Film Theory Finale: Don’t Trust Your Heroes
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Today, loyal Theorists, in MatPat’s final Film Theory, we’re looking at a very important topic: boy role models. Here’s a test. Think of five AMAZING characters in kids entertainment who kids could actually look up to in a positive way. We’ll wait… Betcha could hardly come up with one. And that, Theorists, is why we’re here to discuss this issue today.
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Writers: Matthew Patrick, Forrest Lee, and Bob Chipman
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When Matpat spent a decade ruining our childhoods, so for his final act he pushes to make future childhoods better. It truly wraps a bow on everything and brings a tear to my eye.
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It's the perfect finale. What more could we ask for😊
The fact that the Goose from Kung Fu Panda is genuinely one of the best dads in this era of media is very funny
His name is Mr. Ping, thank you very much
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I never thought about it until now, but Mr Incredible. Yes most of the movie shows him as distracted and focuses on his mid life crisis etc. But in the montage, it shows that as soon as his life picks up and he gets better, his immediate priority is also to reconnect with his family, sure it shows the training, but the movie actively goes out of it's way to show us that he's not normally like how he has been
I like your point! Even with the montage, he's technically still lying to his family, but it's definitely a start, and the rest of the movie is him continuing to grow. I mean, how poignant is that part where he tries telling his family to stay in the van because he's not strong enough to lose them again, and how he accepts her gentle correction that if they work together he won't have to worry about that.
@logantimothy5202 It's so good, rewatched it the other night after I made the comment, its insane that that used to be the quality of children's movies compared to the dogshit that gets pumped out on a conveyor belt now 😂
On the opening but about father figures, an important detail about Iroh’s character is trying to be the father to Zuko that he wasn’t to his own kid, hoping that if he gave Zuko this advice and positive role model that he wouldn’t die looking for approval. He’s come to terms with his own failings, and wants to make sure Ozai’s don’t spell Zuko’s downfall
Since we never see Lu Ten (or, for that matter, Iroh before Lu Ten's death), who knows what sort of father Iroh was to Lu Ten?
@@andrewpatton5114I’m mostly extrapolating from how Iroh acts in his Tales from his Tales episode, and the representation from everyone he helped that episode wildly being interpreted as how he wishes he helped his own son based on the line “if only I could help you”
What about Mr Ping from the Kung Fu Panda franchise? He's the hard-working owner of a noodle stand who loves his son and gives great advice and guidance.
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Phineas and Ferb might have been disobeying their parents, but Lawrence Fletcher was a solid father figure.
he was the first that came to mind here!!
I don't actually know if you could say Phineas and Ferb were actually disobeying their parents anyway?? Yes they did built a rollercoaster which their parents probably wouldn't approve of if they knew, but they were never ever told "Don't build a rollercoaster". It is not directly disobeying if no order was ever made. They probably did not even think their parents would disapprove - in fact in some episodes Candace is like "I'll show mom what you did!" and they're like "Perfect! I'd love for her to see this!" before the invention is made to disappear by the typical Doofenshmirtz plot which they didn't even intend for.
Their parents never told not to
@@friendbreakfastExactly, they weren't glad to not be caught, they kinda just... tried to sum up the events. They weren't very dissapointed the parents missed it, but they wanted them to see it nonetheless.
@@JustCallMeEmily Wasn't that entire episode a dream tho? Or is it the one with time travel?
I just want to thank Matpat for being there whenever i was being moody and ran to my room to watch youtube. Some of the best content the internet didn't deserve to get. Truly a legend, thanks
I love how he used the old intros for his final episodes
ok but buggs bunny just pulling a gun on his audience is objectively unexpected and funny!
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This caught me so off guard cause I’ve seen that episode and completely forgot that happened 😂
Me realizing my horror drag is basically bugs Bunny but add Gore
Doofenshmirtz, Bandit, Iroh, Goofy, and some nerd from Game Theory
Ofc it’s the same guy
Yeah, those are all great ones :)
That one dude from the theory channel, that guys cool
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Bro doofenshmirtz is such a based answer
I know this will get lost in the noise but this channel is one of the reasons I fell in love with Engineering, and why I’m now studying it. Thanks MatPat, and great final theory :)
Static shock has an amazing male lead with good morals and respect towards others.
Every time he makes a mistake, he acknowledges it and actually does a good job of apologising and better himself.
The father was also a good father.
The show itself teaches good values, including real-life problems and empathy.
Tho I'd only show this show to a child when they are between 12 and 14.
Depending on how good they can take in such strong real-life issues.
The show doesn't water down real-life problems for kids and so shows them directly how serious and bad life can be.
