Asmongold Reacts to Madseasonshow Quitting WoW
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- čas přidán 26. 07. 2021
- Asmongold watches the latest MadSeason's video; his decision has nothing to do with the recent Blizzard Lawsuit and investigation but more with what happened in Classic WoW, Classic TBC and Shadowlands in the past couple of years...
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#Asmongold - Hry
So many players were loyal to Blizzard for so long, but Blizzard was never loyal to the players.
To be fair, they were once.
Then it all changed.
20 billion dollar company in a capitalist country wasn't loyal to it's consumers? Truly shocking.
@@Vihara2 they stopped being loyal way before that.
Blizzard is loyal to money, but we all know that, before going in.
Great reaction
When even the chillest and calmest WoW player and content creator had to quit the game he loved for years, then it means that the current state of the game is reeeeaaally bad.
been playing since TBC and LOVED IT
now... the game sucks my soul and my money
finally, FREEDOM
well not TBC....
@@sayg2240 or maybe it's just fine to move onto something new?
Same with Bellular. I’ve never seen him go off like he did recently. I mean he’s normally been vocal but chill. But man….he is so DONE!
"I'd rather have a channel that's dead, than one that isn't alive."
Man that hits hard.
No ot dorsnt
@@N.Narwhal yes ot dors
@allah is satan mahomet - baphomet This is called HAVING PARANOID SCHIZOPHRENIA.
but not being alive is dead lol.
@@sethwho7913 how can you be dead if you're not alive? what are you smoking?
Thanks Blizzard. You single handedly made my childhood amazing with Blackthrone, Diablo, Warcraft, StarCraft and WoW.
And I hate you Blizzard, because you ruined all off them
SC2 is still the best RTS on the market imo. I'd agree with the rest.
@@chrisgoblin4857 I agree, sad how it’s not super popular. It’s so underrated.
This is exactly how I feel. So fucking sad.
And now d2r... they butchered a legendary fucking game just because.
Thank you to the old team, F the new team
Someone so agreeable and loyal like Madseason quitting WoW really hit me hard.
he said he was planning on quitting after vanilla classic was over. him staying for tbc was a surprise. this is nothing shocking about him quitting :P
@@zamorak666avesatanas8 YEP
@@bamf6603 yes because none of his videos have less then 50k views so what are you talking about
@@bamf6603 BAHA SIMP
Same dude i watched his content from start, i quit aswell but just see his video now :(
What a legend
You are a legend too.
Wow. A legend like you giving respect to another legend. Amazing.
@@mitkoshredder True. I've been watching Aculite play with Tom ever since they started with PUBG and eventually with Stone.
HOLY SHIT THE OG PKA SPONSOR
You coming back for battlefield 2042?
Seeing Madseason leave is tough, knowing how much the game meant to him. It only shows how much is wrong with the game right now.
@@minecraftminer59mineboymin38 Ok Steve.
Blizzard back in the days: How can we make a really great game? Now: How can we squeeze the money out of people doing the bare minimum?
All game companies are like that today
@@halolime117 Not all. Most AAA's, yes, but nowhere near all.
@GRAPHENE IS IN THE MASKS, SWABS and PCR TESTS!!! what did you smoke mate?
The prophecy was true , only wow would kill itself .
i need this in the Thor Ragnarok meme format.
Indeed, but I don't think this is what most people had in mind when they were saying it a decade ago.
@@Vihara2 my memory of it was for wow2 being the idea
All these years and mmorpgs who claimed to be wow killers never killed it.
Darrowshire private server. No cash shops, no donations, bot detection, no layers, 6k+ pop, vanilla. F R E S H. Launches July 30.
Game design philosophy: the game is so good that you want to pay to skip it.
But it doesn't work that way, games die because of the endless greed. There isn't any WoW killer since every single MMO these days is pay2win. The first solid MMO with subfee only, no cashshop at all and a sufficient GM team to deal with RMT will be "the WoW killer".
Was saying that shit was bad in XIV years ago. However they copied WoW by example.
not always the case when i was playing wow years ago i quit for a little bit and when i came back somehow blizzard lost my account so i had to start over and the boosts atleast kept me from having to relive the leveling grind all over again.
@@isaacxi3514 imo the FFXIV shop isn't bad they sell mostly cosmetic things and with the boosts you can only buy one per account and it doesn't get you all the way to max level, only enough to get you to recent content.
I want to be paid to skip it
As a former WoW player myself, his video and especially the last part hit me pretty hard. Farewell and thank you for the memories.
Man, this makes me remember when WOW was new and I saw the trailers, watching my dad play, him letting me play on his account with my own character, the friends I made, the experiences I had, and now it's all gone. This makes me really sad, I miss the old days of Blizzard.
Character progression is literally the entire game. Take it away and there's nothing.
@@AllWillBeRevealed957 is he also? :D kekw, that explains it
@@AllWillBeRevealed957 wow antisemitic king
@@RealmRabbit hello based department? We got one
Wow! Just like in every other MMORPG. And any 'RPG' game in general xD
I will never, ever forget a moment I had playing Diablo 2 in early 2000s, with a full party of random online players, hacking our way through Act 2 in Normal, with shitty magic and rare items, and I had the thought "I'm having more fun here than doing Baal runs in Hell for gear". I remember it so clearly.
So many people are quitting Wow, even without factoring the news of the lawsuit in... it's crazy to me. The news of the lawsuit showing how deep these issues have run and bled into the games performance and the community. Really hurts watching all these dots being connected and just being left to watch to fallout of the company I once loved and wanted to work for. Its a shame.
I quit before all this started, was gonna come back at the end of 9.1 for the raid...yeah, not now.
