Aftermath of fatal Bradley International Airport B-17 plane crash

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  • čas přidán 7. 09. 2024
  • B-Roll of NTSB investigators at Bradley International Airport in Connecticut surveying the scene of a B-17 that crashed on 10/2/19.
    Video: NTSB

Komentáře • 660

  • @johnmorello1164
    @johnmorello1164 Před 5 lety +141

    i have watched 909 fly over my house many times. she will be missed. condolences to all.....

    • @FLJuJitsu
      @FLJuJitsu Před 4 lety

      I've flown on 'Witchcraft' and had always wanted to go back and fly 909. Sad.

    • @EnterpriseXI
      @EnterpriseXI Před 4 lety

      She might come back. Just like Liberty Bell. I hope

    • @FLJuJitsu
      @FLJuJitsu Před 4 lety +1

      Yeah. No. That airframe is a complete loss.

    • @samanthamason9326
      @samanthamason9326 Před 3 lety

      You might see b-17g texas raider fly over

  • @alexandermartincausey7333
    @alexandermartincausey7333 Před 4 lety +36

    The fact that there were 6 survivors is pretty amazing.

    • @FLJuJitsu
      @FLJuJitsu Před 4 lety +7

      At least in part because there as a National Guard Chief on the aircraft who helped pull people out even though he had a broken arm and collar bone.

    • @tommypetraglia4688
      @tommypetraglia4688 Před 4 lety +1

      @@FLJuJitsu
      I believe reports said he brought with him fire proof gloves and was able to reach through the flames to open the hatch

  • @joshuacourville2903
    @joshuacourville2903 Před 4 lety +90

    Took a flight in her a few years ago...magnificent aircraft in the air...I grew up on flight...a line of pilots in my family...hate so much to hear of this...my prayers and thoughts are with the families and victims of the crash

    • @sparkymarlin
      @sparkymarlin Před rokem

      Wow u flew in her I got to be in her also my great grandpa flew her in ww2

  • @johnfranklin1955
    @johnfranklin1955 Před 4 lety +136

    It’s sickening seeing that old plane in pieces on the ground and knowing the loss of life that took place in a fire.

    • @lakewoodsteve5028
      @lakewoodsteve5028 Před 4 lety +3

      What about the 2 service trucks & the poor glycol tank. "Oh the Humanity's" ?

    • @Kobaneko2005
      @Kobaneko2005 Před 4 lety +2

      What's worse is some of those people PAID for that flight.

    • @windshearahead7012
      @windshearahead7012 Před 4 lety

      Атомный Танк paid for their death..wow

    • @cbl3839
      @cbl3839 Před 4 lety

      @@Kobaneko2005 Not to be "that guy," but everyone on that flight singed the waiver saying that they understood and accepted the "risk."
      I've singed the waiver, and I'd do it again.

    • @Kobaneko2005
      @Kobaneko2005 Před 4 lety

      @@cbl3839 lol I wasn't saying it wasn't their fault. I'm just saying... "Isn't it Ironic" or some such.

  • @matthewrosengren2813
    @matthewrosengren2813 Před 4 lety +256

    It’s such a shame that she’s gone. My sincerest condolences to the families of the victims. The Collings Foundation would visit the small airfield near my house every other year and I always dreamed of going for a ride in one of them. Im not sure if this is true, but I read somewhere that the 9-0-9’s pilot, Mr. Mac MacCauly was the highest ranking B-17 pilot in regards to flying time. At least he died doing what he enjoyed. R.I.P.😔

    • @matthewmajcher7180
      @matthewmajcher7180 Před 4 lety +21

      It is such a dear shame, I remember seeing Ernest "Mac" McCauley every year at the airport. I'm sure he was the most experienced, having 7300 logged flight hours. It's such a shame that this had to happen.

    • @nathanpitts5319
      @nathanpitts5319 Před 4 lety +16

      @@matthewmajcher7180 Jennifer Hollingsley, of the NTSB said in the press conference the other day that he was the highest time B-17 pilot in the United States. That is an incredible amount of time to log in one aircraft. Believe he had 21 years of flying "Nine O Nine". I saw it in Bangor, ME, in about 2006 and he was flying it then and gave a little speech once the crew had climbed down out of the aircraft. Seemed like a truly great guy to be in that spot, and you could tell he just loved what he was doing. He would be the first guy to say "keep em flying", even after this!

    • @dukecraig2402
      @dukecraig2402 Před 4 lety +25

      @@nathanpitts5319
      His flying time in a B17 was highest not just in the US but in history, this is a tragedy in so many ways I can't even begin to describe it.
      I said the other day that I'll bet the FAA is going to put an end to passengers on these old war birds because some politican is going to propose a bill outlawing it to make a hero out of himself, and don't you know just today I saw an article online about some politican from Connecticut talking about whether it should be allowed along with a lawyer that specializes in aircraft mishaps both spouting off about it, lawyers, scum of the earth, probably hoping some grieving family members of someone killed on the plane would read the article and get a hold of him, like I said, tragic in more ways then I know how to describe.

