SKIER VS SNOWBOARDER | CAN A SKI RACER CATCH ME? | 4K
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- Skier vs Snowboarder, who's faster? Can a ski racer catch me? 3000ft plus descent in Alpe d'Huez, France. And as always, did you spot the rubber duck?
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Who can be first to spot the rubber duck? 🦆
Shit I never remember to look!
Gotta keep eye out
Not sure, but is it on 05:41 at the left pole? Just a glimpse, nice run btw!
@@stefancosovic5965 nope not there!
That was tough! On the orange padding at 4:24!
At minute 2:23 on the left side.
I love how within 10secs into the video he says, “I think we all know skiing is faster than snowboarding”. Perfect, saved 9mins.
😂🤦♂️
@@malcolmmoore you played yourself 😂
Still fun to watch
Skiing is obviously faster, you don't even need to watch the first ten seconds to know that.
@@malcolmmooreSkiing is not faster if you know to ride your snowboard on the edge straight! Thats right what I said, to ride your snowboard on the edge, but in straight line.
I have a friend who was an exceptional skier, he even got to speeds like 127 km/h. He has race skies and never ever was he faster than my old snowboard. I was going 70km/h max, because my board was starting to vibrate horrible at higher speeds, but within that speed, I was faster indeed.
If you want I can tell you how to go straight on your edge 😁
I love how this started right away, no distracting build up to the race, just the exact content that I clicked for, awesome stuff!
That's cause it wasn't made by American "Influencers".......
I kept waiting for the inevitable break in the video where they'd give a whole preamble to why and where and how they did it. Glad it never came.
I still don't get the whole point of the race. Why even racing if you need a head start in the first place. We all know who is faster!
Agreed
@@nickmaclachlan5178 hey buddy what the hell does that mean
You captured the anxiety every snowboarder has on a flat really nicely here.
Agree, as a skier I hate that sinking feeling when you get on the flats without speed, and it felt way worse as a snowboarder.
@@mrt2u905 That's not what they're talking about. On snowboard flats can be really scary because it's very hard to not catch the wrong edge if you lose speed or aren't on a slope.
@@blyg9992 just learn to ride flat mate, if u get it out u can also do it on steeper slopes
@@m.engelbrecht4456 Yeah of course I know how im just saying its hard especially for new snowboarders
@@blyg9992 I wouln't say it's hard (except for new snowboarders), but it really takes a toll on your legs.
I really enjoy that Malcolm takes the time to add a speedometer and a map.
Does it automatically more or less if you got GPS activated on your gopro. It is just 2 Buttons extra to push which takes 2 seconds.
@@xenoz666 What adds the graphics though, is there some gopro software that does this?
@@xenoz666 Oh right I never use the gopro app I'll check it out.
@@concernedcitizen3254 Enjoy :)
It would be better if he did not add. What it shows is complete nonsense. GoPro has no idea about such things as DEM maps, it calculates the speed on the basis of the height calculated from the GPS position, and how accurate this height is, I suggest you watch a few such videos with similar speed/altitude meters, where driving on the flat suddenly loses 5m :)
That looked like a lot of fun. But damn you could hear how icy it was 😅
Looks fine to me but I ski the Northeast US....
Looks super fun! Could you try doing another video like this one in the future but also have a POV from the other person if possible? Maybe then you could stack the videos when the chase gets intense. Just an idea!
That would at least triple the viewership!
Exactly what i missed in this video
good idea
I love how this video was more about having fun and making a fun excuse to make a video vs actual "science" of who's faster.
I like your style and positioning on the pistes: fast, but definitely defensive positioning and distance to other slower users. Well done!
Agreed, fast but safe. Giving us a good name.
yes he could go faster in my opinion
I agree, he's quite good in estimating wich way to go when a skier is in front of him. I do the same, just going a good speed but don't create unnecessary dangerous situations. Good run my man!
So hard to gauge when and where to pass some people, especially when they are carving the entire trail as if they are the only ones on the trail.
