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  • čas přidán 26. 08. 2024

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  • @AoSCoach
    @AoSCoach  Před měsícem +20

    I recognise the audio quality wasn’t it’s finest in this discussion, and it was noticed in post-production. I could either scrap the video or publish and hope you come along on the ride and tolerate. Thanks to those who persisted 🙏

    • @jmcolext
      @jmcolext Před měsícem +1

      @@AoSCoach It wasn't as bad as some are acting like. All the information was there and it was easy to understand! Thanks for all your work coach.

    • @chrisg3726
      @chrisg3726 Před měsícem

      @@AoSCoach audio quality wasn’t that bad guys! Totally listenable and a really useful chat!

  • @adamray4020
    @adamray4020 Před měsícem +4

    People are sleeping on the Tzeetch mark. I would argue it's not great but better than Slaneesh and would have been meta in some cases if marks were chosen during deployment and not during list creation. I have seen battle reports from 4.0 with endless spells lifting units. Being able to deny endless spell damage isn't horrible, just very situational.

    • @estoc5467
      @estoc5467 Před měsícem +1

      I absolutely agree. There are enough movement shenanigans to make the +1 feel quite niche. Whereas Tzeentch has fittingly become the mark of casters to save them from dying to spells.

    • @AoSCoach
      @AoSCoach  Před měsícem

      I don’t mind it as i mentioned in the video but there are other marks that are stronger.

  • @stevecatpatrick8056
    @stevecatpatrick8056 Před měsícem

    STD Is also going to have some good play with the nurgle regiment. You can put Blight Kings into the Gaunt summoner, and the harbinger combines well with all the offensive control score abilities we have with our artifacts and heroics l. I think there's a control score-based build there somewhere. Putting the conquerors crown on a Lord on manticore marked for -1 to wound seems like an effective way to use a bunch of models that seem less useful at first glance.
    The obvious army of using the cavalry and such is obviously better The primary way but this is another fun option I see for those of us that own those models.
    I also see an option to run a list around the unlimited spell we have. Take the coven of thrix and the lore with the mirror to maximize your casting bonuses, take the gaunt summoner to throw 20 warriors with the -1 to wound forward to take the place of power to set up your castle. You can definitely get the ability to throw out 12 to 15 mortals a turn At whatever comes to you at +2-+4 to cast. I think you can get your chance to fail even including banishments down to less than 20% like that, which should be a pretty viable build. Not talking tournament competitive but fun and effective enough to play and enjoy.

  • @ryanbowald2425
    @ryanbowald2425 Před měsícem

    I think the basic nurgle chaos warriors are really underrated with a 5+ ward from sorcerer lord. With 20 models in the unit, you can defend objectives a lot easier. They don’t hit soft either and seem very hard to clear off an objective

    • @AoSCoach
      @AoSCoach  Před měsícem

      You're right... everyone talks Khorne but Nurgle is very strong. Most people prefer to play offensive rather than defensive, which is where Khorne always creeps forward but a Khorne+Nurgle S2D brings the best of both worlds.

  • @ichbins5138
    @ichbins5138 Před měsícem

    Hi Coach.
    I would love if you put CZcams Podcast on Spotify again.
    It was always a joy to listen while driving

    • @AoSCoach
      @AoSCoach  Před měsícem +3

      I'll get some up on podcast again soon.

  • @gwilks7447
    @gwilks7447 Před měsícem +1

    For some reason the audio was much better for me using headphones instead of my PC speakers. Maybe that will help someone because this was a great listen. Thanks Coach and Jordan.

    • @AoSCoach
      @AoSCoach  Před měsícem

      Thanks for letting me know… the great mystery of CZcams of 2024 it seems.

  • @theopkid2485
    @theopkid2485 Před měsícem

    I was wondering what your thoughts are on the swords of chaos army of renown, I’d say it has great potential

  • @somanythings9074
    @somanythings9074 Před měsícem

    Thanks for the video guys really great info. The audio was fine 👊

  • @zebposada
    @zebposada Před měsícem

    Do I get to roll in the eye of the gods if I kill a manifestation? They're units for the purpose of the combat phase...

