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  • "The name of the game now is money. Football isn't the cloth cap now... it's big, big, big, big business." - Manchester City chairman, Peter Swales.
    Kevin Cosgrove reports on the fortunes of Manchester City Football Club, an ambitious club dedicated to maximising their commercial revenue off the pitch in order to create the best team in the country on it.
    This clip is from Nationwide: Win Some - Lose Some, originally broadcast 18 August, 1978.
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Komentáře • 215

  • @lovethewave100
    @lovethewave100 Před rokem +171

    They would all be blown away seeing where the club is today and the money involved.

    • @charles-vq6sd
      @charles-vq6sd Před rokem +2

      True

    • @bonzodog6872
      @bonzodog6872 Před rokem +18

      The only thing that would be blown away is Peter Swales comb over

    • @roaarylion5214
      @roaarylion5214 Před rokem +1

      Then they see the oil

    • @NazriB
      @NazriB Před rokem

      Lies again? Business Trips

    • @jamesgreen8573
      @jamesgreen8573 Před rokem +3

      It’s disgusting what it’s become, sold there soul for success

  • @therobot6667
    @therobot6667 Před rokem +48

    I think Nationwide did a series on City back in 1978, this is part of it. Would love to see it complete if it still exists.

    • @andymiles6311
      @andymiles6311 Před rokem

      On CZcams

    • @Spectrescup
      @Spectrescup Před 10 měsíci +2

      There was an ITV documentary covering the Allison/Bond transition. It's on here.

  • @zyban99
    @zyban99 Před rokem +39

    There’s some great combovers in there

    • @wr6392
      @wr6392 Před rokem +4

      Their teeth are shockingly decent. Haha

    • @nickgreen105
      @nickgreen105 Před rokem

      Hard to believe anyone thought that was a good look! Did they have clippers in those days?

  • @Ian-gw2vx
    @Ian-gw2vx Před rokem +64

    I was going regular in 1978. Dad always parked his car in the streets of Moss Side to be met by local urchins asking for money to "look after your car" He always paid and no damage done. Probably the Gallagher brothers. Great memories though.

    • @dealsfactory5289
      @dealsfactory5289 Před rokem +2

      In the 69/70 season some of the adjacent houses took in bicycles for a fee

    • @Drumm3rB0y
      @Drumm3rB0y Před rokem +4

      Gotta love Liam and Noel
      Love from Dublin

    • @cgavin1
      @cgavin1 Před rokem +3

      @@Drumm3rB0y Wash your mouth out!
      Sure you meant to say Rory and Dónal!

    • @Drumm3rB0y
      @Drumm3rB0y Před rokem +1

      @@cgavin1 as much a legend the Big R is, I’ll always be loyal to Liam and Noel

    • @nonaynever4361
      @nonaynever4361 Před rokem +4

      We used to park outside croke park in Dublin young lad I’ll look after your car mister, no it’s ok there a Rottweiler in it.
      Can it put out fires mister.

  • @MrBobsmith34
    @MrBobsmith34 Před rokem +40

    Allowing for inflation 1 million in 1978 is slightly over 6 million now. So that was yearly running costs of the club. Today City's annual expenditure is about £565 million

    • @colincolin5696
      @colincolin5696 Před 3 měsíci

      How much money do Man City bring in today tho… that’s the difference. Man City have massive yearly costs but still make more a year than they put into it.

    • @MrBobsmith34
      @MrBobsmith34 Před měsícem

      @@colincolin5696 yes revenue has gone up in tandem with costs but I suppose what the whole FFP case about city is trying to determine is whether costs are meet by club revenue or cash injections by the owners

  • @metas6755
    @metas6755 Před rokem +25

    I'm 93 now. I still remember my grandpa taking me to this stadium back in 1923. Quite the golden days, ain't it? You lot should've seen Bobby Goldien. He was quite a good goal scoring chap with his immense physique.

    • @miamitten1123
      @miamitten1123 Před rokem +3

      You remember the King before Elizabeth II?

