A Non-Accidental Hit and Run | S15 E11 | Law & Order
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- Episode recap from Season 15, Episode 11 "Fixed": A recently paroled criminal dies after being run down by a car. Detectives believe his former therapist had a hand in the murder when they discover that she had serious misgivings about his release.
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For anybody interested, the therapist that ran him over was found "not guilty"by the jury, she managed to weasle her way out by gaining symphaty from them.
you think she didn't deserve it? did you see the original case back in season 1? that therapist could've told me in detail how she killed him and I'd only be upset I didn't get to do it myself
@@londonm3161 same.
I don't think she 'weaseled' out... she didn't do it out of malice, she did it out of desperation. She'd seen the creep charm his way out of jail once, knew he was starting his old ways of abuse again, and basically concluded that taking him out was the only way to be sure he wouldn't hurt anyone again. In my opinion, she didn't really deserve jail... killing in defense of yourself or others is bad, but not murder.
Most people don’t want sadistic child abusers and murderers out on the streets. Go figure.
@@mangohaeppchen3447 I'm one of them 😏
7:28
“Why would someone wanna hurt me?”
“You’re kidding right?”
So simple and expected yet still funny as hell
I'm floored that they got these actors back. The original episode was horrifying. The acting was superb. Good riddance that Lowenstein dies.
I only wish the mother got the same treatment. When she came to the DA [Ben Stone, at the time] and admitted to what she did to her daughter, DeeDee, and what the @$$hole wanted her to do, 🤮, I remember her weeping and all I could think was, "Oh, don't even bother blubbering about it, lady 🙄. "
I wonder if actors have a "reserve clause" in their contracts for an additional episode.
@@geoffwilliams4478 You seem to overlook the fact that Lowenstein wasn't just abusing his son and daughter he was using his wife as a punching-bag too, she was seriously fucked up mentally speaking.
@@geoffwilliams4478 the husband was still the one behind all the tragedies. He broke his wife mentally and that led to their daughter's death.
@@nicholasmaude6906 yeah, didn't Jacob even use cocaine on Carla as a part of his "therapy"?
"I hope he lingers a long time and in excruciating pain."
Boy, Cragen really hates this guy. Not a surprise, considering what the evil creep did. And Carla... I honestly find I can only pity her, you can just see the heartbreak in her eyes when she talks about that time in her life. Looking back, it must seem like some horrible, vivid nightmare.
Well I do remember from the episode indifference. Where two of his detectives though one of them was killed off in the second season. And the other guy his actor well he was fired for apparently demanding an extra raise. So they decided to have him go seek work at another Police department. After he punched a homophobic politician accused of murdering a gay. So all they had because they didn't have those other actors was cragen. I think we need talks about his nightmare he has the biggest regret of not doing enough sooner. I remember in the past episode he was literally not willing to arrest Jacob lowenstein even going off at his two detectives by saying you got no warrant no alibi etc. Then when it's time to interrogate or get a confession out of him he released him already for screaming false imprisonment. He wasn't too quick to judge but I think he wished he was. However I think the biggest mistake he ever did besides letting him go was forgetting the fact that he had cocaine in his and was apparently using it on a woman he was gettin jiggy while hyped up on cocaine. Literally yelling at the detectives then when he's being interrogated he's literally calling them out for sandbagging and all that. If there's anybody they could have talked about the whole case then again his actor was fired to was Ben Stone although they could have talked to Paul Robinette. Either way still yeah that guy would have had a lot to say about Jacob Lowenstein. He probably would have spoken about Ben Stone literally just tearing him limb from limb. Going on how he uses cocaine dealing it to keep his practice going. Even giving some to most of his patients. I still enjoy watching that scene from indifference where Ben Stone just literally went into him so roughly. He then shouts even in the courtroom he's shouting and being warned he will be removed. It's like yeah this guy's clearly guilty in the jury made the right call.
And it was a horrible vivid nightmare for her..
@AnastasiaIsabella one she partly brought on herself. She abused the kids, hyped up on Coke and allowed herself to be used when she should have seen what she was going to do when she readying to put Ezras hand in what looked like boiling water or oil and allowed him to be handcuffed to a radiator.
@@geoffwilliams4478 she didn’t really have any choice. She was so out of her mind on coke . He encouraged her to abuse the children and she said she didn’t remember what she had done. He wanted her to trained their daughter for later just so they served him 🤮 . I am not trying to justify her behavior or actions but I felt that she should have left and take the kids away from him
@@AnastasiaIsabella I can agree to that, but the truth remains is that she didn't. No sympathy from me, especially when she started sobbing in Stone's office. Made me wanna unleash on her just saying, "Oh, stop blubbering 🙄."
