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The History of Godzilla vs. King Ghidorah (1991)
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- čas přidán 16. 01. 2022
- The History of Godzilla vs. King Ghidorah (1991)
#Godzilla #KingGhidorah #Ghidorah
This is a re-upload with some minor corrections and edits
Original upload date: Dec 2nd, 2019
Sources
- Brian Solomon's "Godzilla FAQ"
- David Kalat's, "A Critical History and Filmography of Toho's Godzilla Series".
- Steve Ryfle's "Japan's Favorite Mon-Star: The Unauthorized Biography of "The Big G".
- wikizilla.org
- www.tohokingdom.com/
You can purchase or rent "Godzilla vs. King Ghidorah " at www.amazon.com.
**This is a re-upload with some minor corrections and edits**
Original upload date: Dec 2nd, 2019
Are you going to continue remaking some of the old vids? Or just rerelease with minor corrections? I thoroughly enjoyed the more in depth reviews
This tripped me out just watched this last night lol
Godzilla is a force of nature, not evil just something that didn't care who had no conscience, he was driven by one need, the need to destroy.
I think Godzilla forgot about shindo
No black Americans is crazy
“I’m not making a film about silly space monsters” because three bootleg Pokémon being fused into a giant monster by a nuclear blast after being dumped on an island in WWII by time-traveling terrorists makes way more sense than the monster just being from outer space
yeah i like what he did but hes a bit disrespectful and elitist
I always saw the Shindo scene as Godzilla hesitating to kill him at first due to recognizing him and showing a rare sense of sentimentality towards him compared to other humans. I like to think that Shindo himself nodded as a way to tell Godzilla it was okay to kill him because of all the guilt he felt, not just from leaving him behind all the way back during World War II, but he feels guilty because (as far as he knows) the reason why Godzilla is currently rampaging through Japan in the first place is because of _his_ resources, so he feels letting himself be vaporized by Godzilla himself is a fitting punishment, which Godzilla accepts.
Nah thats too much.
Most likely it's the way wild animals recognize humans, then attack all the same
Dude that is deep
Period.
I just got done watching it for the first time and I feel similarly. There is definitely some type of acknowledgment by Godzilla, and Shindo was 100% prepared for death. Shindo seemed to have no delusions that Godzilla would spare him there.
@@gasparguruoftime5475 he even said “Let me have it my way.”
And acknowledged how ironic it was that the dinosaur that saved him is the same one that is destroying everything that he has built.
"Godzilla vs King Ghidorah is anti american"
Did they miss the entire part where Godzilla attacks Japan and only Japan?
Just Americans being insecure about their misplaced pride
He's mad at them for abandoning the empire. Godzilla is a nationalist. That's why he killed that WWII veteran who snitched to those Futurian foreigners on where/when to find Godzilla.
Godzilla is a nationalist is crazy
I like your comic timing, “…didn’t have that during Showa, you three headed bastard.”
Back in 97' or 98', Mr. Tsuchiya was a guest at G-fest. About a half a mile from G-fest was a Japanese supermarket called Yaohan that many fans would go to when there were no events that interested them. One Saturday night, my friends and I were at Yaohan finishing dinner and were getting ready to head back to G-fest at about 7:45 to see Mr. Tsuchiya's panel. But just when we were about to leave, we saw Mr. Tsuchiya walking around the book section(!!). My friends said, "he'll never make it back to G-fest in time for his panel!" He had no one with him (back then there were no handlers for the guests). So my friends insisted I use my rudimentary Japanese to tell him that we were going put him in our mini-van and race him back over to the venue. He was like, "ok! no problem". Didn't ask for ID, nothing. We could have kidnapped him(!!). Here we are, racing him through the streets of Chicago to get him back in time and he doesn't look like he has a care in the world, totally relaxed. We got him back in time, he thanked us and started his panel. He's my favorite Toho actor and its one of those memories I will cherish forever.
This was one of my favorite Godzilla movies growing up. I always interpreted the scene with Shindo as this Godzilla not being the Godzilla we remember, particularly of the Showa era (when I was too young to get the different "eras"). Where the previous renditions of Godzilla may have spared him or showed mercy, this one pauses briefly for nostalgia but ultimately doesn't care about sentiment and kills him without remorse, making Godzilla an antihero at best and more like an uncaring bastard child of Mother Nature and mankind, and he's got daddy issues.
Heisei era Ghidorah/Gojira is a special type of epic
Time travel itself not being able to stop Gojira is just plain badass
The dorats are kinda cute but I like that the music itself is weary of them.
