See how unrealistic car fuel economy figures are, how they're changing & why it affects YOU!
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- čas přidán 30. 06. 2024
- Do you ever find it hard to meet the fuel economy figures quoted by your car manufacturer? You’re not the only one! That’s why changes are being introduced to review how fuel economy and emissions are calculated.
Want to find out what exactly’s going on? Watch my latest video to find out how the tests will be more realistic, what effect it may have on car tax, and (more importantly!) how it could help save you money!
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It's nice to have motivated people, but the editor was a bit overexcited on this video
He couldn't help himself due to discount on a new car that he is about to buy.
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I found them quite funny :-)
they should hire Stimpee to edit their vids
Cottar Evan trying to poorly imitate Geordie Jesus from honest john
Carwow for 12yr olds? Hint: they rarely buy cars
WTF is all that editing
HumoreShqip to target younger audiences; perhaps.
How do you do, fellow kids
Looks like a kid edited this for his senior project
oh man, dont be so up tight. Laugh for a second :D
Mat standing still for 7+ mins describing something important but bland would've had you whining about how you nearly fell asleep etc etc. Unbelievable whingers. Good video Mat, thanks.
I would like to have physical contact with that RS4.
I like gunshot contact.
Just make sure the car's cold. You don't want to burn..... yourself
Aaron Roosing wow😂🚶🔫
What?? *looks innocent* He said he wants "physical contact" with the Audi LOL
Why, they are dick mobiles, driven by dicks in a dickish fashion.
Too overedited with those random clips.
KurlikS who gives a shit
Yeah, I agree. Going for that Donut Media style, but just completely falling flat. Stick to what you do best, carwow!
I like.
To keep the attention of kids with ADHD
It was okay until the football stadium then I was like hmm yeahh
I don't needs memes.. I need Mat
words from my mouth
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Anupam B.i.t.w you did not just type out 'gay' in Malayalam
siddhesh gandhi 😁
Anupam B.i.t.w the desire for mat is not borne of sexual orientation. Everyone needs more Mat in their life.
"nom nom nom... Those mpg numbers taste good..."
Audi RS4, 2018
These little clips in the video and just the whole feel of this video is off. Trying too hard, carwow.
Yeah, reminds me of Honest John videos. I don't think carwow's videos need the added clips.
Who doesn't like saving fuel? Fuel is slowly becoming gold
Crude oil is sometimes known as black gold
you must be new on this place called The Earth. Fuel can be made from plants easily
Oil companies.
Ali RS It has already began lol
kize32 I know, not as fast as fossil fuels tho...
This video answered all of my questions regarding fuel eco. Thanks a lot for such informative videos team CarWow.
My Suzuki Swift is supposed to get around 50-60, and I get about 56.6 Mpg on average, so I'd say say the figure from Suzuki is pretty accurate.
Same for my old volvo C30. Its meant to get 38mpg overall and I do about 35 so not that far off.
trust me,cars from japan and korea have the most realistic figures. I have tiburon and it says 35-40mpg i am getting around 30-40 :D
Great video as always Matt.
I have owned three cars from new and compared the official MPG to real world (almost obsessively) on all of them. I've done that to the point of not trusting the trip computers (which are also out by about 10%) and instead by brimming the tanks and using maths.
I've come to the conclusion that there isn't a need for a new test. Real MPG figures can be calculated using a simple formula. Manufactures claimed MPG x 0.8 = real world MPG figures.
I'm not joking, it is surprisingly accurate!
damn the editor was very hyperactive today
Did carwow just hire Seth MacFarlane as their new video editor? Please get back to old carwow style, with less cutaway videos
Yes! editing was so annoying, almost 8 minute video could have been condensed into 3 mins.
@carwow Dont listen to him! Cutaways are awesome so do please keep them. Huge Family guy fan over here.
Marush Denchev piss off Marush, Nuhan is right.
Shut up, Meg!
Yeah not up to their normal standard.
Fantastic video carwow team! Funny and informative (not easy). Thanks for the heads up!