    • @AoSCoach
      @AoSCoach  Před měsícem

      Unfortunately not. While they are treated as an enemy unit for the purpose of combat range, they aren’t actually an enemy unit for slain model purpose, same reason you can’t score a battle tactic from slain manifestations

  • @hessamemami6936
    @hessamemami6936 Před měsícem +3

    really valuable information in the video but terrible sound quality. my ears really hurt after listening for 2 hours to this. but as I said, really good content was said in it.

    • @AoSCoach
      @AoSCoach  Před měsícem +1

      Thanks for sticking with us, i did have a warning about the audio not being the best pinned to the video. Your dice will be blessed now with lots of 6s

  • @j.rivera1974
    @j.rivera1974 Před měsícem

    Would a second result of 4 on the EotG improve your ward to a 4+ or is 5+ the best you can get?

    • @Crimthaan
      @Crimthaan Před 22 dny

      @@j.rivera1974 5+ is the best you can go

  • @rteishe
    @rteishe Před měsícem +1

    Excited to hear about my S2D today in this new edition & faction pack, but this audio is ROUGH. Just sayin' 😊

    • @AoSCoach
      @AoSCoach  Před měsícem

      Wasn’t the finest audio, i understand. Post production it was picked up and sadly it was either scrap the video or publish as is

  • @craneduelista
    @craneduelista Před měsícem

    Impassible ouch 😅 with this big piece.

  • @GiantShoe
    @GiantShoe Před měsícem +1

    Chaos Sorcerer Lords cant take Chaos Furies in their regiment.

    • @tizianomerello6530
      @tizianomerello6530 Před měsícem

      I think you can belakor eternus furies furies chosen reg1 and sorc lord knights knights reg2 !:)

    • @AoSCoach
      @AoSCoach  Před měsícem +1

      I might have messed that one up in translating the list into the presentation. Thats what you get working from a legal pad sent over twitter dm’s 🤣

  • @Wicknology
    @Wicknology Před měsícem +5

    I get that you invested time into the conversation to make content and that tou had to get the video out, but Jordan's audio is unwatchablely bad and i just can finish this.

    • @AoSCoach
      @AoSCoach  Před měsícem +1

      Sorry you felt that way, certainly hard getting audio correct half way around the world. I’ll try harder in future discussions, however; i’d rather release this than scrap it all together. Appreciate you watched as long as you did

    • @Wicknology
      @Wicknology Před měsícem

      @@AoSCoach Do you just record the video call or do you have separate audio tracks? If you dont already do the latter, I would suggest you have the guests do a local recording and send it to you. The software to do it is free and syncing the audio doesnt take too long.

  • @Sasukejepansef
    @Sasukejepansef Před měsícem +1

    Honestly StD got incredibly shafted, it really makes me sad just how boring and underwhelming the "index" is. Manticore lord hits like a total wet noodle compared to his 3e counterpart, Demon prince sat on shelves for the entire 3rd edition only to be slapped with 100% point incrase in 4th?
    What the hell is GW thinking, its obvious no playtesting was done at all, just spam cav and hope for the best, the book has no options at all.

    • @AoSCoach
      @AoSCoach  Před měsícem

      I’m hoping we don’t end in Varanguard/Knight spam lists. I get that people are excited about getting Abraxia on the table.

    • @robtaylor94
      @robtaylor94 Před měsícem

      Every army is somewhat boring right now. Flavor incoming over time with new tombs. It will work itself out.

  • @marcinkarolczak
    @marcinkarolczak Před měsícem +3

    I would never expect I will be so disapointed. Those rules look like no one putted any effort and thought about what will be played, no replacement/substitution to cabalists/ knights of the empty throne/host. Ok it is a "new game" but there is no depth like it was in the past.

    • @em3sis
      @em3sis Před měsícem +2

      @@marcinkarolczak if it's anything like the 40k release for 10th, it's purposefully limited so you learn the bones of the game so that they can fully expand with the codex/battletome

    • @estoc5467
      @estoc5467 Před měsícem +1

      Our "competitive" battle formation is damaging objectives. No army cohesion or thematics.
      Any decent warscrolls we had were absolutely gutted by points.
      I was looking forward to 4th, but not now. Very disappointed after the points release.