I prefer a perfect blend of campy and serious the mixed tones can be fun if done right 🦇💀🦇
I love these videos, I think they're easily the best Godzilla history/reviews on CZcams so re-upload or not I'm always excited to see an upload. This is a good movie as well, there are flaws though as with pretty much any movie. I agree that the ret-conning of Ghidorah's origins is a bit lame, I like the idea that the manga took of the Futurians coming across Ghidorah's remains in space and using his DNA to create their own version, the Dorats are kind of cute in their own way though & Mecha King Ghidorah is my personal favorite incarnation of Ghidorah in general. The time travel plot is a bit of mess, but like most Kaiju plots it tends to be easier to just accept the movies internal logic and not question it too much. Godzillasaurus was a nice addition and I've always loved the design, I have to agree that Godzilla being a T.rex originally doesn't make much sense, so I'm glad they scrapped that idea. Probably also my 2nd favorite Godzilla suit in the whole franchise (my no.1 is the MireGoji design) He looks positively imposing, and the idea that Godzilla is inevitable is not only cool but ties in really nicely with the overall theme of Godzilla being the spectre of the bomb that will forever hang over the heads of mankind. Overall, this is a pretty solid entry in the series & one that I would probably show to someone interested in getting into Godzilla. To finish, I'm not American, so it's kind of irrelevant to me, but I never got any anti-USA sentiment from the WW2 scenes, the uproar always seemed to reek more of American exceptionalism and some not liking the fact that the Japanese soldiers weren't portrayed as the bad guys.
I agree with the last part of what you said, as well as most of the other things you said, but I especially agree with the last thing.
I'm am american, but I don't think that the world war 2 scenes were anti american.
If it is "anti american" to show the americans as bad guys, then isn't the whole movie of godzilla vs biollante "anti american", since throughout the whole film americans are literally the villains.
They blow up the science base which kills the scientist's daughter, they try to "steal" godzilla cells and kill japanese soldiers while doing so, and then they threaten to release godzilla if they don't get what they want, and then they end up releasing godzilla anyways.
So I don't think having one scene of the godzillasaurus "saving" some japanese soldiers(when in reality he didn't even save them, it's just that the japanese soldiers were hiding in the trees, and the americans started to shoot at the dinosaur, thus causing him to do what he did, so he didn't even save them with that being his purpose, despite them thinking he did, because in a way he did), so I don't think that the godzillasaurus doing that was worse than what they did in godzilla vs biollante, and I don't think even that is anti american.
I think that probably isn't accurate to what america would do at all, but I don't think it's anti american.
But yeah I mostly agree with the rest of what you said, I just wanted to give my perspective, and yeah this is probably one of the best documentaries on godzilla films, except I would have liked for him to go into how they did the effects, like he did with godzilla vs biollante.
Like he talked about the underwater scenes for vs biollante but didn't mention the much better underwater scene here, but overall the best documentary.
I guess to mention everything would take like 5 hours, but he did a really good job.
That’s very cash money of you
I have a friend who wants to watch all the Godzilla movies and was impressed with the facts that I could tell her about the first movie. So, I got "The critical history of Godzilla" and rewatch these videos before every movie. She is so impressed by my knowledge. But I owe most of it to you, Big Action Bill. I look up other reviews and do research online, but my main point of information is you. I watch these often as I am working. They are great for their information, but they are really enjoyable to listen to. And, like you, I am getting a Godzilla Collection of toys. I am blowing money on all this Godzilla stuff. And I just don't care enough to stop. Thank you, BA Bill, for continuing these film reviews. They are wonderful.
The theory of the Futurians accidentally creating the Heisei Godzilla is so good, I don't care if it was intended, it's definitely part of my headcanon.
This and the first vs Mechagodzilla were my only Godzilla tapes as a kid. I would watch one then play Super Godzilla as my Saturday afternoon every week
They used to play Godzilla movies every Saturday here in Florida when I was a kid. It would follow up with the old black and white serials like Dick Tracy, Zorro and Batman and such.
The perfect weekend. This was the first Godzilla movie I remember seeing on TV as a kid, SBS (a national TV station here in Australia that tends to focus on foreign programming and movies) used to air the subtitled Heisei movies a fair bit and upon seeing the listing in the TV guide I promptly crapped myself with excitement, taped it on my VCR and would watch it over and over for years afterwards.
@@johnciol9108 sushi cinema
I watch your videos. The theories do nothing to my 5 year old self cheering Godzilla in his destruction. The 61 year old me is delighted that knows Godzilla is loved by millions and will never die. You have a fan as long as I live,Bill.
Although the Heisei series is overall my favourite, I can't help but lament that it didn't maintain the melancholy atmosphere of G84 and GvB. Imagine what new directions it could have taken had it not been for Showa era nostalgia.
I think they did a good job, and if it had kept going the way it was going there probably would only be three heisei godzilla films, and all the godzilla films after the heisei era would have been affected in a lot of ways with what they would and wouldn't do, except for godzilla 1998 that one was going to do what it wanted no matter what.
Like I guess there is a reason that a lot of people like this film as their favorite godzilla film, not me of course, mostly because I find this film not even as good as most of the movies in the heisei era.
But people don't like sad godzilla movies as much.
And I don't know exactly what you mean by showa era nostalgia, if them using the some of the monsters but under completely different story lines and plots is considered showa era nostalgia, then isn't any godzilla film that has monsters from the past, being affected from showa era nostalgia, like basically the whole millenium era, except the first two movies which weren't even that good overall, to be honest.
I think that the heisei era did very well with the movies that they created, and the only film that was basically a recreation of a showa era film, was godzilla vs mothra, but even this one in my opinion was done better.