Owning a BMW M235i, I can say that getting the claimed 27.4mpg urban figure is easy. In fact I sometimes go above (30+)! You just have to adjust your driving style - have a very light foot, accelerate slowly/barely brake (let momentum slow you down) and understand when to let off the throttle to allow momentum and gravity to keep you moving. Oh, and to absolutely let rip when you feel like it ;) life isn't always about fuel economy!
Rubbish. I had an M135i and I could never break 25mpg in town and that was with me accelerating pathetically slow and inciting many an angry overtake.
Michael Sundarev What does that even mean?
James Batchelor Actually accelerating slowly will give you worse fuel economy than accelerating "quickly". I don't mean you should floor it from a stand still but using 2/4 of the throttle and getting up to the speed limit and start to cruise is better than using 1/4 of the throttle and then cruise. Also something to note is that this is better in the long run, so if you're driving alot everyday then it will help you.
Other things you could do to improve fuel economy is to:
-skip gears when going up
1-2-4 or 1-2-3-5
-let go of the throttle when approaching a red light and let it roll as much as possible. Shift down when nessecery and try to keep the rpm above 1200-1300. Keeping it above will result in 0 gas being used but if it drops below 1200-1300 the car will automatically use gas to keep the engine running/not stalling
-Try to always use the highway and avoid the city when driving as driving on the highway will result in less fuel being wasted because you're driving at a constant speed and you're not stopping and accelerating all the time as you would when driving in the city
- I don't recommend doing this but driving behind a big truck on the highway really helps with fuel economy as driving behind a big truck will massively reduce air resistance/drag. So if you need 30% throttle to stay at 100km/h, you might only need 20%-15% throttle when you are driving behind the truck. And obviously the closer you're to the truck the more pronounced the effect will become. But as I said, this is not something I would recommend unless you're driving an Audi or BMW :)
James Batchelor : Yes 100% . The people poo pooing your claim don't know what their high power cars are capable of in terms of fuel economy , largely due to never really trying to get max mpg . In the 1980s i had a ford capri 3.0 v6 with poor fuel figures (15-18 mpg avg was common ) yet using Hypermiling tips i got regular 30+ mpg . I once got 40 mpg trying very hard . Today i have VW golf + 1.6 d with a combined figure 52 mpg (not blue motion ) i get avg 700-800 miles on 1 tank ( 57-61 mpg avg ) The most important thing to get good fuel ( especially a high power car ) is as you say very gentle on acceleration & reading the road well ahead will save a lot of fuel . At what cost ? In time saved in an average journey in the real world , next to no difference , with all the congestion it makes little difference how quick you take off from the lights you have to slow down just as quick .
I can beat the manufacturers figures in both my petrol and our diesel cars without holding up traffic. It's a matter of learning what the car likes, keeping the tyres pumped up and not dragging around a boot full of useless junk!
"Computer says no" :'D I loved Little Britain
What this video omits is that trip computers tend to be optimistic too. On my 2011 Polo 1.4 it's usually about 4 mpg over my brim to brim calculation: 43.2 versus 38.95 on my last fill-up (city driving in summer). Yet testers tend to take the trip readout as gospel.
To achieve the claimed numbers is in a way mostly a test of willpower. I owned a 335i for 11 years and it had a claimed 7.2l/100km and once when driving about 890 km in one run I achieved 7.3l/100 km and on the way back 7.4. I achieved it by accelerating moderately, obeying the speed limit, coasting whenever possible, never flooring it when overtaking. I also had a really good number for city driving for many years but during the last few years I didn't have the willpower but instead feeling like using the power in a more aggressive way, of course the range shortened.
What songs do you use. Btw nice video Matt. I have been watching your videos since beginning of carbuyer. Continue the good work and thanks for the nice info.
Every car i've owned i've managed to easily get the claimed MPG, a-lot of people don't know how to drive efficiently
This video is refreshing and boasts of new style narrative. Good work, Mat!
My normally aspirated 2.2 Alfa 159 averages 20mpg, on the motorway cruising at 80 on a flat section gets 28mpg, and under hard acceleration in 2nd gear can get down to
Our 1.9 JTS (159) did 23 mpg combined. The 500x we have now in comparison feels like it doesn't use any fuel :))
The Giulietta multiar is also very efficient. At 70 kph (44mph), the speed limit on national roads here in Italy, I achieve 69 mpg. 35mpg in the city though..