Yup, I had been playing WoW for 16 years and just unsubbed for the first time (about a week before the Patch 9.1 release date announcement).
WoW fans are now dropping Blizzard without the verdict, much like how Blizzard axed Kael’thas’ VA without a second thought. Funny how that works.
I think it’s funny how people are letting politics ruin the fun they have on a game. I don’t agree with what happened at blizzard but it’s not gonna stop me from having fun on a game
Well, u are soon the only one having fun playing that P2W game 😂
I had the same take-away from this Madseasonshow video as Asmongold. Over the last 7 or so years, I've periodically mused with friends that we could come back to WoW when we're all retired, and raid from the comfort of our retirement homes. Even while joking, there was no doubt in my head that it would be an actual option to us, even decades from now. Obviously, I didn't keep track of the changes that Blizzard made since I left. This was very illuminating, to say the least. Now I feel like the time I got an imported chocolate bar as a kid, and saved it until it was waaaay past its expiration date. I feel like I didn't fully enjoy WoW while it was great. There were so many things I was hoping to eventually do, but now there's no value in doing it. After watching this, I'm not even sure that I would even enjoy a virtual walk down memory lane. Man.
Ngl you said it perfectly. It was hard for me back then to understand and fully appreciate how good WoW was back then. The things I missed and will probably never fully experience it.
Yeah... Times change I suppose. I made the same mistake, but I think it might've been for the better, somehow.
the phrase: "no king rules forever" is so god damn sarcastic, coined for one of the best raids of wow, where the game was at it's peak, the lore was so excellent mixing what you could play in warcraft and it's expansions and the lore of the wow expansions. It really is sarcastic and sad how this game is dying by the same hand that made it.
The hand is attached to a different body now. Activison-Blizzard is not Blizzard.
You mean ironic not sarcastic, lmao. But yes, extremely ironic.
Do you mean ironic? But I 100% agree
@@cbmason it is blizzard. this is your blizzard. stop romanticizing them.
@@NaraKwonPoD What? WoW Development started in 2001, the activsion-merger didn't happen until 2008, since that time practically every notable Blizzard developer has moved on, Blizzard is literally a corpse stuffed full of activisions money. If you think its the same Blizzard that it was 20 years ago, you haven't been following whats been going on.
Asmongold. A former wow player, is now a resident erper that resides in limsa, after clearing all of the ultimate raids and forcing zepla to be a lalafell for a full year, he gets married to a person who pretends to be yshtola.
Canon ending.
Sadly the game doesn’t support polygamy so he’s going to stay married to Rich while the Y’Shtola is just going to be a mistress.
@@thatonedude675 unless the person who pretends to be yshtola IS rich
@@thatonedude675 yeah. if he went catboy, he could've become a Nunh and having a harem would've been encouraged by game lore.
He aint qutting wow cause he wants to, WoW is quitting itself.
Still better lore than Shadowlands.
At the end even Asmon just sounds sad. I was too. It's crazy how Blizz is able to push away people who've played their game for 15 years. They didn't just lose another subscriber. They lost Madseason. Hope the best for his new content
They just lost Preach too.
@Andy Chou What in gods name are you talking about? He specifically says this has nothing to do with the lawsuit or allegations.
@Andy Chou Poor leftist troll, go outside. You don't even know what reaction you're trying to get or who you're trying to insult nor how you believe you're insulting them. GO OUTSIDE, LEARN HOW THE WORLD WORKS.z
madseason is part of why i started wow again after not touching any expansions ever. played vanilla, saw the horseshit and moved on. came back at the drought of WoD just to take a look-see and had the good sense to quit again during BFA.
@Andy Chou Eww.. what a cutie
35:56 to the end, absolutely beautiful ending for Madseasonshow, couldn't see it any other way. Those last 5 minutes are a master piece.
Right in the feels. Damn, end of an Era. It feels like our heroes are dead and gone. We enter the dark ages now.
Dude its a video game
What’s crazy to me… this guy is a new guy who started making videos after I stopped regularly playing wow… but apparently he started making videos over 6 years ago
I've never even played WoW and this shit is depressing.
It’s the guy’s voice
You know, that's more of an accomplishment these days since all we have left of it are found memberberries and private servers.
More reason enough to stay away from it, far away
I managed to play it for several hours and it didn't click for me. I always found it weird as fuck and obnoxious that you need to buy the game AND spend on it monthly. They would still profit on the game if they had the subscription for 1/3 of the price but the milking spirit was always strong here
The sad part is the wow player base has way more female players then the other online games like CoD this killed the golden goose so to speak
*Blizzard gets caught for something terrible*
Blizzard - “Why would Asmongold do this?”
Some of them probably think this, for sure.
That montage at the end was so epic and heartfelt. So many memories good and bad.
Part of what I loved about my time on WOW was feeling accomplished when I earned a piece of gear, mount, etc. I have no respect for a person that just pays for everything.
Remember of Sha of Pride? Literally WoW's own Sha. Arrogance kills, and WoW is a prime example of that lesson.
SoO was the last time I heroic (now mythic) raided or cated about the game one bit.
@@Hhh-j8o for me was throne of thunder, didnt get past heroic durumu though xD pandaria was so fun damn
@@RealBullbear durumu lfr on release. The only time I ever saw 9 stacks of determination. People can't follow a maze smh lmao.
that fight and lei shen lfrwhere the worst although topping the dps as druid tank in lfr was hilarious
Fun times,time to sleep forever now WoW
The way I see it: For mad season, it’s the end of an era but the dawn of a new beginning. He said he’s not quitting making content, so that’s a relief. I can’t speak for anyone else, but I watch him for him not WoW. WoW is dead, but not the immortal mad season!
