(22) How to pick the new Medeco M4 First Public Pick and Gut With Full Analysis
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- čas přidán 25. 03. 2021
- Ratyoke pick (Peterson #7 profile .018)
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For a fantastic tutorial on how to pick Medeco key pins please visit Drauken's Lockfall Laboratories video: • How to Pick Any Medeco...
This video was originally published on 3/17/21 as a picking only video with no voiceover, The first public pick and gut video of the new Medeco M4.
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Important message! Please read :)
I wanted to start off by thanking everyone in the Lockport community for their overwhelming support.
If you have been following my videos you can see that they are somewhat different than most lock picking videos. This is because although I began this hobby as a lock picker I eventually understood that my passion was not in actually picking the one lock in front of me. It was to understand how that lock worked, all the possible combinations, and the different ways it could behave and maybe even why it behaved in that manner.
I use a rear view camera in the lock so that the viewer can see how the elements in the lock needs to be specifically manipulated as part of my overall presentation. While I do use the camera when I am initially studying the lock, I do not use it when making my final picking video aside from the occasionally glance to make sure that it is in focus. Part of my analysis of locks are the ever so subtle feedback that they provide, both auditory and tactile. Using a camera while good for analysis does blunt ones ability to focus on the non-visual feedback. It also requires picking in a reverse orientation which make things more challenging for me.
There are certain groups that rank themselves on their ability to pick locks based on their difficulty and assign themselves points and levels based on the locks they have picked. Understandably there are rules to what is considered a valid pick. These rules do vary by organization. For example in some European competitions tensioning a lock by using the cam is permitted. It is true that using a camera from the back to actively pick the lock or using lighting may in some instances significantly reduce the difficulty of picking a given lock.
It all boils down to what one is trying to achieve with the hobby. Picking locks in your home with good lighting in a comfortable chair with no adverse weather conditions is a highly controlled environment. I am not a spy, a burglar, a locksmith or competitive lock picker so I recognize that my goals for picking locks may be very different than yours. I am in no way trying to mimic real life situations as I have no interest in picking real world locks.
If you choose to believe that I am using a camera to actively pick the lock then I am okay with that, the goal of my videos are on the analysis of the lock rather than the picking. There are many ways to manipulate footage of picking videos. In the end you are only cheating yourself if you do this.
Having said all of this, it is my understanding that there has been some concern about my latest video. I did pan the video out when I was finished picking to show that the monitor was facing the other direction. While no one believes that I have used the camera during the pick, there is some concern that since this is a first pick video there should be no doubt about the cameras use. After some reflection I agree that because of the nature of this video as being a first pick video that It should be reshot.
Here is a link to that video: czcams.com/video/2WJQ6CRVVRA/video.html
I am interested in learning more about lock picking - and your videos are very informative. I have zero interest in someone showing off how quickly they can pick XYZ. So thumbs up. for this.
Summed up beautifully A2K 😀
Another great video! A picture might be worth a thousand words but this video is worth millions. Watching how the pick interacting inside the lock gives us valuable insight on how we can improve our picking skills. THANK YOU!!!
I have subscribed and will watch as long as I feel you’re legit.
I have been a locksmith for ~35yrs and acknowledge there is quite a difference between Lock Sport and commercial picking BUT your talent is impressive.
Good pick !!!
Great video, thank you for taking the time to get into details! Very informative and fun to watch
That vid was stellar I just subscribed bc dang that lock is insanely hard to pick
Explains everything in a minute or so. That deserves a thumbs up for me
Seriously helps my skill set to know how these locks work and a video of what is going on inside I love this approach no other CZcams channel doing this. Fantastic job my friend thank you
The full description + the inside the lock view is incredible. Such a great video!
Fantastic video love the inside camera view
Extraordinary good content - as always. Really enjoyed to watch it !
What brilliant and informative videos. I love them. Keep up the fantastic work, and thanks for sharing👍😁
That was excellent, some great information and very informative.
Thanks for taking the time to produce this video.
👍👍👍👍👍🇬🇧
Awesome video, I am no locksmith but can appreciate the skill used to pick this lock. Other youtubers say the Medeco M4 is virtually unpickable. Saves paying a king's ransom for Medeco and makes me feel better using affordable locks, Lockwood, Brava etc.
Clear and thorough explanation. Thanks for sharing and take care.
Very informative video. Thank you! 👏 Nice pinning tray too. 😊
Great video and explanation of this lock. Thank you for sharing your videos.
Great tutorial and very informative. Thank you for taking the time to do this video, it really helps to understand the ins and outs of a lock and you present this beautifully, cheers
Awesome, thanks for making videos that help lock pickers understand how these complex locks work 👍
Your videos are fantastic, a real lecture each time. Everything is clear. Please, keep going.
my first time seeing one of Ratyoke's picks in action, amazing pick! I'm in love with your videos, as someone that's into locks just as much as I'm into picking these are so good to watch
Very impressive video and informative
I do have medeco M3,but not the M4 as is not available yet to purchase
Looking forward to get one of this cylinder lock and fallow your information here thank you very much.
Great Video! 👍 Thanks a lot. Very interesting but also as much complicated.
WOW this is amazing stuff! I'm not a "lock picker" of any sorts. My question is at what level do you rate the M4 compared to other locks?
I simply want to install the best locks I can and I don't know much about them. Thank you greatly for any advice!!
Great content. Thanks for it!