I wanted to recommend the same show, as well as to someone try 2000-2015 PBS cartoons, they seem to fit in to what I want to teach the next generation at a decent pace with shows like Arthur, Mr. Rogers Neighborhood, Curious George with good primary and secondary character male role models as well as educational content that teaches you and makes you think for yourself like cyber chase, dinosaur train, sid the science kid, and clifford, etc... but you have to watch them off air mostly nowadays apart from rare reruns and I find it sad, but what content that's there still holds a candle to what I expected from those shows watching them back then.
Goodbye, MatPat
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"Thats just a theory, a FILM THEORY. and cut..."
That hit very hard 😭
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Overall, I agree with the topic of this video and it is a sad reality, but we can't pretend that Luke Skywalker from Star Wars is just a "violent male." His solution to the end of the conflict was actually a refusal to fight the sith Lord or his father.
Same with Aang from Avatar. Aang never wanted to fight the Fire Lord. He also spent some episodes resolving conflicts using means other than fighting.
Still, I respect that Film Theory is covering this subject.
I agree. I appreciate that he’s breaching this topic but saying Captain America/Luke/Spider-man can’t be a good role model because violence is involved is ridiculous unless you’re talking only kids under about age 10.
Violence is a real thing in the world (and way more prevalent in other parts of the world) and if good capable people sit and do nothing good incapable people will be hurt and taken advantage of. With great power comes great responsibility is a very important thing to learn.
Also how about military dads? I know plenty of people who have great role model dads who were in the military. Are they not good role models because they had to use violence?
@@braynjohnson4302 100% i also agree. i feel like a lot of times, MatPat just doesn’t think despite his tendency to overthink. he glosses over some important context and comes to questionable conclusions because of it.
@@braynjohnson4302I’m pretty sure he is literally thinking about kids under the age of 10. I think a lot of the problem is that many of these stories have violence implicit in the story and he wants non-violent stories until his child gets older - and I think he means more along the lines of 11 or 12 for older.
@@crashb800very true I wasnt allowed to watch star wars and movies like that until I was about 12-13 and while I was frustrated at my parents for that decision (I had siblings who were 3-5+ yrs older than me and I felt left out due to not being able to watch these shows and movies) ive come to appreciate their thoughtfulness over it
@@beanszzs The point of the video is about tv shows and characters about home life lessons and values.
He's not devaluing your favorite superheroes as violent, he's just saying that they don't hold value to parenting and developmental learning.
You are NOT going show a kindergartener 2012 Avengers and say, "there's a valuable lesson to be learned here!"
As a father of a son myself, I really appreciate you sharing this. The general state of the attention and support we are giving to boys is something that is often on my mind, and this covers many of my thoughts and concerns perfectly. Thank you.
And as a father of both a son and a daughter it was especially great to see the results of the Lego study you shared. I've seen that in my own kids, but it was nice to see the study better explain what I've seen.
And most importantly, thank you for providing your own short list of good father figures. I agree with the whole list, but Bandit and Mufasa were the only two I thought of myself. (I especially love Bandit as because _I_ get to learn from him as I watch with my kids.) It is _scary_ just how hard it is to find good, strong male role models for our sons as well as our daughters.
Thank you. (Even if I don't wholly agree with _everything_ you said in the video, they are just details, and the overall theme I agree with. Boys need better role models too!)
that “annnnd, cut.” hit harder than expected
Take a Bow and your flowers, MatPat, you will be missed
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That’s what I thought too
Doofenshmirtz, Uncle Ben, the dad bear from the Berenstain bears, Mr. Ping, and the dad from Princess and the Frog
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Bro bots are annoying asf I had the a similar list but mine included benson from regular show because he was like my dad
Finally! Someone who says about Doof!
This video made me realise that a lot of kids' media don't really have a lot of parents/adult figures in the shows/ the kids' lives. I even turn to books, and sure enough, they mainly portray the kids trying to solve the problems themselves and not relying on the adults around them.
Its wild how emotional i get contemplating your exit. I have memories of watching you in early HS and today im a crusty late 20s adult lol. All the love and respect to you and your team for 15 years of phenomenal accomplishments 👏🖤
I feel like Hiccup from How To Train Your Dragon movies is a solid role model in my opinion. He's smart, caring, a good teacher to his tribe, tries to talk things through with him enemy's and create peace and literally does what he can to save all Dragons as possible. He also accepts the fact that he lost his leg and finds ways to embrace and live with his disability by finding ways to work with it.
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Exactly, that’s what I was thinking too!
oh yeah for sure!
I feel like Hiccup is probably the role model for boy role models.
