Damian Lillard submits trade request: prefers Heat, interested in Spurs | NBA | FIRST THINGS FIRST
Vložit
- čas přidán 2. 07. 2023
- Nick Wright, Chris Broussard and Kevin Wildes react to Damian Lillard’s request to be traded from the Portland Trail Blazers. Reports surfaced that Lillard prefers to be traded to the Miami Heat, to team up with Jimmy Butler and Bam Adebayo. The cast also react to a report which indicates Dame’s camp is interested in being traded to the San Antonio Spurs, who selected Victor Wembanyama with the 1st pick in the 2023 NBA Draft.
#FirstThingsFirst #NBA #DamianLillard
Download the free-to-play FOX Bet Super 6 app: foxs.pt/3z96p0j
SUBSCRIBE to get the latest from First Things First: foxs.pt/SubscribeFIRSTTHINGSFIRST
The all-new FOX Sports App, built for the modern sports fan: tinyurl.com/y4uouolb
►Watch the latest content from First Things First: foxs.pt/LatestOnFIRSTTHINGSFIRST
▶ The Carton Show's CZcams channel: sprtspod.fox/SubscribeCartonShow
▶ The Herd with Colin Cowherd’s CZcams channel: foxs.pt/SubscribeTHEHERD
► UNDISPUTED’s CZcams channel: foxs.pt/SubscribeUNDISPUTED
► Speak's CZcams channel: sprtspod.fox/SUBSCRIBEtoSpeak
► FOX Bet Live’s CZcams channel: foxs.pt/SubscribeFOXBETLIVE
► The Skip Bayless Show CZcams channel: sprtspod.fox/SUBSCRIBESkipShow
► What's Wright? with Nick Wright CZcams channel: sprtspod.fox/whatswright/youtube
See more from First Things First: foxs.pt/FIRSTTHINGSFIRSTFoxSports
Like First Things First on Facebook: foxs.pt/FIRSTTHINGSFIRSTFacebook
Follow First Things First on Twitter: foxs.pt/FIRSTTHINGSFIRSTTwitter
Follow First Things First on Instagram: foxs.pt/FIRSTTHINGSFIRSTInstagram
Follow Nick Wright on Twitter: foxs.pt/NickWrightTwitter
Follow Chris Broussard on Twitter: / chris_broussard
Follow Kevin Wildes on Twitter: foxs.pt/KevinWildesTwitter
About First Things First:
Nick Wright, Chris Broussard, and Kevin Wildes team up on First Things First. The trio offers their take on a bevy of sports stories alongside special guests from across the sports world.
Damian Lillard submits trade request: prefers Heat, interested in Spurs | NBA | FIRST THINGS FIRST
• Damian Lillard submits...
First Things First
/ firstthingsfirst - Sport
Check out the Number One College Football Show w/ RJ Young podcast for your College Football fix: foxs.pt/no1showrj
Wemby smells like a bust to me. Come to Boston Dame!
it's not Basketball season.... what are you doing?
Highly offensive. Best fit for Dame is utah jazz. dame loves utah and players for weber st and has said he loves it here.
Somebody is clueless about the jazz. The jazz may not be ready fpr Dame but they have the draft capital players and traded Ainge. Suspect portland want good players, cap relief and picks. That’ll require five teams and a win win for all of them.
For example: Boston: snt dok simone 2nd pick
Nets: sexton 2nd pick
Suns: nurkic no pick needed tax relief
Portland: tht Johnny Ayton Williams Royce
3 frp all top 5 protected by jazz
Jazz: Dame and cam Thomas.
It all works!
Broussard is losing it. I swear he don’t pay attention to what the other 2 say. Ever. It’s annoying
What if lakers don’t offer Austin reves, Riu hachimora, Dlo and 2029 first round pick. Would blazers trade him to lakers ?
Brou keep comparing typical jobs to a professional athlete.... like bro, your boss can't trade you.
But they can release you into free agency
@@pokerani99😂
They can absolutely transfer you to another department.
I agree. By his logic, the Miami Heat should have stopped paying Chris Bosh once he stopped playing for them as opposed to the constant paycheck he still gets because he had to stop playing due to health reasons.
@@mca217wait fr ion know that
Matthew Stafford and lions fans is a more recent example of fans not being upset and a great comparison
I wish Barry and Calvin could have left
Lions got a starting QB + 2 firsts. Only offer that is similar to that level is Boston offering JB and picks.
@BDRmongoose the Lions didn't let either go ; both wanted a chance to win and the lions said no... being a Detroit native and seeing how they treated Calvin and Barry but allow Matt go somewhere to win its makes me mad all over again.
That’s a good one✌🏿
@@TheRobj0223they let Stafford go because of a rebuild they wasn’t in a rebuild with either Johnson or sanders
Thank you Wildes! I am a Heating and Air Conditioning technician so it was nice to hear about National Air Conditioning Appreciation Day!
