for the review. Not a semi-auto but I agree its slicker than a pump or lever. Just to stick it to poo-tube, I subbed ))
Great review 👏 now where do I get an Aussiereview bush hat ?
They are sold out right now unfortunately, I only have some gun bags left at ozziereviews.com.au
Sucks CZcams won’t let you take it down and look at the gas system. Is there any specific maintenance for the piston vs something like the benelli?
That unaubscribe issue may be the subscriber, for all the firearms or hunting channels i follow who have said this i have never been unsubscribed unless i do it myself
RIGHT ON MATE I BEEN ON HIS CHANNEL FOR YEARS ALWAYS BEEN GGOD STUFF BUT FUCK THIS IM DONE A
What category are these under in Vic?
Dude this thing looks legit!!! Are they legal in nsw??? if so I gotta get one. Cheers.
Cat A brother. Got one coming in next week. 👌
@@tracesofizi1782 cat A lever release?
@@tracesofizi1782 Cheers mate definitely buying one.
I have a 12 guage adleer a110, it has trouble loading slugs from the magazine but works fine with buck shot and bid shot. How is this thing with slugs ?
So can anyone tell me why this is legal and a pump action not . But a great review as always. Is this gas operated and how was recoil.How do you think this would be as a duck gun .I think I’m keen . Thanks again
because john howard watched bank robber movies when he was younger and got scared.
How about explaining how a pump action 308 is fine, but not a shotgun.
@@billythekid2281 there is no logical explanation!
@@billythekid2281 John Howard is scared of guns he watched some movies and made some laws
@@billythekid2281 pump shotguns weren’t even on the list back in 96” apparently one of the people involved put them on the list at the last minute.
No one at the time even give pump rifles a thought they just seen scary pump shotguns & put them with the others
are these legal in nsw?
Yes, Cat A
Hey Ozzie I have a question to ask, can I own one in Western Australia?
Hey mate, thank you for this one. Wondering if you can have a look at the Chimera PB 223
I love my Buckmaster pb 12
Templeton,adlern bushmiester or buck master?
Interested to know if the felt recoil is less or similar to the bushmiester. The action looks similar impulse based operation with similar results using lighter loads
I had mine for around 6 months It runs 28s fine .
Have you had the problem of loading the fifth cartridge and if yes did it improve over time or was something fixable?
Never had a problem mate
@@stuartford7585 pretty sure the mag spring was shortened slightly to fix the issue
I'm in the process of getting one it doesn't come with the case or top picatinny rail
What splat targets are those? I really like them
Price has come down to $1199 for the gen 2
Really enjoy your presentations. First rate! How can I order one of those sexy shotgun cases here in North Carolina USA ?
Send me an email and we can sort something out for you ozziereviews@gmail.com
Would a magazine extension similar to the one put on Adler's a few years ago be feasible?
great review like all your reviews keep up the good work only one thing and i might be getting old but when loading you put one in the spout then load the tube when you were puttin in the 5th round i was gettin worried for you and i haven't been kicked off the subscribe yet
Too review Ozzie!
You made it look like it cycles slow.....
They definitely won't try and ban it.....
Mmm. Think this would look great next to my Verney Carron veloce. 😊
The push button should be further forward and the picatinny rail on the stock gets in the way of my hand.
Sight pic rail is actually alloy but it’s not weaver widths had to replace mine when adding a red dot. No biggy as I ditched the ghost ring and front sight at the same time.
Great review as always what category class do you apply for with pta to purchase one of these mate
Cat A
And yet we still can't have a pump action shotguns on a b 🤷♂️
I’m subscribed with notifications on, just not getting your videos suggested on CZcams. I have to get the new video alerts via your Facebook and then come here. Strange
Compared to the bushmeister the into battery is damn quick! Almost as fast as a semi! Thanks Ozzie!
shush!
Hahaha shhhh!
@@Jaeger-bi8tz nah no need to shhh man, it is what it is, I’m just stating what’s in the video 😅
I have a question for you-I have a Adler b230 tactical 12 gauge shotgun that’s a straight pull,I want to trade it in for a Templeton arms T-2000 button release 12 gauge shotgun. Do I need to get a new PTA because the Templeton is not a straight pull or are they both classified the same action but just different mechanism to activate the bolt ? I’ve spoken to my local gun shop dealer and he said I shouldn’t have to get a PTA because both shotguns are bolt action but they just have differing mechanisms to reset the bolt,but when I spoke to a bigger gun shop in Toowoomba they said I would need to put in a PTA because it’s not a straight pull shotgun ? Are these guys just trying to make more money out of me or what ? I couldn’t find anything on the Queensland police website about firearms and categories regarding these two types of shotguns.
Your adler is a bolt action. The Templeton is a button release. So you can’t do a like for like swap because they have different actions. So you will need to submit a new pta. Read the weapon categories regulation 1997.
@@ckg1776 yeah I already have submitted a pta, should be getting it by the end of the month. And ive already traded the adler in,was glad to see it go,worst shotgun ive ever bought and used.
@@ckg1776 there was no such thing as a button release back in the 1990s and there of course is nothing in the regulations so its classed as a cat A . The straight pull,the lever release and the button release are all bolt action and its only the mechanism thats different,this is what weapons licensing said to me over the phone here in Queensland, so you tell me what's the go then bloke-i dont think weapons licensing even knows what they are talking about,so I put the pta in because its a cat A firearm ! You happy now.
@@Healthliving1967 It is in the regulations because any shotgun that is not a semi auto, full auto, pump or a lever action is cat A in QLD. The lever release is actually a cat B because it is a lever. Whilst not a traditional throw lever it is still classed as a lever so it is cat B. The button release is neither a bolt or a lever but is an “other” on the dropdown box when you do the PTA. The people at weapons licensing are mostly useless in regards to the law. The good thing about the button release being cat A is you can extend the magazine tube as cat A has unlimited magazine size. I have seen a 10 shot getting around.
Once again this firearm proves that the boffins in Canberra are a complete bunch of muppets. As quick as a pump action and slightly slower than a semi auto.
Will be reclassified soon after they see this, no doubt about it.
Shhhush dont talk about or it becomes another adler 50,000 cycle rate shotgun in @ 1 second
So you can get this under Cat B?
Does anyone know what mechanism this gun uses? Like is it inertia or gas driven?
Gas
Must be gas driven, surely!
Inertia it has no gas system
This is actually better than a pump action shot gun and so beggs the question, why are pump action shot guns still banned.
Because people over reacted after a mass shooting and made laws for fun that don't make sense..
At the time pump shotguns were the main high volume shotgun. Since then we have lever, straight pull and now push button. Considering that there is no reason that pump shotguns should be restricted. You should be able to own them on cat A,B.
Problem is the laws were written by politicians with no idea about firearms.
@Fortunate Son laws made so restrictive with the assumption it would reduce crime and mass shootings. Mass shootings are so rare that even with restrictive laws they can still happen considering that 99% of gun crime is illegal firearms already.. laws don't work at all. But the media has brainwashed the entire country through US mass shootings that they work. Although they don't.
What choke system does it use? Looks a bit like the one Adler uses but hard to tell.
Flush mount/internal choke. Beretta Mobil choke compatible.
@@troyhogarth8793 awesome thanks mate 👍
But what choke did you use ??? Thanks