Worked great on about 6"-8" of average snow starts to struggle a bit past 8". czcams.com/users/postUgkxoHYZbq5g9fkcAtinlTqstNlje-UQkCHN Very light weight and the chute spin control works well. For the low price you get a ton of value. My only complaint is managing the cord as it does take a fair bit of effort to watch and pull the cord out of the way. I found myself having to whip the cord out of the way a lot when I needed to make one way passes to mange the blow direction. It's less of an issue when you can work both directions. A battery powered version would be a lot easier to handle but that is also double the price and requires battery care. I chose the corded version so I didn't have to worry about batteries but I do now see how much work the cord is. I let my neighbor borrow it and it outperformed his smaller gas blower, he was totally sold. Very pleased with the power and operations.My only suggestion is to spend a bit more on a cordless version if you have budget for it. The cord is a bit more of a headache than I thought it would be. Very pleased with the Snow Joe brand and quality.
I snowboarded for 10 years, then went back to skiing.
This is a perfect example of why.
Going fast downhill, is more suited to skis, as you have double the feel and double the edge control to regulate speed and direction.
Also, you have the added advantage of not getting held back on flat areas, or just slowly navigating around crowds, getting on/off lifts etc
Boards are definitely more fun, when conditions are good, just cruising around and looking for features to pop off, but theres a reason skis have been around for centuries, and have been used as the natural vehicle of the mountains by outdoors people and even soldiers.
Will always love my board, but for most applications, in most conditions, skis just work better!
facts!!
I consistently blow by skiers on the flats. Having the right board, with a good tune up on it goes a long way.
Skiing is a means of travel
Snowboarding is for fun.
Same, I was doing turn-about for a few years on both - Ski one session, Snowboard the next. Then I cracked a rib while boarding after crashing off a slide-box in a twisted landing. After that I solely switched to skis.
Not to mention that your feet aren't strapped together and you are pointing the way you are going! But I don't know, when I see a boarder in deep powder I can kind of understand why they do it.
That looked like a fantastic trail to go down, nothing like a long mellow run, though you were zooming hard in most of it. Didn't seem like it was that fast but 50 plus most of the time, seems crazy. Good job.👍
I find it impressive when snowboarders are able to rip down a hard icy hill at speed. Skiers might not think it so difficult, but they have at least twice the edge length as we do. We also don't have a second edge to fall back on when one slips out.
Yes this! 🤩
I'm surprised it took her so long to catch up with how slow snowboarding is.
Ha!@@MegaLokopo
@@choski76 what? Skiing is so much faster than snow boarding, the acceleration is faster and the top speed is faster.
@@MegaLokopo and
Watching this video was both the most exciting and the most relaxing thing that happened to me all day! Finally helped me get the edge off. It's like ASMR and playing a videogame all at the same time!
I truly believe that if you chose a mountain that wasn't half flat, you would have won that!
true, the flats probably lost it for him
Haha remember he got a head start
As a skier and boarder I can tell you, no he wouldn't. You can carry so much more speed on skis even in the steep sections.
unlike most people, click on your link and you get some funny extras 😁
That's amazing control at that speed on such an icy run!
That’s cool, I felt it, and I just finished 9 laps at Hood on my Dancehaul 157! Not into speed personally at 66 but I love the way the Dancehaul rides pow or groom.
Rhythm, flow, style, power, grace.....😎
You know when snowboarding is better? When you walk back to the car.
😂😂😂
Lol yes that's what I drove to the mountain for, ease of walking back to my car 🤣
And staying out all night in the bars walking home at midnight or later which happens at least once per holiday usually when chalet staff have their night off
@@kevb6313 I keep shoes in my ski bag, problem solved.
Snowboarding is better in the park, in backcountry and in free ride. Almost all technologies that make ski enjoyable were developped by snowboarders (crved edges, camber, rocker, multilayer construction).
Gotta love how hes making 60-70kmh look like a casual cruise,meanwhile I went somewhere in between that for the first tkme this season and felt like Id break something if i made the tiniest mistake🤣
Most runs I average between 55-70 kph on a board, and if I am racing friends down a steep I've clocked up to 96 kph. I've wiped a number of times in the 55-70 kph range and the the most damage I took was bad snow rash as I was in a T-shirt.
@@evang3014 Don't care
@@prankish1030 K.
I thought he was going really fast until realized it was kmh. 60-70mph is not hard for a decent rider to hit. I am in my 40s and hit higher #s in mph.