We always appreaciate you for doing god’s work🫡. Seriously, where would we be if there were no air conditioners?
@@notbeforemay5thSaudi Arabians would literally die without it
Thank you for your work Jose!
Nick at 10:58 wanted to mention Shannon. Shannon wanted out which wasn't best for Fox but they agreed because Shannon had conducted himself in a professional manner throughout and had earned the opportunity to move on
Facts. Brou on this is wrong.
How can you definitively say what he was talking about, like how do you make that connection and you’re not Nick himself 😂
@@ICYMIINMIY because Shannon is the only person in recent history in their field that has left a show willingly. He bought out his contract and it was because he was always good to fox. Any sensible person could read between the lines. Nick just didn’t want to bring it up by name out of respect.
For sure he was talking about Shannon
The real ones already know where he was going 😂😂😂 Brou just had this same argument with KD and his nets and you saw how wrong he was on that. Around this exact time last year he had it
Brou got me frustrated watching from the comfort of my home lmao… God bless Nick for toughing that segment out. He made perfect sense to me !
One counter example is Kawhi. San Antonio sent him about as far as possible from where he wanted to go. And it worked out great!
Left after one season
@@rashidkatana9092irrelevant. That’s because he only had one year remaining. Dame has 4.
No clue how this wasn’t brought up in a 20 minute segment. Portland fans not being mad at Dame (at least a little) is crazy. Dame could’ve easily said he wanted out before the draft. POR knew what they’d of been offered for pick 3 days before the draft. If I’m a GM I’m busking a winning team, winning brings people in the seats it’s not that difficult.
As a raps fan, I’d re-do kawhi Leonard any day of the week.
@@AdamLovesHorror The whole time I was watching this segment I was thinking, "How has nobody mentioned Kawhi?!?!?"
Ok not bringing up Kawhi is strange
I was gonna say, that seemed like the obvious retort to when this last happened.
Kawhi was an expiring
@@bryanfoster326yeah but he also left after 1 season which is the ultimate proof of why other teams shouldn’t do it. Did it work out for Toronto? Absolutely. Was that a once in a million chance? Also yes
He left after one season but also brought a championship to the team. Which is why they took the gamble
@@johnlambert1571 yeah but that’s literally the most extreme example lol you can’t present that to everyone in the organization as a reason to make the move. Toronto HAD to win a title for that to not be a colossal failure
Brou is right.
The reason AD is in LA is because they gave up Brandon Ingram, Lonzo Ball, Josh Hart and every pick for the next 5 years. The reason KD is in PHX is bc they gave up two great players (Bridges, Johnson). If the blazers trade dame for Tyler Herro and picks they are doing their fans a disservice
True
Cam Johnson is a great player??!!!!! Foh
@@WoodfosterIINot really but in todays nba he is very valuable
I can honestly say a lot of people don't even know those 2 so called "great" players you mention. I know Bridges but Johnson who? 🤣
@@RealTalkMeNowyoure a casual
Everyone is correct in their arguments here. The best solution is the middle ground. The blazers should try their best to get Dame to Miami, but not if Miami is going to lowball and act like they are somehow entitled to Dame. It's up to Miami's front office to figure out how to make this work more than it's up to Portland. Get a 4th or even 5th team involved if you must but you aren't getting a superstar in exchange for table scraps. That's just bad business.
This needs to be a pinned comment
Table scraps don't make an NBA Finals as an 8 seed .
@@SirGeekzall those players are on other teams. Should of resigned those undrafted players for trade bait.
@@Sparx151rumWe let Vincent go so that proves to me Pat Riley will work his magic to get Lillard.
Feel like Miami is offering minimum because they know Dame specifically says “Miami” then here comes portland felt like disrespected to the offer coz they knew Dame is worth more than what they offer..
What Nick is trying to point out is that Blazers should have some kind of gratitude to Dame for all the service he made to the organization.
He got paid big while he was loyal to them, right?
@oesp2370 so your gonna sit there and act like he didn't earn every cent? Only favor that was done was him stayin 11 years
@@oesp2370 and he could have gotten the same money with better teammates if he left few years back. when someone chose to stick with you when he can get something similar + better you have to show a little bit of respect.
Yeah, it is called 400 million in salary . Did they make more from him? Sure, but last time I checked, a nba team is not a nonprofit institution , you don't like it? Made your own team, and you are going to see really quick how his perspective changed really quickly. It is easy to tell people what to do with they money when it is not your own .
“That’s what the money is for”
Wildes face and the zoom in when nick asked about that hockey player was gold! 😂
I lost it
Ikr 🤣👍🏽🤣
Nick is great at managing the emotions he creates 😂😂😂
He has too sense he makes up everything
@@brockvinson1712 I MEAN EVERYTHINGGGGGGG
He is making a point that Dame openly wants to play for miami. regardless if Miami could make the best offer or not
Dame will still be traded to the heat. Because that is good business
Portland owes dame nothing but to send him in the direction of where he wants to be and wish him well in his future endeavors
Thats is the unspoken rule.
