You Are Falling For Their Trick: If Your Friends Jumped Off A Bridge, Would You Jump Too?
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- čas přidán 30. 05. 2024
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Peer pressure has never worked on me. I've never cared about following what's "cool" and as I get older, I care even less about what people think.
If I worked with you, or just knew you personally, I would very wary of you if you openly believed this. Everyone is influenced or swayed in someway. Even if it was a theoretical 95% independence. Even Jocko is influenced in someway, be it through his military experience, his personal circles, his upbringing, or unknown manner. To believe you are above it all shows a dangerous lack of self-awareness.
@@williamsmith00 I'm not saying that others have absolutely no influence on me, but I'm not one to go along with trends or agree with everyone else, just because the group seems to believe a certain thing. I don't buy stuff because of brand names or celebrity endorsements, but instead, for what is a good value for the money. If someone I respect as a subject matter expert (not a paid sports idol or TV actor) recommends something, sure, I'll take that under advisement but I'll still do my own research.
I don't believe that you or anyone else has sufficient information to judge my "self awareness" based on a simple comment, but I thank you for your apparent concern.
I'm the exact same way. I despise those people who try to call me to the side and advertise something. I especially hate it when they set up at the entrance. I feel no guilt in blowing them off. Screw them.
Me watching this video realizing I try to emulate literally every part of Jocko's personality and value system because he's one of the men I have the most respect for on their entire planet
Then that means you lost yourself.
@@MadeMan762 no, not even close. It means I'm paying attention to myself. I know that I have deficiencies and strive to correct them.
Jocko speaks directly at them. I listen, and I do my best to act habitually
@@bigollie006 did you not have a Dad to teach you right from wrong or something?
@@MadeMan762 no, I did not have a dad.
Are you arguing against seeing a value system you agree with based upon lived experience and trying to emulate it? If so, why is that an issue?
The issue is that he's not realistic to emulate. Unless you live his life, you cannot successfully emulate him. You can copy him in some scenarios, but you cannot emulate him
One aspect of social contagion I fall for is that CZcamsrs make it sound like certain trends will happen overnight when in reality you'll take a decade.
The problem with having open mind, of course, is that people will insist on coming along and trying to put things in it.
Sir Terry Pratchett
Discworld goes so hard
@@rowan4371 especially in these times, isn't? Like Pratchett have forseen the madness in our "discworld" full of flatearthers
That's a good one
@@rowan4371 forgot about that 😂
Someone who is your friend or at least cares about you would never encourage you to do something that could potentially get you hurt or in trouble.
Real life isn’t so black and white as all that. You have done plenty of things that have had adverse and unintended effects on other people, perhaps even potentially harmful; we all have.
There’s always “potential”. I could ask you to go and get me a burger from a place and you could get hit by a car on your way to do it. You wouldn’t have been out there had I not asked you to be, but it’s not like it was planned.
So instead of the word “potentially” I’d use “intentionally”, and what you’ve said would then be true.
Are you kidding? Maybe in an after school special... 😂😂😂
Yes! They'd definitely do that! Not intentionally thought. Just because THEIR suggestions are only based on THEIR life experience which is not necessarily yours too and thus stuff that works for them, doesn't work in your situation which seems similar at the surface but comes from a totally different place internally.
@Veera Well yeah from one point of view if you make up rules as you go along and then not even follow the rules you make up. However if you threaten suicide or self harm you will end up in an involuntary psychiatric commitment which is a fact. It may be my opinion that it usually (but not always) is worse then jail or prison; which is an opinion based on that fact.
I think the point is that we are all susceptible to being swayed with respect to morality and ethics in our desire to fit in. Your statement might be correct in principle, but if your friends’ values and standards are compromised, they may encourage you to do something terribly detrimental to your well being and think they are helping you.
Jocko ... you are a remarkable, unique man. What a blessing that you are speaking to all of us. God bless you. Thank you for your content.
Busted a gut when Jocko says he would be devastated if some1 was able to advertise successfully to him and talk him to a a vacuum trimmer. Lmao
What we carry in our heart has a tendency to spill outwards when we are most stressed. Therefore, it should be noted that we can be pushed past our limits however unbearable and maintain our relationship with our most cherished idea just the same as we can falter with a limiting belief . We can do much more than we think we can. Being open to possibilities is key, but staying disciplined is even more crucial.
These lessons and your book make me an exponentially better leader. From one Mustang to another, thank you brother.
Which book please
@@Iron_Willed Extreme Ownership. Highly recommend the audio version, him and Leif Babin read it.