    • @metas6755
      @metas6755 Před rokem +3

      @@miamitten1123 definitely

    • @hi-ls6lt
      @hi-ls6lt Před rokem +2

      Maybe insensitive to ask, but how would you compare watching Pele and Maradona to Messi and Ronaldo?
      Or would the different eras not make that possible?

    • @metas6755
      @metas6755 Před rokem +3

      @@hi-ls6lt thank you for the question young one.
      Forget about them lot. I saw a player back in my day who was Swift as a horse, stout like an elephant and as hungry as a bloodlust tiger. His name was Teddy Oliver Goldien. 6'3, can dribble, defend, block, tackle, shoot, score and assist. He did everything. I must admit things are different now compared to when we were playing 7-8 men up top as a striker but the fundamentals are still the same.

    • @hi-ls6lt
      @hi-ls6lt Před rokem +2

      @@metas6755 thank you for your answer sir. I wish I was able to watch Terry Goldien but I’m lucky to have people like you around to tell me all about players like Terry, who we may never see like again. Once more, thank you for taking the time to answer my question sir. I wish the best for you 😊

  • @jdm65
    @jdm65 Před rokem +45

    Wonderful combover collection. The following year, those cash conscious directors bankrolled Allison's insane spending spree.

    • @RollaArtis
      @RollaArtis Před rokem +3

      They call this hairstyle the 'Bar code'...it was prevalent in the 70's

    • @daviddare8882
      @daviddare8882 Před rokem +2

      yeah I think Swales had the most impressive one

    • @Smokemeakipper41
      @Smokemeakipper41 Před rokem +5

      Swales and scargill were seperated at birth

    • @YeOldeFootballChannel
      @YeOldeFootballChannel Před rokem +3

      Sold Peter Barnes to West Brom and spent 1 million pounds for Steve Daley, who did... nothing.

    • @michaelroberts7374
      @michaelroberts7374 Před 3 měsíci

      Kaziu Deyna❤

  • @andya6461
    @andya6461 Před rokem +28

    Interesting how some things change, interesting how some things never change.

  • @alexandermoonen6170
    @alexandermoonen6170 Před rokem +3

    Love archive.Every time I watch archive it’s well-worth watching.

  • @sammyb1651
    @sammyb1651 Před rokem +7

    Anyone else getting Frank "Hoss" Cartwright vibes from Swalesey when he starts with the: "chips, teas, pies" material? Bottles and cans, everything under one roof.

  • @joshuataylor3550
    @joshuataylor3550 Před rokem +11

    Very interesting foreshadowing

  • @northernvibes6838
    @northernvibes6838 Před rokem +2

    Loved the kippax
    Best memories

  • @philiplevins6702
    @philiplevins6702 Před rokem +3

    sat at the table knowing your rocking the strongest combover...go on Peter my son

  • @ipuya
    @ipuya Před rokem +26

    Wow what a different world. Sales were conducted using coins!

  • @GBGOLC
    @GBGOLC Před rokem +2

    The writing was on the wall back them, but even these guys could not imagine where football would be today with regards to revenue and turnover.

  • @MANCHESTER.IS.BLUE.49
    @MANCHESTER.IS.BLUE.49 Před rokem +16

    Absolutely fascinating seeing stuff like this.. I know Swales had City at heart but the club was mismanaged during the 80,s as the club could not compete.. but did have a great team from 1990 to about 1993 but then just fell away when the premier League started. Just didn't have the money to compete, but the fans stuck with that club and now deserve all the success that they are having right now...love City ..💙💙💙

  • @nigelhorton1115
    @nigelhorton1115 Před rokem +1

    Great example of the Comb Over

  • @H_E_N_X
    @H_E_N_X Před 5 měsíci +1

    1:00 that is the most impressive comb over I've ever seen.

  • @iany8230
    @iany8230 Před rokem +1

    Peter Swales!!! He used to own a record shop in Alty. Famous fan Stuart Hall! Where did it all go wrong!?