@@rulerjayohenn3161Blazers dont owe a thing to dame. Blazers gave dame $450 million and dame gave them 1 trip to the WCF in a decade. great resume lol
@@rulerjayohenn3161it becomes an obligation. Like why would you botch a request to your 2nd or 3rd best franchise player ever? He's played there for several years, and have made some modicum of playoff success, and to trade him away for whoever on some other team would be a travesty and franchise media suicide.
Brou reached that point now where he just want to argue against ANYTHING Nick says whether he make sense or not lol
Nick is the exact same, just go back and look at the takes he had about Joker and Wiggins…And his current takes on Kyrie and Jordan. My god! 😂
@@FroZoneDeNiro Nick always been like that but not brou, he just started doing that recently & it’s noticeable cause I been a fan of him for over 20 years now because of the fact he wasn’t like that
@@sluglow6357 I can see that, I like it though…He was to passive and a push over before, Wildes would team up on him too.
@@FroZoneDeNiro I don’t mind it but sometimes, like on this one it don’t really make much sense lol I could listen them talk all day though whether I agree or not
@@sluglow6357 True, I can feel you on that!
Kawhi didn’t want to goto Toronto either
And he left for LA right after, what's your point?
They rent him for one year
@@Chrisfranco17 His point is that San Antonio shipped him where he didn't wanna be as an form of punishment.
@@josh35292 I Get That But Spurs Haven’t Been Relevant Since Post Kawhi Until Wembanyana, Toronto Won A Chip, & Kawhi Got His Wish Of LA
And the Spurs have yet to get a big free agent, since...
Nick just wants Dame to go to Miami. Lol
and Bru just doesn't want him to go to Miami
Lol but dame wants to play for miami 😂
@@cythefly lmao Broussards argument is the one that actually takes into account that the trailblazers actual obligation is to facilitate the best deal for them. Because that is kind of what teams have always done.
You and Nick apparently think the blazers should just trade Dame to Miami even tho Miami clearly doesn't have the type of assets that Portland wants. Without MIAMI bringing in multiple teams which makes the trade alot harder to do.
Say goodbye to your depth Miami.. Butler, Dame and a bunch of minimums
@@gman7497 Miami is going to have to find Portland some assets they actually want. Lol because if the reports are to be believed Portland isn't interested in what Miami has to offer.
I agree with nick, just because you can find a few exceptions in where superstars didn’t go to the places they want doesn’t mean it’s the exception to the unspoken rule.
The exception to the unwritten rule
How when he is wrong lol
What Nick mentioned were the exception on the other end
The difference in this case is the Heat don’t have the full assets to trade for Dame to satisfy the Blazers. If two teams have similar offers to satisfy a team, then sure the star player can go to his preferred team
@@Theinsideoutsider and even on top of that AD is a bad example because the lakers gave them by far the biggest haul any team could have it just so happened that he also wanted to go to the team that had the most to trade.
Nick Just spazzed out when he’s wrong 🤣🤣🤣 7:41
I think he's just trying really hard to make his point without bringing up Shannon Sharpe.
Why does two days off feel like so long when there is no FTF! Greatest show on any sports network.
Yeah!!
they are always arguing for absolutely no reason tho...
It's def a long time without hearing from the Boys. They do a great show with no BS involved and they're tied with "It is what it is" S/o to Cam And Mase! 👏 👏 👏 🔥
@@Ennetiit’s a debate show duh😂😂
@@dariusjohnson6013 isn't this a sport show? 😂 And if it's a debate show, can they argue over something less ridiculous than if Wembanyama will average 19 vs 20 points 😂😂
As a long time Blazers fan. Nick has never been more right. We want Dame to go win badly. We don't want him to end his career in the discussion for best player to never win a ship. We will always love Dame in Rip City. It can be best for him and for the team.
I want to add that the way you treat a superstar that’s been loyal like Dame will affect how future star players view your organization. Trade him to one of his preferred destinations.
Except Portland isn’t signing good free agents anyways, so it doesn’t really matter
Bingo! That's part of business too.
I’ve never bought into this narrative. Especially, for small market teams. These teams don’t get high priced free agents as it already is so they can’t afford to act all mom and pop store ish.
@@TheKidwondanah, but imagine if they drafted Wemby, then he saw them disrespect Dame after Dame sacrificed his whole career to try to help the Blazers win. I’m never signing anything past a rookie contract with that team.
doesn't matter for Portland. People dont wanna play here, we only win through drafting.
I wish Dame had requested the trade after the 2020 finals, similar position for miami but Dame wouldve been 3 years younger
Edit: never underestimate peoples ability to start arguments over nothing
He was a free agent in 2020 or 2021 right ?
with how well Curry is aging, Dame's age shouldn't matter much for the rest of his contract
@@n.willy4864 Damian Lillard came off a career-low 29 games played in 2020-21, and played in 87 games the past two years. Assuming Lillard will be healthy moving forward based on another player's situation is a fallacious argument.
