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Smart guy, our family relied on one of these for all of our water needs which included drinking, bathing, laundry, etc. We had a family of 10 and I can only remember our well going dry once. Bathroom was an outhouse, how things have changed.
excellent video. short and sweet, just enough talking and just enough showing how things are done. good job, thanks
This is a great video....smart guy....humble guy....funny guy....the people who gave 29 negative reviews (to date) need to seriously introspectively reevaluate their life's priorities.
42 idiot's joe Rogan drowned this video.
I say, thank you for your time and effort. Sub'ed
Why do you care.....
@@talusranch990 why do you ?
@@MrSmith-no5pg real original. Sometimes people don't like stuff. Maybe they thought the title was misleading or something. Not who i was talking to.....
@@talusranch990 wasn't going for original.
I was just commenting a question to you.
If you don't like something, set a good example and move on..
Now THIS was the vid I have been waiting for! Thanks for doing this vid...we have 3 wells, one has an old hand pump that doesn't work, one has a pump and bladder tank for the house and one is for irrigation. We have no idea about the old well with the hand pump, but the original house on the property (that we burned down a couple of years ago) was built in 1921...I saved the well pump. Now I have to dig around it and see it there is a casing down there somewhere.
I drilled 30 ft. With a pressure washer, cased the hole with 3" PVC, with perforations in the bottom 10ft. It took a while to clean up, but like you said, "it will keep my family alive" if need be.
As a kid we had one of these to water our animals. We had a square galvanized tub to hold water. In the summer I would go dump the tub and fill with cold well water and get in the tub. Man that was fun.
My grandmother had one of these beside the kitchen sink and a couple outdoors too. I pumped a lot of water with them.
You have very pleasant way of presenting information. I've learned alot
I just bought one of these pumps two weeks ago on sale for $40. Thanks for the timely info!
Great informative video! Tne only thing that I would add to your setup would be to tie a length of 1/4" nylon rope to the bottom section of pipe and then knot/tie it to each subsequent section above until you reach the top. You could leave it dangle out under your well cap or tie it to the pipe just under the cap. Should your PVC pipe break or become separated you can still lift all of the pipe up out of the casing.
use polypropylene made for well safety rope, better use stanless multi strand cable, Nylon is not permanent water proof long term, also dry rots over time. I use aircraft safty stainless wire run between to stakes longer than need cable the connect one end in drill and make my wire rope/cable
the bucket falling off the pump IS MY LIFE! hahaha
Old timer story here. I remember these as the primary source of water back in the day with two wells drilled, one outside for yard & agricultural usage/feeding livestock & one inside mounted above the kitchen sink on the counter. There would always be a bucket of water close by with a ladle for dipping to get you a drink & the rest to re-prime the pitcher pump with. Having to pump your own water actually gave people character not having every essential at their fingertips & having to work the land for sustenance. Reflecting back on that lifestyle, this is why I have issues with the whiners of today wanting everything for nothing & instant gratification. I didn't grow up necessarily this hard but we knew hard times & when my generation is gone, the next will have no idea what it actually takes to survive in stressful times. I wish this foo-foo new age era the best of luck,, they're gonna need it.
+Ro'ber Harpane' We still use them everyday in Plymouth Ma. One thing to keep in mind every time you buy a pitcher pump from Lowes or Home depot you are buying one made in china it is best to buy ones made in America not only are they made 100% better they last for years and.... well "no pun" they are made here!
Ro'ber Harpane' I'm just 20 but I understand what you're saying. I grew up without all those "great" things. We use everything for it's worth. Then modified it to work for something else. Kept doing that till most times it was completely useless. One house we lived in was an older one and you could watch the window blinds blow around. It took a week's worth of news paper but I was warm then. 10 years later and still working great too!
EXACTLY!
The video is great. You should tell them about flipping the seal in winter to let the water drain back down the pump. It means you have to prime every day but your pump don't freeze up because the water drains back into the well.
I think the foot valve would prevent it from draining back down regardless of check valve in the pump.