I'll tell you this much, I grew up watching every "violent" cartoon you can imagine. The only thing that truly matters in a child's upbringing is the parent's involvement. I was able to distinguish between right and wrong because my father told me so. I obviously can't give my life story, but kids don't grow up to be what they watch on TV, it's what they watch their families do in front of them.
Yeah, I watched MCU and Star Wars since I was at most 8 or 9, and superhero cartoons since before that. But I don’t resolve conflict with violence, because my parents taught me not to. My brother doesn’t either (well, except ONE time, but it was necessary then). Media is important for teaching kids about the world, and about morals, but the parents pretty much always override whatever Spidey says.
Facts
This is just the same as saying "video games normalized/glorifies violence"
@@sort6726 Which is why it's ironic Matpat released this episode, because he did an episode exactly about that topic and how it's not true.
My goodness, the fact that he mentioned three of my favorite shows. It's amazing. I will miss u Matpat my old friend.
I am sorry, but Phineas Flinn and Ferb Fletcher are perfect role models. They are all the things you said role models should be, funny, kind, and so many other amazing traits. And in one episode their mom finds out and doesn’t care. This is not a dream, like Candace’s dream where her parents find out and send the boys to boarding school. Their dad even knows and is fine with it. Please show Ollie Phineas and Ferb. I was raised on it and it is my favorite kids show of all time.
Let's also get a standing ovation for Uncle Iroh, git was a G. Him singing leaves on the vine to his dead son made me cry during a show or movie for the first time, and I already watched Coco.
Leaves from the vine falling so slow like fragile tiny shells drifting in the foam little soldier boy come marching home brave soldier boy comes marching home
😢 watched the series 4 times I cried every time❤
Goodbye, Matpat. You made us all happy for 13 years.
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Best tv dad of that era was Heinz Doofenschmurts.
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You gave me the biggest nostalgia wave in one episode... I am proud
Wow! This was a big one to end on. Very well done MatPat and Company. Looking forward to next week's Theory.
Name 5 GOOD father figures in children's media. Go!
Homer, Daddy Pig, You, You, You, You, You, You, You. Did I forget to mention you? Oh and the dude from game theory
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"Thats just a theory, a FILM THEORY. and cut..."
That hit very hard
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I always loved it when he said that it just made my day😌
I love that Timmy Turner is visually represented as "cruel" and "destructive" in Mat Pats narration.
He has literally turned worlds upside down on his command.
Oh come on a kid can handle a little fantasy fighting Ang is like the greatest young boy role model ever
I'm not much of a gamer, so I discovered matpat through his film theories. The fact that film theory is his least popular content is so shocking to me and shows how successful he really is! I'm going to miss the film theories. Hopefully he'll pop back in from time to time
There’s absolutely no way it’s the least popular. Nobody cares about food and style theory. And more people watch movies than play games.
@@Kevmaster2000if that's true then I'm Nobody, cuz food theory is the best theorists channel
Same
Me too, actually
I'm surprised too. I figured Game theory would be first, but I thought film theory would obviously come in second.
I will die on the Phineas and Ferb hill. They are NOT disobeying their parents. Dr. Doof whisks away the evidence of what they were actually doing, so their parents think they did the normal kid version of things instead of the over the top creations. The backyard beach, for example. They tell their mom they made a beach in the backyard, but by the time she gets home there's only a sandbox left. In the episode where they actually do get busted for making a flying car, the boys are confused why their mom is upset bc they had permission to make it. It's all a big misunderstanding throughout the whole show. They are not disobeying!!!
Thank you for this
Also, there are times when the dad knows, like when they turn the car into a monster trunk. The dad even rides in it
Doofenshmirtz is also such a good dad to Vanessa!!! I agree 100%
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Yeah they were just incredibly smart, no, genius kids, who made incredible inventions.
Who could be upset at that. I'd be bragging about my children if they things like that.
I was finally watching the FNaF movie to celebrate MatPat's retirement. LITERALLY SCREAMED at the cameo. So proud of my boy 😊 been here since the early days. Won't ever stop enjoying your videos man.
But that's just a theory ❤
What I need is an male protagonist going through an emotional arc discovering himself and how to be a better person-
Oh wait I watch anime so that’s like a dime a dozen
Knowing that this will be the last time I hear his voice on this channel. That final “Aaaaand Cut!” really hit hard. Goodbye MatPat.
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he'll be back for an episode or two in the future..
@@brit_b9980i hope so 😢
You matpat. You were the best father figure in media when I was a kid. Thank you, thank you for everything.
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This is super sweet man
That was an absolutely brilliant episode. Probably one of the best, most interesting Film Theory episodes you have ever made. Fantastic, thought-provoking stuff!