WoW is far from dead. It’s dying for sure.
Yeah, wow aint close to dead. But fuck me its getting closer by the day.
@@dunkirito8308 Is it really far from dead though? MMOs have accelerated free falls. The more players that leave the faster players will continue to leave.
Content for the game is already very far behind to the point where Shadowlands is guaranteed to be missing a whole patch worth of content unless they decide to wait longer to release the next expac...
We know sub numbers have been reaching all time lows since WoD otherwise they wouldnt hide the metric.
I think to pretend WoW isnt in a horrible state is alittle naïve.
@@familyvalue5588 I never said WoW isn’t in a horrible position, though. It *is* in a horrible position, hence why I said it’s dying. However, the moment WoW releases a new expansion, everyone will be jumping back to play and check out the new content.
@@dunkirito8308 Again i think thats naïve, while its true numbers do jump each new expansion, the following months after they almost always dive to *below* the number of subbed before the expac was released. Not to mention that after each expansion is clear more and more players are getting fed up with the game. I also underestimate how many players play games now to have "shared streamer experiences" AKA there is a large portion of folks that play a game that their favorite streamers play just to be like them and have a chance to meet them. I dont think its an extremely small group of folks either. Unless the wow team makes some radical changes for the next expac, and let it bake awhile, i think the game is really only one expac away from dead. Yes, we both agree its dying, but it seems for some reason you think it has the chance to slowly decay, but i really doubt that.
1:20 "The graphics we good back then."
Also released in 2004:
Half Life 2
Fable 3
Metal Gear Solid 3
Driver 3
Far Cry
Ace Combat 5
Silent Hill 4
Battlefield Vietnam
Killzone
and many more.
Honestly heart shattering, the golden days of gaming are done, it's been a slippery slope for a while, nothing is the same anymore.
And this was all made before the court case was made public. He must be feeling pretty reassured with his decision right now.
I would say if anything he just feels sorrow about it, having so much passion for something and slowly finding out its no longer what you loved is a painful thing. I felt that way at the start of mop and since then I have became a seasonal player because while I love the lore the things they started doing just got worse and worse for me.
@@ShardsOfStone it’s like when you have a girlfriend and over the time she becomes something you just cannot love anymore
and if you stay it’s just going to become toxic 😞
@@ImJustSage I felt that Sadge
Servers are packed though? Keep feeding that misinformation kid.
@@joedemaggio8749 stop spamming the same msg over and over!!
as someone who loves the classic zones like westfall which bring me back to simpler times, yes, the emptiness of the world is an absolutely catastrophic side-effect of boosting
Yeah, leveling in classic is rough now
I played wow for myself. I didn't boost, I didn't know dungeon que existed so I just walked around doing any quest I found and it was fun. Any new, better piece of gear felt earned. Then I played for a friend of mine who had a bunch of characters that he asked if I could level up and all I did was sit in stormwind and wait for the dungeon que to find a group. Boring af but it is apperantly the fastest way to level up other than boosts now. Blizz killed WoW.
@GRAPHENE IS IN THE MASKS, SWABS and PCR TESTS!!! Paranoid schizophrenia is characterized by predominantly positive symptoms of schizophrenia, including delusions and hallucinations. These debilitating symptoms blur the line between what is real and what isn’t, making it difficult for the person to lead a typical life.
I know waaaaaaay more about wow than I should because of Asmond. How many hours have I played? NONE.
Once I was close to playing because my dad bought it as a gift for me, but I convinced him it was a bad idea. I was like 12, and was legit scared at how addicted some of my friends were.
Then you proceeded into saving the world single handedly? Whatever did you earn by not playing the game lmao, more money to spend on games?
Lurid Dream
Pointless, aimless, meaningless, cynicism for cynicism sake.
@@luriddream take your idiotic toxicity somewhere else, fanboy.
You made the right choice by never playing it. There is so much of my life that I will never get back that I wasted on this shit game.
@@DavidsGameplayMC
Speak for yourself David. I met allot of good friends on this game that I still play with to this day. Made a lot of good memories and was very happy back in the day. Obviously I don't play the game anymore because of how shit's become but it still holds a special place in my heart.
Will certainly miss you Madseasonshow. I hope life is great in your future bro. Wishing you huge success.
"When you charge money for something you can produce infinitely at zero cost, like in-game currency, that's not a service, that is the fucking death of economics as a concept."
- Yahtzee Croshaw
Insert Federal Reserve meme here ----->
that's nowhere near how it works. Even if it costs them do it, it will ultimately ruin the economy.
Fed
I mean isn't that kind of how money works in the world anyway? It doesn't even cost 1% of $10 for the US Gov to produce a $10 bill.
@@robgreen5943 Yeah, then you get a hell of an inflation because there's so much money going around. The difference is that games have what's called Sink holes, which is places where money disappears. When you buy something from a shop in the game, that shop isn't richer, that money just vanishes. In real world that doesn't work, because money isn't destroyed but flows through people's wallets.
The answer isn't a re-do. The answer is to end. Like a bad relationship, stop holding on to the good times in the past. It is what it is now and it's time to move on.
That's the only thing we have in our power and blizzard has no control over.
the only way i'd play wow again is if blizzard bought themselves out of activision
@@illiji915 What would that change? You realize that its not activision fault for everthing? All OG's from blizzard are gone even if they split i dont think much would change
Sir you have a brain
Lulz rn the problem is blizzard not activision 😂😂 some jp IP need to buy blizzard ez way
watched this and preach's quitting video....honestly brought me to tears. the pillars of the game that ive played for more than half of my life are crumbling away. the game itself is collapsing and the end is coming for the first time that ive actually been able to see. im not sure if there will ever be a game that makes me feel the way wow has made me feel and Im not sure if ill even find joy in playing games when this ride finally does end. never thought it would.
