Can Am Spyder RT Limited ACS System (Rear Air Ride) Compressor Replacement. Rear Cargo Removal
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- čas přidán 7. 05. 2020
- Replacing the Air Compressor for the ACS (Automatically Controlled Suspension. Body Panel Removal. Rear Cargo Removal.
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My story pt. 2 and try not to laugh: ALL I WANTED TO DO WAS PUT A LOUSY tall boy SEAT ON my 2019 R/T Limited. That was it, what could be so hard? I'm a big guy and all that factory seat wanted to do was rupture me. The seat was 800 dollars and it was going ON. I've been a gearhead for over 45 years and do you think I could even do that? Not without the black hole of death I couldn't. And why is that hole even there? What maniac at Cam Am thought this would be a good idea? And on top of it? "Lets also make the seat almost impossible to take off." After all that effort since last I wrote, I still couldn't get the back assembly off as I didn't see the lower mounts underneath the bags. My son took vacation from Florida just to help me on this (he loves the Spider) and it was time to tackle it. She's been half apart all winter. So I showed him and I re-watched this video. This time I spotted the lower saddlebag mounts in your video and daylight set in. And sure enough, that was the problem. And you have to be crazy for hefting that thing off yourself. We together had to huff and puff to carry it and we're very big men. You're a man? LOL Yes, a very foolish man and you almost talked my son into being a foolish man. But I was there already and he was glad he didn't try. LOL My son works for Mercedes and ooh'd and ahh'd over the Spider with all her clothes off. It uses top grade Bosch electronics and is built like a brick house. And he insisted he install the seat himself this time because Dad screwed it up; which of course, caused all this in the first place and was all my fault. After he was proudly done, the seat pulled right off the bike. But this time, we did have the black hole plugged up when the bushings fell out. You should have seen his face, I almost peed my pants I laughed so hard. And he had to admit, he would have never noticed the black hole of death either. You make it look so easy, it's obvious you've been burned before. Yes?
We finally got her done and it took almost 6 hours for the two of us to do it. TO CHANGE A LOUSY SEAT! And that's not counting the four I'd already put into it. Today I aired up the tires, took her off the lift, and had her out for the first time since last year. She started right up like she was waiting for me. This is the lift I use and it's a really good one: us.on-bike.com/motorcycle-lifts/canam-spyder-trike-lift Yeah, she's mine and I own her alright. And I had multiple options I wanted to install while it was apart, and took one look at her naked and said the hell with it. I'll just keep it the way it is. It's not worth it. I have worked on everything from muscle cars, to motorcycles, to military 2 1/2 ton trucks, to farm tractors, to semi's and everything in between. This thing is my worse nightmare. The fact is, she owns me, not the other way around. Oh, the new seat has saved my balls, so it was well worth it.
I just wanted to thank you again. I couldn't have done it without you. What a nightmare it had to be to film all this and your camera work and explanations are spot on. Does your wife do your camera work?
Keep up the good work! Danny J.
Ok, I tried not to laugh, I failed 😂. I wasn’t laughing at you, I was laughing with you. This has to be one of the best comments on my page.
First: I did drop a nut for the seat when I was installing my comfort seat, and a wrench down the black hole. I got lucky and was able to fish them out with a flexible 🧲.
Second: I probably should not have lifted off the rear cargo assembly by myself. I did feel a tweak in my back but in the moment, the danger of doing it by myself won out over risking letting my wife be able to say I couldn’t have done it without her.
Third: I am glad the video helped. I try to be thorough in my videos because I have used CZcams for years and appreciate the ones that show every step, (good/bad/or ugly).
Fourth: I do all the video taping and editing. I can’t even get her to watch my videos let alone do a little editing or recording for me. 😄
Thanks for watching and the kind words. Ride safe!
Another great video. I am addicted to your videos. I enjoy doing my own maintenance, if I can. I owned a Honda Silverwing 600 with Trike Kit before purchasing my Spyder. I enjoyed tinkering with it as well thanks to all the great youtube videos. The Silverwing had its share of tupperware, not as much as the Spyder, but enough to pre-prepare me for tackling the Spyder ...LOL. You all are a god send for documenting your repairs and fixes for us who are wanting to learn. Thanks once again.
I want to thank you for this video. I dropped a bolt down the hole of death and you're the only one showing step by step on how to take the back off. THANK YOU VERY MUCH! Changing that pump must be close to the worst jobs to do at all.
Best video instruction on a Can-am that I’ve ever seen. It’s very obvious that you know what you are doing.