Bringing back the actors from the original episode was a fabulous choice. No doubt this was one of Groh's last performances. From Rhoda's husband to this monster, he showed incredible range.
This episode had me and my granddad FLOORED!! we were thrilled to see the old actors back from the first season!
I think it is a repeat
Both these episodes involving the Lowenstein case were some of L&O's best. I was surprised that they went back to this one though. Considering it was all the way in the first season...
15 years is a long time so it would actually make sense to come back to it bring back some old easter eggs/memoires for the long time watchers
Also to mention the fact that no one ever bothered to bring Cragen in on because of the fact Cragen was in command of the 27 at the time with Greevy and Logan working the case and it was Stone And Robinette prosecuting the case
@@kumalalaistheflash4647 ~ I guess it depends on how you look at it. There were a few cases I would like to see them come back to...
@@sirxanderj.williamsesq.4457 ~ Yeah, that didn't make sense to me, not bringing Cragen back for this. I always liked his character on here...
@deborah78.crystalball The actual monster getting out of prison (I was doing a summer internship in NYC at the time - for about a week, the Post and Daily News all but encouraged violence against him) was a big enough local headline for the show to rip.
The woman playing lowenstein’s fiancé is fantastic. I pity her, but I also want to grab her by the shoulders and shake her for falling for the creep.
Also glad they got Carla and Lowenstein’s original actors back.
Men like him know exactly how to manipulate women, play on their weaknesses.
You would be shocked how many people fall for absolute creeps. She said it herself, she was roughly the same age as his kid when he went to jail. Gross.
Wonder if the kid who played teenage Ezra was the same kid from the original episode.
Women like that fiancée I want to have CPS take her kids and have her sterilized. Jesus.
The way the fiance acts is basically the way Carla or "pookie" acted when she was with her "daddy"
Before becoming an actor Dennis Farina actually served 3 years in the US Army and then later became a police officer for the Chicago PD where he went from patrolman to detective (1967-1985).
This was also the plot of a Quincy, M.E. episode. A guy pretended to be drunk driving when he hit and killed someone with whom he was in a secret dispute. He ran him over, then drank a bottle of whiskey. He figured he'd get off easy, since it was his first offense. The idea was, if you're going to kill someone, do it drunk and in a car.
A kiddie killer gets killed? That's a problem that solved itself.
Yeah. I'm shocked that case didn't get filed "Solve after the next ice age."
I wish they had let Chris Noth make a cameo. Would've been cool to see Det. Logan come back.
They either forgot or retconned things since he WAS found guilty. They didn't plead him out. Also the wife was also abusive. I'm stunned they'd let her anywhere near kids.
Sorry I'm confused where do they say they pleaded him out, they do say they let him out early because of good behaviour which is different because you can still found guilty then released early for good behaviour but I agree about the wife working in nursey doesn't seem right.
@@MikeMJPMUNCH They cut out part of the scene where Cragen is telling them about the case since he was in charge back in the early seasons. Thing was the trial then ended with them being found guilty and sentenced and completely unapologetic about what happened so there was no plea. Again either the writers forgot or they just retconned it.
considering the state carla was in because of him a good lawyer would be able to appeal that down
The court also found that the wife was under the husband's control during the abuse, and under threat of death should she not beat the kids. His way of making sure she didn't say anything. Even given those factors I wouldn't leave her in charge of a dog, let alone small children.
@@quarf53206 She was also abusing the kids horribly so it's hard to sympathize. That was a bleak episode.
Groh played this same skeezy Bad Dude in S1, but also played a skeezy judge in S4. He was so good at it!
The thing that angers me the most about this episode is the new girlfriend of the guy moving him in with her kids being that stupid and naive and it pisses me off so much because there’s really women out there like that.
What I find strange is that Carla is allowed to be around children, typically people like her and the ex are not allowed to be within a mile of children.
therapist may have cleared her
Considering she can form coherent sentences, she’s probably been treated well for whatever debilitating issues Lowenstein inflicted on her
They can’t stop someone from having biological children. Girl in Australia killed a bunch of kids, served her sentence, got out, they still had to let her have her own kid. That’s not a right that gets taken away even for abusers even though it should be.
Lowenstein still never believed he did anything wrong after all those years. What a villain
Because Joel Steinberg, the real-life Lowenstein, thinks the same thing.