What a sad thing to see, I quit halfway during cataclysm but sometimes check these videos just to see what's up. With this latest scandal it hits me extra hard, because some of my best years were spent playing wow. You either die a hero, or live long enough to see yourself become the villain. The irony is not lost on me, it seems that after all - no king rules forever.
Seeing MadSeason quit WoW with everything going on is Monumental. I grew up on WoW and loved the game Blizzard created. Today, it's hard to enjoy the game in addition to the trash going on at Blizzard HQ...
Shut up you virtue signaling wet napkin. If wow was actually good literally one one would give a shit about what’s being said about HQ. it’s all virtue signaling.
@@atlas874 wow hasn't been good in years tho
@@atlas874 had a fking stroke reading that
im glad i quit after getting my T3 in naxx, I already had so many memories from TBC and actually playing it. Why let blizzard sour that with the remake, because it was already on thin ice with how they treated vanilla. Really sad, they had magic in a fuckin bottle and they just let it all go.
@@lolitaexpresspilot88 literally this ^ except wow is still trash regardless
When you lose Legends like Madseason, you know something is really fucked up there.
Preach is pretty much done, too. 3 days apart they announced their exit from the franchise that defined their channels - hell, their careers.
Blizzard, this is what you're doing. Pay attention now.
@@synx7874 yea they will just add more p2w aspects to milk addicted playerbase even more
as a person that joined wow in legion, I am sad to say I joined in the end of what was wow. I too recognize the strengths of vanilla, tbc (which when I was a kid looked so intriguing and awesome- really wanted to play the game back then), wotlk which like classic had an awesome structure, Cata (which again thrilled me to shits when my best bud told and showed it to me, and seemed similar to tbc in gameplay mechanics and layout), mists (which took a hit in the story by the end, personally and also suffered from kung fu panda syndrome), wod (awesome questing, leveling but was crippled by bad mechanics and poor planning in the end) and legion (the purely amazing end to an unbelievably long and fantastic journey, though also came short in some of the mechanics departments, but was ok. suffered slightly from issues in end game dungeons imho).
Bfa and shadowlands has continued to build on what made wod and legion so tedious and unrewarding. sure the quests and story was pretty damn alright, though many flaws can be pointed out in the core plot of bfa and sl. sl introduced more of the little things to do, but at the core gameplay was just garbage and not well tuned, especially bad in pvp.
the absolute worst part in later years is the way the game is structured to force you to have a sense of urgency to get to the end of the game in order to enjoy it. Gone are the days, in huge contrast to classics release where you can progress horizontally as well as vertically.
You could take time to read quests, go back and forth. Gameplay was to be found for everyone, not just those that had finished the main grind. leveling is no longer an achievement. its no longer about the journey. questing was not awesome by itself, but you felt accomplishment for every step you took. completing a dungeon, finding the secrets within while acquiring stronger than usual gear in order to stand out and steamroll normal quests afterwards is completely lacking these days.
There is no longer a gear piece that you can loot that you feel like you just got in your hands a relic, a weapon or armor piece that was specifically there for a reason, for you to find that makes you so so much stronger, gives your character debt and has a story behind it both in lore and in real life as to how you as a person got this item. The same goes for the mounts. The talents you learned along the way felt like your character just had a revelation after just barely getting by after taking on a pack of six wolves, or a particularly strong and badass opponent, after completing a quest for someone or for discovering something.
That sensation when you meet another player that is doing the same as you, and you both compete for the same resources. Sure its' not the most fun experience then and there, and you might lose out. But come on, looking back, these interactions were some of the most flavorful in the game as a whole. "hehe look look, I'm gonna jump this guy if he thinks he can take my flower ... f***k he's five levels above..! Run run run run!". That moment you are minding your own business picking up mushrooms in barrens as a random dude runs past you with a herd of horse-people coming at him. and of course you got spooked, your reflexes got the better of you and you died as a result of it. however just afterwards you are greeted with a short and hearty "thanks bro" from the dude that ran past. You might have later seen him again and managed to get by your first dungeon together. Perhaps you meet him again, and again, or you became friends. companions even. soon you both were part of the same guild, adventuring together with others that also were just as silly. Logging onto wow wasn't a chore, it was adventure, friendships, passion. Through both thick and thin.
I want to close with saying the only place I've seen similar passion is on RP servers, and honestly the reason I became into RP. I no longer trust Blizzard to be able to give me that sense of adventure, and I take it upon myself to create or find it myself with others of the same mindset.
RP is very much like dungeons and dragons, you make the game you want to play, instead of waiting for Blizzard to give you what you want.
I play on Argent Dawn (EU) Hit me up here or ig. my mains are:
Rashaveer - Horde
Wollfe - Alliance
I just recently started the game again after years, it broke my heart not to find people to level up with. Then the lawsuit came... I really want to play since it was one of the only good memories I had with my dad but it's just not the same anymore.
I'm not someone who really gets emotional about movies or anything but man Madseason's video made me tear up a little bit at the end. Been watching his videos for years and it's just sad to see the passion fade away.
Same here man, but I really liked Madseason and the end of that video was not only his goodbye to WoW itself, but also reliving the memories the game once brought all of us. Absolutely broke my heart, and every time I rewatch it, as soon as the song kicks off at the end I can't help but tear up a bit. :/
Same, that ending hit me in the feels....truly a passing of an era, man getting older sucks, everything changes
@@jamestomlin5525 this has nothing to do with getting older, it's everything to do with the game and blizz being absolute dog shit. I've quit wow completely, but I'm still going to go full neck beard on other games like FF14, new world, and FPS.