Also I'm pretty sure godzilla vs spacegodzilla and godzilla vs destoroyah weren't affected by showa era nostalgia, but I know you meant godzilla vs king ghidorah to godzilla vs mechagodzilla.
Even godzilla 1984 was basically a copy of the original godzilla film, making it technically affected by showa era nostalgia.
it's up to you on what conclusion you want to take, I can only tell you some of my thoughts on this topic.
@@GSTE_The more tragic tone and themes end up returning for Godzilla vs Destoroyah
It's interesting to learn how long this one took to release outside of Japan, because it was actually the first Godzilla movie I ever saw back in the late 90s. And a waxing and waning obsession was born...
I was an extra in this movie, totally by accident. It was my first job in Tokyo and I ended up on a mountain with a GI suit on. I didnt even know it was a Godzilla movie until I spotted the head on a tower. I was paid 3500 yen...fun times.
Growing up In Hawaii was had a couple of Japan Import video stores, so I was able to keep up with watching all the newer movies, BUT I didn’t understand what was happening. So i would regularly fast forward all the “just people” parts. And that made for such awesome monster smashing fun times.
I seriously love your videos Bill! You go into such depth about the movies they're making and their history. On my twitch channel I have a redeem where somebody can pop it and I dish out a Godzilla fact. I often listen to at least three of your videos a day so that I have plenty of facts at the ready. And I never get sick of listening to them! Props to you on making such a amazing content!
Another one of my favorite entries! Good job explaining the time travel issues. I agree I'm not a big fan of time travel but it was pretty ambitious and an original story. I tend to think he is the same as 84 Goji and Godzilla is pretty much inevitable haha
Making Ghidora's origin some kind of weird time travel plot is way more silly then it coming from outer space! Outer space origin gave it a much more ominous feeling, I didn't feel King Ghidora was a threat at all in this movie. As a matter of fact this movie is what started to become the problem with these series of Godzilla movie, the one hit kill laser fights, annoying!
100%
Here is my take on the time travel thing.
The Futurians discovered Ghidorah's body right? Notice that he is missing a head, the head the becomes the robot head for Mecha King Ghidorah when they bring that thing to the past.
It's a stable time loop, the Futurians didn't change anything because they had already tried to change the past but because at the point they went to the past they didn't know about it they didn't know they had tried.
The Godzillasaurus was put in the ocean where a nuclear submarine would have an accident and irradiate it turning it into the Heisei Godzilla.
One theory I had that relates to this is that after G-Force dug up the corpse of Mecha-King Ghidorah and salvaged its futuristic technology to build Mechagodzilla, it's entirely possible that they just dumped the technology-free remains back in the ocean once they were done, therefore leaving the body of the regular King Ghidorah to eventually become Mecha-King Ghidorah in the future.
Oh no, I've gone cross-eyed.
My issue with the "stable time loop" theory is that, if the events of the '80s movies still happened, it's really bizarre for the characters to be saying things like "we need to find that dinosaur and turn it into Godzilla!" "What do you mean you sense Godzilla, Miki? The one under the sea is just a dinosaur!" Like, there would be records and people with very fresh memories of him rampaging around just a couple years prior. As soon as they remembered he existed, they should immediately realize the whole "leave a dinosaur in the ocean" plan didn't work out like they thought, but for some reason they keep assuming he's still a dinosaur in the early '90s right up to the big reveal.
@@Rodanguirus The fact that they still remember the second Godzilla screams stable time loop.
@@maximaldinotrap That's not my issue with it. My issue is that, even though there should in theory be a ton of physical evidence and memories that Godzilla was just out and about as recently as 1989, both heroes and villains in 1991 seem under the impression that he's still a dinosaur until he emerges in 1991. Terasawa even dismisses psychic visions that Miki has of him. And the Futurians apparently don't even think to check their work with their super-advanced technology??? They realize what happened once Godzilla pops up in 1991, but it really shouldn't have surprised them like does it, since, again, there should be a ton of very clear evidence that Godzilla was in full monster mode and just strolling around Japan only two years prior.
Like, it's probably the "cleanest" solution to make the overall Heisei series work, but it requires both the protagonists and antagonists of GvsKG to act very dumb/lazy/leap to really bizarre conclusions.
Which is fine...I accept that these movies have some hiccups. But it's weird to me to see a lot of fans say something to the effect of "the time travel makes perfect sense...it's a stable time loop," and just kind of ignore how really weird basically every human character in GvsKG needs to behave to make that happen.
"Take that you dinosaur!" I still laugh hard at that line.
I can't believe you had a Mecha King Ghidorah too! I had an 18 inch tall one my grandparents got me from Young's Newsstand, a local comic and collectable shop. I had no idea what it was from but my imagination took flight with what could have led to its creation.
As for the plot? I go with the Lucy Lawless explanation. All the time travel stuff was fixed by a wizard just outside the camera's view.
I'm gonna rewatch the whole thing, you can't stop me
Man, thank you for explaining this movie. I have watched this flick a bunch of times, both subbed and dubbed and I could never figure out exactly why the future people were trying to take over the past. I really have been enjoying this "history of" series, keep up the good work.