Vernell King
Thank you for the kind words. I have used CZcams for years for mechanic assistance. It is my turn to “give back” and help other people with doing some of their own work or upgrades and not be at the mercy of a dealership.
Thanks again, thanks for watching and ride safe.
I love CZcams, and too have used it for countless misc. repairs. My goto when in doubt! Just want to say thanks for giving back to us who are wanting to learn.
Excellent video. Keep up the good work. You're not afraid to get your hands dirty.
Al Marshall Thank you!
want to thank you for a very well done video as it turned out my compressor is working but i will save this for future use
I do all my own spannering, have done for years , self taught and helped by competent friends. I do not have a Spyder, yet, I just enjoy watching people take stuff apart and put it back together. Thank you for taking the time to video your travails. First class job. Always ask your wife for some help or ......................... you know.!!
I am really watching because I am thinking, just thinking about buying a used Spyder, as he Wing is getting just a tad heavy. Thanks again , stay healthy. Paul.
You sound like my kinda guy. Whatever we can do, we do. Thanks for the kind words, ride safe.
Excellent, excellent instructional video... Easy 10/10 .... I just did this on a friend's Spyder and after watching your video, I doubt it took 10 minutes to get the back off and the compressor out! I've had just about every panel off a spyder except the rear trunk assembly, now I'm sure I'll have them off a lot more to do wiring mods on them... This is going to save me many hours of hassle over the next while! Many many thanks for taking the time to show in excellent detail your procedure!
gmctech
Thank you for the compliment. I was pretty nervous the first time I took the rear cargo assembly off. This was my second time. Practice makes perfect. Ride safe and thanks for watching.
Great video. Just so you'll know, I did this same replacement, but only removed the rear tire, shock, and splash guard. Using an aftermarket compressor ( much more affordable ) and working pretty well. Thanks for all the informative videos.
Yes, I new it was possible to get to the pump that way, I just didn't want to do all the work underneath the Spyder. I can do this pump change start to finish in about an hour now. practice makes perfect. lol
Great Video. Thank you. I added a dual USB for my passenger after watching this video.
I just found your channel And this video is just what I needed! As you said to "Vrenell King" about being at the mercy of the dealer. I had the master cylinder go out and had the shop fix it for me = $1200.00 later they broke more than they fixed! and lost parts!! with your help, I was able to find a leak in my system & a stuck ck. valve, in about an hour!! I'm GLADE I FOUND YOU!!! Thanks again, Dan
Thank you! I am glad it helped. Ride safe.
I really enjoying your videos as you show everything from start to finish but don't make it all peaches and cream. You are quite through and admit when you miss something without the cursing. WELL DONE!!
Thankyou just completed my replacement. Helped a lot very accurate
Just completed this thanks in large part to your video. Many thanks. joel
joel heffentrager
That is great! ...... that you did it yourself, not great that yours broke. Thanks for the shout out. Ride safe
Interesting And Information. Keep Up Your Good Work! I like!
I have been thinking about buying one of these. I like doing my own maintenance, enhancements etc. But this video and the one where you change the filters has changed my mind. I have a Yamaha Super Tenere and it has too many panels for my liking. To replace the turn signals, I had to remove the top half of the bike, and it wasn't easy. At 66, I want easier, not harder. This thing requires it's own garage.
I like you zip tie most wires. If they don’t rub they won’t short. Excellent detail of a very tedious job.
Thanks James. It’s actually not that tedious, I enjoy working on stuff and sharing info for others to use when they need it.
Merci pour votre video cela m'a beaucoup aider et j'ai réparer mon compresseur en changeant une brosse
Very detailed video, thanks. I hope I never have to do this.
Thanks Alex, it is not that bad of a job. I hate to even think how much a shop would have charged and it took me less than 2hrs even with doing the video. It did help that I had done it before.
Great video!!
Thank you!
Say, I'm converting my 2014 rt ACS to a manual system.
So I disconnect the power to the compressor, the air manifold assy and the Position Sensor?
Thanks Milo
Chris as I have said before I have a twin to your R/T , is there a dump valve or relief valve or maybe it’s the check valve that expels air ? Recently when riding 2 and when we come to a light the bike makes a burping/ buzzing noise. It seems to be coming from mid bike. It doesn’t do it as much or not at all with 1 rider. If you have any thoughts about this and some things I could look at, it would be much appreciated. I just did the brake fluid change and bleed with speed bleeders, great video on that job. Where have speed bleeders been all my life? Thanks Bill Pettit
Thank you for the informative video. I noticed in the video your manual. Could you tell me how I might obtain a manual for the 2014 Can Am Spyder RT?