    • @nathanpitts5319
      @nathanpitts5319 Před 4 lety +11

      @@dukecraig2402 Agree with all you say, he was indeed the most experienced B-17 pilot in the world. Points about lawyers are well made. Bar Harbor Airlines had a crash near my home about 30 yrs ago, it was a small commercial twin and before it was over the manufacturer was blamed for the entire thing despite the fact the aircraft had been flying for years.......and it was a very rainy and foggy night, and the pilot and passengers had all been at a party in Bangor and were headed home. Use your imagination on all of that.
      This was a very dangerous point in the flight of "Nine O Nine" or any aircraft at this point. Aircraft is in climb out, at a few hundred feet altitude, and only a few knots above stall speed. The crew has neither altitude nor airspeed to spare. An engine out at 10,000 ft gives the crew minutes to deal with the issue and the nose can always be dropped to gain some speed if needed. When it is a close to the ground, and stall speed, as this was the crew had only a very very short time to respond to the issues.
      I don't know what happened here but feel sure the NTSB will figure it out. I have read numerous investigation reports on their database and the investigations are as thorough as can be. I do know of at least two 4-engined propeller airliners that were lost in th 1950's, both of them due to drag from "# 4" propeller, at low altitude and low airspeed. Not saying that happened here, just a possiblity. My guess will be that whatever happened was beyond the ability of ANY crew to handle, especially in such a vulnerable spot.
      The loss of both life, and a very special piece of flying history are beyond tragic. It is sad to think that the FAA will probably stop passengers on these aircraft and that would be a shame. Was at an airshow in Bangor, ME in 2006 or so. A P-51 fighter plane landed and taxied up to the ramp. Out of it stepped a "not very young" Chuck Yeager. He was pretty elderly himself at that point too! It was just a delight to see such a wonderful craft and such a famous pilot. We must keep them flying somehow! everybody was on that flight of his own free will and well knew the risk, no flight guarantees anybody's safety....and never will.

    • @JW...-oj5iw
      @JW...-oj5iw Před 4 lety +16

      Everyone dies. Life begins. Life ends. What you do in the middle is more important than either end. Mac did what he loved for decades. He died while involved in what was his favorite activity. If you die in the act of doing something you love, you win.

  • @chrisfreter3629
    @chrisfreter3629 Před 4 lety +54

    R.I.P. Nine-O-Nine and her crew. Our thoughts and prayers to the families of the crew and Collings Foundation.

  • @RobertBrown-vg1fo
    @RobertBrown-vg1fo Před 5 lety +69

    909 flew over my shop daily a few months back in Orange,Ca. have a few great pics of her overhead.....

    • @craigpennington1251
      @craigpennington1251 Před 4 lety +2

      You need to post those pictures sometime.

    • @jimmydcap
      @jimmydcap Před 4 lety

      I live in Nashua NH. Seen her many times.

    • @lukerope1906
      @lukerope1906 Před 4 lety +1

      I just walked through Nine-o-Nine this summer!

    • @cbl3839
      @cbl3839 Před 4 lety +2

      Flew over my work a few months back. Couldn't resist making the 45 minute drive to Boeing field to say howdy to Mac, the crew and some of my favorite birds.
      Give anything to be able to fly with Mac and 909 again.
      Fair sky's and tailwinds my friends...

  • @nathanpitts5319
    @nathanpitts5319 Před 5 lety +24

    Watched "Nine O Nine" and the Collings B-24 fly into and out of Bangor, ME around 2006 or so. Boarded and took the walk through tour of both aircraft. Several WWll vets who had flown in similar aircraft were there too and the pleasure of seeing these gentlemen experience just a slight bit of their youth again was simply moving. Everyone associated with Collings has spoken of these visits by these old vets. This was a priceless piece of history that was lost. The loss of life a tragedy. Yet every single victim loved this aircraft and the idea of keeping history flying. We must keep on supporting these kinds of efforts.

    • @tidentenn
      @tidentenn Před 5 lety +5

      Great post!

    • @JeffGR4
      @JeffGR4 Před 5 lety +4

      The _Nine 0 Nine_ is featured on Jay Leno's Garage CZcams channel about the Boeing B-17 Flying Fortress.

    • @digitalstyx_est.2018
      @digitalstyx_est.2018 Před 4 lety +4

      Excellent post. The right points well-made.

    • @rebelyank6361
      @rebelyank6361 Před 4 lety +7

      909 comes to Laconia N.H. airport every year. A couple weeks ago I finally took the day off to visit. As I was standing under her #3 engine 2 gentlemen came up, mistaking me for crew and began telling of their dad flying B17s in WW2 then another elderly couple came over. He flew Lancasters in WW2. I was in awe of the stories these men told. Shortly after I left, while at the store down the street I heard her roar overhead taking those men on a flight. Such a tragic loss in both human life and valued history.

    • @ronfullerton3162
      @ronfullerton3162 Před 4 lety +1

      @@rebelyank6361 Back thirty some years ago I lived in southeast Iowa and would go to the Confederate Air Force flying in at Milian, Illinois. The men that flew those old warbirds were young enough yet to come to those things yet, and what a privilege to hear their stories. That along was worth the price of admission.

  • @olentangy74
    @olentangy74 Před 5 lety +56

    A terrible tragedy. The sad thing is that several of the passengers were riding the fortress as a bucket list event.
    How ironic that the very activity they were taking part in is what ended their lives.

    • @sirboomsalot4902
      @sirboomsalot4902 Před 4 lety +2

      That’s how many people die. Same if someone died falling down the Grand Canyon checking off their bucket list

    • @joepayne6147
      @joepayne6147 Před 4 lety +4

      Kicked the bucket in attempt to check something off the bucket list.

    • @Infidel7153
      @Infidel7153 Před 4 lety

      Well lets hope it was the last thing on the list then !

    • @davecrupel2817
      @davecrupel2817 Před 4 lety

      That's life. :/

    • @misham6547
      @misham6547 Před 3 lety

      @@sirboomsalot4902 those are very different things, it's pretty much your own fault if you fall down the grand canyon, this accident was caused by the incompetence of the Collins Foundation

  • @Joe-uo9wv
    @Joe-uo9wv Před 4 lety +18

    Totally heartbreaking to all, especially the family's and all pilots. A piece of us also perished that day.