This movie has always been one of my personal favorites, ever since I first saw it as a kid. It was one of the first Godzilla movies I ever saw and was my introduction to King Ghidorah. I still remember watching this movie when it aired on the Sci-fi Channel (Syfy) back in the early 2000’s. I also remember renting it on VHS from the public library! xD
Even though the plot makes absolutely no sense, I still find it very entertaining to watch, even as an adult. Say what you will about GvsKG, but one thing that it’s not is boring. Even with its goofy, nonsensical time travel plot, I still find it very engaging, even when the monsters aren’t on screen, and once the monsters finally throw down, it’s extremely satisfying. Godzilla’s fights with both Ghidorah and Mecha King Ghidorah in are very memorable and have left a permanent mark in my mind forever.
I consider GvKG one of my all-time favorite “So Bad, It’s Good” movies. It’s trash, but I enjoy it, warts and all. :)
I grew up with it and love it. (So I agree lol)
The origin of Godzilla, the origin of king ghidora, space travel, hand to hand fights(in the alien ship), and then it's the bigger than ever Godzilla (submarine charged and pissed off) vs MECHA KING GHIDORAH......
as a kid I could watch this forever.
I don’t think that it’s so bad it’s good. It, along with the rest of the Heisei films, is a major step up in quality from the Showa era of Godzilla. Although the plot may be a little outlandish, the films quality is far from a terrible B movie.
I am appreciating these history videos of yours. I also thought all the Godzilla movies were awesome as a kid and it's neat now to learn some backstory about their creation.
That was confusing for a second. I watched your videos this morning lol great work
This was the movie that got me into Godzilla. I showed up late to a Godzilla movie marathon my friends had going, and missed the original and Godzilla returns (they were skipping Showa). Biolante was my first movie, but THIS was the one that made it click that these could be good, fun movies and not just B-movie camp. It introduced me to my immediate favorite monster King Ghidorah, and sent me down a rabbit hole of learning all about the history of Godzilla and his cultural impact through the years.
i honestly think that Godzilla should be like the OG, not evil, not good, just an animal that happen to destroy everything on his way and reacting to his instinct and beastly emotions
My personal favourite Godzilla film! Thanks for covering it.
My theory is there is 3 Godzilla's 1954, 1955(showa), 1984 and the Futurians eliminated thr 1955 godzilla thus why no one remembers those events but still remembers both 1954 and 1984.
the start of the movie nobody at least mentioned any of the events and that means king ghidorah would have made the planet into a Venus since Godzilla wasn't there to defend the earth and that means there were monsters between Godzilla 1954 and Godzilla 1984 but in 1984 they said there were no other monsters other than Godzilla. other than that still a cool theory
Oh boy the Godzilla movie that to this day confuse the hell out of me ... damn time travel lol
Very well then that time travel loop explanation was by far the clearest and most concise I have ever seen on CZcams great work
I remember watching a news clip about Godzilla Vs King Ghidorah on CNN. The clip talked about the film’s plot and showed some scenes, especially the American soldiers shooting at and running from the Godzillasaurus.
The line spoken by the soldier on the radio was so bad it was funny.
“A DINOSAUR! A GIANT DINOSAUR AND IT’S ATTACKING OUR BOOOYYSS!!!”
Robert Scott Field reminded me of Woody from Toy Story, still maintaining that frozen expression during all the abuse he takes. He was great.
Akira Ifukube’s music was used in past films. The music cue when the Futurian’s ship flies over Tokyo is from the King Kong Vs. Godzilla score called East Meets West (when Godzilla and King Kong meet for the first time). The music cue when the JADF engage King Ghidorah is from Rodan (or Radon in Japanese) called Get Radon when the JADF engage Rodan.
The scene where M-11 says “Go ahead.” And Terizawa finishes with,”Make my day!” Was a shout out to Dirty Harry film Sudden Impact.
The idea of King Ghidorah as a space monster always appealed to me. But as an earth borne monster like Godzilla, wouldn’t he be the same height as Godzilla ‘54?
The scene between Shindo and Godzilla as they share a moment of recognition was iconic. It was as if they were saying to each other, “ You’re still alive… and yet…you’ve changed. You’ve changed a lot.” And then Shindo gives Godzilla the nod and permission for Godzilla to kill Shindo with his radioactive fire ray.
The anti-American allegation was not there but a pro-Japan sentiment was ever present but it wasn’t blatant , in my humble opinion.
The film may have been a weird story, but like all things in that timeline, it still is a lot of fun.