With the foot valve installed it still wouldn’t drain unless you go down below the frost line and drill about an 1/8” weep hole in the side of the pipe.
I didn't see any muddy water when the pump was 1st set up. Guess the bottom was already used. Nice job.
Thanks so much for sharing your knowledge. I just ordered a pump exactly like this from ebay. I will go look for the extra gaskets from Lowe's.
Take your grinder and grind down each side of the water slide, so you can place the metal handle of the bucket and set the handle into the slots you grinded so the bucket is locked in the slots and won't fall off the water slide.
Nice job. Glad I watched bcuz I forgot about the vacuum limitation. My well is 300 feet down and I wasn't sure how I'd get my water in a shtf scenario.
this man knows his business. GREAT video.
Good information....I'm doing a shallow well for the first time...I'm having trouble pulling water up from the WellPoint. My point is 17' to the bottom. I had to put my garden hose down to the point to flush it out....when I did this, the water came up the pipe and was muddy for a minute or so, then fairly clean. Then I would raise my garden hose up and as I did this the water would not stay in the pipe. At this time I figure the WellPoint is all clean as I cannot keep the water in the pipe. I drop a string with a weight down to about 11' and hit the top of the water. Then drop it down to the bottom witch is another 6'. (When I bring the string up it is wet from the bottom up to 6'). I hook up a 1.5 hp flotec pump, prime the pump, but it won't pull the water up. I tried the pump several times but no luck. Any thoughts or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
+dave cantone A well will take what it will give so if your water is coming out over the top with a garden hose then you are not producing much water when you put the well in did you use teflon tape and as liquid thread compound and tighten it up good with a couple stilson wrenches?
+Rick sounds to me like your well screen is in very tight material clay like almost !
Prime to use. Remove prime when done. When I was a kid we had one at Gramma's. To remove prime, you lift the handle all the way up, like to pump, then down about 4 inches, then back up - repeat several times. This allows the water to drop, and removes the prime. I do not know if Gramma's had the check valve on the very bottom like this does, or not. I DO know that if you don't let the prime down, it will freeze, damaging the pump, . . . not to mention what Gramma will do to ya!
Thanks for this tip ill keep it in mind for my pump!
Someone wasn't paying attention in physics class. You can't suck water from more than 34 feet below the pump, because the pump creates a vacuum, and air pressure actually pushes the water up to the pump to fill the vacuum. You can however, push the water as far ABOVE the pump as the design allows. That's why modern deep water wells have the pump, WAY down in the ground, usually at the bottom of the well, or close to it. Because you cannot beat a law of physics. You have to work with/around them.
Thank you! I didn't think there would be much of a "vacuum" under the pump, but had to ask. Learning a lot!
Thanks for the great video! A foot valve though that holds the water in the pipe between pumpings is not recommended for cold climates. If the water freezes in the upper part of the pipe it won't work, plus it could burst the pipe.
That’s why you drill an 1/8th” weep hole in the section just below freeze line
TheKYnyts & otis991000, For a deep well you need a SUBMERSIBLE pump, it goes down IN the well casing itself. Engineer 775 said you can't SUCK water farther than 34', deeper than that you need to PUSH the water up the pipe. Our family was in the electric motor/pump rewinding & repair business since 1960. You're right about the pump being much more expensive, as it takes a highly specialized motor to fit into the casing and still have enough power to push the weight of the water up the pipe.
Very good video!!! Best I've seen on hand water pumps. Thank you!
Thank You Engineer775 for your videos!
simpler the better, I've made my own gaskets cut out of rubber, I like the old time pitcher pump mounted on the kitchen sink.
I think you gotta put some kind of steady base around the tubing on the ground to keep it steady and support it so it will pump out the water more steadily and constantly .....we had this back home in the Philippines And its super and we still have them to this day..... you just got to boil the water at times when you think it's not safe to drink like during the times of extreme flooding from a storm and during hurricanes....otherwise we use for everything abundantly..
Gotta love that quick clamp we went through two of those in 10 years daily use!! we had an old RIGID # 25 before that!
ts733049-container.zoeysite.com/kwik-klamp $250!