@@KaliAndy2 Agreed 60-70 kph isn't too difficult or out of the norm for anyone decent, 60-70 MILES per hour on the other hand can be a bit intense. Never hit 70 mph but I've been up to 60 mph.
Stunning video! Congrats to both of you! Nice ride for all of us!!!
Thanks!!
@@malcolmmoore 💙💜💙💜
Love watching such content! Great job! Keep it up!
Thanks Abner 🤩
Speeding on a snowboard is quite scary, especially on messed up and bumpy pistes, and honestly i don't like it very much, especially as a beginner, always on the verge of catching an edge :p I find myself having much more fun on wide green or blue slopes than on any red (or black, but i haven't ridden any yet. I rode my very first red the last day of last season).
But that's kind of a pain in the ass when all your friends ski. You just get left behind, they have to wait for you at the end of every run. So you try to keep up and end up falling and hurting yourself X)
Anyway, enough rambling from me. As always it's a pleasure to see you ride :) And Viv looked quite fast indeed!
just be a little patient, once you start relaxing a little on your board, stability will come naturally... once you start to fatigue your body tells you to stand up straigter, cause that costs less energy (i.e. stand squatted vs straight for some minutes) ... so if you have to concentrate for a long cattrack or simillar later in the day, take a short rest before entering.
And then just kill it in your baggy pants, hiphop kind of attitude ;)
I prefer more challenging runs than bombing hills anyway. Especially on the East coast, I have to take my time down the mountain or it'll be over in under 1 minute
@@fireblade1986 Yeah, i'm much more smooth and precise when i'm not focused on what i should do but rather let my mind "flow" and my body do things instinctively. As you said, cattracks are where it really shows. There was a long cattrack at the resort i was lastime, bordered by a nice rocky ravine. For half of the piste, everything was perfect, i was feeling good and didn't think about what i was doing, just being natural. Then at some point i tried to carve just a turn and began to become more "body conscious". And from there the rest of the run became not so enjoyable lmao.
All of that to say that i find a flowing state of mind very important. Almost more important than any other thing.
@@bricky2662 I heard that the east coast is quite icy, so yeah i guess it forces you to keep a fairly safe attitude regarding speed.
you have to squat as much as possible and the board remains stable, sticking to the track.
Your best video to date. Great entertainment. Would love to see a ski v snowboard rematch off piste.
Yeah awesome idea, let's hope for some snow!!!!
Two dots would take this awesome video to the next level.
Yes!
Absolutely LOVE These kinda vids
Great job on the mountains to both of you! Loved the video!
Looked amazing! Both perspectives for the rematch please! You both looked so knackard after, and those conditions! Great watch 👍🏼
Nice race! Would've been nice with a split screen view of both your viewpoints
This is the best video I watched in 2022... Gave me goosebump!
Good effort, but she was so quick! 👍 Must have rattled a few loose fillings with that icy run! 😄
Looks so beautiful out there. I may have to finally take an over seas snowboarding trip.
Do it ✌
So would I, if France weren't so expensive.
Considering the inherent speed advantage skis have, the fact that shes a professional, and the awful icy sounding snow which boards are notoriously bad for... You actually did pretty damn well. Would be interesting to see the same race with a much less crowded slope and a layer of fresh dry powder, I think you might have had a chance
Crowded slope? This is considered extremely peaceful on the slopes of Europe… 😮
@@janjanssen9629 Wow I didnt realize that. I mostly ride northern California and Oregon resorts. This is what Id consider crowded at anything other than the very bottom of the mountain / loading areas.
How is this crowded lmao? Theres like 5people 😂
@@r00kiet80 Some sections where definitely wide open but I see a lot more than 5 people, thats crowded compared to places I m used to. More importantly the snow sounds like an icy crusty mess, thats the worst possible thing on a board
@@ST19859 obviously over the course of 9minutes there were more then 5 people but it was the opposite of crowded atleast to what i am used to here in switzerland. Even runs where you have to walk up are more crowded then this.
Wow, this was a fun video to watch. Living vicariously through you guys! 😁
That was amazing. You are both excellent in your sport. Thanks for the footage, absolutely mesmerizing.
Our pleasure!
Holy crap. She was a bullet coming down! Saw her for 5 seconds and she was gone!
You did well anticipating everyone's velocity. Impressive stamina for that long run!