  • @tradingcardboss
    @tradingcardboss Před rokem +1

    I remember as a kid some 50 years plus while reading about what was happening to sports in America . I thought the amount of money they were investing in players and the sports. It would one day happen in England and beyond seems have come to fruition

  • @fattypark
    @fattypark Před rokem +16

    Jimmy Conway left City to pursue a successful career in robbing airlines and tipping waiters highly generously

    • @jdm65
      @jdm65 Před rokem +5

      Ah, beat me to it.. The forgotten City years between the Lufthansa heist and being ratted out by Henry Hill.

  • @AJM-timecop
    @AJM-timecop Před rokem +1

    Still remember my pork pie & cup of tea in the corner of Maine Rd in the mid 70s. Good days.

    • @nicknewman7848
      @nicknewman7848 Před měsícem

      seeing as you're a timecop you could always travel back in time to a dark, freezing cold, wet February and stand for 2 hours on a terrace and relive the good old days watching the ball getting stuck in the mud.😁

  • @cgavin1
    @cgavin1 Před rokem +7

    How much things have changed.
    That pat on the backside at 00:41 would get you a criminal record in 2022.

    • @nicknewman7848
      @nicknewman7848 Před měsícem

      Not if it was consensual..eh? Know what I mean? wink wink

  • @torstenmaier5624
    @torstenmaier5624 Před rokem +1

    When football is not so high paid, the sport can win overall.

  • @lolgrant
    @lolgrant Před rokem

    If you close your eyes when Swales is talking apart from the subject matter of course it's like listening to Peter Hook.

  • @glynquigley4364
    @glynquigley4364 Před rokem +3

    It is weird to watch this in 2022. Today City are in a totally different economic reality to 1978 and do have one of the biggest wage bills and go for big name players. I suspect they won't have the same result to their ambition as happened in the early 1980s. We won't see Pep gutted, having lost a last day "winner stays up game" as in 1983

  • @michaelt8682
    @michaelt8682 Před rokem +1

    that is a serious comb over that chap's got

  • @stevenwilcox8631
    @stevenwilcox8631 Před rokem +19

    40 plus years later the club is run by Abu Dhabi royal billionaire Sheikh Mansour who under the City Football Group owns a string of football clubs around the world. It goes to show how far football has gone in the world of business since this was aired in the 1970s.

    • @Smokemeakipper41
      @Smokemeakipper41 Před rokem +7

      It's called sports washing with a healthy dose of financial doping

    • @thedave7760
      @thedave7760 Před rokem

      @@Smokemeakipper41 It's called brainwashing, get down on your knee boys cos someone is oppressed, we will tell you who is oppressed and you had better agree with us bigot.

  • @anisdesai4692
    @anisdesai4692 Před 29 dny

    He'd be astounded if he knew how big that business is.

  • @Doggomorph
    @Doggomorph Před rokem

    Money but ethics is important too

  • @daviddowney7703
    @daviddowney7703 Před 11 měsíci

    Look at them now

  • @Ellio1862
    @Ellio1862 Před rokem +10

    £150,000 a year to run Maine Road back then, doesn’t even cover one weeks wage for a player.

    • @attackpatterndelta8949
      @attackpatterndelta8949 Před rokem +4

      £150k in 1978 would be worth around £680k today.
      But yeah, the money is crazy.

    • @juz882010
      @juz882010 Před rokem +1

      they said 1 million to break even

    • @JimGall
      @JimGall Před rokem +2

      £150k to run Maine Road.

    • @miamitten1123
      @miamitten1123 Před rokem

      @@attackpatterndelta8949 Still doesn't cover 2 weeks wage of a player.

  • @citymad2mancitymad644

    CITY TILL I DIE ..THOSE DAYS THE ROLLERCOASTER UPS AND DOWNS NOW ITS ALL UPS COME ON YOU BLUES

  • @dommidavros2211
    @dommidavros2211 Před rokem +2

    £150K for the maintenance! I bet they spend that on the Christmas party now! 🥳 😆😆

  • @meropealcyone
    @meropealcyone Před 23 dny

    Now, did Jimmy Conway play for City before or after he masterminded the Lufthansa heist?