Great video and observations.
loved emi & m 11(pretty much the closest we saw the terminator in a godzilla movie.) in this movie. :3
enjoyed this movie as i love the look of the heisei series,while i don't like the dorats as an origin for ghidorah though like mecha king ghidorah(would love if he showed up in the monsterverse being controlled by kevin in mechagodzilla's head.).
love godzilla's origin as a docile dinosaur that goes out of it's way to protect soldiers with the shindo scene being him hesitating to the man he protected only to go with it at shindo's approval to make up for his guilt at his actions with godzilla accepting past his rage towards japan for feeling betrayed showing him as both a force of nature but also a creature trying his best to adapt with humans punishing them when their actions cause chaos(took his roar at the end as him just letting all his confused rage unleashed.) which gmk/final wars to an extent showed.
with the time travel only found it confusing with what happened to hesei godzilla as i thought he got erased not teleported away(and how there are 2 godzillasaurus with the other offscreen being 1954 as that one was a marine version.) as it's more a stable time loop(though wonder why they didn't get the now dead corpse of ghidorah instead of traveling just to show this.) with the timelines stuff being more on fans than fully the movie.
with godzilla being said by the futerions to have helped japan become a world superpower find it a heartwarming continuity reveal that it's godzilla junior with the nations jealous of the country(that i don't think is as bad as u.s war films that go too far with glorifying it.) being stopped by jr. protecting his friends having a better relationship with humanity.
BA out here doing his thing. I love this channel.
Just seeing the suit for king ghidorah flying above everyone is so sick. It would be so amazing to of been on set for these older movies and see all this going down in person.
i think the flying model they use for king ghidorah looks really cool, he looks more vicious than his suit counterpart.
perfectly timed, as all things should be
Always loved this one. It's just such a wild story, and I always found it fun to watch.
I bought a Godzilla vs King Ghidorah poster while I was in San Francisco, and I have it hung up in my bedroom. It looks so good and is one of my favorite pieces of merchandise I have.
Ironically.m, I’ve never seen the movie :)
great video as always, these are a joy to bing watch
I keep breaking into Devo’s song whip it whenever I see the planet X denizens
My theory on why there was still a Godzilla when they went to create him was: Ghidorah destroys Japan, but the Futurians eventually lose control of it, leaving Japan an unlivable wasteland. Most of the Japanese heroes, specifically Kosuke Toyohara, were jailed. 20 years passes. Miki avoids jail time by working for the emergent Futurian-controlled government, and keeps in contact with Emmy. One of Kosuke's guards was a child when Godzilla was "replaced" with Ghidorah; he had developed a psychic connection to Godzilla which was traumatically severed with the changed timeline. He grows up haunted by this event. Miki convinces him to help her stage a jailbreak. She's been working with Emmy through the years. With the guard's help, they rescue Kosuke, hack an M15 android with and install the original M11's augmented programming/personality, steal the mothballed time ship, and go back in time to make sure the Gojirasaurus is irradiated by the soviet sub. Unfortunately, since that happened 10 years after the creation of the original Godzilla, Ghidorah would be around at that time, not as powerful as it would eventually become, but strong enough to destroy the time ship. The mission is successful but become a suicide mission.
I had to write this story to make the movie makes sense, because that time travel plot hole was too large for my head to get around otherwise.
Great videos, I look forward to future History Of's. Once your done with the G films, maybe you can do the three Gamera films from the 90's?
I am so enjoying these videos so very much. Thank you for making these. I'm learning so very much.
early so just wanted to let you know these are some of my favorite kaiju videos on youtube, you do great work
I wish there was Kamen Rider, Sentai, Ultraman and gamera content as in depth as Bill’s.
Check out Blunova if you haven't already, they cover Kamen rider, ultraman in somewhat similar depth
Well I think the plot was just badly written. I think this whole movie is one big plot hole. Don't know about the english dub, but in the polish one when people get back to the present time, they say "Congratulations, Godzilla never happened but we have King Gidorah now". Which is a stupid line in itself, but that made me always think- so if this alters the Heisei timeline, and up to Godzilla vs King Gidorah nobody seen Godzilla... how can they say that the Oxygen Destroyer kill the first Godzilla in Godzilla vs Destroyah. :P
This is my favorite Godzilla film history video because Godzilla vs King Ghidorah is my favorite Heisie Godzilla film in the series.
I have to say this movie was really good my 5 year old son loved it and now he’s now a big fan of the big G
King Ghidorah’s roar has a very Rodan feel to it, along with that of Geronimon from ultra man
That’s because it IS Rodan’s roar. Just modified
@@mlgodzilla4206 modified is an overstatement more like just pitched up
i used to have this movie on VHS when i was a kid. It was the first Godzilla movie i ever saw. It was this movie, plus the video game, Godzilla Unleashed, that got me into Godzilla as a kid. (that and watching Cinemassacre's Monster Madness Godzillathon) I haven't seen the movie in years, but i swear the american actors had less awkward dubbing in my version of the movie. Maybe i'm just remembering wrong, maybe it's the Mandela effect.
Love this Godzilla movie childhood nostalgia for me.
A few years ago, I entered into IMDB's page for this movie that the US Navy has no rank designation for, "Major." Something of a goof for the, "Major Spielberg," scene. While some have suggested that Spielberg might have been a Marine, the collar device on his uniform would then designate him as, "Lt. Colonel," and the captain would have addressed him as such. If it was gold, he'd then be a, "Major."
Cool I like your vids!
I never thought of this movie as being anti-American I don't know who came up with that is probably some stupid person at CNN. I love the whole Godzilla taking on Americans and kicking our ass I never saw it as anything other than what it was Godzilla protecting his land
Can't wait for you to go in depth on the monsterverse
"Take that, you dinosaur." 😂😂😂
I rented this movie when it was first made available on American VHS. The combination of the music, weird FX, several beers and watching it at 2:00 AM made that M-11 chase scene THE creepiest thing I'd ever seen in a Godzilla flick!