It seems the free-thinkers have shown themselves during the pandemic. Those who took a stand that opposed the crowd, the gov’t stances that didn’t make sense, and the endless barrage of the “experts” at the risk of losing jobs are the ones we should be paying attention to the most. They were proven right in nearly every case because they detached, looked at the bigger picture, and used common sense to prevent being caught up in the wave of emotion. Those people were called the worst things, potentially even threatened, and didn’t bat an eye. We need more people like this.
Our filthy gvt has been torturing and killing our helpless pets and loved ones, using our devices. Many yrs ago, my little short haired blk and tan mini doxy started having violent seizures every month. We took him to vet aftervet and they gave him meds that didn't help. I changed his diet, changed his water, and nothing helped. Sometimes the seizures were so bad he almost died, and we had to rush him to the vets to save his little life. I always cried and prayed when he had these seizures, because it hurt me so deeply to see my baby suffer so bad. Well, about a yr ago, my husband and I were sitting here in our living room and we heard his cell ph make a strange, hi pitched but quiet noise it never made for any reason, and IMMEDIATELY my dog started having seizures! I have been targeted over 30 yrs and never thought that the sick freaks could be deliberately CAUSING the seizures, BUT THEY WERE! I couldn't believe that someone could be so heartless and cruel that they could do such a horrific thing to a helpless little dog!! But they DID! The seizures stopped that day, and a week later my babydog went BLIND. I was heartbroken AGAIN, to see my bay walk into walls, fall down stairs (till we blocked them) and get lost behind a door or the couch!! HEART BREAKING!! His little organs swelled up inside of his belly, and the vet said it was his pancreas. My baby got very sick a couple weeks before Thanksgiving. He was vomitting, had the runs, and refused to eat for me. He was being SHOCKED every hour, night and day, and neither of us could get much sleep. I busted agents AGAIN, using the speakers on this PC to put out FREQUENCIES, hurting my little boy! I unplugged the speakers and then busted them again, using the built in speakers to emit these dangerous frequencies!! I shut down the pc and could still hear a high pitched whine coming directly from the MONARCH TOWER LLC across the street! My baby got so sick he couldn't even lift up his little head anymore and he died in my arms THANKSGIVING DAY about 4pm. I AM HEARTBROKEN and I miss my babydog terribly! THE SICK FREAKS TORTURED AND KILLED HIM just as the had the three prior to him before I realized what they were doing to us!! They are doing these horrific things to HURT US. They are sick satanist freaks who ENJOY hurting helpless, innocent people and animals that cannot defend themselves! Let me also say that they tested other bioweapons on us as well, which cost the life of my longhaired doxy, and nearly cost my life as well, a couple yrs ago. The sick freaks have put nanotech systems in the shots, masks, tests and swabs, and then using the towers to manipulate and control those systems inside the victims. They are also CAUSING inf, disease, organ damage and death w frequencies! WATCH YOUR DEVICES and keep vol low or off and never sleep near any devices!! These sick freaks MUST be stopped! They are deliberately killing us and our loved ones. This is ALL deliberate!
Um,..yeah right. A lot of anti-mask idiots died slow horrible deaths on ventilators due to BS low brow non-science they heard on social media LoL! Was there some overreaction for geographic areas of lower oblations density concerning the absolutism about mask wearing.,sure,.
but a whole lot of DEAD folks are toe tagged because they ignored science over their own persona need to feel like hero of personal liberty or some other BS ,.LoL!
Almost seems as if it was a “trial” run for something much bigger, much worse, with the intent of using the system to put “resistance” in a place where they show themselves. We already know they have lists….
Thank you!
You look at things, then you ask "is this really the case?". Then you try to figure out, and usually you find things that doesn't match up. It also helps to remember what happened yesterday and previously, because then you definitely will find things to be illogical. It is not free thinking. It is thinking - period. Start to learn to read research and you will be surprised what the truth is. Almost everything that media, and the media experts put out is blatant lies. Media is so bad, if someone told me that sports events are arranged theatre with pre-planned winners, I can almost believe that. The censorship has become pretty bad, unless you know the links, it is hard to make search engines give you them.
Definitely middle school for me when i started smoking weed. ( not anymore being nearly 40) I think how the home is to each individual because it was for me. Troubled household situation. Then we merge together to support eachother in a weird way. Like family. Not many of us had people to look up too. We eventually learn getting older. Have a great weekend boys
"The power of suggestion" I didn't see that, brilliant. Add in a little sales pitch/hook. Your feeling depressed, "Aren't you". The puppet masters haven't held power for 1,000s of years from being dumb. Its always easer to attack than defend. In Bugei Samurai Arts attack the attack. All "they" have to do is keep us busy so we don't see the next hammer/jab/z-bugz ect. good-one!