Nice video and damn you go fast with great control, respect ✊
Love how there’s not too much talking in the start like a lot of you tubers! Also my anxiety was like going insain when u hit 90 like😭🤌
good fun... thanks ... guess we just need to troll you a little for your boardchoice ;) ... effective edgelength and big sidecut radius are not quite what volumeshifted boards are known for ;) ... really good fun they are anyway... my Superpig is like a Dragonfly... just instant turn even on blank glacierice if you dare.
Would have been good to have footage from both of you 👍
Thanks for getting straight to the point, how all videos should be.
Thanks 😊🙏
Great video! This looked super fun!
That's funny Malcom! A week ago I was in Saalbach in Austria with 13 skiers and just me as snowboarder and... Your result on race has been exactly the same to me when I tried to beat my skiers group! At the beginning I took the advantage but finally... No way man! And I was riding my dancehaul as well jajaja!
BTW as someone below comments, the Dada (stiffer right?) is faster board than dancehaul?
That was fun! :) Congrats to you both! :)
This looked like an awesome time! Cheers!
On blue slopes I'm much faster than skiers because I don't slow down much and can go long on one edge, but when it comes to black or black-red slopes it becomes to scarry to control speed that I have to change edge very often while skiers just run like bullets nearby
maybe because novice skiers go on blues, and experienced skiers go on blacks, and your just a snowboarder.
Gain more experience and you ll see how fast you can go on steep slope on your board just knee practice:)))
@@ChangLRC sometimes you still have to ski down a blue or green to reach a red or black.
I just feel slower on snowboard because I need to change edge after getting tired, not because I need to make a turn to slow down.
There's also the fact that most people aren't racing and there are more beginners on blue. A skier can go straight down as well.
When on a flat slope you never engage the edge. It slows you down. You glide so as to have as little friction as possible. Somehow this video and all the comments just scream: jeeeeeeeeerryyyyyy
I'm a snowborder my self ( not a very good one) and I think we have to give it to ski. Ski is more efficient but this doesn't mean we are giving up on snowboard.
snowboarding is about feel not speed efficiency
Glad to see you two and the other folks out there each made it down the hill in one unmashed piece. The rocks alongside the runs could easily cause death if you hit them with your head at 30 or 40 kmh in a slide, helmet or not. A couple of the questions I like to ask hotshots who go straight down the fall line without turning is, "What's more fun, snowboarding for 1 day or 2 days?", "What's more fun, snowboarding for 1 hour or 2 hours?", and "What's more fun, snowboarding for 5 minutes or 10 minutes?" I think the fun of snowboarding arises from acceleration more than speed, whether the acceleration is lateral or vertical in direction. How can you accelerate all the way down the hill? Turn continuously. That's centripetal acceleration, assuming you are taking a curving path and not just skidding on a board turned across the direction of travel.
Great stuff, really good to see !! Well done both. Leg Burners !!!
Grear video!!!I really enjoy watching all you'r vids,but I was wondering if you can tell me how you put that speedometer in the down left corner??
Go Pro GPS settings should be enabled first of all and then add it to the video via GoPro Quick.
@@iamtimur4795 yeah but that is not a go pro speedometer
So I'm using a suunto GPS watch that also has a barometric altimeter. I then take that data and plug it into the free Garmin Virb Edit software to make the speedos 👌
Would be good to see this challenge on a nice snow day. Going fast on crunchy ice is sketchy. Need a fresh dusting so you can feel comfortable going straight down with minimal turning.
minimal turning, who needs to turn?
@@MegaLokopo just the curve of the trail
@@bluemeanie6395 Sometimes I guess, but going as straight as possible straight downhill is a hell of a lot of fun.
I used to ride an F2 with hard boots and spent my holidays in a group of skiers. We were always racing each other. The snow sounded hard in places, major thigh burn. 80+kmh well done.
Awesome! So cool to have those super long runs all the time!!
Yeah so lucky here 🙌
I wish my local resort has such long slope to ride on! Looks so much fun
yeah, I wish also. 30 sec head start will end the race around where I live.
This shows exactly the pain snowboarders have trying to figure out where the heck skiers are going to go when you pass them.. it's so unpredictable.. ugh. This really shows perfectly the feeling.
Worse is trying to practice with skiers passing you.