  • @mach1gtx150
    @mach1gtx150 Před 5 lety +23

    My sincerest condolences to the flight crew and passengers who perished and were injured that day. I was fortunate enough to see the 9o9, the Liberator and the P-51 here in Kearney, NE this summer 2019. Very sad day.

    • @b3j8
      @b3j8 Před 4 lety

      Same here. It flew over our house several times when it visited Fort Wayne IN. So very sad.

    • @ronfullerton3162
      @ronfullerton3162 Před 4 lety

      I road my motorcycle up to Kearney to see the planes when they were there. If put in museums, we here in the Midwest would never get to see them. Plus the experience to see and hear them flying is an experience that no film will reproduce. Plus museums do not allow the "hands on" that the wonderful aviation history groups do. All I can do is say thank you to all of those great organizations such as the Collings Foundation, Confederate Air Force, and all the rest that have given us such grand insights of aviation history.

    • @663rainmaker
      @663rainmaker Před 4 lety

      Ron Fullerton I have seen some incredible things.... and Aviation... Planes trains and automobiles... add a few speed boats to the list... it’s what mechanics do....
      Kearny Neb... awesome place! N Platte is close to my old home

    • @ronfullerton3162
      @ronfullerton3162 Před 4 lety

      @@663rainmaker Sort of a p.s., being from NP you got to see those wonderful compound steam locos of Union Pacific. Another amazing machine. And the sound of those old locos pulling under load is just as sweet music as the motors on the warbirds. If we could just get those techies away from there screens for a moment, but alas, it took more than a keystroke to run those babies.

    • @mach1gtx150
      @mach1gtx150 Před 4 lety

      @@ronfullerton3162 I know! It's been thrilling to see these old warbirds. I got to fly in the Sentimental Journey in the Bombardiers position when it was here years ago. I have always particularly loved the B-17 ever since I was around ten years old and built all of the American and German WWII planes. My best friend, an Engineer I used to work with, was a radar operator on one and he flew over 30 missions. I think I really used to be in one in my former lifetime. I had this urge to build all of these planes when I was young (middle '60's) for some reason, yet I knew nothing about them.

  • @BDNeon
    @BDNeon Před 4 lety +8

    This is a double gut-punch. The loss of life, and the loss of history. There will soon come a day where the only way future generations will see what a B-17 was like in flight is through footage or virtual reality. Those brave souls who lost their lives knew that reading history isn't the same as riding in history.

    • @texanforeverthompson3645
      @texanforeverthompson3645 Před 4 lety +2

      Well said

    • @danielc3124
      @danielc3124 Před 4 lety +1

      You never know. That day may come. Or it may not if people start building replica aircraft from scratch. It's been done already.

  • @thomascolones1937
    @thomascolones1937 Před 4 lety +12

    Saw her many times and I send my prayers for all concerned at this time 1 A great loss for so many ! TC

  • @brandonthomas303
    @brandonthomas303 Před 4 lety +17

    God bless all the people who lost their lives and the ones who survived! And may the Nine O Nine rest in piece as well. So sad all around. I'm so sorry for the families who lost their loved ones! May they find peace in their hearts!

  • @captainemeritus5927
    @captainemeritus5927 Před 4 lety +8

    As bad as it gets.
    Deepest Sympathy and heartfelt
    condolences to all concerned.

  • @johnmorello1164
    @johnmorello1164 Před 5 lety +75

    a well maintained aircraft. i am not a comfortable passenger but i have flown in Collings aircraft three times and would not hesitate to do so again. a heartbreaking tragedy.

  • @raulduke6105
    @raulduke6105 Před 4 lety +2

    I’m loath to write this as a vet and son of a lifer, but two of my uncles flew 17’s during the war and spoke often how demanding it was to fly needing constant attention. They were in their 20’s. No one in their 70’s should be flying 4 engine bombers!

    • @charlieproctor6533
      @charlieproctor6533 Před 4 lety +2

      As a pilot my self. you are correct IAM 70 now and stopped flying when I turned 55. not safe for older folks to fly. too much fast thinking and fast decision making goes into flying.

  • @thomasarledge1933
    @thomasarledge1933 Před 4 lety +7

    I flew on the Collins B-17 and B-14. they are a class act..... sorry for the loss........

  • @Allan62T
    @Allan62T Před 4 lety +19

    Oh the 17. She was made by the great generation that's barely here. With my grand father, slowly goes a past we can only read about.
    May the rest of these hall of famers last another hundred years I pray so!......
    Anticipation building, excitement so thick!
    An endeavor to peek at Heaven, on a magically flown brick!...
    Up There!
    By Terry Allan!!!.........

  • @Dark_Vader888
    @Dark_Vader888 Před 4 lety +4

    The Captain was probably one of the most experienced B-17 pilots in the world, if he couldn’t save it no one could. God bless and RIP. Bloody heartbroken!!

    • @feetgoaroundfullflapsC
      @feetgoaroundfullflapsC Před 4 lety

      It is not experience flying it normally that counts. It is experience doing that exact maneuver that counts. Flying normally easy flights dont make good pilots. Doing take off emergencies often is what counts..

    • @diffened
      @diffened Před 10 měsíci

      With the benefit of commenting 4 years later, Mac, the pilot, screwed up in just about every way possible, and he should have not flown that plane that day because it was not in condition to fly.

  • @stealth156
    @stealth156 Před 4 lety +2

    My father took me to airshows since i was 5 years old. I always enjoyed watching the old war birds fly and speaking to veterans. It is unfortunate that we lost this war bird and the individuals who give us the opportunity to see these incredible machines fly again. May they rest in peace.