When the killer (Lowenstein's Therapist) was found not guilty, even she couldn't believe she got away with it. She look like she was ready to accept her consequences, only to find out she won't pay for it.
Who would want to hurt me?
Umm Pretty much everyone in the comments.
Marcia Jean Kurtz was phenomenal as Carla Lowenstein. I'll always remember that performance.
This is actually a continuation from a earlier episode from way back in the first season.
It is based on the release of Joel Steinberg.
Yep.
The episode is called "Indifference" S1 E9. The late David Groh (Lowenstein) was an amazing character actor, better known for his role as Joe on "Rhoda".
@@YolandaAnneBrown95726yes real good actor kind of sad he passed away in 2008😢😢😢
Wish we still had good ole Lenny. You know he'd have some hot one-liners for this case.
Agreed. He left a little too early.
how dumb can that woman be??? the guy smacked around his wife and beat his 5 year old own daughter to death!
Some women are so desperate for love, they’ll dive at anyone I guess…..Hell, the Golden State Killer had marriage proposals and n*ed’s sent to him!
I recall a TV news story from around a dozen or so years ago about women who marry convicts still serving time. The violent ones got the most mail from women. A prison guard said its easier for a prisoner to find a woman and get married then a guard.
Desperate demented women who think these kind of people can be redeemed or they’re so scared of being alone that they’ll take anyone they can get over their children
@@killerqueen4411 Yeah this women should get the D.P for intentionally bringing a monster around her children.
"Pookey needs daddy". Creepy line from original episode.
"Pooky's scared." "Pooky needs you...pooky needs you."
the lowenstien episodes were two of the best ones of the entire show
I hate that he died I would have loved to see his face when he had to go back to jail for his parol violations
Even though Mario doesn’t come out for 19 years. I’m just going to play a little song from Lumalee.
🎶Life is sad. 🎶
🎶Prison is sad. 🎶
🎶Life in prison is very, very sad. 🎶🤣🤣🤣
In the 70's the TV show "Quincy" did an interesting hit-and-run case [fictional of course] where the driver intentionally ran over and killed someone [third party business associate, no close personal ties] then ran his car into a pole. Before police arrived he downed more than half a bottle of Vodka, then tossed the closed bottle under the seat.
The charge was an alcohol related death, and the penalty was pretty light, as opposed to felony murder. The laws on drunk driving and vehicular manslaughter especially if it's a first offence are still shamefully light today.
He almost got away with it.
Medical Examiner Quincy [Jack Klugman] was unconvinced, and investigated, he discovered that the driver had as a result of the accident a large hemotoma under his knee cap, that had to be drained.
He was able to do a blood alcohol analysis on a sample of the blood the hospital retained [reason unclear] and he showed in court that at the time of the accident the driver had NO alcohol in his system.
Que felony murder charge.
The "Hit and Run murder scenario has had some interesting twists in TV plots.
It took me a second before I realized who this was and I was floored seeing they did indeed bring back David Groh to reprise the role of this heinous character (I'm more surprised he did come back knowing how awful that person was).
2:59 Donald having flashings of that horrible case
Flashbacks of his own actions that he let this guy go… His two detectives found this guy out who it was the moment they walked into his session which he was using to screw that girl… There was even some cocaine found inside… What I found even more irritating was the fact that they caught him, brought him down to the station to talk to him about his own daughter… He’s making such a loud complaints about being sandbag by law enforcement… Then as there literally trying to figure out what to do and how to break through to this guy Cragen, he literally goes on saying things like it’s indisputable you got no warrant no evidence no alibi… And I’m thinking dude they just found him on cocaine… Here’s where the story gets even more interesting. He decides to release him after Lowenstein keeps shouting, false imprisonment… While he sent Home his wife gets home beaten up some more and windows detectives thank God they were actually there talking to that other witness because if they were not yeah, chances are she probably would’ve been maybe dead along with her son too… No wonder that comes back to haunt him because this was a critical error he made… He wasn’t there when he made the arrest those two detectives were and sadly well one of them was killed off and the other one well his actor was fired from the show.
Didn't the wife try to shove the kid's hand into a boiling pot of water?
That, she did.
She was hopped on cocaine her darling husband fed her.
I've only been seeing the episode through CZcams, but it looks like she actually did. I can only imagine the kids pain and thinking to myself, "WTF is that charity doing letting a woman with a history of child abuse, cocaine or not, near kids again?"
I actually just rewatched the episode on Amazon, not too long ago. Turns out the cops actually busted the door down in time and stopped her from doing it.
Thank God 🙏, but still leaving the kid handcuffed to a radiator like dog is inhuman.