Same dude..end of an era
I mean who can be passionate about wow nowadays. Reality is around 99% of the players playing wow hates playing wow but can't cut the tie with it due to having over a decade of awesome memories with it. Eventually for anyone there comes a point where you can't take it anymore and you're tired about a company abusing you.
Its weird seeing WoW fall like this...
Its like finding out that your childhood best friend is now going to jail for sexual assault. You don't disagree with it, but you're still a little sad.
nothing is falling. these streamers are shiling hard for furry weirdos’ game which is designed for literally consoles which requires 0 skill whatsoever. the reality is 400 ppl queing for my pug key within 2 minutes.
@@anatolianshepherd8472 Someone clearly hasnt played the game. Take this from a cutting edge raider : The rotations are way more complex than in wow, and even the pve content is harder.
@@anatolianshepherd8472 lmao what? FFXIV have much more complex content, the PvE is far superior
not weird at all. Its been a long time coming slowly dying and very soon will be on life support. The sad part is, it's own hand will pull it's plug when it's there.
@@anatolianshepherd8472 Mate, WoW also has its wierdos catering features; they just don't have a proper big known name for them. Come on, sexy purple goat girls or sexy undead elf lady that am pretty sure was in so many peoples fantasy despite the fact that she's technically a living corpse. That still counts as necrophilia. Yeah WoW has its own wierd shit too so don't throw stones if you live in a glass house.
"Dude, do you think your mom could order us pizza, man?" This comment brings back memories. To be young again.
12 yrs of WoW man what a game! Im so glad i quit wow after legion. Thank you blizz for all the memories ill cherish them and treasure them. Met a lot of spectacular individuals whos passionate about the game. Thank you blizzard for making such a great game. Sadly no king rules forever.
The lack of "We'll see you again, soon." Hit me harder than I care to admit.
Me too my friend, me too.
Seeing this company crumble ever since cata is like watching the fall of Rome in the gaming world. No king rules forever.
Yeah but whitout barbarian issue . Its like rome kill herself for the sake of history....
@@Niterayde that makes no sense you trumpy nutter
This is literally exactly what I was thinking. Wow was the Rome of mmo’s, it lasted almost two decades and seemed invincible. It started decaying many years ago but we just witnessed Rome being sacked for the first time and now no one can deny the games on its way to dying
that ending was super sad.... seems a time of our lives is starting to close completely like SWG closing - its a hard pill to swallow.
the ending hits especially hard because he cut out the "see you again soon"
"We are too late. This entire city (blizzard) must be purged!" - Arthas Menethil
"We are too late. This entire company must be sentenced!" - The State of California
"Arthas, you are making the right decision, I will support you every step of the way."--Uther
@@sadi5713 Didn't Ubisoft do the same thing? Where are they now? Oh right. Business as usual. Face it. Mega corps are above the law. Nothing will come of this lawsuit. Activision-Blizzard won't have a complete staff overhaul, it won't change the way they make or monetize games, they won't be shut down, they won't go bankrupt.
@@Blitzkrieg1605 dont worry, bobby has his connections to sweep everything under the rug, just like the other people in epsteins book.
Im with Asmon in this one, they need to nuke and erase everything since Arthas death in WotLK. Even lore is beyond salvation, at this point is just a bunch of stupid/complicated nonsense.
I don't think its a coincidence that WotLK came out in 2008 and Activision merged with Blizzard in 2008 when it couldn't effect the expansion. I hope I feel will happen with this is true and it will lead to a renaissance for WoW.
@@Ayuima69 🤮
@@Ayuima69 I vomited reading this travesty
Nuke entire company. Get some old devs back. Some amazing new ones, Make WoW 2. Entire plot is when we actually were killed by arthas, everything that happened after was just the death transition or something. Some kind of fever dream. Tirion still broke free, shattered frostmourne and delivered the final blow to Arthas. He was unable to resurrect us because arthas was almost finished turning us into ghouls. Our bodies were already too gone to be saved. From here you could kinda pretend shadowlands was the end of the death dream and you awaken in the real shadowlands and find a way back to azeroth. Or, redo shadowlands and have us just wake up there, OR just forgo everything after WotLK and chalk it up to fever dream, and we start cataclysm, or whatever else, and begin the opening cutscene with a celebration/memorial for the fallen heroes and Tirion after the fall of the lich king. Bolvar, albiet, unknown to the public, is still wrestling with Ner'Zul for the rest of eternity. As for Sylvanas, no amount of retcon can make me unhate her.... except maybe retcon her being saved by the Val'Kyr after throwing herself off icecrown. Just end her. She is already ruined. Garrosh can be redeemed. Potentially. To paraphrase Asmon, I want to play games that are really fucking good.
Not gonna happen man. It'll cost too much money to make. If I were them I'd just cut their losses and dip.
'Wrath will be over in a week' Ah, how times have changed and so quickly too.
I had a ton of fun for months with Classic and i recently learned about the boosts in TBC Classic and it makes me wonder whether or not i should even try.
I quit WoW for good around 2008 or so, , but watching that ending montage, man it really made me feel like I was part of an era. The hardest part of growing up and growing older is truly knowing the blissful ignorance and childhood happiness you had back then.
So true man, so true. :(
I was part of that era with you, along with millions of other people. It wasn’t just a game, it was a period of all our lives that we shared together. Like when I look back at the old days of wow, I’m not just thinking of a game, but also the carefree kid I was at the time, and all the friends and memories I made. Like they say, you don’t miss something until it’s gone.