I swear in their heads they don't realise you can't snowplough.
Amateur skiers are the best always, trying to get ran over.
@@bg3841 Yes you can, it is easier to snowplough on a snowboard than on skis. The worst is snowboarders standing just below the top of a hill asking to be hit in the back of the head.
That was a nice long route, nice job!! I would have stopped twice to take a break.
4:25 on the orange pad. First time watching your channel and I love it.
Just remember any crash at that type of speed can have life changing effects. I crashed last March at 65 kph and broke my neck (and too many other injuries to list), so be careful on the slopes. And yes, I'm back on the hill this year, got 11 days in now.
That’s really bad, hope your better now though
@user-qv3gk5xv7k Luckily, I healed completely.
Malcolm, great to watch you push it to the limit, I have a question and maybe you could do a video on it, I’m a intermediate Snowboarder and my legs get so tired after say ten mins of boarding, I fell ok but would be good if you had any advice, it always seems on my leading foot/leg?. Cheers 🥂
Learn how to ride switch :) Then you can ride the other way to tire out the other leg.
Could be a sign to tweak your binding angles. I used to ride 15/-6, and now I’m at 24/9 cause that’s what felt most comfortable
Do leg presses at the gym.
@@byunism
I can ride switch, that’s not a problem at all, I have my bindings set up 15/15 duck to allow me to ride switch, but still my legs burn out, maybe it’s because I’m 53 and still living the dream, never want to give it up though.
@@itskeirashorts4520 the age probably has a lot to do with it. I'm 41 and just got back home from a weekend trip. The drive back killed my lower back and now I'm having a hard time walking. Getting old sucks but let's keep riding until our legs fall off!
fantastic! thank you both for inspiring ride
Ah, man! The Dancehaul in black and gold! 💯😱Looks sick retro, like an -83 Datsun! I was so keen on buying that one last season. When finally decided they where all gone…😢 Went for the Nitro Woodcarver this season instead.🚀
Do you use any tracking app such as Slopes or Snoww? It'd be great to follow you there 👀
lol you were never going to beat a skier, but considering you effectively cover twice the distance on a board due to the turns, you did really well on what look like really crappy snow. Gonna have to watch it again now for that bl**dy rubber duck lol
Twice the distance?
I guess he said it because Snwoboarders have to go from side to side doing Ss while skiers can just go in straight line, if you measure the real distance, is like skiers are taking shortcuts compared with snowboaders.
good fun. there's some snow forecasted for today night 🤞🤞
I was snowboarder and ski schooler @ JHMR - Jackson Wy. I skied and boarded a few time with Tommy Moe. He was so fast in the hard and fast conditions. A snowboarded, at any level, would not compute. Still. Very Good job! Fun to watch. Slow old guy here. Cheers
JMHR is legendary!
Chasing Andy but this time you're Andy lol
lol
😂
I've been skiing all my life and I already knew how this is gonna end before even watching it ^^ not once did a snowboarder overtake me if I didnt want him to
because you haven’t met me 😮💨
@@trippgio9981 you hitting on me? :p still call bs, seeing how I towed every snowdoarder ever on flat stretches
nice job for both!
thnx for your content guys
Thank you!!!
Well done. I’m a pretty new snowboarder and speed is the scariest thing to me on my snowboard, especially on bumpy terrain. Not sure I will ever get the courage/ability to send it like you did here!
Yeah this is after lots of practice 😂
God that is such a long run! Really gotta do some boarding in the Alps. Don't have anything like that in my area of the US
Cervinia is nearly 7kms, top to bottom.
France has the biggest ski resorts, and cheap price for it. You'll love it
Wow that snow looks incredible and soft. Great views too! Which resort? My peak speed ever snowboarding is 115 kmh or about 72 mph
115? i find that hard to believe.. the world record is 131 and I doubt your that close. Not trying to talk shit but going even 80 is insane. I think your spedometer is off
What a run. You guys are both great!
Haha thanks 🙏😄✌️
deze video was zowel het meest opwindende als het meest ontspannende 🙏🙏👌👌
Would have liked to see this with a proper 1,9m Raceboard and Hardboots - Speeds would have been way higher on this kind of descent with nearly no need to drift at all..
So... not snowboarding.