"HEY THIS IS JUST A THEORY A FILM THEORY" theae words will forever be in my head
Zane’s father truly cared for his safety and life experiences just like how garmadon wanted Lloyd to have the best life he could
Omg yesss, ninjago hits hard that's such a good one
Ninjago did a good job but still fell under what he still talked about which was making violence the answer to their problems. but yes i do think pre-sons of garmadon is the best way for shows to help show and settup good for kids
Even when Garmadon was literially poisoned to be evil, his love and care for his son ended up winning.
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@@domimextra that’s the only bad part about this, too much violence can overshadow the character and their actions as a good person causing them to just be seen as “good guy and bad guy use violence to solve problems”
Dr. Doof should have a great dad title. He was honestly never a bad guy, just a guy with lots of childhood trauma who wanted to be appreciated, both by Vanessa and the tri-state area. Thankfully, Perry showed appreciation for him, then Norm, then Vanessa, and (if you’ve seen Milo Murphy’s Law) virtually the entire universe became appreciative of him. He became someone important, something better than the leader of the tri-state area.
This guy Uses Princess boublegum as a possitive example
Literally what i was gonna say
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@@osmosisjones4912 yeah, I get what MatPat was going for, but I know for a fact she's committed like 3 genocides, not to mention the way she runs her kingdom
Which brings up a good question and one Mat didn't really cover. Those male characters are dumb or aggressive or mean because they are expressing themselves. Sometimes people. Especially children don't know how to express themselves. You dont get a male like Uncle Iroh from the last Airbender until you have gone through suffering. Until you let out all your emotions from your trauma. And some of these characters are doing just that. They are expressing their emotions in order to understand what they want to be. So to say there are no good male roll models in media because they are these things actually belittles his child and the characters. Because even his son at a young age knows he should watch Phineas because they are breaking rules and might get into trouble. But Matt should have explained why they where doing so in the first place. Their goal was to enjoy summer. To enjoy life. And you are missing the point of shows when all you see are men fighting and killing each other. Because the world isn't fair and sometimes you need to understand the hardtimes earlier in life so it isn't harder to go through later in it.
Thank you matpat for spending a decade for teaching us and for giving us this great knowledge.
- The dad from Phiniues and Ferb
- the dad in bluey
- hear me out, Heisei Godzilla
- dinosaur train dad
- the dad from princess and the frog
Matpat is the only male role model I’ll ever need
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He gets lot theories wrong more often then a climate scientist. And even contradictory depending on narrative. . Such as the invincibles covering the negatives draw backs of having a mature brain
I hadn't really thought of it much until recently, but he really is a great dad. Especially now that he's left youtube primarily to be present for his son.
Even how, like Rick Moranis (and I believe Peter Gabriel? Maybe it was another musician) left the public eye for a couple _decades_ deciding to be fathers to their children over having major famous careers. That is something I *highly* respect!
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My mom actually bought this up to me once. As a mother of two sons who lost her dad to cancer before having ether of them it was something that genuinely offended her. She hated that there were few good male role models in media.
Sorry about your dad
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My personal belief has always been that it’s like that because it doesn’t interest boys, as a kid I watched characters like Batman, Optimus Prime, the Ninja turtles, ect, but I’m not violent these days, because without any intention, I took in all of these positive messages underlining these series and movies, how the characters acted, their morals, philosophy’s, beliefs, ect and have placed them on myself. It’s not that there aren’t any good male role models, it’s that, majoritly women, don’t see the role model's that are beneath them, and only see them as violent, destructive characters, which they wouldn’t have watched as kids because that isn’t what interested them.
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You posted this video almost a month ago and i couldnt bring myself to watch it because film theory was and is my childhood. Thank you, matpat❤i love you and your channels so much, goodbye💕
6:19 Princess Bubblegum is not as good of character as you present her to be. In the final episodes of the series. It’s her who’s running to war. It’s her who is making the mistakes and being angry over all the things her uncle has done. Finn is the one who tries to settle things peacefully. Sure he fails to do so, but he couldn’t have known the glitter was just Gumbald’s dumb dumb solution. And when you take a step back and look at all the things that PB did to her gum family, it’s pretty heartless. She left them as dumb candy people rather than trying to fix them. She spied on her own candy people for decades or even centuries. She has lied to her friends about who she is and what she does. Yes there is good she has done. But ultimately when the final battle comes, she’s the one who runs towards it. Not Finn
This was actually my favorite channel out of all the Theory channels. I will miss you a lot Mat Pat.
Me 2
Mine's food theory
Mine too, it was the first one I watched.