@@michaeljohnson7945 steph basically missed all of 2020 season then hasn't played more than 65 games in a season dame has played in more than 65 games since 2019 except for last season and he's coming off surgery and still had one of the best offensive seasons last year. I agree with his argument being weird but steph is hurt just as much as dame
@@michaeljohnson7945 I'm talking about his quality of play, not health, as long as he's healthy for the playoffs Lillard, Butler, Bam with spo isn't losing to anyone in the east for the next couple years
I agree with the notion that in sports if you have a franchise player who has been nothin but good for you and the city morally you should try to work with that player to get him or her to a destination they “prefer” if they ask for a trade but realistically once you ask for a trade they dont “owe” you anything their job is to do wats best for the franchise moving forward
The player’s preference is the tie breaker if it comes down to two places to send him. But if Heat offers Tyler Herro and Boston offers Jalen, it’s not a tie 😂
I agree but teams are no longer making good offers when the player doesn't want to play for a particular franchise especially after teams saw what happened with Kyrie and the Celtics.
@@nolanko1265 yea the only way that would be acceptable is if ownership gives the okay to take herro over brown. Can't really go against ownership if they wanna help dame out.
People are forgetting that this CAN impact the organization in the future too. If a team gets the reputation/perception that they don’t treat their stars well, especially if they’re a small market team, they will be hurt in attracting star players in the future.
However, I don’t think the Blazers will get that perception from this unless they literally send him to Utah.
Jaylen brown 27. Herro 23.
Loyalty is dead ! Dame should’ve asked out a long time ago.
He was the one preaching loyalty the most though!
80% of the spurs fans appreciate & like Dame, but we can’t give up our picks lol. Just for him to take time away from our new guys
Indeed
Brou never knows nothing...he just waiting and then saying "see I told you" hahahaha classic
Sometimes I feel like Brou has decided that his “thing” is to be some sorta Skip Bayliss type. He has way too many moments where he can’t wrap his mind around basic points. Then he tries to make the “exception” the “rule” just so he can have a leg to stand on. Dude gets weirder by the day.
Yeah, it seemed pretty apparent what Nick was saying and Chris just wanted the argument
Brou just seem like a hater when it comes to the Heat. He didn’t like they went to the Finals this year.
@@AdanBean yeah…that’s what I took from it also.
@@quietnerdgirl he most certainly feels like a hater when it comes to the Heat.
Spurs literally sent kawhi to the raptors to spite him it just backfired lol
Exactly. I don't think they prepared for this segment
Utah was a terrible example being that he went to college there and loves Utah and it has always been on his short list of franchises he wants to play for.
THANK YOU
@@dMadOPfax and don't be surprised if he is a net
NO black nba players want to play in Utah 😂 stop it . Who in their right mind would choose Utah over Miami. What black super star athlete with millions of dollars wants to live in Utah? 😂 . You still have time to delete this stupid comment
Bs he said he wants to compete...Utah is not competing for a decade
Dame loves Utah but he also loves Portland. This trade for him isn't about the love of the city; he isn't saying "Trade me to a city that I have affection for." It's about a chance to win and with what Utah would have to give up for him, would put them no farther ahead of the pack than where he's been with Portland the last decade.
Broussard face at 10:06 had me dying lol
I generally agree with Nick but if the Blazers get similar offers from Boston and Miami, but the top of Boston's offer includes Jalen Brown it would be downright malpractice to accept getting Herro instead.
Yes that is true, but only and only if they include Brown, because without trading Brown it is blasphemous to say Boston has better options
@@Chrisfranco17why would celtics trade for dame if he doesn't want to play there.
@@Warn_A_Brothahe hasn’t said that and he just wants to win.
@@Warn_A_Brotha Media saying its possible, I for one know its not happening
@@Independent609 Would trading Brown for Dame really be an upgrade? Considering Dame doesn’t wanna be there and Jaylen is a lot younger
I used to side with Bru a lot of time back then but lately Nick has been on a roll and right
It’s a good point most stars have never been traded to the team that they didn’t want to go to, but there is an exception Kawhi Leonard to the Toronto Raptors. He did not want to end up there.
The point Brou is making is spot on. Sure, a star player won't be traded to a tanking team, but as long as it's a decent, championship contending situation they will go and play for a team "they didn't want to go to".
Kawhi to the Spurs is not Dame to Portland
And he and the Raps would have won another chip if he had taken the one-year extension.
PG to OKC too
@@zingisamahlasela don’t understand I was saying that Kawhi Leonard did not wanna go to the Toronto Raptors
Nick: "This is one of those instances where I think we're arguing even though I think we actually might all agree." A succinct and precise description of the vast majority of sports media shows.