I submit people to incorporate the sigma personality type to first separate from the collective consciousness. Then above all else, transcend the ego altogether. It's sole purpose is an interface between your inner world and the outer world, and like your own personal AI, it downloads information to help you survive. The only way out of the conditioning is to individuate. Connect with your soul through meditation. Go within. It's the only escape. Many blessings for this information. We are out here trying to help set the masses free. 🖖🏾
I truly believe that if more people were placed into Leadership Roles earlier in life; and they continue along that path; all of the “Group Think” or social Pressure on the subject in the world won’t bend the will of that youth who was exposed to a Leadership lifestyle…
New marketing campaign to get Jocko on board. “if someone pulls that off I’ll probably be devastated.” 🤣💯
Lol. There’s a Jocko interview somewhere on the Internet where Jocko crosses his legs and sits a certain way and the host mimics him. Jocko then repositions himself. It’s hilariously obvious.
With people putting ideas into peoples heads: What about where people knowingly use false evidence to convince others to go to war and kill people, with hundreds of thousands of innocent people getting killed and injured in the process? What's your thoughts on that Jocko?
Great words and wisdom...👍👏
These are some fundamental concepts. I don’t remember if I learned these in high school but I don’t think that I did. I think I only came across them in independent learning. Stuff everyone should know. I’m glad you are sharing.
The worst is when people try to exploit you're principles to get a reaction or to get under you're skin.
You say it all without saying it all so well. Genius thanks for your help
Thank you jacko
dude you hit the nail on the head...you did your homework... well done
awesome how you gave those definitions
especially
"universality"
Who remembers Jacko putting it on Putin. Thought the war was going stop there and then. 😂
Thanks ❤
Social contagion... AKA "influence."
your ''Real'' friends, will continue to be in contact with you through out your life. They check in to see how you're doing. And are transparent. vise versa. It's hard to explain how not to go down a bad path, right? I can comment all I want but experience will teach you some shit. And those experiences aren't pretty and are extremely exhausting. Young teens reading these comments. Please don't be peer pressured. Drugs and Alcohol will ruin your life. Go the other way with courage. Because your life life will fly by so fast and now your old and wasted your life. Listen to Jocko! and apply what he teaches. love you Jocko.
Robert Cialdini calls it 'Social Proof's. The first person gives, by their behaviour, permission to behave in the same way....
Mirroring is possible on all levels-physically, mentally and emotionally.
Excellent, thank you! This group think, ect. is also seen in churches.
My mom HATED it when I acted like one of my friends. She was adamant about me being myself and “fuck keeping up with the Jonses.”
Jocko:PEOPLE ARE SMOKING CLOVEEEES!.HAHAAHAHAHA
Tell them you go first, and see if they do.... They won't....
You have described your politicians, exactly.
"they might not have been in your AO"
Bro 😂
You two are hilarious - from both perspective. Mahalo
"If you listen to fools, the mov rules. "
Jocko has been sold. We've all been sold.
GOD *** THE AUTHORITY AND CREATOR ****
🎶”BACK…ON THE MAAAP!”🎶
Hundred percent spot on
Bruh xD you were sheltered.. been smokin since summer grade 8!! Brother introduced me to it !
MEANINGWAVE EXISTS!!
Bless !
I got turned on to smoking weed at ten years old. I thank my drug attic aunt for that. But I complied.
24 years sober now.
So easy to get caught up in what everyone else is doing.
I think the black and white picture is so much more powerful and impactful. Just an opinion love these podcast regardless of the picture.
This is my main argument against people who say we need to "harden" our schools against school shooters because armoring a school is almost like saying its expected that someone would attack it. It almost subconsciously normalizes the act.
What? People guard all kinds of things that are important to them. Are you suggesting that children are not important enough to guard because: why would anyone harm them?
@@jeremybrimmer1990 idk tbh. Whether we should or shouldn't isnt my point. All I'm saying is that doing so will in a sense normalize the idea that it's going to be attacked. Idk if that makes sense I feel like I can't quite articulate this phenomena precisely enough.
@@Laocoon283 you beg the question: does making things unguarded make them in a sense no longer a target?