Well said! This is one of my top theories of all time. What a way to go out
Same :)
Roll it back to that example using Aang, he's actually a great example. When it gets to the end of the series with the big fight, where everyone says he has to use violence to put down Ozai, potentially even killing him, that he's naive for thinking otherwise... Aang says no, refuses to compromise on his morals of pacifism, and though he does fight in the end, it's almost entirely on the defensive, and he resolves it in a nonviolent manner.
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Yeah but...Ang has killed a lot of unnamed fire nation soldiers throughout the series so it losses a decent ammount of its message for me.
The key aspect of being a man isn’t fighting, but knowing when to fight, to defend the good. If we dismiss violence altogether in manhood we dismiss the forces that protect society.
@@Eis_Cold allegedly, and it’s not implied that he killed anybody, aang says it through the show
Nah. Your kid needs anngs laughter and iroh’s wisdom
Bye Matpat we all loved your videos we will forever miss you
i just wanna say, it's really rare for parents to actually care about the kind of media their kids are consuming and i applaud you for trying to be responsible about what sort of stuff you're letting your son watch. good job, matpat. thank you for everything you've done for us and good luck with ollie.
Yea parents need to be in control of the media their kids consume, kids are impresionable and are much more likely to be affected by the media: such as all the people pushing the ideas that girls are boys and boys are girls, everyone can be everyone.
I agree... I wish there was a series just dedicated to this particular subject
It's not rare at all, it's just most parents don't actively curate the media their kids consume. They just kind of passively complain about it
@@YayaFeiLong i personally think that if they truly cared, they'd make more of an effort to do something to keep their kids from seeing it rather than just whining about it.
Uncle iroh, bandit, nemo's dad, doofinshrmtz, and some random dude from game theory.
Thanks for the everything matpat. You have not just raised Ollie. You've also raised millions of kids over the years. Thank you.
@@cowdudedislikeshaters7410yeah definitely matpat sucks. I'm sure your TEN subscribers love your content dude you seem very successful 🤡🤡
The missunderstanding of batman from Matt patt is painful considering he trained all the robins to be recorcful. Also he sends the message that batman is meant to just be cool and strong. In my personal favorite batman storyline, Batman the Long Halloween you see more focus being put on the strategy in stoping the serial killer Holliday and the thought required to stop Holliday. You also see him across the years being defined by his trauma. For example after the death of Jason Todd you see the next robin trained in a way that priorities safety and recorcfulness. But also, Batman is not a good role model
Wow... Just having my tri monthly youtube binge and a film theory catch up ( which in fact is about a year since ive been here mat.. sorry) was in order. Only to find out it's the end of a very long and entertaining era. God speed my man! Good luck on your journey in fatherhood. I hope whoever takes over has the same wardrobe dwelling passion you have! 🤣
I like how matpats final theory is not about the good times he had, but the future that is coming, in the form of ollie. Way to go on a good hit matpat
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Excellently put! The cheerful hope for the future as Mat releases his final videos is truly inspiring. No wonder people put him in their list of 5 good father figures haha :)
Love the theory! One thing to note, though, is that Phiness d and Ferb didn't think they were breaking rules, and didn't hide anything from their parents. It just kinda ended up that the parents never found out. In fact, they told the parents, who didn't believe them, and a few projects they did with their dad or for their parents. Good role models in my opinion
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Counterpoint: there was that one episode where they built the fort to compete with their neighbors, and while Candace was running off to get their mom, they said, “Well fun’s fun, but there are those pesky zoning laws”, and then hid the thing. I think they also hid that giant lemonade machine they made that one time after it broke down, so yeah, they know they’re breaking at least some laws and they do it anyway just to have a fun summer.
@@collinvesel9362 At least they reverse it, but good point.
@@collinvesel9362good point, but the lemonade stand was just cleaning up, and they didn't seem to hide it, the'just normal kid stuff'(not exact words) was a reference to what they were told to do that day by Candace, and didn't seem malicious. Also, the zoning laws one dent like they didn't want to break the rules, so they changed it back before it could affect anybody, not letting fun get into harmony others or fighting the law, at least on purpose
This has already been said countless times I’m sure, but from the bottom of my heart, Matpat, thank you for the years and years of education and entertainment. I’m a person who heavily dislikes change as a rule, so the Theory channels and their consistent but always interesting content was always a comforting relief to come back to every week. I’m sure this new chapter for the channels will be just as good as the last ten years, and I look forwards to seeing it happen. Thank you for everything.