Man the editing here is giving me whiplash.
I was just thinking,” why isn’t the body there” but if he’s alive then for sure take him to get healed
I wouldn’t trust him with my kids..
For anyone wondering, Logan and Greevy arrested Lowenstein in an episode that saw Ben Stone beautifully prosecute Mr Lowenstein and back him into a corner with his testimony.
He had trained Carla and the kids to “service” him when the he required it.
Watched Law and Order since I was a kid because it was my mom favorite show. I remember the original episode. The little girl died at school after the father beat her and the mom.
5:40 … I cannot even come up with the words to describe this woman. On one hand, she definitely has some problems. On the other, I wanna grab her by the shoulders and shake her for letting that guy near her kids
at 3:38 the man in the black suit and red tie is the same actor who played as the mayor in ghostbusters 2
He also played the doctor that was using his own sperm to inseminate multiple women at his fertility clinic in an older episode.
That’s like my pillowcase at 8:41. Nice. 😌
I guess someone was doing the world a favor
I remember seeing the original episode of the lowensteins first appearance. Carla looks and sounds so much better now!
God i forget how good crime shows can be
Great acting all around
Originally Carla was convicted of manslaughter and did 7-10 because she was the one who beat the little girl to death.
Lowenstein got 25 to life for depraved indifference because he beat his wife and gave her cocaine and told her to beat the girl but he didn’t kill her himself. Odd that they make it seem like Carla was completely the victim here and that he got a minimum 25 year sentence and got out in 15.
They hit and killed Clint Eastwood, nooooooooooooooooo!
I didn't realize this episode was a follow up to the one where deedee died! I thought the woman looked familiar!
Welp, I'm sure nobody was crying at that guy's funeral if they knew what he did.
Fixed
Cragen bad dream haunted him.
Apparently, the reality was he regretted not doing enough. You watch the episode indifference. He literally was kind of like let’s be cautious at the same time he kind of was like telling his two detectives who were actually the ones going after this guy. That you got no warrants, no alibi, even telling them that this is crazy. Especially considering the fact that his own detectives found cocaine in his office and he was using it on a girl he was getting all giggity for. Unfaithful husband I call him along with a crazy coked up creep woman beating child molesting monster. His biggest regret when he talks about how they found Carla with her mouth so swollen, she could barely talk. That was on him he let him go, because Lowenstein, even especially high on cocaine, literally kept shouting, false imprisonment, so he released him. His two detectives were just shocked by that mistake he made. Then when they find out, Carla is back in the household with her son, those guys immediately rushed in and found her the way that Donald Cragen described. Lowenstein even tried to take a swing at Carla one more time before being stopped by one of the detectives. So yeah, of course it’s haunting for him because he has to live with the fact that he didn’t do enough to stop the abuse from continuing and by releasing him he just made it even worse.
@@monkeycat48 even for carla when talk by Lt. Van Buren
IIRC Lowenstein was sentenced to 20 years not 15 unless he'd behaved himself in prison enough to get an early parole.
Twenty-five years to life. Yet I was pretty surprised that he got fifteen years for good behavior. I think the reason they did that was because they knew this guy the actor playing in was going to die someday. So they decided to make an episode where they bring him back and then kill him off
@@monkeycat48 I checked David Groh's wiki page and he died four years after he appeared in the episode, from his wiki page:
"Groh died of kidney cancer at Cedars-Sinai Medical Center in Los Angeles, on February 12, 2008, at the age of 68.[2]"
I suspect he knew he was terminal when he reappeared on L&O.
@@monkeycat48 Edit: I was looking up the Lisa Steinberg (Real life victim) case and it tuns out her coke-addled father, Joel Steinberg, was given an early parole in 2004 under NY state's "Good Time" law (He'd been a model prisoner while in the joint) after serving tw0-thirds of the max sentence.
0:27 they didn’t have to call 911, there was a box alarm behind them that can notify fire and police so they can pull the blue switch and PD will be rollin quicker than with a 911 call.
...Isn't that just called vehicular homicide?
Had he not died he would've been heading back to jail for violating his parole by living with those kids. Plus, if it had been me I would've called Child Protective Services on that stupid fiance. Talk about child endangerment.
Is that Tony Soprano’s lawyer?
Anyone know the outcome I didn’t see the original episode
His therapist did it, she was acquitted.
Despite seemingly everything going right for the prosecution at trial, she's acquitted so quickly, you get the sense that the jury deliberations consisted of the foreman asking "OK, no one was actually going to convict her, right?...(no one raises their hand)...Yeah, didn't think so".