Hi. give me a link to the compressor. where can i buy
Afternoon. Question for you. As luck would have it, my ACS compressor finally went south. I thought it was odd I had not heard it in awhile now. And my ride was getting a bit rougher on the old bottom. The fuse is still good, I can still see the inflate BAR when I press the "hard / soft" rocker button. Thankfully the air bag is still good, just have to manually inflate every ride now. I have the 2014 RTL as well, was trying to see the part number on the replacement compressor you have, and also what check valve did you use. I like how you explained your riding dilemma, regarding getting on and off and having to put in air after every dismount. I thought I was going crazy at first, now it all makes prefect sense with the air release valve. Great video! AGAIN!
Could you have gotten to the pump by removing the back tire assembly? So replacing ing the pump when replacing the tire?
The most crucial part.... What did you do to re-use the clam shell compressor bracket??? Please someone advise.
where did you find the replacement Check Valve?
Did you say that the 20 amp fuse started blowing after you added an aftermarket compressor? I keep blowing the 20 amp that runs the heated grips, horn, and fog lights after I installed a non BRP compressor.
Yes, we got back from our big trip last year when the original pump went bad because of the leaky check valve. I put in the 97c Viair and turned around the next week and took my youngest daughter who had just graduated college to Yellowstone. The fuse blew on the way there. No pump, horn or fog lights. I put in a new one and it blew again so I just left it because I knew the aftermarket pump was obviously pulling more amps than the OEM. When I got back home, I just disabled the system by unplugging the pump and Shed solenoid and plugging the air line from the pump and put a new fuse in it so I had the horn etc. I ran it this way the rest of the season and just manually adjusted the air pressure in the air shock accordingly. I didn't really want to spend the money on a new BRP pump, but decided it was what I needed to do. It would be possible to run an aftermarket pump by using an add in relay that has the power supplied from the battery and using the existing wiring harness for the pump to simply control the relay. This way the circuit would not be overloaded by the pump.
Wow!!! Definitely subscribed. Awesome video. So glad I searched for this issue. It cost about $1,600 to have my unit replaced in 2018 and here it is again not holding air. Of course I was quoted $1,600 again, and $800 if it's not the air bag. By air bag, do they mean the compressor? Also, how do I check it all to see what actually needs replacing? Or should I do a full replacement of the whole thing?
Love your videos, this is another great one. Quick question what is your phone mount that you have?
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I have the same year & model Spyder same air suspension issue. It is bypassed to manually fill it due to cost of repair. Dealer deactivated the switch. He also said the common cause of failure is dirt due to its location to the rear tire area and that it constantly adjusts. I do want to get it fixed but don’t want the same issue in a few years I only have 22000 on the bike. Any thoughts?
I don’t know for sure how he disabled your switch, but I am guessing he just chose “No ACS” in buds, which would essentially make it like an RTS. That way the bike would not try working the pump or shedding air out of the air bag depending on the ride position sensor. My problem with leaving mine disabled was that I was having to adjust the air bag every time I had a passenger, which just annoyed me. If I left it aired up to where it needed to be when my wife was with me it would ride like a tank when I was by myself. This is why I decided to just fix it. I ordered extra check valves so when I notice the pump running more than it should, I will just change it out. Btw, I ordered my pump from eBay. Part number 706001349. www.ebay.com/itm/184310009907
another great vid! curious about the service manual you are using?...where'd you get it and publisher. cant find any on the webernet for the spyders! thanks!
geep, It is an actual 2013 BRP Roadster Shop Manual. 2013 was the big change from the earlier RT body but they still ran the 998 engine. So for 2014 you have to find the 2013 manual as well as the 2014 shop manual supplement to cover the new changes. I just kept looking and eventually found them both on EBay. The main 2013 manual part number is 219100736 and the 2014 supplement is 219100764. I have the electronic version but I hated using it. Thanks for watching
thanks Own it! Yeah i dont like the electronic files either.
These suspension systems really seem to be defective and alot of trouble. The one on our 2023 isnt working right still after bringing it back to the dealer to fix it. After having it for only a week.
You could always epoxy the captive nut holding the cargo frame?.
Andrew Nicholl
Yes, that is an option, but it isn’t too hard to get it where it needs to be. Thanks for watching.
Great video I just help a friend change his pump which had gone bad!! After putting back together the pump seems to have no power going to it. Checked fuse and ok!! Any suggestions??
Found problem stupid mistake not in gear!!!!! Still great video thanks again!!!,
Good job! This seems like a daunting task but once you dig in and do it, it is fairly straightforward.