The toy thing was confusing lol. My mom bought me a Toho monster set. Back of the box had each monsters name and emblem I think. Didn't know who Batra, Mogura, space Godzilla, mecha godzilla 2, mecha king ghidorah and Biolante were lol wish I could find it now lol
I wish we could get some newer live action films like the classic Heisei era Godzilla films or Gamera films with suitmation or animatronic/CG mix but I know it is a total pipe dream
Very good job with this history of godzilla vs king ghidorah, but this godzilla is the same one as in 1984 and 1989, it's just that his origin was different.
I think that's what they were intending yeah, but it's pretty confusing and never really explained in the movie, because wouldn't the Godzilla that was created on Lagos be the 1954 Godzilla? Given that the first Godzilla was still canonically killed in this timeline, that makes the 84/89 Godzilla the 2nd from this timeline, so where did it come from exactly? Are there two Godzillasaurus that got exposed to radiation living in different places? if they erased or "moved" the Lagos Godzilla then wouldn't that make the Godzilla in this movie the same as the first one? That would mean that there should be two Godzilla's roaming about in the King Ghidorah timeline? That's the issue with the time travel plot, it's not properly thought out and you end up with a whole downward spiral of plot holes and inconsistencies.
@@seanmckelvey6618 I think it was explained, it was said that he still became godzilla, the only thing that wasn't stated in this film was that all the same events in the past still happened, which if this series ended here, it probably would be confusing.
But they make clear in vs spacegodzilla and godzilla vs destroyah that 1954 godzilla died from the oxygen destroyer and that biollante still happened.
And I think I made a really long explanation, but I guess you didn't see it, so I'll explain.
The godzilla that was created from the dinosaur on lagos was the 1984-1989 godzilla.
Godzilla 1954 was woken up in the ocean from atomic bomb testing and then killed by the oxygen destroyer.
Godzilla 1954 was the same size as he always was, especially when you go into the seperate timeline of the showa era they explain it when another godzilla shows up.
That godzilla had atomic breath, was 50 meters tall and was godzilla, it was explained there was a species of godzilla that had woken up first in 1954, and then another one with anguirus in 1955.
I'll explain more...
@@seanmckelvey6618 The godzilla created on lagos in 1944 from a dinosaur was the 1984-1995 godzilla.
I'll explain why.
When they time travelled and then they teleported the dinosaur, a nuclear submarine crashed into the ocean, thus creating godzilla.
And since godzilla 1984 follows the sounds of migrating birds and high pitch noises, it makes sense that he would go in a similar direction every time despite him being in the ocean instead of on lagos island, meaning that godzilla 1984 and godzilla vs biollante still happened the exact same way.
And when they went back into the present time, everyone still remembered godzilla, and why they went in time, showing that literally nothing had changed, miki could still sense godzilla, but they just couldn't find godzilla's location in the ocean, so they assumed he was dead.
When in fact he was the same as he was before they left, in the beginning of the movie they talk about him being drained by the anti nuclear energy bacteria, and thats why he's on the bottom of the ocean.
So back to the present, the future people have king ghidorah destroy japan, and the military tries to recreate godzilla, not knowing he is still the same as he was before.
Godzilla takes the submarine and grows to 100 meters and burns the anti nuclear energy bacteria out of his system forever.
I could explain further, but this is the main thing, godzilla 1954 was in the ocean, he wasn't mutated from a dinosaur into godzilla 1954, he was always like that and then he died. Heisei godzilla was created originally by the atomic bomb testing near that island when he was a dinosaur, that changed when he was switched with ghidorah and then Heisei godzilla's new origin was in the ocean, where a nuclear submarine turned him into godzilla.
Meaning that it is the same godzilla from 1984 to 1995.
@@GSTE_ Yeah, but the 2nd Godzilla in the showa timeline never happened in this one, so anything explained in that series after 1954 is irrelevant. In the Heisei series the accepted origin of Godzilla (as a whole) is an irradiated Godzillasaurus, they never state otherwise at any point. So you're saying that the 54 Godzilla was just Godzilla from the start, which maybe, I guess, but they never state anything about that ones origin in this series & why would a random Dinosaur (that already looks like Godzilla) be mutated by a nuke just so happen to assume the exact same form as the 54 Goji, with the same abilities? seems like a stretch. I'm aware that the previous heisei movies still happened in this continuity, and obviously the first Godzilla was killed by the Oxygen Destroyer because Destoroyah itself happens, but with all the timey wimey bullshit they seem to have forgotten about the fact that there are 2 different Godzilla's in this timeline & never explain which one is the one on Lagos. Don't get me wrong, I like this movie a lot, but the more you think about it the less sense it all makes.
@@seanmckelvey6618 So to answer one of your last questions, there is only one godzilla around in 1992, heisei godzilla when he is 100 meters tall. Godzilla 1954 died from the oxygen destroyer exactly like the original film. To be honest your question is more confusing than the movie.
