M&P 57 & Ruger LC 5.7 x 28: Defensive Handloads testing 2/4/24
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- čas přidán 5. 09. 2024
- 0:00 - intro
0:19 - M&P Raptor 30
0:41 - M&P Shock Hmr 33
1:24 - M&P REX 37
1:57 - M&P SBK 40
2:44 - LC Shock Hmr 330
3:26 - LC Raptor (w/o) 40
3:57 - LC Raptor (tip) 40
4:30 - summary
You are doing some good work. Thanks again.
YW.
I'm bringing the Lehigh Chaos back into the mix and going to have 4 of those loaded at the top, followed by the 4 I shot here.
I've come to believe those 4--5 petals going 6-9" are best chance to end a threat. Not necessarily in terms of lethality, but in terms of wounding causing a change in behavior.
I know almost everyone worships at the alter of penetration, and for hunting and the least amount of tracking and rapid / ethical kill it's important. But for defense, I think having all of the mass travelling through the same wound is wasteful.
4 or 5x 9" slicey wounds vs 1x 13" wound?
Maybe my mind could change again, but does that not make sense?
@@ShastaBeanMakes perfect sense to me. Well done.
good stuff, did you have to lube the cases for feeding? nice range music too
No. There's lacquer on the cases that doesn't get taken off (much) if you don't tumble them, but instead just soak in a water mix w/Simple Green (1 to 4).
Looks like maybe 6.2 grains is a good spot for the 30-33 grain bullets. Do you think the debris in the firing pin is the reason for the light primer strikes? As always great testing. These are fantastic energies and certainly beat a lot of 9mm energy!!
Looking that way. Could turn out to be 6.1 for 33gr, even. TBD. Probably will do a few Hammers at both charges. Very much wanted 2200 fps out of that bullet. Sad.
Was thinking that 350-375 ft# was plenty doable, but apparently not (by me).
Will be targeting whatever charge comes to the 325 - 340 # range from here on out.
Might have to de-lacquer the M&P.
& yes I have no doubt it was debris from pierced primer causing the LPSs. Factory loads were failing, too - until I did a dry fire.
@@ShastaBean that’s kind of what I was seeing on my cutting edge bullets. I haven’t gotten back to it but I did not see popped primers at 6.2.
@@triggerbarPhDdid you do some shooting of 6.2 that I am forgetting or missing/didn't see? I thought you did 6.1 on "ratty" and the brass flew into a "swamp" so not able to see primers?
@@ShastaBean no I had 6.2 in there too. I’ll shoot it to you on text.
@@ShastaBean as always you are right. I thought for sure I had some 6.2. Okay well now I want to try 6.2. Dang it.
where to purchase this ammo please give link in the description or leave it in comments please
they're handloads
if you make more can i purchase through you@@ShastaBean
What do you recommend for the best 5.7 load i can buy for defensive use? Reliability and accuracy bring concerns. Thank you for your work.
Tough question!
I'm going to work on a Short that has the different rounds I'm putting in the magazine for my carry. It's 4 handloads + 3 Factory...being a few Vanguard 36 gr GPM + a few 34 gr Black Fang + the older 2020 version of 40 gr Speer GD.
I haven't bought from Vanguard recently, but they did have consistency issues (vel & poi) from my 1st, 2nd & 3rd LOTs. It seems they got it sorted out by my 3rd LOT, so those are the ones I'll have included. I'd certainly keep trying them if I didn't handload.
Three of my carry handloads are same load as R&R; (R37.X) & (IS130D-v3), & (IS132D) = (37 gr Maker REX) & (30 gr Cutting Edge Raptor) & (32 gr Lehigh Controlled Chaos). R&R has had some issues with light-primer-strikes. But I believe if a person buys and tests, they should know pretty quickly if they are affected, or not. If you experience it, I am pretty sure they'll replace them.
If I couldn't load my own, I'd give them a try. They also have a 37 gr fracturing round (now tipped) that I haven't tried, but waiting forever for Maker to show available.
If I could only pick one...it would probably be the R&R: IS130D-v3 or the Vanguard 36 gr GPM - if you don't care about having that velocity above 2250 fps.