Gabriel Marcu a 500, oh how the mighty have fallen
:))) How about you? Will you trade it for the Giulia? Great car the 159 btw. Loved it. Cheers!
Currently on the 2018 Alfa Giulia 180bhp (2.2 diesel) Speciale, I get up to around 53mpg on a motorway run and around 37mpg on short city runs. These both include some "spirited" accelerations, but not flat out all the time, mainly sensible with the odd burst here and there. I haven't yet reset the trip to see what it would get after serious acceleration and no economical driving - will have to check!
I wonder how reliable those trip computers are? I'm affaid those official figures would be even more off the mark if compared to actual fuel consumption.
Yep. CARWOW should measure and present how much car computer lies about average consumption which is very easy to calculate.
@@gonzogepl4068
On a 4x4 I owed the computer used to tell me I was getting 40 mpg on several real calculations the actual mpg was closer to 34 when not towing a trailer
My car (Hyundai i10) says average 60.1mpg in the official stats and the trip computer says around 53mpg and my own calculations when filling up (using same pump as some fill much higher than others before cutting off) show I get around 50mpg in reality.
Thanks Matt, really good video getting the news out
Love the new editing great video !
This video made me chuckle. I've got a 2011 Jetta TDI with 300,000 km, almost 200,000 miles. I drive 150 combined miles every day to work and back. Part back road, part highway, part city traffic. I actually get over the estimated MPGs for my car. Which I believe is 34, and I get between 37 and 40 depending.
My wife has a 2013 Mazda CX-5, drives around a 50 mile round trip through city and side road, she also achieves equal to or above the rated MPGs of her car.
Cars will do the MPG they are advertised to do. Will do it quite easily in fact, so long as you're a smart driver.
Give yourself a bit of extra time when you go places so you don't have to speed. Know that when you start getting above 50 mph and on to highway speeds it is more efficient to run the A/C than have the windows open. The same goes in reverse, below 50 just open a window. Don't be a clown on the throttle, keep it smooth, and try to avoid hard braking.
What this nutsack doesn't take into account is it's how you drive that matters. When they get these mpg figures they do it by driving an empty stretch of highway at the speed limit, they don't take into account people being late and doing 100 mph and such.
They aren't posting false or unattainable MPGs, if they were it would be false advertising and they would be hit with heavy fines. They can prove you CAN in fact achieve these MPGs so long as you're not a knob behind the wheel.
1:04 so proud of my city (Skopje) finally being in a carwow video
Vladimir A 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I wouldn’t be very proud of that
TheGreatSheikh I guess that was sarcasm
pls don't add any small useless clips,
Mat your explanation is very clear and understandable.
more importantly it makes carwow less serious like other channels
keep up the previous work.
This is what happens when you start putting turbos on economy cars, their thermal efficiency drops drastically once you hit the throttle. I can achieve the fuel economy claim easily in my Mazda 2, and exceed by quite some margin if I drive really efficiently.
Great video Matt and Carwow
1:30 hehe gorgeous sound!
Awsome info and editing
I had to double check I was actually watching carwow with all the funny clips and stuff
I drive a 2010 citroen c4 picasso 1.6 hdi to work 26 miles. I live in skelmorlie scotland and have a variation of hills and motorway on my route. The manufacturer claims 53 mpg average but on my route when actually concentrating on my efforts to drive efficiently and not putting my foot past quarter throttle and what not, the trip computer after my daily commute regularly say 64 mpg after I complete the the full journey. I have also further tested this by topping the tank to the first click at the pump, running my commute and using the amount of fuel put back in and the number of miles traveled to accurately measure the mpg and it almost exactly matches what the trip computer records so I can trust the data the car is recording to measure my consumption. I believe most drivers do not have the patience or attention span to actually drive economically and that's why the forums are full of these discussions condemning the manufacturers for far flung mpg claims when in fact there is a lack of skill.