@@jeremybrimmer1990 My line of thinking is they were unguarded for many many years without any problems. I think the media coverage is what drives these to keep happening not the fact that they are soft targets. It reminds me of when the media stopped reporting on teen suicides cause it inspired to many copy cats.
@@Laocoon283 true. Garbage in garbage out. Interesting. Thank you.
You are who you surround yourself with is as concise as it gets
Tell that to Jordan Peterson lol 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 lmfao not true. Slippery slope.
@@liberty6380 I dont get your point... The 5 people you spend the most time communicating with are going to be a pretty good representation of who you are. The only reason you wouldn't be able to understand that is if it bothers you bc you arent who you want to be.
@@HMuny55I've been spending most of my time with my dog what's that say about me lol
Ciladini referred to something similar as "social proof". We tend to look towards others to determine what is normal behavior. One needs to stay aware and not fall into the trap of herd mentality most especially when those that understand the concept and are in authority positions are looking to mold mass behavior for personal benefit at the expense of others. "Influence" The psychology of persuasion. I highly recommend it.
Social proof is a psychological and social phenomenon wherein people copy the actions of others in choosing how to behave in a given situation. The term was coined by Robert Cialdini in his 1984 book Influence: Science and Practice, and the concept is also known as informational social influence.
there are more ways to be killed than just losing your life. People who want to die have been killed already in a different way. Having a purpose is heavy, dangerous sometimes, but always necessary.
Very well said
This discussion is so very important for high school aged young men.
Use your mental LEGS and get away from the bad influences....
Marketing includes everything about your business from sales to logistics, accounting, HR, and more.
Absolute truth
Depends on what's on the bridge
My biggest successes in my life have been from my natural propensity to go against the grain while checking myself with a lot of critical thinking. There is a lot of dumb shit going on because it’s what everyone is doing it. I often wonder if we would be better off valuing humility, wisdom and experience as much as we value fame, confidence and education.
If we're being literal...
My friends are Engineers and Rangers.
If they are jumping off a bridge, I assume they know, or see something I don't.
I'm not asking any questions; I'm jumpin'.
I wouldn't jump after either of those. Engineers is incredible stupid people(I work with such beings). Engineers does not read facts or research. When an engineer is building a bridge, there is no brain cells active in that process. Just ask them why they do things the way they do - the #1 answer is "I don't know". They are expert liars. They can come up with a word salad that is hard to fact check, but once you have dig through you will conclude it is just worthless ramblings. If an engineer says "lets jump", then he will be ok - you will definitely not be ok in any way shape or form. And the worst part is that it is intentional.
Rangers? Did you watch black hawk down? 100 idiots fly into a city with 1000s of bad guys and land in the midst of it, and hope it will be ok. It didn't. Rangers has to be on that level of stupidity in order to do their stuff. I think the default ranger mission is a guarantee to be body bagged. The goal of the rangers is to make the enemy realise that they are up against total maniacs. The worst part is that the line to become a ranger(I want to jump of that bridge too, it looks awesome) is insane long, so loosing a ton of people isn't really a concern for the general.
Aware. My friends were the Commandant's & CNO's driver's\body guards, Air Crash Recovery and the sort...
At this point no regrets only lessons learned, plenty the hard way.
I respect your position. Fair winds and following seas.
I guess this doesn't apply to BASE jumping 😂😂 Great topic tho! Powerful message
That's what I always think when people use the bridge cliche lol.
Are we going to sit around telling lies or we going to make some skydives.
Actors become like their roles
Advertising jujitsu next thing you know Jocko is dancing around spilling ice cold zimas all over the place XD
Maybe this is what’s happening with all this trans stuff we’re seeing. It wouldn’t bother me if it wasn’t being forced on children. I wouldn’t mind seeing “don’t ask don’t tell” make a comeback. 🤔 Thanks for the video guys. Stay blessed. 🇺🇸👍🏽
would you say that a way to make sure that your thoughts are your own, would be say to get the "thing" you want and not posting it on social media, or trying not to? If you do feel the need post it, did you want it for the right reasons... I feel that is a good test to see if you are really interested in the thing, or even place you want to go visit.
No, but in the words of Malcom Young and Bon Scott, when I get to hell , MY FRIENDS ARE GOING TO BE THERE TOO
Welcome to SOCIAL MEDIA.
Not again!
A Few Simple Rules- Just becuz yur Friends do it don't mean U Should, Don't get A Bozo pregnant... Lolol
Question everything. Trust only those you know personally, who've earned it. "I am the wisest man because I know that I know nothing." - Socrates
45 years str8edge. But I’m not an arrogant asshole, haha. To each his own.