  • @jayreiter268
    @jayreiter268 Před 4 lety +33

    The prop on the engine in the wall looks feathered

    • @hdrenginedevelopment7507
      @hdrenginedevelopment7507 Před 4 lety +5

      Jay Reiter it also definitely was not spinning when impacted. The other engine seen on top of the tank had bent propeller blades, but they do not look what I would expect propeller blades to look like when impacting something at full power. They must have lost more than one engine.

    • @chrisclark5204
      @chrisclark5204 Před 4 lety +1

      @@hdrenginedevelopment7507 could have lost more than one engine or the other engines lacked power. Possibly the pilot throttled back the other engines to help maintain control. It's hard to say.

    • @jayreiter268
      @jayreiter268 Před 4 lety +1

      HDR I did not see the other engine. The props will usually bend forward if under power and aft if not.

    • @jayreiter268
      @jayreiter268 Před 4 lety

      The props I personally have seen bent have struck the ground not an opposing object.

    • @jayreiter268
      @jayreiter268 Před 4 lety +1

      I see that engine. The two blades that I can see are both bent aft. It appears the engine was turning but not pulling power. The team has made a record of all that. A great loss to bad there was not the last hundred feet of altitude.

  • @joed9491
    @joed9491 Před 4 lety +6

    Sen. Blumenthal - see, the NTSB is investigating this crash and will get to the bottom of what caused it. They were probably even on scene before the fires were completely extinguished so there was really no need for you to make that pandering to your base statement calling on them to respond and find the cause!

    • @kimmer6
      @kimmer6 Před 4 lety +6

      I wanted to punch that loser in the face when I heard him talking about grounding warbirds.

    • @methree8507
      @methree8507 Před 4 lety +5

      Joe D Blumenthal as always is a blooming idiot. What a loser.

  • @SuperSomeone1984
    @SuperSomeone1984 Před 4 lety +3

    Such a shame. For the loss of life but also as well for a piece of history that will not be enjoyed for many generations to come. You cant put a price tag on history. I was very fortunate to tour this plane as well as the B-29 FiFi which my grandfather was able to go into the tail gunners position for the first time since flying in the Korean War. The plane always had a special place in my memories not just for being such a beautiful and historic aircraft. But also, for allowing my grandfather and I a few special moments.

  • @nceiselt
    @nceiselt Před 4 lety

    My father was a radio man on a similar plane, the Johnny Reb back in WWII and was shot down on his 9th mission and taken prisoner for 9 months before the Germans decided they had lost the war and, with no plan for the outcome, gathered the POWs for an 800KM march called the Shoe Leather Express. It is an amazing, untold story. Many years later I took my son (around 8 -9 yrs old) to the Collings Foundation Show at Boeing Field in Seattle over Memorial Day weekend . We both crawled around inside this same ship and, after taking him home, I came back and went for a flight in her. Crawled all over the craft, sat in the radio man's position, through the bomb bay up to the pilot's area and into the nose gunner's seat, then and back into the waist gunner's area where we 7 passengers sat , several of us dumbfounded at the majesty of the plane and others caught up, like me in some video reel of what it must have been like to fly in a formation in those years of the war. I was absolutely shattered to find out the ship I'd ridden on went down.

    • @Jewels-rp9js
      @Jewels-rp9js Před 4 lety

      Ola!!
      My dad's uncle was a tail Gunner on a B-17. He too was shotdown and became a pow. He somehow lured the prison mascot (feline) into the barracks. That was thee finest meal in his entire life!! Thank God for guys like your dad and
      My uncle!! Cheers!! (Dad's uncle).
      JD/82ND

  • @pickenit
    @pickenit Před 4 lety +1

    I hope that the FAA does not ground vintage planes due to this unfortunate accident. The public deserves to have an opportunity to experience these planes as they were. There are so many expert pilots flying these planes with zero incidents in their careers.

  • @jmstowe
    @jmstowe Před 4 lety +3

    My father is a retired FE who flew and fixed these kind of engines for many years, he is of the opinion that it was fuel contamination. He had that happen to him once in a DC7. The aircraft behaved the same way but they were able to get it on the ground

  • @GJones462-2W1
    @GJones462-2W1 Před 4 lety +9

    How many crew members perished, and how many passengers onboard died? When I flew on Aluminum Overcast, there were a total of 10 of us onboard. Four crew, and six paying passengers. Rest in peace to them.

    • @cgee2224
      @cgee2224 Před 4 lety +2

      7 perished out of 13 souls aboard. Standard operation is 10 pax, 3 crew.

    • @johnosbourn4312
      @johnosbourn4312 Před 4 lety

      Two crew, and thirteen passengers, fifteen souls combined, of which seven of them died.

    • @cgee2224
      @cgee2224 Před 4 lety +2

      @@johnosbourn4312 there were only 13 on board. That's what I meant to write. The 2 pilots unfortunately perished as well as 4 passengers. And 1 person on the ground who wasn't onboard. Have more succumbed to their injuries recently?

  • @SACWarrior70s
    @SACWarrior70s Před 4 lety +12

    If there is no audio...please state the fact to let them know, and it's a B-Roll in [Abv title].

  • @honorkemp
    @honorkemp Před 4 lety +7

    Its seems to me that the pilot did all he could to try to land the b17 and almost managed to land it safely

  • @vintageeveryday2020
    @vintageeveryday2020 Před 4 lety

    A tragic loss for all. I helped paint a B-17 once at Chino Planes Of Fame (CA). You get a real grasp of how large they are when you're preping one for spraying.

  • @GH-oi2jf
    @GH-oi2jf Před 4 lety +6

    The FAA just pulled their license to carry paying passengers.

  • @donbradley250
    @donbradley250 Před 4 lety +3

    What a sad accident. Hopefully, they will find what happened to bring the family of the victim's peace. RIP.