doofinshmirtz, bandit, iroh, mufasa, Miles’s dad in into the spiderverse
As a young boy, I always looked up to Spider-Man the most and I can say it was because of Uncle Ben. Seeing the 2002 movie and the famous line “with great power comes great responsibility” while seeing Peter struggle but ultimately keep his promise shaped me to who I’ve become. I think Aang is also a great role model to look after as well. His pacifist nature and kind heart has always been an amazing lesson for young boys. I think
I'd say that male characters are always seen threw the lens of a flawed hero/main character as their flaws are either embraced or worked on throughout the different arcs of the shows
Hiccup, Bandit, Uncle Iroh, Nemo’s dad, Mr Ping, Uncle Ben
Film theory has always been my favourite thank you for it MatPat
You mention hiccup but not my man
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I disagree with the conclusion, when I was a child I didn't want a role model I want an action destructive movie/cartoon setting in which I can put myself as a movie character. and probably be the best at everything
SpongeBob's dad - Caring Father
Kim Possible's dad - Supportive Dad
Light Yagami's father - Died trying to clear his sons name
Gabriel Agrest - Is dying and still trying to bring back his wife so his son can have a mother
Thanks for this Mat Pat. I have been talking about this for years. Awesome last episode. Best of luck.
8:06 Phineas and Ferb actually get permission most of the time from their mom because she thinks they are just pretending.
Yeah, that part felt a bit sloppy since Phineas and Ferb aren't trying to be bad, they just go a bit over the top because they're overly enthusiastic. I can understand the thought process because it's what Candace pushes, but it's a bit of a shallow analysis. I think it's also important to note that a lot of the other characters are flawed, but they learn to be better, bit of a miss to not note this down, though I won't deny that MatPat still isn't wrong either
Mat actually Uses Princess boublegum as a possitive example
@@homerman76well yeah but that is not really giving permission to do these things if we look from their mothers view
@@homerman76 Yeah, I was like "what rules are they breaking?" when he said that, like Candace is trying to get them in trouble, but at what point do the parents lay out any rules or give directives that they disobey? In fact, every time an adult authority figure gets involved in whatever they are doing, said authority figure is an enthusiastic participant. Their father, the grandparents, etc. They have implicit or explicit approval of their general activities from basically everyone that is aware of them except Candace, and Candace isn't ever the *ultimate* authority, even in instances where she's put "in charge" it's generally contingent upon some incredibly unlikely emergency scenario occurring first, so they're not even expected to obey her in the first place since the parents trust them to behave themselves even in the absence of adult supervision.
@@jordiko120Disobedience is still an international act. You have to know the rules to break them and Phineas&Ferb just don't know the rules.
Thanks you matpat. For everything. For being a dad to the internet. For being a theorist. For being our hope.
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2:52 Buggs Bunny was not having it 💀
Absolutely 0% of was in the Peter Pan movie and I nthe book Peter was serial ☠️ the hole magic that freezes them in time was invented for the movie.
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And girl in realife end lost more then boys . Taking into account spacial reasoning. Also girls can memorized faster and distinguish direction sounds more actually
Spiderman is unironically such a good role model.
Like he is literally the most lawful good character, unlike batman and other heroes Spiderman isn't cruel and brooding he just does what he believes to be the morally best action in any given situation. Not only this but he is still learning and navigating the world as a teenage while learning from his mistakes every episode, he always does what he thinks is right even when the whole world is against him while at the same time not taking anything too far. Like Spiderman literally went to a hospital and played games with a kid who was terminally ill at one point in the show, he even showed his face to the kid to show that anyone can be a hero, it doesn't get better then that.
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I'd Like to add Superman in there too. ALso Batman is not cruel, he does try to get the villains help in most versions.
@@firedragonproductions8035 I agree with you, I feel like batman isnt cruel but rather just not a good role model for kids or at the very least, Spiderman is a better role model for kids than Batman
@@firedragonproductions8035true,Especially in the animated series,He’s a really good person in that
Matpat addressed this in the video Spider-Man uses violence to solve his solutions
I have an 18 month old son, and Bandit is my husband's role model. I cant wait until my son is old enough to introduce him to Uncle Iroh
Or Goku.
I am an 18 year old boy and honestly i do feel starved of good male role models but i agree. I LOVE and want to be like Uncle Iroh not to just my children when i have them but to everyone
Honestly this was a beautiful last video, thought provoking and fun. Thank you Matpat, as a fan for over a decade, thank you.