I drive like a grandma, and I get exactly the fuel economy that my car should get according to the manufacturer. So, it is all in your right foot. Slow on the gas pedal and avoid braking.
Please could you also do an educational video on paddle shift gears, its benefits and disadvantages please??
carwow showing their support for memes before EU bans them 😂
In Malaysia we already have a lot of discounts because of 0% GST and SST is still not implemented till September this year :) what a good time to be alive
I think we will be surprised about the Nitrous Oxide emissions of all those tricilindric petrol engines that have become so popular in Europe in recent years. I've heard these turbocharged small engines are not as clean as we have been told. I've got an ecoboost and fuel consumption is far superior than what the official figures say.
It also depends on the fuel you use. (Im Australian) Ive noticed using the normal cheap fuel (91) I get around 15L/100kms on a combined city/highway cycle. Then when I use a slightly more premium version (95) i get around 12.5L/100kms ob a combined city/highway cycle. I drive a 2005 V6 Holden Calais.
That little fiesta in the background looks great 👌
09 Insignia 2.0tdi 47mpg (45 in winter) . 06 Astra 1.4 petrol 45mpg. 02 Corsa 1.2 44mpg. 04 Focus 2.0 ST170 34mpg. These are the figures I got over many many fill ups calculating it manually myself filling the tank brim to brim. Mostly mixed driving apart from insignia 80% motorway, 1800rpm @ 120kph (75mph ish).
Contrary to all the comments, I thought it was a very useful video! Taught me what I needed to know in a concise, non-boring way. Thanks CarWow
Hi Team
Quick idea for a new video. Could you potentially look at which cars in each category (family, hatchback, sports etc) have the biggest discounts available through carwow? I'm pretty open to what my next car would be so knowing I could get a bigger discount on a 1 series as opposed to an A-Class, for instance, would be very useful. Just an idea!
Mine gets 50mpg on a run, 30mpg thrashed does 0-60 in less than 3 seconds and 1/4 mile in just under 10
Oh and its a motorbike...
I've noticed this with electric vehicles too. Whenever I watch a British review of an EV, they quote the advertised range (like 200 mi for the Leaf) and then give a far lower real world range that they determined by driving it. A real world range which just so happens to line up with EPA numbers more often than not.
Was the work experience boy put in charge of editing the clips?!
I had an old saab 95 Vector sport, with the 1.9tid 150bhp engine. saab claimed 44 mpg. I was getting 50 - 52!!
PSA were quite forthcoming with "real" MPG figures a last year using a similar testing method, with plans to publish NOx emissions at a later date. The question is, why didn't anybody else do the same thing?
The extra urban figure from the old system was at an average speed of 47mph not 70mph like most people do on the motorway. This actually makes a massive difference to mpg for cars of normal size engines but for cars of large engines with no consideration for mpg it makes very little difference. For example independent tests on a Mercedes 450SEL 6.9L did 22mpg at 30mph and 19mpg at 70mph. My personal car with a 1.5l uses twice the fuel at 70mph vs 30mph.
Great video, excellent idea, I enjoy the way you explain things in this video Mat, but whose idea was it for all of those random cutaways? Just detracts from the point of the video entirely.
I'm in the United States so our fuel economy isn't calculated the same, but my car's EPA estimated economy was 17 city, 24 highway back when it was produced in 2005. Mind you, this is in a 3,800 pound sedan with a 4.6 liter V8 and a body as big as an Escalade. I regulary average 18.5 mpg in the city and 25+mpg on the highway, so it's estimated economy was calculated very accurately.
Great interview
That nearly new deals might be time for me to buy that new Focus
Computer says no ;-) Brilliant video Mat
Quite informative video 😊
The official fuel consumption figures for my Volvo V70 is 32mpg. I average 31.3mpg. Same with my S80, the official figures say it's meant to average 32mpg and I average 30.8mpg.
Going down I've seen a few comments on volvos getting the rated, or close to the rated, fuel economy. I wonder if they do some different testing because my experiance has been similar too. My C30 is meant to get about 38 mpg and I get about 36 mpg.