You were man. We lived through the golden age of mmorpg gaming. A time before pay to win, cash shops, dumb system mechanics came into play designed to prolong gameplay to make you pay more. There will never be another like it. Sad to see it end like this.
you got all the best parts of WoW, the game started dying after Wrath. but if you quit in 2008, you didn't play much of Wrath of the Lioch king then. I quit in 2009 and didn't start playing again until 2013 (which I now regret)
the start of wow sucked , legion is where it started getting good.
This hit hard dude, man it’s such a rollercoaster of emotions….
*Tips fedora while entering the chat* As a WoW player for 13 years, this video was a rollercoaster of emotions. I've been stress-eating ever since Blizzard got sued and Asmongold shared his opinions on it. I pray the women at Blizzard are okay. I can't play a game knowing women were harmed.
A rollercoaster that only goes downwards and right before the finish line they play your childhood before your eyes.
Then you hit a wall.
@@g_rub1950 I began playing at later vanilla, naxx patch, I was so happy back then….
Got me teary in that last part of his video.
I'mma be honest. I played WoW for like a week, about 2 years ago. I just never discovered it(which is kind of amazing). I have no attachment to the game.
But, I did play a lot of other games. When Madseason's ending montage came up, I thought "this guy loved WoW like I love all the games that I do". And, even though I've basically never touched WoW, and even though I only discovered Madseason recently, I just find myself... Sad. Sad that he felt so defeated and so disappointed by this whole situation.
Much love, everyone.
"All we did in WoD was run around in circles in our garrisons and talk politics." legit lol'd IRL, so damn true
I was one of the rare people who thoroughly enjoyed WoD. Not at all because of the content but the story was interesting enough to me because I was a lore nerd who knew more was coming. I actually had skilled friends in WoD though. Pushed arenas and Rbgs and did mythic progression raiding. Ran old content with guildies often. I enjoyed how most classes and specs played at the time. All my downtime was spent dueling anyone and everyone in warspear and I actually enjoyed ashran if I had a buddy because it was really stupid fast gear for a fresh max level.
Must be why wow has turned into such a commie cesspool. Seems to still be all anyone does.
Atleast WOD gave us some of the best leveling zones.
I would wager Kotick doesnt even know the name of the current expac.
@@darkrager872 I can't tell you how wrong you are. Its blizzard executives molesting molesting employees, but its Activision execs putting financial pressure on Blizzard, causing them to do things like the boost, or wow token. Activision is quite literal the root of the corruption in this case.
@@ethanfogarty9540 ahm... you are wrong too. As of now, activision companies such as King and Treyarch are molesting and abusing too.
Blizzard has made so many decisions in WoW (most of those borrowed power and other stupid systems) on their own. Acti surely put some pressure on them, but the stupid decisions are their own.
Thats at least what i heard. If you have some prove that you are right and i'm wrong, i would love to see it. I only have my knowledge from some youtube videos who claim to be in contact with blizzard devs.
Sounds like a safe bet.
@@darkrager872 Well, my previous comment got removed for some reason, but I can tell you that Bobby is unironically an evil corporate man and you shouldn't defend him.
Accidentally calls it Shadowbringers...
It’s been a long time since I really invested time into playing WoW. It’s gotten worse but I thought it’d go on longer. I didn’t know what to expect out of the games death or decline. But damn I’m sad it’s going this route. A lot of the things or people I enjoyed/admired end up being scummy and take advantage or exploit a group of people. It really sucks when the things you enjoy or look fondly back on from childhood get tainted.
I used to play WOW with my three young nephews, we started just at the end of TBC 8, 10 and 12. I really miss those days I sometimes want to log on hoping I would see them all there, but they have long since gone grown up, and moved on I rarely see them now.
With FF music on the background, what a legend.
Every one of his videos has Lot of square soft music. And Zelda.
Real awesome stuff!
Madseason was the one with the final fantasy music
The ending is like watching a friend die...it's not just that madseason is ending his wow journey..it's the death of a era with wow in general.
All we have now are old videos to revisit on youtube.
WowHobbs, Hayven Games, Madseason and old Asmon videos..end of an era.
rest in peace Hayven Games :(
One day we're going to find ourselves trying to convey how lit things were in the wow content community...but it'll fall on deaf ears..
And we'll just sit silently with our nostalgia
Fucking rip. Haven't played in a couple of years and found myself going down this rabbit hole only to find out how dead wow really is. There's no going back
I've never played WoW but once in a while I would take a sneak peek with my friends. I really wanted to enjoy the game like they do but I never did. After watching this video... I don't know why but man do I feel sad about the whole thing that is going on right now. I've never heard of Madseason but he sure sounds like a pretty chill guy.
The graphics in WoW were simplistic even at launch in 2004 but they had a consistent style and ran on a wide range of hardware and they looked artistically good for the rendering cost. Back then you could already do bump mapping on some GPU hardware. Games of that era that showed this included Halo 2 and Riddick Butcher Bay. WoW avoided that but they had some interesting use of blended multi-texture and particle effects to pull off an interesting look. It was not "good" by the best standards of the time but they had vastly more 3D content that just about any other title.
If someone new to mmo asked me if they should try wow or not?
I'll say: " just do drugs."
They both actually have a lot in common. The initial high is great and then you waste your life away chasing it.
@@F110mech You're describing addiction
Or like just play on a private server. Blizzard is the problem, not wow
@@pendejisimojuasjuasj Hence why I said they have a lot in common...