@@Npyne Thanks
@@TPTGopher Thank you
Denis Farina. Qualité.
Did He ever had a full head of black hair?
He was the equivalent of Morgan Freeman.
Mellifluous voice, a brilliant actor. Knows his marks and would always be there for the unions.
When Guy Ritchie got him for Snatch. We were hyped AF. He was a true gentleman.
I always love Denis in whatever he did.
This woman who is his fiance is in this episode is totally insane. She is demented, crazy and desperate with no taste in men. Marrying a child killer, doesn't know anything about his past, says he is a wonderful man and great father to her two kids. Had those two detectives told her who he was and what he did had they shown her photos or something of his horrible crime, she wouldn't have done anything.
6:00 Girl, you did all this for a man in jail. Huh? Lowenstein found a sucker.
It serves that Jacob Lowenstein right for murder didi by helping Carla to beat didi to death sentence
The woman - is she the one from episode with child and wife beater? The wife was saying something about his passionate nature
This the same mom who played the abuser of her daughter she was "training" for her husband in svu and he had her looking crazy
Not cool man
Wouldn’t you just call it a hit and run and not that whole non-accidental hit and run. I mean hit and run clearly implies intentional harm.
This show used that tired tactic on not only this episode, but also on other episodes. An episode where Lennie says, “as much as I enjoy seeing your face, carjackings aren’t my department...” Or something like that.Or other non-vehicular cases like when Logan was first dismissive of a hospital call of a man who had a kidney “operation”, followed by some dumb “pickpocket” line. Same as when a woman was bleeding until a doctor asked, “where’s the baby?”
waaaaaaaaait is that Craigen? (I know it's not the actors name but the character) Was he in the OG L&O?
The earliest seasons, until he transferred to Keeping Up With Oliv...I mean, Special Victims Unit.
i remember the episode wherein this character was convicted.
Nah the mother was teh abusive one towards the kids, not the father. But now the fatehr was teh abusive one?
She was abusive, because she was abused too. She was misguided to believe that her quote-on-quote "lovely husband" would want her to do that. His abuse "helped" her by destroying herself.
15 Years Later, he decided to change, be a better person, and make up for his wrong doings. Like his ex-wife and son, he moved on. The person "doing the favor" by striking him with the car didn't move on. They have held on to the pain of 15 years earlier more than they should.
@davidbailey6917 The person who hit him with her car found that he was planning to violate his parole, which he ended up doing. And, his behavior was very disturbing in the video. You can see that she was scared for the kids, and even McCoy agreed something should have been done with the exception of murder.
@@geoffwilliams4478 OH. I am sorry. I haven't watched the whole episode.
@@davidbailey6917 if you got the stomach for it, I recommend it.
Early cross over
I wish I could meet the NYPD mounted police and their horses and show the NYPD mounted police the law and order videos
7:50 the self-pitying whining is so typical of this guy, it was all about himself.
So who did it?
The victim’s psychiatrist did. She was concerned he’d been back to his old ways after being let out. So she hit him with her car after he dropped the kid off at school.
chicks dig men behind bars
Dream on. A small percentage of "chicks" might want that bad boy cred but most women want something better than an ex-con.
I’ve heard that personally I don’t get the attraction
I swear there is a show called Love During Lock Up or Love After Lock Up. Dude not wrong here.
The kind of people that enjoy those behind bars, look like they belong behind them too. So do with that what you will
Some of them do.
YEP BLAME THE VICTIM AGAIN NO WONDER NO ONE COMES FORWARD
The original Lowenstein episode clip czcams.com/video/Ym8WYxuKHoQ/video.htmlsi=2ikHNGYIUE1U3GMF
Too bad diversity/affirmative action got Captain Cragen's character bumped off the show. He is a much better captain than Van Buren in my opinion.
Actually, Cragen reached the NYPD mandatory retirement age and that’s why he is gone. Same thing happened to Munch on SVU.
Wtf? This show is old. Stop shoving your woke fear politics into a period where that didn’t exist. Paranoid. It’s like you went right next to crazy liberals by going to far in the other direction.
@@bigdaddycool6930 Really? Then explain how Cragen shows up in charge of the SVU unit for several years after he got bumped out of the original series.
@@Khalifrio That was the reason Dann Florek gave for Cragen not being on the show anymore. Same with Munch… no need to be so hostile friend it’s just a TV show
@@bigdaddycool6930 Not being hostile at all. Not even sure how you can tell my attitude via a text message. I was asking a legitimate question.