I remember buying my Aygo seeing it did 68mpg... When I first started driving it I was getting 55mpg. I did allot of research into eco driving and now almost every tank is above 68mpg. In winter it ranges from 67-71mpg in summer it ranges from 72-78mpg.
Diesel ?
@@chrishart8548petrol
Love this video even more than his other one's😂
Loving the new inserts
I actually manage to destroy VW's average MPG in their MK4 Golf (mine's the 1.6, 105 BHP, petrol variant). Claimed average is 39.6 MPG but I always manage 46+. I always drive economically though, which involves me feathering the throttle, changing gear under 2k RPM (unless forced to go over) and always keep it in 5th gear (highest it's got) when going 30 MPH or over.
In uk u use MPG - distance per gallon. In the rest of Europe we use l/100km - how much fuel we will use with given consumption if we go 100 km.
2008 Golf Mk5 Bluemotion 1.9 tdi. 62mpg is the claim, I get 65 mpg quite easily (tank to tank) on my 30 mile each-way commute. Just using your head a little goes a long way towards matching claimed figures :)
My Fabia vRS is listed as having about 47.3mpg but you can easily achieve slightly higher than that if you try I’ve had around 52mpg out of it... not bad for a car with both a Turbocharger and a Supercharger
My old E46 6cyl says it's rated for 9.9l/100 and I regularly achieve that in a mix of driving.
At last, an informative video. By the way CarWow offered some terrible deals last year when I was looking to change out of my Mercedes E350. New cars were being offered with under a hundred pounds discount?? I’d get better than that just ringing a dealership.
If CarWow is going to work, you have to get the dealers to offer more attractive discounts...
I checked the numbers for my car, a Seat Ibiza 6L form 2007 with over 170k km, and they are pretty accurate. I dirve a lot on the autobahn and even there it stays under 6l/100km.
RDE has nothing to do with WLTP. It is a part of the EURO emission standards whereas the vehicle cannot exceed some levels of emissions. The point is to prevent another dieselgate when a car could recognize that it is being tested.
In my experience you can come very very close to the claimed mpg but as Matt stated it’s just not realistic to drive in that manner on the road
No big problem getting to 4.3 l/100 km on average after 70000 km in my Mitsubishi Space Star with CVT. (Mirtsubishi claims 4.1 so I am very close).
Fuel economy really depends on how you drive too. My MPV gives 9 kmpl in city driving and gives 15kmpl (higher than its certified mileage of 14 under standard test conditions) on highway driving while going at 70-80 kmph. IF i go at 100 it falls to about 12 kmpl.... 120 10 kmpl and 140 its 8 kmpl. Its really how you drive that causes such variation in mileage.
Y'all had too much fun making this one 😂😂😂
How is this even legal?
My VW mk2 Golf gti will do 45-55 mpg, on the motorway. Considering it’s 28 years old, I’m pretty happy with that! Just had the engine fully rebuilt but I doubt that’ll make the fuel economy much better
Well what I've seen is that the biggest offenders are small turbocharged petrol engines while diesels tend to be much closer the estimated figures and many times almost true
I don't seem to experience this issue with either a BMW 330i or my 1.6L Petrol Golf Mk6.
On a long roadtrip in the golf I can reach around 5.4L/100km or even less.
I have checked it... I mean I got 26 mpg on my first drive (before I got my license) but then it fell to just a tick over 20. But my car is supposed to get 24 city and 28 highway. I've tried to Prius it, but it doesn't help out much (maybe 1/2 mpg better).
Always wondered why they don't have you on Top Gear mate
What I would like to know is how WLTP tests the Fuel Consumption. I understand that they do all these tests in a lab but how do they get the actuall figures, do they do the tests and then trusts the figures from the cars own data shown to us or do they actually measure the fuel that is gone from the tank?
Great video. Very informative. More like this please.
But seriously though, this taxing business is getting ridiculous. 🙄
Hi there, very interesting, I've never been incloned to believe advertising, but ten years ago we bought a second-hand Skoda Fabia, 1.9 turbodiesel. We have now done forty five thousand miles on it and the average fuel consumption, based on recorded mileage and fuel purchase, is about fifty three MPG!. It is not as if I always drive slowly either, if I clod it on motorways all day at 70mph plus a bit it may drop to 52mpg. It looks as if we'll have to hang onto it for a bit if what you are saying is true we will be hard pressed to do better. Cheers, Richard.