Thanks for this, I have been wanting to put one in but a plumber wanted to charge me $1500. I certainly can do this myself.
Thanks again
you can get your well water tested. but generally yes, well water is safe to drink.
Whell pitcher pumps are generally made of cast metal’s and the pump cylinder’s are not machined to a great polish it’s advisable to run an automotive piston honing stone in your pump to give it a smother surface for the cup & gasket to operate on to prolong the life of them.
Thank you! Very informative and useful.
Strong words from someone who has nothing of value to share on CZcams. You need to show a bit more respect toward your host. He is sharing what he knows for free.
probably been said before, but you could weld a small horn to the pump so the bucket doesn't slide off. bit of paint to touch up. could make the risk of wasting water that little bit less
If you use a foot valve it will freeze so you would have to take precautions against that. I think they make a manual release dump valve that you could install inline with the PVC several feet below grade that would work.
Loving the video Scott, keep um coming
it looks like a longer handle would indeed be nice, but also a longer spout so the base of the pump isnt pushing the bucket off its own bucket handle catch. you might could find a led pipe or some similar length of tube that'd fit over your handle.
You COULD tee off before your main pump, and use the existing pipe and footvalve. I would also think about securing the base so you're not flexing the standpipe.
Thanks for posting this,
I have a question these work great in warmer weather but we live in Northern Idaho where it can get really cold with lots of snow, Do you have any suggestions about keeping these from freezing?
Again thanks much
+Eileen Simpson the best and most efficient way is to unthread your pitcher pump in the winter and take it inside if you need to use it thread it back on pump it up use it and take it back in when done! If you leave water in a pitcher pump... even a little in the pump it will freeze and crack . I've seen it happen way to many times to count . Or set it up in a heated barn or something like that !
RJ Actually, your supposed to flip the seal. This lets the water drain back into the well after every use. You have to reprime when you use the pump but at least it doesn't freeze.
Do not use a foot valve....
The pump has a built in leathet check valve to hold the prime....
Raising the handle all the way will open the check valve and allow the water to go back down the well an prevent freezing..
Pump must be primed and released each time you use it in the cold weather...
that pipe is good on your back... but it will freeze and burst in the winter... you could sleeve it with a 3 or 4in pipe and stuff it with insulation
I like this series very much, thanks
Thank you, I have a well I want to start using and this has been very informative.
What should you do to prepare for freezing weather
Ill check it out. When I replaced the well pump, I think it was about 80 feet.
@ 8:26 And THAT'S why that style of pliers is called "pump pliers"!
9:52. Great video. I learned a great amount
For the life of me i cant get my new pitcher pump to work. The old one waa a antique. Anyways. I tested it b4 installing it by using a scrap 3 foot pipe in a bucket of water. It worked great. Once i install it in pipe in ground it wont draw at all. Primed it. Even filled water pipe full of water. Still no go. It gets super tight?
I used a piece of twine with metal weight and pipe goes down 21 feet to bottom.
Scott, I liked the way you break down all the parts needed. Please do this with the simple lever arm pump. Do you have both the pitcher pump and the simple pump at the house.
I am new at this and need a parts break down with the simple pump.
Also where did you buy the metal cap in this video.
What would you suggest for a deeper well? At my parents house they had to drill down through the 100' of hill and then some to the water table. I very much desire to have a manual opperation attached in case of an extended power outage. Is there a manual option available?
Now that's a great idea. I'll start tomorrow. lol
When evaluated by a well service company, our water was 18 feet below the ground level where we were standing. They determined that the bottom of the well was 100 feet, so 82 feet of water. You said that the hand pump can pump from 33 feet depth or less. So, here is my question, maybe a dumb question. Would the 18 feet of space (from surface to water) be included in the 33 feet? Then the pipe would drop up to 12 or so feet below the current water level?
Yes, that would work just fine! As long as you’re below the water level is all that matters if it’s 34’ or less. So you’re being 12’ below would be great.
Looking good buddy and thanks for sharing.