There are actually quite few examples missing.. RECENTLY actually.. kyrie..again, to MAvs even though he wanted to go to lakers. And the grand example of all? Kawhi to Raptors (ironically he wanted to go to lakers also)
Here is what Chris Broussard is not understanding: Recent NBA history shows that players the caliber of Damian Lillard largely don't get sent to dysfunctional or rebuilding teams. A contending team believes a player like that can be the missing link to a championship, and a few times it has been the case.
Using your examples, Kyrie Irving was traded from Brooklyn to Dallas, which went to the Western Conference finals the previous year. Kawhi Leonard got traded from San Antonio to Toronto, a perennial 50-game winner.
@@michaeljohnson7945 Boston? Sixers?
Kawhi didn't want the Lakers, he wanted the Clippers. He said he grew up a Clippers and Sixers fan.
@@DroneStrike1776 you are right.. it was the clippers..
1st, he was on an expiring contract. 2nd, Kyrie just signed for 3 years, it's evident he didn't mind being a mav.
This the #1 NBA Coverage ESPN drop the ball
He said he doesn’t wanna go to Boston and Mitchell wants to leave the Cavs already so why would any team put themselves in that position.
Because Mitchell isn't Dame. If I'm a gm with a chance to win, I'm trading for Dame. That's a player you can't pass up on. And Dame will be professional wherever he goes.
Wait why does Mitchell want to leave alreadY?
@@pfpchad2747 He may be a professional but that doesn’t mean he will be invested in the success of a team that will not be contending or a place he doesn’t want to go to. Being a professional means showing up but how far will that go in regards to a championship. So you get that and a $60M contract for a 37 year old down the road. Mind you, what will you be giving up if Portland wants someone that’s star level, a young player? Someone in their prime who can contend? Reports are coming out now that he strictly wants to go to Miami. If I’m a GM
I’m not spending that kind of money on someone who doesn’t want to play in my team and fully invested in the organization. That’s like dating someone that’s not into you hahaha
Wth, Donovan just got there lol. I don't know what exact situation this dude is hoping to find.
If I am Portland, he's going to be traded for another all star player, not what he wants.
10:06 hahaha Brousards face 😂
😂😂😂😂😂😂
LMAO that shot of brou 😭
Rasheed Wallace originally got traded to Atlanta and refused to play so that’s how he ended up in Detroit!
That's not true. He played one game for ATL then they traded him but no because he refused to play. He has discussed this on podcasts a few times.
The day had finally come for Dame to request a trade. I’m wondering what’s in return for the teams that want him. Heat are most certain he could be traded to but other teams could be interested depending on what to give back. As soon as Jerami Grant signed that huge contract, Dame was like yeah I’m out.
Well Dame wanted them to resign Grant but he also wanted Draymond to sign with them. On top of that Dame didn’t want the Blazers to use their draft pick and instead trade it for another star. They only did 1 of 3 things he wanted. He knew they weren’t taking him serious and decided now was the time to dip
@@ajwong4375 1.) Portland was 13th in the Western Conference this past season. Can you name one player on the market that could have taken Portland from the third pick in the draft to a title contender in one year? The only players in the NBA who could do it, in my opinion, are Giannis Antetokounmpo and Nikola Jokic, and we know they aren't on the market.
2.) Lillard and his agent met with the Portland general manager one week ago, and Lillard reportedly said re-signing Jerami Grant would be one of the moves that would appease him. Portland re-signs Grant to a massive overpay, then Lillard announces the next day he wants a trade.
3.) Another move Lillard reportedly said would appease him was signing Draymond Green as a free agent. Everyone knew Green opted out of his contract only to sign a new deal with Golden State, so you're not telling me Lillard thought that was a realistic option. Not to mention adding Green isn't going to make a team a contender.
@@michaeljohnson7945Portland was also injured most of the season and went for a tank job so nothing you said makes much sense.
@@michaeljohnson7945dame didn’t want portland to go from 13th to 1st… simply wanted a competitive roster he could take to the playoffs instead Portland drafted his replacement and kept another young PG
@robertoin7 "dame didn’t want portland to go from 13th to 1st."
I noticed I didn't say that, so good strawman.
I said "Can you name one player on the market that could have taken Portland from the third pick in the draft to a title contender in one year?" A title contender is a team that has a reasonable shot of doing more than just getting into the play-in or maybe a first-round exit. I also am waiting for you to name a player on the open market that Portland could have gotten with the No. 3 pick in the draft that could do it.
"simply wanted a competitive roster he could take to the playoffs."
This is the same player who is making $50 million per year, right? The same person who said he wanted Portland to re-sign Jerami Grant, and soon as Portland did, he announced he wanted a trade. So go ahead and name the player you think Portland could have gotten the Blazers from 13th in the West to the playoffs, given how Portland already is financially strapped without adding anyone. You don't go all the way over the cap even more with the hope of getting into the play-in, either.