  • @SIONARAFLORIDA
    @SIONARAFLORIDA Před 4 lety +7

    aw man that sucks, a piece of history gone like that, and i am sure from the looks of it- the poor crew didnt make it. what happened? how did a bird like this crash so badly like it did? i am going to pay attention to this to learn more. i never heard about it in any news.

  • @Mike44460
    @Mike44460 Před 4 lety +12

    Useful machine repairman's trick, when trying to read a tag on a motor or pump that is in a location that makes it hard to read, like the tag on the motor at 1:44, use you smart phone and take a picture. For one you can then zoom in on the picture to read the tag a whole lot easier and two, in addition you have a picture of the tag as well. And this is why we are called "skilled trades".

    • @pappabob29
      @pappabob29 Před 4 lety +2

      I think I hear an Electrician speaking !! Had many a occurence where trying to read the data plate on a electric motor, installed on some piece of equipment, was impossible to read so mirrors were typically used to backwards read the data. This was, of course, long before the smart phone was even a concept.

  • @sirboomsalot4902
    @sirboomsalot4902 Před 4 lety +5

    0:33 It’s a weird feeling when you realize you were standing in that dorsal turret just a few weeks ago

  • @CaptKeo
    @CaptKeo Před 4 lety +12

    I live approx a mile + from runway 8 in Laconia NH.A couple weeks ago they flew between 800 and a 1000 feet above the treetops over the house when they were landing. For such a big plane it would sneak up on us then as it came over the house would shake and the noise was incredible. Very exciting. As usual I went over to take pictures and had a chance to small talk with the pilot. The people that took that flight over the big lake were just getting off and where thrilled. I would bet that was the main topic for them for quite a few days. It was a sad event when the news broke in telling about he crash.

  • @ustinman8446
    @ustinman8446 Před 4 lety +3

    I can't believe no video is out there of this incident!

  • @patrickrobinson-mh5jw
    @patrickrobinson-mh5jw Před 4 lety +2

    Really sad to see and hear about this, condolences to the crew and to their families and friends from the UK

  • @tuxitalk4-tuxipolitixpage772

    Rest In Peace.......

  • @johanvandersandt8904
    @johanvandersandt8904 Před 4 lety +4

    An immense trajedy all round. Condolences to the families.

  • @captaincodebook3200
    @captaincodebook3200 Před 4 lety +4

    1:04 no prop damage so it wasn't turning
    4:05 good thing that's a double walled Flameshield aboveground storage tank

  • @graemewilliams1308
    @graemewilliams1308 Před 4 lety +3

    That black prop dome was # 4. The other three were polished aluminium, prop is feathered.

  • @_lime.
    @_lime. Před 4 lety

    Jesus, it's incredible that even a few people managed to survive. My condolences to the families of the deceased. This was not only a loss of human life but a loss of living history, truly tragic.

  • @PhantomMark
    @PhantomMark Před 4 lety +4

    Thoughts are with the families involved, very sad time, greetings from a fan in the UK :(

  • @jessieblanton9875
    @jessieblanton9875 Před 4 lety +5

    Don't see how the B-17 come up short as many times as they took off and landed

  • @F84Thunderjet
    @F84Thunderjet Před 4 lety +25

    Only one engine out? Must have been some other issue as a B-17 can easily fly and land on three engines.

    • @almarma
      @almarma Před 4 lety

      Hawker Seafury I’ve read that they refueled using the wrong fuel. Engine 4 was the first one to stop, and right before landing engine 3 shut off too, so they lost control of it without time to abort or avoid the crash

    • @zfgo
      @zfgo Před 4 lety +1

      This airplane seemed to be cursed. It had two other accidents after it was restored. One was major in the 90s.

    • @flalawdog9463
      @flalawdog9463 Před 4 lety +2

      Almarma in another video the NTSB said they checked the fuel in the tanks and it was 100 LL. That’s the right fuel I agree with the people that say it had to be more than just the number 4 engine going out.

    • @walkaway6353
      @walkaway6353 Před 4 lety

      @@almarma Losing # 3 and 4 with 1 and 2 producing power would have "yawed" hard right on landing. But I have not seen much yet to guess why he lost it.

    • @almarma
      @almarma Před 4 lety

      @@walkaway6353 Yes, that's what I read somewhere, but I guess all are speculations right now. I suppose the NTSB will need some months to get all the clues and make a report, so we need to wait and see

  • @texanforeverthompson3645
    @texanforeverthompson3645 Před 4 lety +5

    My son and grandson took a ride in this AC two years ago.

  • @michaelsparrow4526
    @michaelsparrow4526 Před 4 lety +10

    This was a massive piece of history. Very sad to see this happen. My father was first Pilot on the B-17’s in World War II

    • @NickAlati
      @NickAlati Před 4 lety +3

      I'm sure you mean that your father flu in a B-17 in World War II. I worked on old 99 back in the day in Mesa Arizona, aircraft was manufactured after the war ended. Not trying to take away from the honor your father served our country oh, I'm just stating there's no way he flew that plane in World War II.

    • @iangoldsworthy2056
      @iangoldsworthy2056 Před 4 lety

      I doubt it very much, The "9 0 9" was transported over to Guam for the Japan war but didn't get any mission time as the war was over.

    • @AugustMeteors
      @AugustMeteors Před 4 lety

      The Collings Foundation plane was done in the paint scheme of the original Nine 0 Nine to honor it. I believe this is not an uncommon practice.