I have the opposite answer to the question about good male role models. My mother always had trouble with a couple episodes of Bob the Builder. Bob himself is a pretty good role model from what I remember, but she noticed multiple instances of secondary characters lying or stealing and experiencing no consequences. The example that stuck out to me was the one where the pumpkin guy finds another character's lunch that they had been looking forward to eating later. The pumpkin guy eats most of the food and makes a mess, and doesn't own up to it when the other character discovers the theft. Then there was the episode where Bob and the gang were hired to install a front walkway for an old lady who didn't want to move her lawn sculptures. The machines break the tiles and damage one of the statues while screwing around, and Bob lies to the lady about why her statue looks different. The show tacitly told me that Bob could lie because he was the protagonist and that the pumpkin guy could steal because nobody saw him do it. So, not great
Somebody brought up Hiccup being a good role model, and I would like to add Stoic. Despite being stubborn and set in his ways, he shows he can admit when he's wrong and change his ways and to trust and support his son. He is a single father who raised his son from infancy. In the second movie, he cries and dances and sings with his wife. He takes care of and protects his family without taking away from their agency and trusting their own capabilities completely.
And while I do agree that Httyd is not for very young kids, and while Stoic does have some nasty flaws in the first movie, it is just as crucial to show that people can and do change.
But hey, that's just a theory. A FILM THEORY!
Thanks for everything Matpat.
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I fully agree man
This was the first Matpat channel I discovered and I’d just like to say thank you and goodbye to Matt ima miss you like a lot
Same, I saw his Harry Potter vids while in an ADHD spell. I was in love with his charisma. I fell in the rabbit hole, now here I am
Same I think
the moment the intro came on, the nostalgia hit so hard
I LOVE the owl house and kipo and the wonderbeasts so much but really anyone on the internet talks about them so I was so happy when matpat mentioned them! We will miss you matpat 😢
I remember hearing about how Phineas and Ferb never really knew that they were doing anything wrong, and if they were ever told to not do so, they would have stopped.
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True, while I agree with pretty much all the things said in this video, I disagree with the indirect claim that Phineas & Ferb is not a good series when it comes to teaching a kid valuable morals & lessons. I mean, the morals of this show focus more so on the concepts & ideas of learning how to think independently, do things by yourself, and use your creativity for problem-solving rather than to create perfect role-model characters. And as you already stated, Phineas and Ferb are not even trying to intentionally lie to their parents. I mean, as far as I remember, they told their parents quite often what they were doing. They just never believed them due to that being the main plot of the show.
Growing up I never had a role model in media, but looking back there was only one person I'd consistently want to watch and want to be just as seemingly intelligent and outgoing as they did. And that was Matpat, specifically this channel. Thank you Matpat, not for ruining my childhood like you think you did, but for making it.
it's so weird how people redefine their pasts for hollow comments like this
@@orang1921haha true
@@orang1921Imagine thinking you know someone's life better than they do and being confident enough about it to say this
i remeber one day randomly wondering how many ballons it took to make a house float like in up. i came across your channel and ever scence youv'e just been amazing thank you matpat you brought so much joy to my life and remeber its just a theory
Dam, a fantastic final episode to go off on. You will be missed MatPat and I will treasure all the videos you've done that shaped my growing years.
I did my Communications BA thesis and final project on this subject, particularly related to male characters in Disney media. It was such a weird thing to pitch, feeling like I was saying “we need more male characters” when really it’s “we need BETTER male characters.” I wrote a Disney-inspired film script based on much of the research you site here! It’s really something that’s not brought up enough. Thanks for bringing this to light, MatPat!
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Hey, I'd like to see that film. Can you put a link or?
That’s so cool!
My First thought was Mr. Rogers, he was such a good person, and even since his passing he's been an inspiration to keep doing what I enjoy and to do what I can to do to help others.
Someone else has reminded me of Doofenshmirtz who while "evil" does his best to make sure his daughter has the childhood that he didn't have, to right the wrongs he suffered through.
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Bear in the big blue house
@@joshjoshjoshjoshjoshjoshjjust goes to show how great father figures don’t have to be actual fathers
I thought the same thing for the Kratt Bros from Wild Kratts, they're such great people, but they also fight and are real human beings. Since Fred's real, that doesn't count.
Steve from Blue’s Clues, who grew up alongside Blue and showed young children how to analyze and problem-solve
That Lego study is quite interesting. As a young boy who was obsessed with Legos (still kind of am but in a more controlled manner now lol), I would kind of flip-flop between third person and first person when playing, but always leaned more to the first person, which as a guy seems like it is rarer. But then again, that would also explain why I enjoy games where you create your character rather than play as a pre-existing character. Really fascinating stuff!
I will never ever forget the first time I went to you're channel ever, I will miss you mat pat😢
The dad from Meet The Robinsons was a great role model.
"Keep moving forward"
Holy cow I totally skipped over that. Solid choice! Underrated movie
@osmosisjones4912
The dad and the main character were both great! Oh wait...