Crazy how much better this show has got in the past 6 months.
i’ve been waiting for this episode for so long
He's right. I remember when the Cavs sent Dwayne Wade back to Miami to retire.
perfect example of a honoring a player's request
Him on the spurs is crazy, they have a lot of first round picks
bingo. Dame sole reason for leaving portalnd🙅🏾♂️
Bro as a spurs fan. It’s a no go. Who we grabbing to play with him??? Wemby at best 1st year will be around 18-19 8-9 rebounds
It feels like he'd be moving to the same situation he's trying to get out of, no stars to help him.. unless Wemby dominates from day one, which I don't see happening
Timeline doesn't add up. I'd love him on my Spurs but I'd rather he go somewhere with vets he can win with like Philly.
@@Independent609 it does in Dame's mind, he won a gold medal with Pop; maybe he feels like he's taking less of a risk knowing he's already won with Pop.
he could have also spoke with Lamarcus Aldridge about what it was like playing in SA and based his decision on that.
he's a high character guy and Pop would love coaching him but he doesn't fit the timeline of the team.
Brou telling facts
Nick literally killed Brou and Wildes arguments by simply asking “Gun to your head, where does Dame play next year?” The reason why everyone will say Miami is the only thing Nick was arguing but Broussard is dying to argue about minimum-wage workers and how they compare to NBA stars 😂
Brou is 100% right. Nick’s point about an unhappy superstar has merit as to how that may play into the negotiations between potential teams but business is business and Portland ‘owes’ Dame absolutely nothing. I’m a Heat fan but reality is reality.
except in the nba, treating stars bad is how you don’t get free agents. And nba caliber players are not readily available. You have to play it smart.
I think Dame would be cool going to BOS, MIA, PHI, or my sleeper MIL, MIL have pieces that bring value to POR or could be flipped in a 3 way to add picks. And Dame + GA would be insane
SCENIC ROUTE!!!😂
"What's he gone do, protest?" 😂
Broussard is talking out of both sides of his mouth 😂
Nasty
And both sides are correct.
Sometimes I feel like Broussard argues for the sake of argument. He knows how the NBA works. And Nick is spitting facts.
Imagine a world where a contract actually means something
Ask those laid off ESPN employees
Chris’s point made sense when he first started then it yanked at the end because how does the blazers all of a sudden think about what’s best for the team when they didn’t build the best team possible while he went crazy for them since a rookie this is absurd
Dame been consistently saying he will never request a trade to chase a ring. He doing exactly that..
I ain’t gonna lie if dame go to the bucks they can potentially compete in the finals in my opinion 💯🤷🏾♂️
Great points by Nick with those players wanting to go to their proceeded destinations so why can't Dame go to his ....
He’s not a free agent
@@BlazerManiacNumber96 neither was Durant or Harden but they went where they wanted to go ...KD had just signed a 4 year deal with the Nets where is he at today hmmm
@@CoachRJ334 Makes no sense for the Blazers to trade their best player and get nothing back
Kawhi didnt want to go to toronto
The guy on the left is always the more reasonable individual.
If they traded him for a place he didn’t want to go, that will be on the notes of every star when portland try to get them. They don’t talk about how that will damage the looks on portland blazzers association and I think any of those 3 should see that. No star will ever want to go there while that is remembered
Absolutely
Not only that but what about the future of the NBA stars. If they don't stay loyal to Dame as he did for them, players will note this particular time and make the decision to never be loyal to a team on how Portland didn't compensate Dame for staying loyal to them when he could've been left.
Yep, Dame is known for his loyalty, and if even with that reputation the Blazers still disrespect his wishes, no star player will sign a contract with the Blazers for the next 20 years (they’ll be stuck with the Jeremi Grant style overpaid deals).
Blazers have never signed a star as is. I sincerely doubt it matters
@@BlazerManiacNumber96resigning drafted players will also be affected (the next “Dame” is watching this to see if re-signing with the team after their rookie deal is a good idea).
Brou is missing the point, as usual. yes Dame will be a professional wherever they send him, but as a guy who has been their entire franchise for a decade, you do right by him. they will and he‘ll be in Miami even if Boston has a better package. because the rebuild really includes picks, not necessarily a star now
Two of Utah's 2023 draft picks were listed out for the Summer League Debut in Salt Lake City! Utah can get Dame if they want him and still have another big move to make with their assets while keeping Lauri and Kessler. Utah is the frontrunner in the Lillard sweepstakes if they want to be.
Brou is one of my favorite analyst ever, he's a natural. This man if not already will be a legend. Love this show!!!