Thanks for the compliment and thank you for watching!
Where did you get the repair manual
eBay, see my reply to “geep’s” comment.
I just put a new compress and poisoning sensor in but the acs solenoid valve just keeps clicking and I can't raise the bike if I disconnect the acs position sensor I can raise and lower it and the acs solenoid stops clicking any ideals
The new ride position sensor will need calibrated using buds. Did you change the sensor for a reason? You might try putting the original ride sensor back in (which was calibrated to the Spyder) and see if that works. Maybe the compressor was all that was bad.
@@ItsYoursOWNIT
I put the new position sensor on thinking that was bad to I know the compressor was bad rod set screws broken.
Well, I would definitely put the original sensor back in and see if it works. Worst case, put the new one back in and set up an appointment for ride height sensor calibration with buds at a dealer.
I just put a new compress in I'm contacting the harnesses back up on the left side of bike can you tell me were the pug with all yellow wires pugs in
At the 41:00 mark in the video is where I am hooking up the harnesses on the left side. There are two bigger plugs with slides that attach to the frame, one is the radio harness, the other is the lighting harness. Then there is the small plug that goes to the passenger heated grip and finally the plug that sticks up to hook into the passenger seat. I hope this helps.
@@ItsYoursOWNIT
I have a 2012 it may be different I dont have anything attached to the frame on the left side
@@fredroberts1823
Here is a video of one like yours. Hope this helps.
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@@ItsYoursOWNIT
Thanks for all your help video didn't show the plug with all the yellow wires but thank you
@@fredroberts1823
If all of the wires are the same color, I am thinking that it is an aftermarket harness of some kind. Maybe a trailer wiring harness?
Good luck
Are you in Florida ? Could you do mine?
I've commented on other videos. Sorry to keep commenting but your videos are awesome. I'm buying the same bike soon. Can you please tell me the proper way to test to make sure this system is working so I can try before I buy please? I see you started it and put it in first gear and then you said it was working. I couldn't see any indication that it was working on the display, and I didn't see you adjust the switch at that time, so I'm wondering how best to test it to make sure it works since I have no idea what to expect having never owned a Spyder. Nothing like it on any bike I've owned to date. :) THANK YOU! :)
Hi Pat, the fastest way to tell if the ACS system is working is to lift the seat and let the air out of the airbag via the schrader valve (basically a valve stem that is under the seat) before you start it. Then get on and start it and when you put it in gear you will probably hear and definitely feel the pump raise the rear of the bike. The way to tell if you have a leak in the system is to park it and measure the distance between the ground and the bottom of the rear fender, let it sit overnight and measure again. Mine failing was preventable had I realized that it was just the check valve at the pump not holding pressure.
The system automatically controls the ride height of the rear because it has a ride height sensor. The switch is for adjusting the ride height up or down a little. I always just leave it in the centered position.
@@ItsYoursOWNIT Awesome! Great to know. Thank you so much for your time, and for the help! I really appreciate it! Thank you!!
@@ItsYoursOWNIT ahh. Ok. Makes sense! Thank you so much again. :)
Have you worked on F3 limited before
No I haven’t. I’ve never even had the opportunity to ride one yet.
Couldn't have you just removed the rear wheel to remove the pump?
Yes, that is possible, you have to still get that inner fender out from the wheel well and have to be a contortionist to do all the work from under the bike. I thought about doing it that way but opted to remove the rear cargo instead.
@@ItsYoursOWNIT THAT'S why I bought a lift. I have a GoldWing and A RT Limited. I much rather sit on a roll-around than on my back. Work smart not hard!
Sweet Jesus!! Put your camera on a tripod
I want to delete this pump I had three of these pumps put on my bike in the last 2 years 16 thousand miles at a cost of around 750 at my dealer very expensive bike to maintain.
Any idiot could take a bike apart. skill and knowledge to go ahead and put it back the way took it apart. Instruction book helps. We kind of Russia ourselves to put it back together , Yes to realise we forgot one Thing Add to get to it everything has to come off again. But we learn.
Yes, don’t believe for one second that I haven’t done that many times. I am an idiot just as often as most. Lol
Thanks for watching and have a Merry Christmas.
You’ve done this before……
Yes, once. I went through the story of installing a VIAIR aftermarket compressor the previous year at the start of the video. It was my second rodeo.
What repair manual are you using I need to replace Spyder 2014-2018 RT Spyder RT SM6 Cargo Dr Rh Cargo 708301017.
Thank You John Kern