What a fantastic presentation and pick in this video Arti👌
I know at least one really good picker than pins progressively and there isn't much difference between that and using a camera to learn in my book. I don't see a problem. Obviously, for a pure picking test it's, in the end, only interesting to pick a lock not touched before at all, out of package pick style.
Great work and the total quality of your video is very high. Thanks for sharing this 👍
Just watched this vid,well done and congratulations, thanks,billbo
Just got my hands on the M4, thank you so much for the video!
Great! let me know how you fair with yours :)
Great video, very nice explanation and demonstration.
There will always be haters no matter what.
Thank you for your videos !
Top notch vid. 👍
Outstanding!!!!
Great class.
Subscribed. Greetings from Norway
I have been a locksmith for ~35yrs. I enjoyed your video and will subscribe for as long as I deem them legitimate.
Imho this pick was legit.
Very well-made video, it's a great standalone resource for all things M4, on top of getting an excellent open. What camera are you using for the inner-keyway angle?
Color me impressed. Subbed.
This is amazing. Thanks for walkthrough! I love the rear camera too. What is that camera setup?
Nice job bro. Well done. And thanks for the info on the m4... now just to get my hands on one. 😂
Great picking and awesome lock analysis! The reverse view to the keyhole was really nice, too. Could you share details about the camera you used there?
I have to wonder, why did you sensor the side of the key in this video? It's not like the keycut is secret when you show all the pins.
I have only watched the lockpickinglawyer I will be watching many of your videos now
Awesome! Enjoy the videos sir
Your videos are amazing! Can you make one on the medeco keymark x4???
If ASSA modified this lock to *always* have mixed binding order between different parts, do you think it would make picking harder even the the binding order were totally static as a result? (They could do this by e.g. intentionally using thinner pins in every even chamber.)
Maybe the M5 will have the assa pins from a twin 6000 on the left and have the normal medeco sidebar to the right 👀
What about Hercular multi lock
You have a cut-away medeco? Wow
Howwwww did you get one?!
I guess its easier when you know what the inside looks like pin for pin...
how did u rotate the key pins? i couldn't understand from the video
For a fantastic tutorial on how to pick Medeco key pins please visit Drauken's Lockfall Laboratories video: czcams.com/video/Vrh3ZVlde3M/video.html
@@ArtichokeTwoThousand thx
medeco lock
The 2 dislikes are from Assa Abloy engineers
I apologize for my ire, i do agree there is a difference between hobby and vocation. My only fear is that customers watching this video find that no lock is safe: That is untrue. if you can really do that, maybe you should be a locksmith. Cheers, my apologies.
Sorry but I have to correct you. "Every model" does NOT have 6 sidebar projections. Medeco has 5 pin cylinders and keys. Their sidebar only has 5.
You are correct! I often have a skewed perspective of locks. I specifically analyze the "full" model. Thank you for your correction.
The bottom pins are almost 2 dollars a price...
Also this video is dated 8 months ago we could got an M4 sample from our rep last week :/
Ok so it's nice to pin your cylinder knowing the cuts. When a customer loses the key and the lock was not bought from your business, what do you do then? You don't have the advantage of a camera showing you the back of the plug. Congrats on picking in a vice. I would love for you to pick that in the REAL WORLD. A locked deadbolt, with a frantic lady, a baby inside. Sometimes picking is just a game to film a video on CZcams.
I'm relatively certain that you did not actually pick the lock. The core should actually rotate a lot more than that if you've successfully picked the lock. It looked like to me you weren't able to rotate the core any further.
Thank you for your comment. There is a cam (you can see me removing it @18:25 ) on the back of the lock that when mounted in a vise will limit rotation in a plug. Remember this is not mounted on a door. Once this medeco opens to that degree it can be rotated 360 degrees by design therefore it doesn't have to be shown. No major locksporter will contest that this is a real open, the only gripe was about the camera in the back hence a second video (listed in my comment above) which you viewed and commented on as well.
Technically speaking, That pick you did, is NOT an actual successful pick. A true lock picking is done while the lockset is on the door, with no chance of looking inside the locking mechanism while picking the lock. Make another video with the camera facing you and the lockset, to show you picking the lock without looking inside the lock. I can bet, that video will not come to fruition. Good try though. So, no. That is not really considered a first pick ever. Better try again. You don't have me fooled. And yes, the M4 is by far, the best, so far.
Thank you for your comment. Please see my pinned comment for further details. Here is a video without the camera czcams.com/video/2WJQ6CRVVRA/video.html . While I appreciate a health bit of skepticism you must realize that I am in the top tier of lock pickers in the world. I can open most any Medeco that you will put in front of me. No lock is pickproof. I can pick the m4, you can call Medeco and they will tell you the same. If you want to fly me first class to your location and put down some money to see it first hand I will oblige but my services are not cheap. Be well sir.
while the m4 is a very nice lock, its not the best by a long shot.
he isn't using the lock cam to help him pick the lock, its to show the locksport community how the lock works, and how it was picked in great depth. but he isn't relying on it, if u follow his channel you would understand. he's not joking when he said he is among the best in the world
@@foe_twennielocksports2800 You could be right on that point. I did not see it in the way you explained it. Good point. My bad I guess.
Technically speaking, Muhammad Ali and Mike Tyson didn't actually knock anyone out in a fight. We all know that what's done in the ring can't possibly be done in the street. The conditions in the ring are controlled to make it possible for a fighter to get knocked out. There is no way they could replicate those skills in a real fight. *sigh*