Still amazed how fast you can go. I seem to get pretty unstable at moderate speeds. I'm wondering if my snowboard is too small and having a bigger one will help with stability. I'm 6' 210lbs on a 159. 10.5 feet but regular width board. I've been thinking of getting something 163 or longer and wide. Will that make a difference?
Go Jones Flagship 165w for fast ride. im lighter than you on a 162w and it hauls ass yet stable as a Cadillac
@@je5406 thanks! I've looked at that it's a bit out of my price range but I've been looking at similar boards. 162-165, wide. I don't do park so all-mountain that can handle the occasional pow.
Your board length and board type makes a huge difference. Im 5'10" and 220lbs and have 3 boards in my rideable quiver. My libtech skunk ape is a 165w and is what I use for my high speed runs as it is long and stable. I can reach speeds up to 50mph fairly comfortably. I use a couple smaller wide boards in 158w like my Marhar Lumberjack or Libtech Box knife for days where I'm looking for more side hits or tree runs. Smaller boards give me better maneuverability while my longer board gives better stabilization for speed. Most of my boards, I bought used off classifieds for cheaper and they work great.
a longer wide board will certainly help with better control at high speeds. You will sacrifice some turning quickness though. I am 6'2 230 ride a 162 wide. My first board was 169 then I went as low as 155. Short boards are nice if going into tight places and have to make quick turns. But they will start to chatter at high speeds. A 163W camber board would probably be ideal for you. Biggest thing is making sure you are riding your edges and not sliding back of your board to turn and slow down.
@@KaliAndy2 I tried a blue run with a steep entrance going into a flat long straight. I went flat base and still didn't top 40km/h according to my Sportly app. The only time I remember going over 40 was when I demoed a 162w board. Maybe I'm too heavy for my board so even the base drags and slows me down. It's hard to get the right size and availability of the boards I want locally.
That was Outstanding! Thank you!
Thanks 🙏🙏
At the beginning I thought "hm, I recognise this route". Checked the description and I have in fact done this route many times before! Good to see a familiar slope :D
Yeah it's a great long run!!
That was a really long run. I love it. Can't find anything like this in the US
Where is it located?
@@TonyMorral, *bit* late, but it's Oz Vaujany, France (based on a welcome sign on one part of the run).
Great to watch, but why no helmet? Especially when you say it was bumpy and icy, and you are racing. Skier had better sense this time ;-)
I think you lost because of the flat section and way too many turns at the start.
I think his camera is helmet mounted, and he is taking his whole helmet off to film himself
@@SnowwithEmilyJo Ah yes - sorry Malcolm, I take it back! :-) Thanks, Emily Jo! It is clear from the start of the video...it was just so smooth at the end when he took it off...
this was great, I used to go much faster on snowboard tho, but still great watch!
this was an awesome snowboard video....more race videos please haha
I'm game!
Dang that was a long run! I need to find a good long run like that one.
that was pretty intense ....... i like how u did the map and the speedometer.... great video
Thank you 🙏😊
That good hope to see you one day on track
you guys are top on my list. you just killed il. 👍
haha Well done that was a lot of fun to watch!
Thanks 😊😊
This is so AMAZING i love going snowboarding i am begginner tho But its VERY FUN i will recomend trying this
Чувак, ехал ты, а кайфанул я, спасибо тебе!))))
I would've surely broken something going that fast on icy pistes like that, catch an edge and your done for, great control really
You guys are on the top of my list. what a démonstration . 👆
Thanks Jean-Marc 🙌
Sick! Enjoyed this video
Glad to hear it!
Damn I miss snowboarding! So much fun watching that run! Cheers!
Glad you enjoyed!!
Awesome ride very satisfying to watch. I love it 😍
Thanks 😊😊
It was relaxing enough to watch that i didn't speed it up even!
OH man that seems so fun~~~i will try that someday~~~
🙌🙌
Trolled? Viv skies _beautifully_
Respect to you both 🙌Im glad your legs burn to . Is the dance haul still the board of choice for the faster stuff?
That looked intense!
That was great fun. Well done by you both. Imagine how fast she would have been on a pair of Atomic Metron EX's!!
💯
The anxiety I got from this. Yall did amazing! I wonder how different it'll be of she got racing skis on
Love these videos