I am sorry for asking a dumb question, just a question about can you just dig a new hole 30’ deep in your yard? Is what you showing us how to use your Existing well, from your house well?
Good Video
Could you talk about pitcher pump care/maintaince in the winter? I live where it get to 0 degrees and want to know what to do with this type of pump.
Great video, as we have come to expect.
thanks sorry about last comment was going on your responses to other questions again thanks for getting back so quick
no problem. I deserved it. I just can't catch up.
If this Country should Fold Up, a Outside Pitcher Pump would be a Great Thing--as a Boy in Arkansas, I was Raised Using a Pitcher Pump and it was Great Cold Water...
how about converting the linear power to rotary power, maybe bicycle power just like a simple pump?
Extent your casing and mount pump on top , looks better , more ridged, also just glue pvc fittings together , female pvc adaptors tend to crack, glued joints make better seals too, no seepage .
144/8.34/7.45 = 2.31
8.34X7.45 is the weight of 1 cu ft of water. if you imagine a cube 12 in on a side, there are 144 sq inches on a face. Hence the static pressure of 1 ft of water is the weight of a cubic ft of water / 144.
That is very nice. But what do you use if the water on your property is 140+ feet underground.
can you please do a motorised pump video?
If pump is sitting for months in summer how do you re-prime it? Do you have to get the weathers to swell again? Also what do you do in the winter?
So my regular well is 130 feet deep. If the electric goes out, I need to be able to give my horses water. So how close/where do you put this in the ground and what if the ground is really hard?
Great video, very informative. Thanks!
Thanks! We have an old well that appears to be a clay pipe. In addition, the pipe is a little below ground level (6”). How would I extend the pipe up to above ground level to set the lid? Thank you!
I have not read all the comments but here is my question: I am thinking of installing one of these on a dug well. I live in NE Canada and wonder how to "winterize" this kind of set-up. I am assuming just remove the pump and store for the winter??? Thanks.
I have a pump just like that, it just stopped pumping water 3 days ago. Hasn't been up for a year, any idea on what's the problem?
Very nice guy sharing a nice video.
Okay...how does the freezing temperatures affect the pump? Is there winter preparations that should be performed for freezing temperatures?
FOR THE QUESTION ABOUT THE 2.31 FT THAT IS A FORMULA USED IN WATER FOR EVERY 2.31 FT OF WATER IT EQUALS 1PSI OF PRESURE OR FOR OR 1 FOOT OF WATER EQUALS .433 PSI. THE SAME ANSWER JUST TWO DIFFERENT WAYS TO COME UP WITH THE SAME NUMBERS. EITHER IN PSI OR FEET !!!
In order
Why did you multiply the atmospheric pressure (14.696 psi) by 2.31 in order to figure out the maximum pomp power suction ? What does 2.31 represent ? Thanks for information .
great vid. it filled in a lot of holes after watching a lot of other videos. can you go into detail on sealing the casing to keep ground water out? i think you mentioned clay in another video, but i don't know where to get that or know what it is sold as. i was actually thinking about gravel to about a foot or two from the surface and then pouring cement as a seal, but i haven't seen this issue addressed, so i don't know if that would be good. thanks for the videos
tho this probablly won't get answered, i'll try anyway. used a well point with 1 3/4 iron pipe. presently showing 25 inches when i put the tape down in it with 23 feet of pipe in the ground, but has shown as much as 39 inches. am i 1 going to have to back fill my pipe with water, and 2 if not will it draw it to the pitcher pump thank you
You will need to prime the pump each time by filling the pump.
What would one need to dig their own well ? Where would one start ?
Also does it have a anti freeze drain so it doesnt freeze in the winter?
What happens when you have below freezing weather? Want your pipes bust?
If you add multiple check valves, it could be a lot easier to draw water from deeper well.
+Mon S No infact two check valves in the same line is a very bad idea ! they are still opening at the same time and drawing from the same depth
I got a problem. My well here in Arizona, My well is 853 feet deep, dug by an oil rig as a demonstration. The static water is around 400 feet, and the water comes out at 53 degrees and slightly carbonated. The pump that is on it is a 3-phase pump. 1,500 gallon tank. BIG question is, how do I get water without electricity?!? Please help if you can.