  • @caeserromero3013
    @caeserromero3013 Před rokem +20

    Was there ever a time when City weren't money crazy??

  • @DanRaffaele
    @DanRaffaele Před rokem +14

    Was that a toupee, a combover, or a toupee with a combover?

    • @arilebon
      @arilebon Před rokem +3

      All 3!

    • @grahamhill9499
      @grahamhill9499 Před rokem +2

      He was only 29 when filmed

    • @traceya9615
      @traceya9615 Před rokem +3

      None of them - it was the classic Swales' Grecian 2000'd Shredded Wheat. He'd have demanded image rights for it nowadays.

    • @remotefaith
      @remotefaith Před rokem +2

      It’s a toupover

  • @paulhewitt6614
    @paulhewitt6614 Před rokem +23

    The great days of football. Not like the crap now.

    • @randyborstol2491
      @randyborstol2491 Před rokem

      global capitalism today and idiot sheep roll up to watch

    • @UnbelievableEricthegiraffe
      @UnbelievableEricthegiraffe Před rokem +7

      Rose Coloured Spectacles You seem to be wearing.

    • @jasonking6892
      @jasonking6892 Před rokem +2

      Spot on

    • @paulhewitt6614
      @paulhewitt6614 Před rokem +4

      @@UnbelievableEricthegiraffe no mate. Just enjoyed watching proper football, no rolling around faking injury. Proper 50/50 tackles. And no stupid VAR.

    • @miamitten1123
      @miamitten1123 Před rokem

      @@paulhewitt6614 It's the same now....except for VAR ruining it.

  • @mainchannel1566
    @mainchannel1566 Před rokem +18

    It took nearly 40 years, but they did it.

    • @johnny545
      @johnny545 Před rokem +7

      Nope some Arab done it singlehandedly, not one person from Manchester has had anything to do with Manchester City current success

    • @iandavis1723
      @iandavis1723 Před rokem +5

      @@johnny545 There are plenty of people from Manchester who have, and still work for the club for many years behind the scenes.

    • @bhaskarmukherjee8710
      @bhaskarmukherjee8710 Před rokem +1

      @@johnny545 true, truth hurts for some people

    • @MANCHESTER.IS.BLUE.49
      @MANCHESTER.IS.BLUE.49 Před rokem +1

      @@johnny545the sweet smell of success may I add

    • @jamesgreen8573
      @jamesgreen8573 Před rokem

      @@MANCHESTER.IS.BLUE.49 it would break my heart if that was my club, it’s absolutely vile

  • @HDsharp
    @HDsharp Před rokem

    15p for a football program booklet. How much is it now?

  • @kevinbrookes4870
    @kevinbrookes4870 Před rokem +1

    God the fiddling we did operating those turnstiles. Let’s just say we made a few bob on the side lol

    • @juliancrittall3291
      @juliancrittall3291 Před rokem

      Was it the turnstile scam?. Two fans going through together, the turnstile registering one?. I was going to Spurs matches back then, great memories.

    • @kamandi1362
      @kamandi1362 Před rokem

      I’m not surprised, but it’s nothing to be proud of.

    • @kenreynolds8531
      @kenreynolds8531 Před rokem

      @@kamandi1362 Always found the gatemen at Maine Road miserable and unhelpful.

  • @markfrench9004
    @markfrench9004 Před rokem

    Dr Evil: 'One billion dollars.'

  • @alingard1
    @alingard1 Před 28 dny

    We could be selling pies.
    Hahaha.
    City. Always thinking big.

  • @lowfatmofat2152
    @lowfatmofat2152 Před rokem +3

    best team in the land and all the world....City...City

  • @jasonking6892
    @jasonking6892 Před rokem +2

    Happy days . Real England 🇬🇧
    Brilliant

  • @decmcgovern9281
    @decmcgovern9281 Před rokem

    Noel Gallagher would love this this lol

  • @freddyeverready
    @freddyeverready Před rokem +1

    15p for a program 😲

  • @user-lm1os2jy7y
    @user-lm1os2jy7y Před 26 dny

    I’ve got no doubt he was a proper blue but what a blagger.