@@blakehoward2804 I see what you did there
Tatakae, tatakae
I remember being in around 5th grade and finding a video that looked really interesting. That video just happened to be a film theory and it was the first time I ever heard your voice. Film Theory will always have a special place in my heart for being my gateway to finding you. because if I never did, I would be a completely different person.
Thank you, Matpat.
- Sincerely, a theorist
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James Evans on Good Times. Philip Banks on Fresh Prince. Dan Conner on Rosanne. Hank Hill on King of the Hill. Jason "Furious" Styles in Boyz in the Hood. There's 5 off of the top of my head. I always looked up to men that were hard-working, family-focused, stern but loving. Sure, characters like Al Bundy, are fun, but I never looked at him as a "role model", the same way that I recognize guys like Tyler Durden, Michael Douglas in Falling Down and Joker (pick one) aren't "the good guy" or "right".
A LOT of very interesting takeaways from this video that I agree with. One thing i'd say though is that "bad role model characters" also serve an important purpose for young kids and not just the good ones, but he's arguing for there to be more good role models so I understand why he didn't say that. I find the research he talked about brought up many good points. Wish more comments talked about that instead of debating their favorite childhood cartoons
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I think you also have to understand that Ollie is a little kid and those shows were marketed for older audiences. Plus Barry from the CW Flash is a great role model. In fact a lot of superhero are good role models. I think the problem is that "why aren't there more Gravity Falls and Blueys"
@@aieeee4380 Makes sense. A lot of great role model lead males tend to have to fight a lot, and outside of that what we get left with is usually not great. I can think of one show that I grew up watching that fit what Matpat was looking for. I still love the show to this day.
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Honestly… film theory was my favorite. You made movies infinitely better because you understood how I hyper analyze everything I watch, and made me feel like that was a good thing. I will miss you. But even if you’ll be gone from CZcams, you’ll still be with us. But hey… that’s just a theory.
A GOODBYE THEORY!
Safe travels, friend.
FINALLY someone talking about this!! I think the first time I realized this was as a kid growing up with the Berenstien Bears- my dad never liked how Pappa bear was always kinda just the funny or angry one and it made me sad as a kid.
me and my therapist were talking about this a couple days ago and the only father figure character i could think of from my childhood was spencer from icarly and hes not even her dad but seeing how he stepped up and really tried to give carly a good childhood that he didnt get really stuck with me
I’m very glad he used his final scene for a good cause. He knows that these final videos will likely be among his most popular, so instead of hogging the attention he directs it towards a problem that needs more.
Legend.
Are you my cousin?
@@Finalizor i think you’re siblings
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It hurt to hear Mat say 'And cut' for the final time, but at the same time, it felt nice.
This is the beginning of a new Era of Theories and I'm super excited to witness it.
Thank you Mat, for everything. You will be missed and loved.
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@@aidentrone5645I did :)
Even if it’s MatPat’s final theory, I’m looking forward to what’s coming next for the Theory channels 💚
@@aidentrone5645lmao big man is mad and doesnt have a good reason to be mad
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Thank you so much matpat youve been the best love you my man ❤
I started on this channel and this is how I found the rest of the channels thank you Matt Casey Cooper's dad from Casey undercover
I think the reason I looked up to Aang and Luke is because they did fight. They were fun and caring but it's because they cared about others that they fought for them. Young boys should know that there are things worth fighting for. Nothing wrong with that imo.
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True
I think he’s talking more about the violence, and doesn’t want Ollie to think he can solve everything with fighting. (Idk that’s what I got out of it)
You’re not wrong.
For me, the best non action male role models are from Hayao Miyazaki films.
They’re not always action, fighting figures, there are plane pilots who design and marry, sorcerers who mainly just vibe, fathers who are bakers (Kiki’s Delivery service) and most of the time, they’re so gentle and soft spoken.
YESSSSS SO MANY GHIBLI MOVIE BOYS ARE LITEREALLY SUCH GOOD ROLE MODELS PLEASE WHY ARE WE NOT TALKIGN ABOUT THAT!?!?
Ghibli dad's are superior
Nah buggs bunny shooting a guy for coughing is crazy😂
John Q, Piccolo, Uncle Iroh, Iruka sensei, Chickie's dad (from Rugrats)
it took me awhile, but some dang good role models I came up with:
- Bob Ross
- Mr. Rogers
- Steve Irwin
- the Kratt brothers
I realize, however, that these were all from the 90's and early 2000's and don't really apply much anymore, but these were the only ones I could think of.
The beautiful thing is that most of them are preserved on streaming services and such!
Ooo i love wild kratts
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Omg yeah! I thought of the guy from blues clues too, the wild kratts especially! I love how they are in zooboomafoo