Time travel is very complex, I don't think it's ever been done right in a famous movie, especially the 2 terminator movies, which is what this film was based on, and definitely makes more sense than.
I think that it is pretty easily answered though with the information they give you in the movies. I don't really get what everyone is talking about with stable time loops or multiple godzillas, there is only one godzilla in godzilla vs king ghidorah.
The first one was woken up in the ocean from atomic bomb testing and then died.
Heisei godzilla was created, not woken up, by the atomic bomb testing on this island, and then the 2 movies in 1984 and 1989 happened, but then it was changed to godzilla being created in the ocean, which didn't change the events of either of those two movies.
But what changed it was that ghidorah was in the picture, thus them needed to recreate godzilla, but godzilla was already created, so it just gave him a huge power boost, and then sent him to destroy japan after he finished ghidorah.
Thus them need mecha king ghidorah in order to not have japan be destroyed in the future, which was going to happen since they talked about it in the future scene when they were recalling what had happened to japan.
So by having japan have mecha king ghidorah they now were able to fight against godzilla and the monsters, and also succeed in saving the world from burning godzilla.
So thats my explanation, and to me it makes perfect sense, it's just a little complicated.
The events in the past isn't complicated, just the events changed in the future.
I already explained why godzilla 1984-1989 is the same godzilla as the rest of the heisei era.
HANDS DOWN best Godzilla movie. I love this wacky film so much.
Hands down it's easily not even close to the best. It's just bad
@@xipetotek8366 your opinion. You don't respect mine so I don't respect yours😉
agreed, this movie was the first one i have ever watched and it’s honestly underrated
Another reasons for the flack the movie got in North America, was not just the depiction of the U.S. soldiers, but Japan's overly heroic depiction of the Imperial Army. Given this is the same Imperial Army that committed as many or more war crimes than the Nazi's, and Japan even to this day is notorious for sticking their head in the sand over Japan's conduct in WWII remains a point of contention. With the anti-Japanese sentiments over economics already in swing, and the fact many still held ill-will to Japan for WWII, it's little wonder all the hubub blew up as it did. Right or wrong; while I personally believe there was no Anti-U.S. intentions in the film; the overly sympathethic tone with the Imperial Soldiers was probably not a good taste for international audiences for the reasons listed above. A pity as those sentiments delayed many of us getting to enjoy the later Heisei Godzilla films until many years later instead of a localized release like the first two films.
Is it any different from the portrayl of America troops in Vietnam or Iraq?
There was a depiction of that moral denial in GMK, even if indirectly.
The fact that Gojira (1954) and Destoroyah are canon to the Heisei timeline alone is enough to prove the 2 Godzillas theory, I understood this as a kid, Return and Biollante still happen and are canon, I to this day have trouble understanding the confusion, but that's just me.
Two Godzillas isn't the issue, Toho confirmed that the original and heisei are different creatures.
The issue with the theory I talked about is that it involves a time loop. You ask 10 people how the time travel works in this movie, you get 10 different answers and some of those answers are just as convincing as the 2 I talked about. So regardless of how much sense the theory makes, it doesn't make it canon. For example, there are other scenarios where there isn't a time loop, but the events of 84 and Biollante took place, referencing those movies doesn't really prove anything.
@@BigActionBill It's also not really explained which Godzilla was the result of Lagos island Dinosaur being exposed to radiation, was it the 54 Godzilla or the 84 Godzilla? it has to be one of them, so where did the other one come from given that we know the 54 Godzilla existed and was killed by the Oxygen Destroyer?
Do you have a Patreon? I’d really love to support your channel and keep these vids going
That's nice of you to say, I don't have a Patreon, because I don't want this to become a job. But don't worry, I plan on making one for every Godzilla movie. It will just take me a long time lol. I might do that CZcams membership thing, but even then, I'd feel bad taking money from people as I don't have time to make content quickly.
I still think that the Futurians only cemented Godzilla's existence. They changed literally nothing but ensured that the 1984 Godzilla was created. Then, being exposed to nuclear radiation caused him to grow more powerful. It's literally the origin of Godzilla AND King Ghidorah, which makes it more poetic that he shares a backstory to his biggest rival.
One often meets his destiny on the path he takes to avoid it.
M-11's running is right out of Mike Jittlov's "The Wizard of Speed and Time." Gave me a good laugh the first time I saw GvKG.
Ya ghidorah from space is so much more interesting and it also shows how badass Godzilla is that something from another planet comes to challenge Godzilla
Well what I figured is that the time travel didn't create a time loop, it created a new timeline.
Because think of it, japan would never have had mechagodzilla, moguera, or the super x3.
What the time travelers did was teleport hesiei godzilla when he was a dinosaur, in the ocean, but since a nuclear submarine later crashed there, it still turned him into godzilla and all the events of 1984 to 1992 happened.
I could go into more detail, but thats just the short explanation.
Also the rule of time travel what they said was that two things can't be in the same time and place, meaning that it may be possible for them to be in the same time, but just not in the same place.
I would have loved being old enough and in Japan at the time to be asked to be in a Godzilla movie. I’d take my payment in a copy of the movie signed by all the Toho bigwigs.