Rn wow is better,u'll quit in 1 month 😂😂
"Cant buy friends? Sounds like its coming from someone with not enough money"
-asmonGOLD
It’s so depressing how something that became such a huge part of my life from the time I was 10 years old until now at 25 years old is seemingly crashing and burning so hard…
Im about the same age as you ,started playing at about 10 and I’m 23. God getting older sucks. I wish I could go back to that kid whose only thing on his mind was getting home to hop on wow with my friends. Having to watch a game/company that was such a big part of your childhood dying. It’s like a piece of my childhood has gone with it.
Blizzard deserves everything they get for going NCSoft on their game.
The end of an era
And the beginning of the seventh umbral era
Yes yes "The Apocalypse". PS: see you on the next expansion.
@Honudes Gai yes or no.
One problem is that there's been a dearth of competition - serious competition - attempts in the MMO space for the last 10 years or so because everything that tried was crushed by WoW. So the games being made right now are in the best place to capitalize on its fall, but since it wasn't really obvious WHEN WoW would fall (it was obvious it was on the way out, but it being NOW was the question mark), none may be being made right now in a great place to release soonish and actually compete for that market.
For example, there are a lot of PvP focused ones on the way that are supposed to "save MMOs", but PvP is only one aspect of MMOs. Ashes of Creation I'm excited for, but it strikes me a lot like Eve. I love Eve, but it's not everyone's cup of tea having to watch over your shoulder when you to out to mine because you could be ganked, and when you finish mining and are transporting your ore to a Starbase/Station/Outpost (in AoC, a town/city) and your convoy can be attacked and destroyed raided. That's not for everyone - and I'd wager it's not FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE. Even with WoW being a more PvP focused game, its greatest strength is consistently in its raids, which are good to this day and are one of the few things almost always praised about the game, and I'm not sure AoC or New World is going to scratch that itch given their greater focus on the PvP world aspect.
So in theory, WoW's fall could open the doors for a lot of innovative new MMOs to try and figure out what exactly players WANT...
...but remember, "inertia" is a thing in MMOs. If you're already playing one or know friends who are, you're more likely to join and play that one. So FFXIV is already in a place where it's attracting lots of WoW refugees to it as a new home. Meaning a new MMO after that has to figure out now just how to appeal to them and also to be good, but it must also figure out how to be appealing ENOUGH it overcomes their inertia to just stay with FFXIV.
@@sayg2240 a private server of an old game isn't a new game...
@@SubduedRadical no world buffs, that change alot
I had been playing WoW for 16 years and just unsubbed for the first time (about a week before the Patch 9.1 release date announcement). I have no regrets.
Good for you, here take your shinny star.
This means you got the 10 year statue right?
So you still believed in them after WoD, BfA Blitzchung, Diablo Immortal and news about every original developer leaving the company?
Dont make hasty decision lmao
Darrowshire private server. No cash shops, no donations, bot detection, no layers, 6k+ pop, vanilla. F R E S H. Launches July 30.
@@sayg2240 do you actually want to play classic wow AGAIN, though? I get that fresh servers are exciting and all but... damn dude...
Thanks for this video, Took a 2 or 3 year had to tend to real life hiatus, came back to my classic character dumped on a mostly hispanic Wotlk server where I’m almost the only character in the leveling area… on to try to find another video on where to go from here.
5:29 You *PAY* to *WIN* the game! You don't pay to just play..... (Herm Edwards voice)
I simply wish that Blizzard knows what they're losing...
I think the people who had passion then or even now. Do know that so they are even more sad,bitter,mad about what Is going on now and has been for years.
@@AustinParkerKillulotz14 the ppl with wow passion have long, LONG left Blizzard, long before the Activision days
They know, they just don't care
Losing from what man :V All they see in their mind is the sweet sweet money from the players. If they can get them, do they even care about being competitive? They even believe that they are winning, according to the profit meter :V
@@hazardeur I disagree. Those with passion hang on for as long as they can. I quit in the middle of WoD and never made it back. On the other hand, my son _still_ plays the game with friends. I don't get it because they lost me when their lack of scruples were left hanging out when they banned the pro player from Hong Kong. Somebody cut those jewels off and they had no balls left to face China with. And I won't be back even for D4. Nothing they do or can do will get me to return as a customer now. I knew a day like this was coming the moment I found out about the stupid merger with Actiblind.
Screw Blizzard for doing this. Watching MSS and Preach struggle through their GOODBYE videos is something that was 100% unnecessary and 100% their fault.
Man i loved them and love their idea's of wow it saddens me to see my favorites are going down truly end of an era
Maybe some people blame you for the whole thing!!!!!!!
“All we did in WoD was talk politics and run circles in our garrisons”
Lmaoooooo yeaaaaaappppp, can confirm
I quit playing back in 2014, played for 10 minutes in 2016 when they tried to tempt me back with 1 free level 100 upgrade, 7 days free gametime and a free upgrade to warlords.
Looked at my old character, did a daily fishing quest and logged off/cancelled.
Man. I don't even play wow, but I've gotten into asmongold and the decline of wow videos over the past few weeks and my god.... what an entertaining ride this has been lol. Especially the lawsuit DLC
Lmao I’ve been doing the same thing
Same. I don't play wow and i hate it already. Pog
Same never played wow but I like get it as a old school blizzard player I.e. wc3 sc2 diablos
Lol true dude
WoW was a game I've always kinda wanted to try, but never did because I wasn't sure if I'd enjoy playing an mmo. Kinda glad I never gave it a shot considering how awful the company behind is and how unfun my friends told me it was.
There never was a WoW killer.
It’s killing itself… and it’s dying very very quickly.