I had a focus 1.5 tdci and I really did get as good or better than published mpg. 700 miles out of a tank. I miss it...
This tv show is the best for educational. remember I am from south Africa so we often look for quick wins and fixes so if we can go faster on less petrol or sometimes we use diesel then its good. Mister Mat please don't encourage us to drive stolen cars it is a problem in my country.
In my experience with my 2014 swift sport are rated at 6.5L/100ks but i am able to achieve 6.1/100km. To help me get those figures i inflate my tyres 2psi above the recommended level, coast in gear as much as possible and use windows instead of aircon as much as possible
Focus 1.0 EcoBoost has given as 53.3 MPG, which I think is really good. That Astra also has a one liter turbo engine, so the 40 MPG sounds really bad. Our driving is pretty average city + highway 50/50.
Why are you trusting the trip computers in these cars? We know that speedometers are usually out by around 10%. I think it's safe to assume the trip computers are out by as much too, its taking the data from the same sensors as the speedometer.
Best test is to fill the tank, travel a set distance without relaying on the car to tell you how far you've gone, fill up at the end and work your mpg out on your own from the difference in fuel.
Hi
One thing I cannot understand is why car manufacturers aren't made to use the VOC emissions as these are more harmful.
Petrol engines emit more VOCs than modern diesel engines
MPG is all about how you drive and your route. On a good day I can get over 58 MPG on a 24 mile journey in my BMW 530d - most people wouldn't believe that for a 3 litre 6 cylinder car. Yet BMW claims 53 MPG combined. The key is to never brake and accelerate gently, being very light on the throttle. I don't even brake at roundabouts now.
I don't get it, how does not braking help fuel economy?
In the past i've ALWAYS manages to get more than the manufacturer's stated MPG!Oh, except for my second S2 Land Rover. The more new bits i swapped on the engine the less MPG i got. After new dizzy, leads, points and carb, i was down to 6MPG!So i swapped the 2225cc petrol engine for a used 2500cc diesel out of a LDV van
Never had that much trouble getting the quoted mpg on the cars I’ve had but then I can drive religiously at times
The additional weight from the body of the car can also account for the unrealistic mpg.
I have a request, Can you please increase the volume for the time you guys are recording outside. There is a huge variation between the voice levels when recording in and around car and the parts where its recorded after. Have to play with volume all the time due to this.
Very good upload and cant understand the direction of comments.. Anyway here is mine..Question 1.. Would your dream car.. Say hypothetically be a Porsche 911, stop you buying it if you only returned 20mpg against claimed 30mpg.. Answer no.. Why ? you couldn't give a toss its a Porsche and your happy.. Question 2 your dream car is a environmentally friendly sporty eco acceptable vehicle lets say for an example a BMWi8 that beasts 0-60 and produces a claimed 130 mpg but in reality achieves high forty's.. dam you would be mad.. Lets face it a huge percentage of normal car purchases are based on regular vehicle purchases not dreams not Porches or alike..part of our normal car buying decisions are based on affordability, practicability and achievable accurate mpg..A claimed 57mpg for a normal saloon that only hits 40 needs to be addressed
An NEDC is tested with the engine in the vehicle, not with the engine out of the vehicle as incorrectly stated at 0:47 in this video.
so if i have already 'bought' a car, but wont collect before september 1st, am i likely to be stung with additional costs from the dealer?
hey @Donut Media, someone's been checking out your video editing, alright!
The truth at last, my vw golf was meant to do 50+ mpg combined but only done 37
With these ridiculous numbers, I'm thinking that the vehicle's curb weight will give a more realistic estimate.
Further more the trip computer on any car would give better mpg rating than the actual mpg. All trip computers are giving between 10% to 20% better mpg than the actual. The best way to find out how much you car is using is to fill it to the top, drive for 100-200 miles and then fill to the top again. That way you can see exacttly how much you are getting.
Does carwow have a selling option for left side driven cars and do you do it outside Britain?