    • @michaelsparrow4526
      @michaelsparrow4526 Před 4 lety

      Nick Alati these planes were made in the 1930’S.. I looked to see when they did start building them. He did fly them then. I have all of his flight papers and the original flight manual to date. Sorry

    • @michaelsparrow4526
      @michaelsparrow4526 Před 4 lety

      Nick Alati I ment the b17 not this particular one... that crashes

  • @GarageNation353
    @GarageNation353 Před 4 lety +3

    So sad to see the loss of life and such a beautiful irreplaceable piece of history.
    It's a very small debris field for such a large plane, would think bits of it were missing at crash scene

    • @dhy5342
      @dhy5342 Před 4 lety

      Irreplacable itself, but Collings does have another b-17.

  • @jagirl966
    @jagirl966 Před 3 lety

    My grandpa toured the B-17 for years. I'm so glad he retired from it 10 years ago. This could have been him.

  • @scottmurphy650
    @scottmurphy650 Před 4 lety +1

    It is indeed sad that 909 was lost, but never lose sight of the fact that something far more precious was also lost...……..the lives of many of those aboard.

  • @ricky4001cs
    @ricky4001cs Před 4 lety +2

    Reports seem to indicate that the Boeing touched down short of the runway on the grass by about a 1000 feet, but then became airborne and veered right, coming down finally on top of, and into structures on the ground. I wish so much they could have settled her in right there in front of the runway. I wonder why she went airborne again, if that is indeed what really happened. hate to see this. Just heartbreaking, in every possible way. Heart broken :(

  • @jtkent28
    @jtkent28 Před 5 lety +22

    Kind of surprised in 2019 there’s no cell phone video of the actual crash?? Unless there is an authorities are withholding it for now?

    • @modmlot
      @modmlot Před 5 lety +18

      jtkent28 Airport security cam captured footage, being held by NTSB at this time.

    • @LasVegas68
      @LasVegas68 Před 4 lety +2

      @@modmlot I was going to say most major airports have cameras there should be video. You know the NTSB is all over that footage.

    • @b3j8
      @b3j8 Před 4 lety

      Several people submitted video/photos to the NTSB.

    • @dhy5342
      @dhy5342 Před 4 lety +3

      @Armando Silvier The aircraft impacts in NYC are available to anyone who has a computer. The crash in PA wasn't filmed because it was in the middle of nowhere. The crash at the pentagon was caught on an outside camera, also available on the internet. You're looking at conditions on 9/11 in today's frame of thought. Today, EVERYTHING is on camera at all times; before 9/11 cameras were nowhere near as ubiquitous as they are today, there was no perceived need for them then. Do a search on CZcams for accident or crime videos before 2001, you will find ZERO because they simply didn't exist.

  • @kc6kkn
    @kc6kkn Před 4 lety

    So sad. My condolences to the families that lost family members. And praying for a speedy recovery for those that were injured in this terrible accident.

  • @TheRantingCabbie
    @TheRantingCabbie Před 5 lety +21

    At this time, we don't know the cause. But they did radio in a call about a problem 5 minutes after take-off. I could only guess they were losing altitude, and given the direction and last bit of remaining altitude, they had no choice but to use any available part of the runway and adjacent surface. Not enough leftover altitude to line up with 06 and had no choice to go across it with what was available. There just wasn't enough. If the glycol tanks and buildings weren't there, then it would have been just a rough ride across the grass.

    • @bvmad8570
      @bvmad8570 Před 4 lety +1

      Didn’t have enough power and altitude to make it to the runway they hit the approach lights just before the runway which sent it off towards the buildings 🙁

    • @dieselyeti
      @dieselyeti Před 4 lety +1

      @3D LAND No.

  • @windwhipped5
    @windwhipped5 Před 4 lety +4

    Flight controller would have seen everything with his binoculars to document the emergency landing. At least I hope he would. It shouldn't be to complicated, just tragic all around..

  • @garywheeler7039
    @garywheeler7039 Před 4 lety +3

    Looks like the buildings held up well and did not contribute to the burning. Sorry for the loss of the historic aircraft and the people involved of course.

  • @johnosbourn4312
    @johnosbourn4312 Před 4 lety +1

    What a terrible sight, and my heart goes out to all of the families affected by this crash, and I do hope that the Collings Foundation resumes their Wings of Freedom Tour, sometime later down the road, following this tragic accident.

  • @gregboyington4896
    @gregboyington4896 Před 5 lety +16

    Flew in that very B-17, loved it and hope to fly in more WW2 war birds, well worth the risk to me.

    • @chrisj197438
      @chrisj197438 Před 5 lety +6

      Greg Boyington
      I flew in the Liberty Belle shortly before it’s crash landing and destruction. I feel the same way.

  • @Theodorej1960
    @Theodorej1960 Před 4 lety

    So very very sad to see this. My heart goes out to those who were killed and injured in this horrible accident.

  • @Mcdaffodilhill
    @Mcdaffodilhill Před 4 lety

    Went for ride on the Nine o Nine prior to knee transplant, getting into the plane was a struggle, but the crew kind and helpful. The next time scheduled to go diagnosed with cancer and getting chemo. Watching it fly over our house in August this year, we decided to go next year for our third ride, now that door is closed forever. For the folks who lost their lives our sincere condolences to all who loved you. To the Collins Foundation, you have lost a real friend, so sorry for you.

  • @mountainrealtordave9387

    I am so saddened and shocked about the crash of the Nine O' Nine. I took my boys up in the 909 back in 2012 and it was such a huge thing for them. One of my best memories with my sons. So very sad.

  • @mshoes2006
    @mshoes2006 Před 4 lety

    This hurt me a lot more because believe it or not I was lucky enough to get the chance to fly in this plane in Wildwood when they have the airshow at the aviation museum. Breaks my heart to see it destroyed like this

  • @Thebuilderofthings1
    @Thebuilderofthings1 Před 4 lety

    Flew on this 6 times along with my SO back in the 90's. She loved flying as much as I have. We have lost something fierce in the 909 and War Bird Bob.