  • @ramo1824
    @ramo1824 Před měsícem

    3:57 Making a fortune selling chips tea...😂
    We should be getting that money
    Speaking like a true gew

  • @natureclips5849
    @natureclips5849 Před rokem +1

    City have always been money obsessed

  • @pocolol8424
    @pocolol8424 Před rokem +6

    Is that Peter Swales?

  • @thebat7048
    @thebat7048 Před rokem +6

    Wonder whatever happened to this team called Man City 🤔

  • @RustyLightningPhoto
    @RustyLightningPhoto Před rokem

    To see that the football league go from near bankruptcy to the PL being the richest league in the world, that money just needs to filter down to help the lower divines now.

  • @AntGeezer
    @AntGeezer Před rokem

    ‘Go out and spend a couple of hundred thousand on a player’. That won’t last will it?

  • @MegaALEXLOUIS
    @MegaALEXLOUIS Před 2 měsíci

    Tallest floodlights in the league. True pioneers.

  • @phillipecook3227
    @phillipecook3227 Před rokem

    A very young Mark Radcliffe doing the report?

  • @nealpatrick3881
    @nealpatrick3881 Před rokem

    We want to sell everything to the fans , but it will cost them more. That's what he meant

  • @BOZ_11
    @BOZ_11 Před rokem +14

    he thinks burger vans are "making a fortune". It's remarkable how small minded and somewhat deluded the people at the top are

    • @Darwinion
      @Darwinion Před rokem +9

      An individual stand won't be no. But if you added all those tea/coffee/burger stalls together with a few local shops it would amount to something half decent. West Ham have stripped all that away and it's awful.

    • @BOZ_11
      @BOZ_11 Před rokem

      @@Darwinion I think the sum of all burger vans is still chump change, and you're essentially robbing 100+ people of a meagre living for a 0.3% increase in match day earnings. There are so many legitimate financial avenues to pursue, but this miserly dolt insists on putting his hand into the burger man's quite shallow pocket.

    • @moonbaby6134
      @moonbaby6134 Před rokem +3

      Swales. Always was a fool

    • @redwingrob1036
      @redwingrob1036 Před rokem +11

      LIKE Cloughie said, the average football directors know nothing about the game!
      THE americanised, commercialised, politicised & racialised 'game' of today I find totally nauseating.
      I haven't been to watch a game for 20 years; & lastly they're called football GROUNDS, not stadiums!
      AGAINST MODERN
      F⚽⚽TBALL 110%.

    • @BOZ_11
      @BOZ_11 Před rokem +2

      @@maxwellboyne2770 businesses selling for 50k might have an annual turnover of roughly 80k, but i think burger vans around football grounds would make even less than that, since my example is of businesses that run all year round, so i think 60k is closer. Take out running costs, employee wages, taxes; bearing in mind it's only home matches and the end of season break is nearly 3 months long, net profit is probably about 15k, annually. For 20 vans you're looking at 300k per year, on the high end. That 300k is 1 week's salary for 1 top player, and it took a year to earn it. Chump change

  • @odoherty9434
    @odoherty9434 Před 20 dny

    He is right unfortunately

  • @shanekelley7682
    @shanekelley7682 Před rokem

    Expect to see Noel Gallagher on this video!

  • @bulentgunes7954
    @bulentgunes7954 Před rokem

    ve bugun sampiyonlar ligi sampiyonu nerden nereye

  • @funkyrodent66
    @funkyrodent66 Před rokem +3

    funny, greed has always been in football. but sky sports will make you believe its the overseas' owners ripping the game from us. LOL

    • @SK-kh2rs
      @SK-kh2rs Před 8 měsíci

      When have sky sports said that? They love overseas owners spending as it helps the product they are selling

    • @funkyrodent66
      @funkyrodent66 Před 8 měsíci

      @@SK-kh2rs you must not have a sky sports subscription

  • @snookerstones
    @snookerstones Před měsícem

    Ran the club into debt around this time

  • @UncleBooBoo
    @UncleBooBoo Před rokem +2

    Were there no decent barbers in Manchester at the time?

