PAPAJI - The world is a notion
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- Papaji discourse (Om Shanti) at the beginning of Satsang on November 22,1992
Papaji discusses the underlying cause of suffering: the notion that "I am the body." He explains how to remove that belief and to realize the immaculate nature of Being.
This video is available with English subtitles in India at Papaji Satsang Bhavan: www.satsangbhavan.net/ and US and rest of the world at Papaji Avadhuta Foundation: avadhuta.com/
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the world is a notion/an ocean
Transcript, (thanks to a post on Papaji page along with this video): .........…Notion is just a thought.
Just a thought, your own thought.
And this thought must rise from somewhere.
As the seed touches the soil, sprouted, became a tree,
so this notion touches the consciousness
and there sprouts mind.
What could be mind, unless there is a consciousness,
as a substratum, as the soil of this sprout?
Where could the mind stand unless it has some soil,
some foundation, some substratum?
So, those who know the substratum and the rise of the mind, they will never suffer.
And those who will begin from the sprout,
from the notion itself, and look at the branches,
and the fruits, and the flowers, and the sufferings,
and the happinesses, and the joys of life,
and they will endlessly suffer.
Because they do not know the substratum of all this.
Thought is the substratum. Thought is the mind.
Mind is time, space, past. How it rises?
...You see a running river in the mirage
in the desert, in the sands.
River is running. It can be said it exists,
and it can be said it does not exist. Both are true.
It looks like a river, and people go running
to have a swim in it, because it looks like a real river.
And it is also true that it doesn't exist because it is sand.
There's no river at all, both are simultaneous truth.
So call this Samsara, call this world. It exists, like mirage.
And call it - 'it doesn't exist'.
These truths are simultaneously real.
And if you take it this way, 'this is not real' is also true.
'It is real' is also true, like the mirage and like the seed.
And it is real because it sprouted from the consciousness.
And as a notion it is not true.
So from the notion there is a rise of ego,
ego of observer, observation and observed.
Here the trouble starts, you see.
So for the sage this trouble is not there.
His observer, observation and observed is the same.
Therefore he is happy.
And the one who is not, who is yet to be awakened,
he thinks, "I am the observer."
And, "This object, object of observation,
gives me happiness."
And, "I experience that happiness."
He is surely in trouble.
And he has to get rid of his own notions, somehow.
Sitting with a saint or investigating,
by his own discrimination, discernment,
by the help of some wise people,
he can do whatever he wants.
So there are two things, you see.
How to get rid of this ego that gives us diversity?
In the one, there is no diversity,
yet in the other, diversity and unity are the same,
like that of the river in the desert is real and also not real.
So there may be diversities also.
If you know the basis,
the substratum of all these diversities, dualities,
like the waves in the ocean are none different from the substance, water.
So let there be multiplicity of waves,
that cannot lose their oneness from the water.
If even the diversities may be there,
people may look different, having different views,
having different shapes, different forms,
but essence is one.
And that essence is the same
in all beings and non-beings.
If you are aware of this you are free, you are happy,
and you are eternally blissful,
because bliss comes if you are aware of consciousness.
Bliss and consciousness, there's no difference.
And diversities and sufferings,
if you know their origin is consciousness
even then, you don't have any problem.
You must arrive, you must understand,
you must reach that the underlying ground,
the underlying essence is consciousness.
When you look at people, when you look at mountains,
when you look at river, when you look at your body,
you must be conscious, you are conscious.
When you sleep you are conscious of waking state,
you are conscious of objects,
you are conscious of your activities.
When you dream also,
you are conscious of subtle activities,
your relationships in the dream, you are quite aware,
your subjects and objects and experiences and objectivities and subjectivities also;
you are conscious.
So the basis of this activity is consciousness.
And also in the sleep, you are also conscious,
"I slept." "I had a very peace... sound sleep."
You are conscious.
So all these 3 states are projected from the consciousness.
So consciousness is there from where these things are afloat, floating into, projected in front of it.
So that consciousness you are.
Even transcending these 3 states,
Transcendental, the 4th state, you are also aware in that.