That explanation is badass.
Godzilla is MCU Thanos through out the heisei era.
I'm never this early but, this ghidorah vs showa ghidorah. Who's winning?
Heisei Ghidorah is the most powerful live action ghidorah ever, so he wins.
Showa Ghidorah survived multiple fights against Godzilla through multiple movies. Heisei....didn't.
@@Capt.Twatbeard well...yes, but heisei ghidorah is a match for heisei godzilla and showa ghidorah is a bit more powerful than his godzilla and heisei godzilla is more powerful than showa godzilla(and any live action godzilla for that matter), so that means that ghidorah'91 wins.
Showa Ghidorah because space monsters are cooler
@@lewiscoates96 i don't want to start an argument because it's late now but i don't think he is the strongest ghidorah in live action, he is strong but i don't think he is the strongest.
I like the second explanation better than the one you had.
damn your videos are good. and in great depth.
M11 Forever!!!!!!!!!!! M11 changed my life!!!!! I named all my kids after him M12, M13 & M14!!! Thank you M11
Well, in Godzilla vs. Destoroyah we get the official confirmation that the Godzilla we follow in the Heisei films is the second of its kind as the whole plot of that film is a man trying to recreate Serizawa's original work in the Oxygen Destroyer which killed Godzilla in 1954. The first Godzilla as they say.
This was great timing, I was just thinking of watching this video
0:29 where did this clip come from? It's very creepy, I've had this fear when I was a child that a human sized godzilla might appear suddenly in our backyard and come inside our house.
The crazy thing is this only movie where Godzilla went from the hero to the villain.
And now the time travels even more crazy
I have a soft spot for King Ghidroah and Mecha King Ghidorah because I have that same toy. I also had no idea what the hell it was, other than the Godzilla branding on the box.
Sadly we will never get an answer from Kazuki Omori about the time travel plot as he passed last year... It is very much a shame he already passed especially considering it was due to cancer, even worse when you think of how many godzilla legends have died from cancer.
Makes me wonder if something on the sets caused their cancer because there is quite a few of them
I remember the movie, I watch that in cinema when I was 11, It’s the best King Ghidorah movie ever
It's all so timey-wimey, wibbly-wobbly.
Small correction! I'm not entirely sure where the story info for "Mothra vs. Bagan" at 4:14 comes from. Bagan was a "god of darkness" sealed away by a multitude of Mothra in ancient times due to his intense destructive nature against... pretty much everything. He breaks free of his frozen tomb due to global warming, and Mothra - referred to as the "guardian of the forests" - is tasked with bringing down the demon beast. I'd also argue this particular idea got pretty far, to the point where the draft script was given Tomoyuki Tanaka's blessings (and his signature)! I can only imagine he was keen on the idea due to Bagan being his brainchild.
Anyway, these videos are great. It's always fun to just listen to a video explain the history and trivia surrounding these movies. (Also, perfect pronunciation of "Bagan"!)
Actually that’s not true
@@booba2141 Which part?
@@SuperGodzillaGaming all of it.
@@booba2141 Gotcha.
"I am inevitable" roared Godzilla.
“ITS A DINOSAUR. A HUGE DINOSAUR IS ATTACKING OUR BOOOOOYS”
Another inconsistency was if the (at the time) nuclear weapons were more powerful and created a bigger more powerful Godzilla, why was King Ghidorah despite being created by weaker nuclear power still larger than Godzilla?
I guess because it's 3 monsters combining into one bigger monster.
Maybe because he was genetically engineered to specifically become more powerful.
@@samrizzardi2213 I know we have to give some grace when it comes to movies in general (and Sci fi movies in particular), but it's still Hella coincidence KG gree to over TWICE as tall as the original Godzilla despite getting hit with the same lesser amount of radiation. I'll grant you this; bigger ain't necessarily better. I have to acknowledge he couldn't beat this Godzilla whereas previous times, Godzilla needed help every time he faced Ghidorah.
@@tharukkus It could also be the fact that 3 individual monsters combined into one after being exposed to the atomic bomb. So it's not just one monster like with godzilla.
wow, this movie came out a month before I was born.
Personally, I reject most Godzilla retcons, or any idiotic plot introductions that contradict established canon. Evolution is one thing, but change for the sake of the plot is terrible.
8:18 *sobbing* that's such a fucking mood, kent...
You can watch it on CZcams for free too.
This will always be the 2 most powerful kaiju of all time. It's really an incredible rivalry between Godzilla and King Ghidorah. I would like a remake or toho film of these 2 fighting again.
"I'm not making a film about silly space monsters". Not sure there's a real difference of that and making a movie about silly time traveling monsters
This film is weird as hell and I love it.
Lmao the perfect American Psycho cut was awesome
Still this movie despite its flaws, is a better watch than final wars.
After I’ve binge watched all of the previous history videos, I noticed that Invasion of the Astro Monster takes place in the future of 199X something. Then here in the 19x something’s we get a movie about Ghidorah and time travel 😮
So many of these actors died of lung cancer or emphysema… Cigarettes are terrible