    • @David_D.
      @David_D. Před rokem +8

      Doesn't seem like it and looking at Foden's noggin there still isn't.

    • @andyhowpog
      @andyhowpog Před 2 měsíci

      @@David_D. Foden's noggin, LOL! And I'm a City fan!

  • @sjacrane
    @sjacrane Před rokem +3

    Grubby money oriented little man.

  • @imgoingtocountdownfromthir4580

    Swales out!

  • @dragonofthewest8305
    @dragonofthewest8305 Před rokem +4

    44 years later Man City are still the same lol

  • @matthewleslie4448
    @matthewleslie4448 Před 9 měsíci

    They would be relegated five years after this clip

  • @lcvillafan
    @lcvillafan Před rokem

    Now they spend a billion on 4 defenders

  • @njm1259
    @njm1259 Před rokem +1

    They’ll never be a big club they just don’t have enough money

  • @bobacrey1068
    @bobacrey1068 Před 9 měsíci

    Made just before Swales let Malcolm Allison go mad with his ridiculous purchases

  • @thewhitedoncheadle8345

    best haircut?

  • @Raul87fat
    @Raul87fat Před 6 měsíci

    one of the most ambitious clubs in Europe?? I thought they were rubbish that time

  • @thesatisfiedcustomer4869

    that wig

    • @beijingbond
      @beijingbond Před rokem +1

      ...played at the back in the 80's.

  • @garrybaldy327
    @garrybaldy327 Před rokem +5

    Hello, Peter Swales, you dodgy dealer, you. Still undercounting gate receipts?

    • @imgoingtocountdownfromthir4580
      @imgoingtocountdownfromthir4580 Před rokem +2

      I remember when they announced the attendance, everyone on the Kippax laughed, the crowd looked like 40,000 and they announced it was 25,000, he was a dodgy bugger Swales.

    • @Doggomorph
      @Doggomorph Před rokem

      See his face already know he overwork his workers and take their reward

  • @ive3336
    @ive3336 Před 22 dny

    saying the public shouldnt be making money off the club when the club is built off the backs of the public is such a dumb statement

  • @StuartAxe
    @StuartAxe Před rokem +1

    Then as now, football is about money and greed. Nothing changes.

  • @0898007
    @0898007 Před rokem

    Ford erectors

  • @joemorgan636
    @joemorgan636 Před 4 měsíci

    WOW WOW look from 1978 to today all the oil money from abroad billionaire Man City buying leagues unbelievable

  • @asensibleyoungman2978
    @asensibleyoungman2978 Před rokem +3

    In 40 years time City will be owned by Vesuvians and people will hark back to the good old days when earthling oil sheiks owned it.

  • @jerrydandrige1987
    @jerrydandrige1987 Před rokem +1

    Back when city didn't buy their history

    • @thetruthk5138
      @thetruthk5138 Před rokem

      All the successful teams do

    • @Smokemeakipper41
      @Smokemeakipper41 Před rokem

      @@thetruthk5138 maybe but most use their own money 💰 not dodgy oil / blood money from middle eastern dictatorships

    • @thetruthk5138
      @thetruthk5138 Před rokem

      @@Smokemeakipper41 Makes it more competitive though just waiting for my team to get a major investment

    • @SK-kh2rs
      @SK-kh2rs Před 8 měsíci

      ​@@Smokemeakipper41there's nothing dodgy about oil money fool 😂 they found oil and sell it in exchange for gazillion of dollars and then they spend those dollars

  • @rjpaws
    @rjpaws Před rokem +2

    FFP cheats

  • @boringlyawesum
    @boringlyawesum Před rokem +3

    britain was so much better before all this diversity poison

    • @uncleraul3462
      @uncleraul3462 Před rokem

      Behave. They smashed it on Britains Got Talent.

  • @Porkcylinder
    @Porkcylinder Před měsícem

    ‘Big BIG business’ pfahhh is only he has a clue 😂😂

  • @tomjones1424
    @tomjones1424 Před 3 měsíci

    😂😂biggest comb over ever