  • @yrn_glucose
    @yrn_glucose Před 4 lety

    I flew on this exact plane with my grandfather 4 years ago. Chilling stuff man

  • @bobcrawford5083
    @bobcrawford5083 Před 4 lety +3

    So sad so many people that died..going up for a chance of a lifetime on a B-17...what it was ..a lifetime..gone...RIP

  • @Coloradocop
    @Coloradocop Před 4 lety

    I flew on Nine-O-Nine two months before this crash. It was a true bucket list experience, and I was saddened to learn that some of the people on my flight perished in this tragic accident just a short time later.

  • @ppipowerclass
    @ppipowerclass Před 4 lety +4

    This just makes me sick :( So sad.

  • @daveluttinen2547
    @daveluttinen2547 Před 4 lety

    I very much appreciate this video. It is important that we see unadulterated an non-opinionated evidence. I think all of us would like to see more aerial views.

  • @irgski
    @irgski Před 4 lety +2

    Surely someone on the ground captured a video of this plane crashing.....

  • @localbod
    @localbod Před 4 lety

    It is shocking how little there is left of such a large aircaft.
    RIP to all those killed.
    A sad situation for all.

    • @robertheinkel6225
      @robertheinkel6225 Před 4 lety +1

      We lost one of our KC-135 Tankers, down in Panama, years ago. Empty weight about 105,000 pounds. They brought it back to the base in the back of two dump trucks. Very little identifiable parts.

  • @rotorheadv8
    @rotorheadv8 Před 4 lety +20

    Something happened more serious than an engine failure.

  • @johnmehaffey9953
    @johnmehaffey9953 Před 4 lety +1

    A terrible tragedy I just love the guys who dedicate their lives to saving these pieces of history for people to remember the sacrifice young men gave to freedom and if you go into the records of air accidents during ww11 you will find that thousands of airmen lost their lives in training and ferrying aircraft so these aircraft have always been susceptible to accidents as anything can go wrong it's all wire and pulleys and although the engines were good they needed a lot of maintenance, so these brave men who gave their lives to free so many and the men who keep these magnificent machines as working history you are the bravest of all

  • @illnigma
    @illnigma Před rokem +1

    I was working right there on the ramp exactly when it happened. I didn't even hear the crash. They immediately put us on break. I went to the car and smoked some weed.

  • @drippzyadigg646
    @drippzyadigg646 Před 4 lety +17

    Bradley International Airport is literally within walking distance of my house.

  • @haroldmclean3755
    @haroldmclean3755 Před 4 lety +1

    My absolute condolences to the families of the victims , A Truly awful Accident , just Awful for All concerned

  • @pottymouth43
    @pottymouth43 Před 4 lety

    My father Lt. Lewis M. Kerrick flew the flying fortress so it's very special aircraft to me. This one is a tragic lost as mine was on 12/16/1943. Let us keep this old bird alive. Lewis M. Kerrick

  • @craigclarke3298
    @craigclarke3298 Před 4 lety

    Had the Privilege of flying in the 909 a few years back out of Van Nuys, California. Out over the beach of Santa Monica. Still have Pictures of the flight. Very stable Airplane in the Air. Hope the NTSB finds out what went wrong. RIP to the departed.🇺🇸

  • @kenazzopardi6977
    @kenazzopardi6977 Před 4 lety +1

    My thoughts & prayers go out to the families.

  • @jacksutherland846
    @jacksutherland846 Před 4 lety

    Beats cancer.
    Not even fucking with the bull, and still getting the damn horns!
    What a terrible tragedy.

  • @dlagrua
    @dlagrua Před rokem

    We can't say what happened here, but after reporting problems after takeoff, the plane returned to the airport and hit the ground short of the runway. This caused loss of control and the resulting crash. Whether this was pilot error or unforeseen fatal mechanical failure no one will ever know for sure. Also the pilot was 72 years old, quite short of his prime years.

    • @FiveCentsPlease
      @FiveCentsPlease Před rokem +1

      +@dlagrua The final report on the accident was released from the NTSB in April 2021. Sloppy maintenance, especially on the #3 and #4 engines as well as the pilot's poor management of the emergency were the primary causes. The mags and ignition systems of the #3 and #4 were in bad condition from very poor maintenance.

    • @dlagrua
      @dlagrua Před rokem +1

      @@FiveCentsPlease That is a shame. This tells us that the accident could have been avoided with better maintenance, repair and a pilot better equipped to land in an emergency.

  • @Imnotyourdoormat
    @Imnotyourdoormat Před 4 lety +2

    oh man...my head is bowed and i just have no words...go back 25 years with that bird.... the big radial partially through the structure just took me out like a foreman punch to the forehead.....this had to have been bad, it takes tremendous force to dismantle a flying-fort like that....R.I.P. fellow aviators.... keep your feet dry forever.

  • @danielkeirsteadsr6939
    @danielkeirsteadsr6939 Před 4 lety +1

    OMG .. I saw that one at the air show a few years ago in East Haven,CT..i live in New Haven ..So sad

  • @Promethesis
    @Promethesis Před 4 lety

    I'm really surprised there isn't video of the crash some where. It would help determine what was the actual cause. Sad to hear of this accident.