The house I just moved in to has a well I do not know how deep it is is the water level always at the 33 ft I guess what I'm asking is will this work on all wells thanks for all your help.
These are Chinese-made, pumps , leathers wear out in abt a year, interior cylinder is very rough hence lots of wear on leathers leading to early failure, must cycle every month to keep leathers wet. Alternative , make leathers from rubber gasket material, they last 10x longer than leather, for my SHTF water, I dc’d the pitcher pump for a PVC hand-made pump bc of the scarcity of metal kits, repair kits with shipping cost are as much as buying a new pitcher pump ,available metal kits are from the same Chinese pump mfg, a kinda Catch 22. Pumps made in USA, as well as hardware, if you can find one, are much more expensive. Good Luck!
Thanks for a great video!
If I put 100ft of pvc down with a foot valve at the bottom
but the water level is at 15ft would the pump consider the water level at 15ft? I pulled an electric pump up from a ridiculous distance but I would like to have the water from that lower footage.
very good video! but what do you ask for when you want someone to drill your well for you? do you just say I want to put in a hand pump on the well? thank you for your answer
Is the cap used strictly for mounting or is it necessary to create a sort of air lock? I have an ancient "open" well probably 3 ft diameter; planning to mount the the hand pump on a piece of wood spanning the opening, so there will be open space around it. Top of water level is only about 14 feet down, so I won't need much PVC. BTW, Harbor frieght had a few pumps in my local store at about $25, don't even know if it works yet (have found many times they have "faulty" products). Great info!
so a submersible pump for deep wells.........and a hand pump for swallow wells....what about a non power grid reliant solution for a deep well any ideas on that engineer 775?
Im in south central texas and my well has been inactive for over 10 years. Its fairly deep 2500 feet last I remember BUT it needs to go deeper to get to the good clear water. we got iron and sulpher when it was operational. My question is, can I set up a well pump to push the water up and into a shallow holding tank buried in the ground then when necessary be able to pump from that tank? There are no shallow wells around this area less than a thousand feet.
just wondering where to find a WELL cap like the one you used...........and also about the possible freezing issue .......
Im in northern Michigan. Im putting in galvinize pipe cause I already have a 5 ft sand point. This is mainly for garden. my house is all set. I am on edge of swamp, and near a spring stream that dries up late summer. I hit standing water 3ft below surface but plan to go down 12 to 15 ft total. I was told to put chk valve up by pump with a drain plug installed just belowe to let water out for winter. Also told (by someone else) to put it just above sandpoint and for winter just displace the water with a 1 1/2 inch pvc with a cap. Stick it in to chk valve or the 12 to 15 ft Im thinkin on goin with pipe. Which do you think is best option? Also Do I really need it seeing Im only down at most 15 ft. If not at which depth would you suggest a check valve? Thanks Nice vid.
My well was drilled hundreds of feet deep. does that mean that the water is 100 feet down, or is it possible that the water level has risen to the >34 foot level?
thank you for this very informative video
Thank you for sharing your knowledge about it.
Great video. Can you please provide the clamp manufacturing name and where to buy it. Thank you.
I have a 2” well that is 60’ in total depth. The static water level is 25’. The recovery rate is 7GPM. Do you think I can make this work?
Where do you find out how Deep your water or well is.
Cool project 😎
Is there a small solar pump that could used for someone who doesn't have the strength or arthritis?
Nice work
I have a question or two if you don't mind.....like 50 years ago my grandfather buried a 1" pipe, no casing, reached water, went ten feet below, capped it off at the ground, walked away from it, and could never find it again. I found it 10 years ago. The water table is at 18'. My question is, with the aid of a reducer can I use this make shift well with a hand pump going from 1 1/4 inch from the pump down to 1 inch to the exposed cap?
yes.
+engineer775 Practical Preppers Great. thanks
Awesome 👍 learning so much from you ❤️