'If Your Friends Jumped Off A Bridge'
As an adult, I question the person that assumes that friends jump off bridges, and keep themselves alive after it.
Did they play like that back in the day? Wild.
Jocko for president 2024
AT Ease....
Who was it that said a person is smart but people are stupid. Might have even been from a movie.
How do you deal with random ppl grabbing clips from these incredible discussions to profit?
The only reason I caught on was from a random shorts channel (which gave me pause since I wasn't related to the channel). This made their story rather suspect. Sure, I ended up here after doing some research. You've exhibited a lot of truth which confirms that these other people don't deserve anything in comparison for your work. Not sure how it all works but I just wanted to voice that random channels shouldn't be able to get like on your behalf
I want to see my family...#lonely and sad....I pray they are ok.....its difficult to not know why I am being kept in the dark like this.
Jesus bless you Jocko, your unique ways have built a servant who blesses us.
Its a starter package for the WEAK...
Generally my perspective is military trained people are the most likely to take orders and not stand for individualism but group think.
Military mindset limits rights and while its needed to be free it shouldn't be part of the freedom within peaceful societies.
Putting issues like self harm in TV shows for adolescents, and hey presto ...
Thanks Dad ❤
The idea getting placed there according to mental health institutions constantly report that it doesn't increase the risk of suicide. Already considering suicide is the issue. The highest predictor is easy access to highly potent forms of suicide i.e. guns, high buildings or bridges with no guards.
This episode should be the #1 podcast on all charts right now.
I was in the military, of course I'm jumping too!
one small step for man ,one giant leap for mankind
I have spent a lot of time thinking about this subject. I've been very close to the edge many times. , I was a professional climber for many years and have done many risky backcountry adventures. So I am no novice around heights and gravity. NO, When two bros decide to up their game to a high level (follow them) maybe at the wrong moment is something i've avoided mostly. That is not the time to "jump off the bridge" unless you both are great bridge jumpers. IS it sacrifice or is it being a sheep? Idk. YEt, the brotherhood of risky adventures do end in death at times and I'v e found that Americans are really ignorant or fearful of death and blow off how important life is becasue of bravado.
But extend this thought to people close to suicide, , the folks who have lost it all and have nothing left to lose. Tapping out, us folks who have been pushed out or lost out, whatever it may be. Thinking we won't be missed or that we will not make the same mistake again. We have failed. Sudden death is actually complex and is most of the time, tragic. Not always, but often, especially with the young. Don't be easily influenced.
What if you are aware but decide to not question?
If Your Friends Jumped Off A Bridge, Would You Jump Too? No, because my friends wouldnt do that because they dont exist
I have a friend who cuts herself. The self harm thing is crazy to see. She's stabbed herself with seam rippers, scissors and all kinds of stuff.
i saw a dispensary today...sad.
It becomes acceptable...
Clove cigarettes were delicious!
Stoicism was the answer to my problems
DO NOT BE WEAK....
Hopelessness and lack of sense of purpose can leave a person feeling like suicide is the best option.
Inception of suicide happens when you call the suicide hotline. Last thing they ask you is “do you have any thoughts of harming yourself or others?” And then they say Goodbye.
This is a demonic tactic to get righteous or in most cases weak and broken people to throw themselves over the ledge.
Proverbs 2:12
Wisdom will save you from the ways of wicked men
I'm a professional cliff diver and my friends say I'm bad at understanding metaphors... what the fuck is he talking about?
Depends on the freind.
Men are used to firing women in the workplace especially when they feel unsafe. This puts me between a rock and a hard place where I have to push forward, but the intention (by social conformity in many many many many many many x 10 incidences) is to drag me back so I don’t gain any kind of real power. This can put in bad places where there is little concern about my safety from people who where suppose to care and be there. The ones who then feel helpless feed off of my dilemma as I get within streets territory.
Bottom line is men have been playing me with prejudice as the game winner since 2016 outwardly, where before it was passive aggressive. It is now acceptable to lay people off without any explanation. Bad actors as leaders never have to think about what they are doing. I am not a bad employee, just a bad follower as I have been told “I’m not listen” because I’ve got m own ideas at this point.
I don’t know how to revise the Marines decision to be active as I have already taken many jumps and fallen to make it happen. The door it seems is closed, and yet I can’t help but keep trying. I am like a fish out of water.
The recruiters go to social conformity due to a strong identity as a core. The social odds are intended to make me believe I’m bad and undeserving. I’m past that. There is a desire for recognition for their misbehavior due to conformity.