  • @Tpark1143
    @Tpark1143 Před 4 lety +3

    Honestly im pulling the trigger and riding on a B-17 before theyre grounded. I have a very strong feeling this will put an end to passenger flights on historic aircraft like these. Maybe not flybys or demonstrations in airshows, but paid passenger flights for sure. My only regret is having the chance to ride in Nine-O-Nine multiple times and not doing so..... I saw her September 1st, so sad to see her go. May all the crew and passengers lost rest in peace

    • @ricardoroberto100
      @ricardoroberto100 Před 4 lety

      Modern planes crash too. There is always a knee jerk reaction. It won't happen.

    • @cbl3839
      @cbl3839 Před 4 lety

      With public support, you and many others will still have the opportunity. Educate your friends, educate your family, but above all educate a stranger.

  • @benjamindeforest9363
    @benjamindeforest9363 Před 4 lety +1

    Got to tour this beautiful old timer two years ago and do a walkthrough at the MAPS air Museum in Canton Ohio. Felt like I was stepping back in time to 1943..

  • @immaggiethesenilegoldenret7918

    What the hell happened...how AWFUL. My very sincere condolences to the families; absolutely gutting....

  • @the_road__warrior6185
    @the_road__warrior6185 Před 4 lety

    Such a tragedy all the way around. The loss of human
    life & the loss of irreplaceable history.

  • @ChamplainValleyRailSnapshots

    Really tragic for the people and families of those killed in the crash. A huge loss to the historic flying community. I remember going through the Nine Oh Mine and Witchcraft when they visited Plattsburgh, NY about 15 years ago.

  • @Maelstr0m
    @Maelstr0m Před 4 lety

    damn thats a big historical loss right there. b-17 played a major role in ww2. To think they didnt even use 3d software to build them makes them even more impressive

  • @alphasiera1757
    @alphasiera1757 Před 4 lety +1

    May I know the results of the investigation and what caused its crash landing? Wwii b17 can take a lot of damage and can still get home

    • @LardGreystoke
      @LardGreystoke Před 4 lety

      They can also take a lot of damage and crash.

  • @flyonbyya
    @flyonbyya Před 4 lety

    My father was a crew member aboard a B-17 in the Mighty 8th,100th Bomb Group, and completed 35 harrowing missions.

    • @texmartin5460
      @texmartin5460 Před 4 lety

      yes, as I remember it was picked on a lot by the germans.

    • @flyonbyya
      @flyonbyya Před 4 lety

      Tex Martin
      Though it picked on the wrong guys. And Nazi Germany payed with utter destruction and defeat!

  • @hoppinonabronzeleg9477
    @hoppinonabronzeleg9477 Před 4 lety +1

    I took a flight on Witchcraft at Lincoln Rhode Island in 2007. I loved the way they do things. This is so hard for them. It is early days. let's get behind the Collings Foundation. So very sad for the relatives. So hard seeing NTSB poking through the debris, but they have their job to do!

  • @daffidavit
    @daffidavit Před 4 lety

    Why didn't the pilot take the closest runway to the NW rather and extend the downwind leg on the same runway he took off from?

  • @fortunatebum
    @fortunatebum Před 5 lety +4

    909 was a great plane and the pilot was a cool dude, i'm just wondering what caused it to veer off to the right.

    • @centralmarylandrailfan7887
      @centralmarylandrailfan7887 Před 5 lety

      When it touched down the right landing gear broke

    • @hotjones81
      @hotjones81 Před 4 lety +1

      Landing gear hit ils equipment caused the hard yaw

    • @awesomexistence
      @awesomexistence Před 4 lety +1

      Fortunate Bum, pilot landed 1000 ft short but successfully until the plane struck runway lighting/equipment. My speculation is the landing gear was collapsed by impacting the lighting/equip leading to a loss of directional control.

  • @billbright1755
    @billbright1755 Před 4 lety +6

    Once she clipped the wires the pilot has zero control.
    Momentum slewed her to the right and hit tank on ground. Fuel immediately ignited to quickly to exit.
    My observation only of course. My condolences to all involved.

    • @awesomexistence
      @awesomexistence Před 4 lety +5

      Bill Bright, the pilot landed 1000 ft short but apparently successful until striking runway lighting/instruments probably taking out landing gear on one side and losing directional control.

    • @brianchandler6127
      @brianchandler6127 Před 4 lety

      Why don't you people wait until the NTSB does their investigation before coming up with unsubstantiated conclusions

    • @bBersZ
      @bBersZ Před 4 lety

      @@brianchandler6127 There's nothing wrong in hypothesizing. Most everyone knows nothing is fact until an official report. And even then it could be up to speculation.

  • @jacksonstory4773
    @jacksonstory4773 Před 4 lety

    It kills me to see a plane with so much history that we will never get back

  • @hobertball3370
    @hobertball3370 Před 4 lety +6

    Them guys will put that thing back together and find out what caused it.

    • @zfgo
      @zfgo Před 4 lety

      Look at it....The fire got so hot it melted the plane. Plane couldn't withstand that kind of heat. There is the tail and some of the wings and one engine left. They won't be able to determine what malfunctioned specifically. One witness heard the plane going overhead with an engine sputtering. Didn't have enough power to climb.

    • @hobertball3370
      @hobertball3370 Před 4 lety

      Ya be suprised what they can determine. Said plane had been de iced Just minutes before take off. There’s no telling. Old plane. But they will find out. Thier the best at that

    • @Mike583
      @Mike583 Před 4 lety

      @@zfgo I've heard of pilots nursing these planes back to base in WW11 on 2 or 3 engines. Seems like they could of gotten by with 3 working easy enough to land.

    • @LardGreystoke
      @LardGreystoke Před 4 lety

      @@Mike583 I wouldn't say "easy'. Plenty of pilots crashed during "routine" practice flights.

  • @jessieblanton9875
    @jessieblanton9875 Před 4 lety +2

    Was b17 comeing in for landing then crashed???