This is Brou's worst take on a situation in quite a while. How you think things SHOULD be, has no bearing as to how they ARE
My man literally compared himself to Dame lmao
Journalist is not the same as NBA superstar
How? If the best offer from Miami is Tyler Herro and some pocket lint while Boston offers Jaylen Brown, you would be an idiot at Portland to not take Boston's offer. They gave Dame half a billion dollars already, they don't owe him dooming the team to mediocrity so dame gets to go where he wants to go. Get a haul for him from a competitive team and try again in a couple years. Heat have no draft picks to really offer and the best player you are getting back is Tyler Herro? Unless they decide Bam isn't untouchable, give me a break.
there’s no way people are trying to justify a whole organization to take less because of business “ethics” lol
Brou, the answer to “why not?” Is because your team would like to have a superstar who is willing to play for you again in the next century. If the Blazers completely disrespect Dame’s wishes, no star player will ever sign a contract with them again.
Be real its Portland no one wants to play there anyway no matter how nice they are to him
Nick & Wilds is right. Chris doesn't know what he is saying.
Nick with the fresh shape up
Everybody should be happy for him. I hope he does well
Everybody? Yeah! Let's just give everyone a 1st place trophy too; no one should have favorites in a competition... lmao Just want everybody to win don't ya?
Kyrie wanted out of Boston before he unpacked all his bags and if you believe the rumors, Mitchell already wants out of Cleveland. I honestly don't think those were good examples as to why Dame would be happy with being traded to a place he doesn't want to play for.
That'll be the team he was traded to problem.
Chris face @ 10:05 😂😂😂
It’s crazy they yell “loyalty” “staying with one team” “building in one place”
Then turn around and say the team that asks for all that loyalty owes him nothing but his paycheck 😂
Kawhi didn't want to go to Toronto yet he was traded there, and won a chip.
Right, but Pop and the Spurs felt slighted by the reluctancy shown by Kawhi, so it’s not the same situation. Dame has done everything under the sun to be supportive of Portland’s FO/be proud to wear their colors, so there’s more discussion for them to honor his wishes.
@@FrostiiVibes One guy helped them won a title, the other didn't.
@@onidtubes that’s more on the Trail Blazers front office failing to build a quality roster for Dame than his play. Kawhi was drafted into a solid organization with a HOF coach, and multiple HOF players on the roster. Dame went to an NBA equivalent of a mom and pop store, and believed that the front office would do everything in their power to give him enough weapons to do something with, and they didn’t. His best costars was CJ who got traded a couple years back, and Jusuf Nurkic, who’s biggest spike in fame was getting dunked on by LeBron five years ago.
We are talking about the Dame situation like he was just getting paid to be a good player. He was an icon in a terrible team, making them more maoney that he got paid, he didnt quit on them and stayed loyal, and it's only fair that the org owns some of it back. Brou is talking about this like he was Nurkic.
Nah. You do what’s best for your team. If they don’t want to fail Scoot the way they failed Dame then they need to maximize their return
Exactly!!!
Brou tripping and him not being an athlete shows
bros face at 10;15 lol .. dudes bro what.
Broussard refuses to let anyone make a point without trying to talk over them
Always
Wow, Nick Wright is killing it with his analysis.. He speaks based on history and the how professionals at the high level make decisions.
Cant argue w/that!
no hes not because kevin garnett is superstar didnt want play for boston when request a trade
@@oreed8 and AD the lakers gave up a HUGE haul for him all of the examples nick gave are where the stars wanted to go to , the team also gave the best return
Plenty of players have played for teams they didn't want to go to especially if they're under contract past the upcoming season 😂.
@@oreed8 exactly, KG didn't want to leave Minnesota. He had to be convinced to leave & Boston certainly wasn't his first choice.
As i understood from Windy on first take, it's not possible to trade Dame for JB.
Yea the money doesn’t match I don’t think cus JB hasn’t had that huge extension yet so technically to make it work Boston would have to throw something else in which I’m sure they wouldn’t wanna do. If it was gonna happen they’d prolly wanna do it straight up player for player
I dont think the knicks want him
This is how my wife argues with me. You say one thing and she’s arguing about a whole different thing.
Weber st is close to salt lake city, I think that's where Utah comes in
Shannon sharpe is a great example of what Nick is talking about
Was thinking the same thing.
Nick casually forgetting that when Paul George asked for a trade from the Pacers to the Clippers, he was traded to OKC and even re-signed there. It wasn’t until Russ asked out and Kawhi wanted him to come join him in LA that he was traded again. But sure.
Lying a**! He asked for a trade and was traded to the Thunder with Westbrook and Melo
The argument is that superstar players rarely get traded to a team they *DONT WANT TO GO TO* so if George said “I do NOT want to play in OKC and THEN gets traded to OKC yeah you’ll have a point. You are actually delusional. This isn’t even an argument you guys just act like what’s being said is wrong. Two players out of dozens doesn’t invalidate the point.
@@Unofficial_BobYou sound like you wanna act like Nick 😂
He request a trade at deadlines of at times that is very hard for his team to move him..