And beyond the 4th state, Turya state also,
some mention about it, not known.
Not known to anyone because that is,
that is the depth of depth of consciousness, you see.
Even the word consciousness is no more found there.
No words, no experiences, no I, you, he or she,
ever exist there.
And this is the true nature. And this is the truth.
This is the ultimate understanding.
And this is always eternally present there,
it is presence itself. It is presence itself.
It's not absent any time.
And what is not absent is called Truth.
Is called Freedom, is called Wisdom.
So whatever is Truth it must always be there,
here, now and everywhere, omniscient, omnipresent.
Omniscience and omnipresence is that, what you are.
All these waves in different forms,
you have to playfully live along with and enjoy.
This is your happiness.
Thanks for the transcript! May the supreme bless you.
Why can't they just tell people that they are trying to keep you calm so you do not realize it is all pointless. Nothing matters. No peace or bliss. These are just code words for death. This is how the real world operates. Show me a person or entity or whatever that has lived and died and has now attained some form of eternal nature. please prove this nonsense.
Thank you, thank you, thank you!
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Guruve Saranam 💖🙏
If a one is aware of the substratum of all unity and diversity and all is a play of conciousness/spirit/energyGod a one is free. Thank you
@ Marty Dredz Krazy Music : very true
My master
Thank you for the reasonings to dispell any confusions and validating certain understandings. Thou art That . Namaste
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Knows how life manifests.high intelligence.
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This is so simpel, so true, brings you back to Reality in a second. Thank you!!!!
Mind is not created. Our thoughts appear from no where
Thank you for this.
It's funny how when we hear truth we remember it, nothing new. Thanks for these offerings
Thank you!
thank u
Pure joy thank you
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Beautiful❤Thank you
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Universal consciousness is the only eternal nature in the universe
it's the first manifestation of non-existence...
awesome
Truth
Mystery solved here , from one substratum i.e consciousness everything arises as the universe , now if you focus on consciousness then you are free and if focus on universe , bondage starts , choose wisely like a true sage does , very simple to understand , may consciousness arrange the all required facilities to all beings and nonbeing to understand the supreme truth. Love, Blessing, Respect to Everyone 🙏❤️
How do you focus on consciousness?
@@Signal6000 Brother, in reality we can't focus but we can feel the magnitude of "I am ness " vibration or feeling and from there itself we will redirect to the journey of Supreme truth, please, study or follow all the nondual teachers teaching in the CZcams and you will get the idea . Thank you, all the best 🙏.
@@mdimran.hossen u dont think studying will do much. Its all about being it.
@@Signal6000 I agree , Thank You 😊
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When the ego mind drops nothing changes...except there is no independent self that relates to the experience. Yet, everything is happening just as before.....what a mystery....gone....poof!... just gone. But then it (the ego mind) eventually returns somehow. Another mystery. Anyone else having this type of experience? I ponder on this a lot lately.
Ego dropping or returning, independent self there or not there, these are just more subtle tricks that your "mind" uses to protect itself. The thief becomes more tricky as you become more adept- it's like a Cold War. ALL of these things are different forms of the rope appearing to be the snake. The mind will hijack even the most subtle spiritual endeavors and make it appear that you are having breakthroughs and experiences but these are no different than the more gross experiences one might view as worldly. In the end, meditation and pursuit of world pleasures are no different. This is why silence and stillness are emphasized. It is the closest one can get to pointing someone to the Truth. ANYTHING other than complete silence and stillness is an illusion, another trick of the mind, and one should not entertain anything, not even your idea of nothing. You are naturally awakened so anything added is just a distraction. Hope some of that makes sense but maybe it's better if it makes no-sense :)
@@fedormorozko6895 nothing perceivable, no matter how subtle is who we are... and we are free from all the games, timelessly...
When ego drops happiness begins. U cant say nothing changes.
@@fedormorozko6895 great wisdom ❣️👍
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thought ... is every man and womb man true nature........
Thought is your enemy
he was human at one point too.
Wonderful
He makes a mistake at 4:42.
No, he doesn't. What is there besides thought? Whatever answer you can give is thought.
lol