    • @marc-andredeslauriers7687
      @marc-andredeslauriers7687 Před měsícem +1

      @@marcinkarolczak cabalists: magic is toned down all around. Having 3d6 by a defunct heroic action seems too much in that context. Now we’re all Cabalists lite with free Endless spells and Nexus Chaotica
      Knights of the Empty Throne: Swords of Chaos or cav focused Godswrath warband is your best bet. Our cavalry lists will work differently but fine, with easy buffs through Eye of the Gods.
      Host of the Everchosen: rally rules are included in command unit rules and Ensorcelled Banners don’t exist anymore, alongside a lot of overrules across all indexes.
      With a lot of easier buffs through EotG/DP buff/CSL buffs, good warscrolls and great rules (like Strike first Belakor), your worries are unfounded until we try the army and get some actual feedback

    • @AoSCoach
      @AoSCoach  Před měsícem +2

      If it helps, all the armies have been reset and no doubt that depth will return with the battletomes. I recognise your frustrations, i know some of my lists haven’t been exciting without that depth we previously enjoyed

  • @hungrymatador213
    @hungrymatador213 Před měsícem

    Hey coach, great video. We are having a bit of debate at our club as to wether a Daemon Prince of undivided can use his Ruinous Favour ability on chaos legionnaires. Arguments have been made for and against, as in it needs to be a 'mark of chaos' created keyword or because 'Mark of chaos' is an ability not a keyword that the resulting keyword carries argument. I'm curious what your take is or if you have heard what they might say in the FAQ if anything to clear it up.

  • @Vasily_Kotickovitch
    @Vasily_Kotickovitch Před měsícem

    And now to the bad news: if I understood correctly, then according to today’s free files for AoS4, I’m really fucked with “Legends” rules: there are not and will not be any Greenskins, Phoenixes, etc. In short, if the miniature has _live_ game, then for other systems there will not even be legend rules! I.e in fact, models of one system are categorically banned in others.
    That is, I have tons of vintage fantasy miniatures on round bases and adapted for the Mortal Realms, and GW now tells me to go play the Old World? Let GW go to hell...!
    Let's see how 40k players sing when the Leman Rus tank is removed from the Imperial Guard army and left only for the Solar Auxillia in in the Horus Heresy!

    • @AoSCoach
      @AoSCoach  Před měsícem

      I’ve had models retire too and it sucks. I get it. Plenty of models i can’t use also because i bought them as allies which are no longer in the game and i don’t have plans to expand into a full faction

  • @ChiefBones
    @ChiefBones Před měsícem

    I hate premiers. 😒

    • @AoSCoach
      @AoSCoach  Před měsícem +6

      Long into YT after it premiers and enjoy it how you see fit 😄

    • @bumgilligan
      @bumgilligan Před měsícem +1

      I hate seeing the premier thumbnail thinking it's a video I can watch now just to realize I have to wait 😢

    • @em3sis
      @em3sis Před měsícem +2

      I actually like them so I can plan for it instead of waiting for the random upload

    • @pierre-lucheroux1560
      @pierre-lucheroux1560 Před měsícem

      Jordan Jordan !!!!

    • @pierre-lucheroux1560
      @pierre-lucheroux1560 Před měsícem

      Can’t wait for tzeentch !

  • @Nazgull2k1
    @Nazgull2k1 Před měsícem

    "Darkoath Horde" ... has 10 Darkoath warriors...
    This is just embarassing

    • @AoSCoach
      @AoSCoach  Před měsícem +1

      It’s a typo from when the army builder wasn’t even available. Get over it

    • @Nazgull2k1
      @Nazgull2k1 Před 16 dny

      @@AoSCoach no. And just for clarity... what exactly is the "Typo" here??
      The DARKOATH HORDE banner at the top?
      The DARKOATH HORDE Battle Formation line?
      Or the 10 Darkoath Warriors you put in it?
      Because 1 of those isnt a typo..
      Maybe you explained it, but since nobody could hear a damn thing in this video anyways, aint nobody got time for that nonsense. Stop the cap.

  • @Nazgull2k1
    @Nazgull2k1 Před měsícem

    i cant hear anything he's saying. At all.. Its all gibberish. Why would you even upload this?

    • @AoSCoach
      @AoSCoach  Před měsícem +1

      Put some headphones in. There is a warning in the episode description

    • @Stainlesssss
      @Stainlesssss Před měsícem

      total drama queen, get a grip stuff happens, its not that bad, either get some good info for free or screw off ^

    • @Stainlesssss
      @Stainlesssss Před měsícem +1

      @@AoSCoach i dont think bro has ever played xbox multiplayer lmao, great video, learned a lot