Same thinking I had for Stafford traded to Rams. I just was hoping for him to do good outside Detroit XD
If he goes spurs, that will be a fun team to watch
No it won’t dame would just be stuck on a play in team AGAIN
Broussard is delusional. It’s actually insane.
But he talks about ESPN letting him go! The guy is a clown and he’s a Tatum homer he wants him to go to Boston nobody is saying Boston besides him
I was confused what's he arguing about lmao
Consistently.
3:44 is facts Nick is on it
Here is what Chris Broussard is not understanding: Recent NBA history shows that players the caliber of Damian Lillard largely don't get sent to dysfunctional or rebuilding teams. A contending team believes a player like that can be the missing link to a championship, and a few times it has been the case.
Clyde Drexler was the greatest player in Portland history and 30 years ago he demanded a trade to Houston, which was the defending champion. Houston won a second ring with Drexler as the No. 2 man. Kevin Garnett was "loyal" to Minnesota and got traded to Boston, which just paired Ray Allen with Paul Pierce. Boston won a title the next season.
Even some problematic players such as Shaquille O'Neal (Los Angeles Lakers to Miami), Kyrie Irving (Cleveland to Boston), Kawhi Leonard (San Antonio to Toronto) and James Harden (Houston to Brooklyn to Philadelphia) got traded to playoff contenders. Not to mention Shaq and Kawhi won titles during their stopovers.
Damian on the Spurs would be lit. Best 13 seed in NBA history
Portland is trying to rebuild. They're limited in what they can get because they don't want to do Dame dirty. How about the Bucks offer Jrue and Middleton, and maybe a prospect like Beauchamp. They can then trade Jrue and Middleton to get more rebuild pieces than they would be able to get for Dame and can send them anywhere.
Players are all friends and teams want to seem player friendly. Also a team doesn't want to trade for a player who is not excited to be there and will cause issues.
@8:45 Broussard and Nick in Sync drinking coffe and folding hands
They do owe him he’s on his 3rd rebuild and stayed loyal now trade him where he wants to go and get what you can get
How did he stay loyal? By signing biggest contracts he could get, lol. Gimme a freaking break. They should absolutely get the best package they can get, especially how he played them in the last week. Meets with them and four days later he wants out after they gave Jerami Grant a lot of money. That contract looks absolutely ridiculous now.
He also made them millions much more than he got
The Spurs are interesting cause I think they can come up with a package that makes sense for Portland.
I’d take Keldon Johnson for sure just cause he’s a 20pt scorer and could possibly be okay with leading the second unit in Portland. I’ll also take Jakob Poleti, Sochan, and some picks as well.
Poetl was traded last season and just resigned with Portland for 80 million
The Hate that Chris Brousard has for the Heat is borderline hostility.
It's in Portland's interest to listen to Dame and send him to Miami due to the message it sends your young potential superstar who you just drafted. The example that the Lakers set when they gave Kobe a max contract after his achilles, knowing full-well, he's not going to bring a championship at that point, sends a message to superstars around the league that, "we take care of ours." If you're Portland and you don't listen to Dame, it sends a bad message to Scoot Henderson, who now is "MORE LIKELY" to leave first chance he gets.
I respect your take, however, players want their money. There’s no such thing as loyalty I sports between player and team. Loyalty is team and fans. The Lakers have always taken care of their iconic players, Kobe is the Lakers just from what he brought to the organization. Dame didn’t have to sign an extension last year. He wanted his money. Now he’ll have to deal with whatever team Portland agrees to trade him to. Unless I’m getting Bam in the trade, Miami’s package just isn’t strong enough.
@@traceytownsend7256 you speak no lies. But answer me this: if you send Dame to some washed team with no chance of winning, what goes through Scoot's mental process when his rookie contract is up? Should we not be planting the seeds of the future as well? I agree there's no such thing as loyalty between team and player and vice versa, but then as the team, if I'm demonstrating that we're "player-friendly", it is actually in your interest, the player, to stay with us, because the team's past actions spoke to you, "if we fail to set you up, we will do right by you." But I get you too, nothing is promised so sometimes it's just take what you can now.
I'm always surprised when people don't bring up the fact that if u don't send a superstar to where he wants to go how do u think your going to sign any other superstar after they saw how the last superstar was treated. Like oh this last guy did everything you ever wanted him to do and the one thing he asks from u and u deny him that. Like that has to go through another players mind when he's thinking about signing there.
EXACTLY!! The Spurs are still in a free agency drought, because of Kawhi lol
The Cavs and Jazz too, because of Kyrie and Donovan, respectively. The Jazz drought is just starting though
Please provide some examples.
@@michaeljohnson7945 the Spurs
Man if Dame is interested in the Spurs he might actually end up there. Spurs got some young talent and a boatload of picks.
Teams need to be careful! If they don’t respect his wishes, and treat him fairly and respect where he wants to go, players will not like that and in future reference players will no longer be super loyal to teams anymore like he has been.