Not that quickly. It has been dying for a very long time, it was an illness that destroyed it from yhe inside, but from the outside it all seemed fine, until it wasnt. When it got outside the rest of it was already putrid
FF14 might not have killed WoW alone but it’s popularity was a mortal blow to the game
Darrowshire private server. No cash shops, no donations, bot detection, no layers, 6k+ pop, vanilla. F R E S H. Launches July 30.
Yeah WoW has had cancer for a while now, and it has been progressively getting worse every year lol. Its just about dead now. I have played both WoW and FF14 quite a bit, and I will say FF14 is just the better game now in many ways really. It is alot more modern feeling too. WoW is old and outdated.
OK dude people have been commenting this exact thing for weeks now on wow videos, you can stop copy pasting
Madseason is a god. I hope he still makes some kind of videos, because his monotone voice is freaking awesome.
Calling a CZcamsr/streamer a god huh lol
I think his voice is the worst part of his videos.
He sounds uninterested and depressed
@@celphalonred1999 About as meaningless as saying there's a real one
Zzzz
@@MyEpicAnime God is real , begone meaningless demon.
We will miss you World of Warcraft. Rest in peace my friend.
I really felt the last 3 minutes of the MadSeasonShow video.
Blizzard Executive: hehe *twirls mustache* I played everquest and finally after all this time I've finally done it.
"you cant have my stuff" = He'll be back in a month after his anger fades
A whole era i missed out on because i couldnt grind up to 20 on my first tauren all those years ago when i was a kid. My brother was always a huge fan of the game, but ive no idea what his thoughts have been on the "evolution" of the game throughout the years as a wide age gap and living situations that evolved over time kinda hurt chances at communication. A lot of people ive watched throughout the years have had the experience of being a part of the warcraft world, i hear about "nostalgia andys" a lot but tbh, during those years of the wow expansions coming out, life then was great for me, it really was a simpler time in my life.
MadSeason is a hard one to see go.
You would also be surprised to hear how many people think it's exclusive Ion who is trashing the game too.
it's been over a day and i am still wrapping my head that someone so hardcore would leave
@@Joeyfield0 I dont know man.. I think its a mix of everything recently, plus no new thinking in WoW for a long time. Everyone I know quit the game, including myself now too, and I've played since late vanilla :\
The greatest downfall in gaming history. An outdated game supported for years by delusional players only to now be hit by the gruesome reality. God rest their souls.
Hopeful, not delusional.
@@jonathonrobinson6081 as a wow player I say its definitely delusional
Probably the most illogical comment I've read all year about wow.
@@jonathonrobinson6081 being hopeful in the face of obvious demise is being delusional
@@hmp01 Probably both: Wanting to hope it can change, but delusional that it will given the company and all that showing they never will.
It's not 100% delusional because it IS possible - FFXIV did it - but it's not probable for Bliz at this point, sadly.
I have seen a lot of videos about people quitting WoW, but Mad's video genuinely got me teary-eyed. Mostly because those who quit the game feel the same, yet the so-called company that "cares" about us, so easily discarded us in favour of the few who would pay an extra 5$.
Take care everybody.
That Chuckie part had me cracking up for awhile 3:17
The last 3 minutes are one of the best endings i ever saw in the wow video. Verry touching, one-word Epic.
Man I was tearing up a little by the end... The good old days are far gone..that nostalgic feeling man..
Farewell old warrior, time to put that helmet down and rest.
helmet down, hammer down, time to rest, time to sleep forever.
LOL
I finally started leveling my lvl 43 toon in Classic after TBC announcement, quit at 55 after heard about the boost.
Dude... This hit me right in the heart. I for real hope WoW gets fixed someday, however that has to happen... Gg madseason
Its like playing your fav game you played every day as a kid then one day your friend shows you the cheat codes and you got crazy for a couple days getting all the gear clearing all the levels all the gold then after a few days all the challenge has gone, the game no longer has the same appeal and you move on to the next.
good description
So don't use the codes...
@@outdoorsnevada4138 The problem is that you can play a single player game with or without the cheat codes, it's up to you and it only affects your experience. In a multiplayer environment if one or more uses those cheat codes it affects everyone's experience and not using them puts you at a clear disadvantage over the rest, so the existence and use of them gives you incentive to use them, as they've become so widespread that not doing so has turned it into handicapping yourself. Some people don't mind, but others do, and the temptation of skipping some stuff to have an edge over the rest of the people is always there.
I like to think that he's finally got his dream job, and maybe a girlfriend, so he decided it was a good time to cut his losses and move on.
Maybe he got fed up with sitting alone in his office all day and really wanted to do a more normal career... heck maybe he even wanted to go work outdoors as a landscaper for all we know to improve his health and shape.
@@vadeka Because every landscaper I know is a paragon of health and fitness, right *rolls eyes*
you're ignorant, ad revenue is so much more than you think
All these creators leavin right when Fresh is coming, makes room for new creators to shine
I love his choice of FF music for the background.
"What can't you buy with Real Money? Mount drops I guess? " - Asmongold
Sadly, you can just buy tokens and buy mounts OR containers from the BMAH. I watch people do it all the time. They just spend money and get the rarest .1%-1% mounts. Nothing like watching a youtuber get all my rare mounts in a matter of months just by swiping, that took me 15 years of constant grinding to get. I feel like shit for spending so much time grinding mounts...just to see others buy all the mounts in an auction house.
Can you really get ANY mount from the BMAH? Thought it was only certain special ones
@@vadeka It’s not every mount, no.
You either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain. Harvey Dent - 2008
That music at the end... hits yah. Idk madseason at all and I can feel the sadness
It’s sad looking back that Mad Season quit right before one of World of Warcraft’s best expansions