Euro 5 Piaggio Liberty 125cc | Road Test Review!
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- čas přidán 15. 05. 2021
- Back with another Scooter road test review, today we are on the Piaggio Liberty 125cc which features ABS! Join Brett on his ride out around the back-roads and village streets of Norfolk and Suffolk as he puts this new for 2021 two-wheeler to the test!
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The Liberty is a reliable and well-made budget-Scooter that shows Piaggio's tremendous experience with scooters.
In USA we get it as a 150cc for $3000. Seems like a very good deal compared to a Vespa Sprint that is almost twice as expensive. Really enjoy your scooter reviews, well done!
Nice little town, love the scoot, awesome vid really enjoyed the enthusiasm. Taking my MSF course Monday. Can't wait to get on two wheels and the Liberty will probably be my first scooter.
Thanks for you kind words! It's an ideal choice for a first scoot, sure you'll be very happy with it!
Id take front only ABS and rear drum over double disk combined braking any day of the week.
ABS on bikes is brilliant 👍
Great help on deciding on my first 125. Thanks!
Great to hear!
Great video very helpful for new riders
Thanks for the video.. I agree with you on most of your comments, but I strongly disagree with you on the dash.. I like this current dash on this Liberty .. and I would HATE a digital dash!!! Just to repeat for emphasis.. I do NOT like a digital dash!! I guess it is a matter of preference.. I just hope Piaggio keeps this current traditional dash.
me too
Liked, commented, subscribed!
when you switch ignition on a 2022 model do you hear the fuel pump at all?, briefly? or constant, when engine is not running?
Nice review and nice place 👍
Will the front compartment fit 16 oz coffee thermos ?
Any opinion on the Piaggio Liberty 125 vs the Kymco Agility 125? I’m a beginner and I’ll be riding with someone on the back. Kymco has 12” rims with 130mm tires
What about service intervals? 620/6200?
What's service schedule on it and how much are they ?
The link for the Lexham insurance discount takes you to a non-functioning page, just a heads up
The Medley 125 is more expensive, but offers a lot of important extras : Dual rear shocks, better set, dual disc brakes ( and dual ABS - an option or std ?).....nicer gauge with more readable layout. If I were in UK ( I'm in the US), I would go for the Medley because I'd be riding more for commutes than just fun rides and a few errands
I am about to buy one of these for 1200 euros from 2016 looks quite the same though, 30 000km do you thunk the mileage is a bit high for that price ?
Not really for us to say to be honest, might be best to get it looked over and confirmed as in good condition before buying!
Nothing to do with the scooter, I have a GoPro hero 8 chin mounted with media mod. How are you recording audio within this video? I can't see any microphone attached? Are you using the GoPro box with wire instead?
We don't record audio straight to the GoPro. We have a separate sound recorder which we place in a jacket pocket and run a lav mic under the jacket and then pop behind the mic itself slightly under cheek pad in the helmet which holds it into place.
If you consider the liberty has the same engine as the Vespa primavera and sprint, it's really good value! I agree it's a shame about the rear drum brake, exactly the same issue as the Vespa.
Great comment! I think the Liberty is a great option at this price point. Many other models still pack a rear drum too such as the D'elight and PCX
@@BikeMatters I actually considered buying a new primavera, but due to the drum brake and 11/12 inch wheels I bought the Honda SH125i.
I've done nearly 3000 miles on the SH, and find the larger 16 inch wheels a great help. The brakes are just amazing. I even feel the traction control kick in now and then. I did around 32000 miles on my primavera and came off at reasonably slow speeds 3 times, 2 were my own fault, 1 a drunk driver.
All 3 at night during rain.
I think the SH would have kept me up all 3 times. Note my vespa is 2014 so no abs and 11 inch wheels. I had to buy my bike unseen thanks to the scamdemic.
I could not test ride anything. It was all done on spec and watching reviews, not unlike yours.
My choice was helped by a Maltese reviewer paqpaq, who did reviews of all the bikes I considered.
@@1960ARC "SCAMDEMIC" Hahaha. It's good that more people are seeing these lockdowns and covid madness for what it is.
@@ChingLan3000 what I don't understand is why people allow an experimental drug that has had no trials and has no liability into their body.
When it has been shown statistically risk from the cold is 0.04%.
I'm working through the reviews on this channel, they are very good!
@Alex Ptc I agree with you, but do neither. I've also reduced sugar and now aware the most important factor to health is pH.
Hello! Thank you for the video! Could you please advise if a 50cc scooter is sufficient for the city, or is it considered too small? I'm thinking of getting a scooter for city commuting.
Hey, if you're going to need to commute on dual carriageway, or national speed limit roads, it would probably be best to bump up to a 125cc scoot.
@@BikeMatters Thank you for your answer!
I have the 2022 Liberty 125 S - I’m around 5ft 11in tall and 14 1/2 stone and on a decent run I can get it to 64mph. It’s a great little Scooter. My main ride is a Ducati 939 Supersport….thanks for the video it helped me decide to get the Liberty.
hello sir,i am 6 foot 1,do you think that i am going to be able to fit in this piaggio?
Test it out in person is always best, but would think you should be OK
Did you try him on bigger hill, did he have power?
Afcourse
the italian translation of abs in abdominals lol...
Can we hear the sounds to
I live in America and driven over 100,000 miles on vespas I am thinking of the liberty 150 now. Price is so good at $ 3000. I love 2011 Vespa 300 gts but the liberty will make me think twice about getting on highways
Very few Euro scooters still use a rear drum brake because that doesn't allow for the combined brakes required under the new regulations. I guess the Piaggio's front ABS qualifies as ABS brakes even though it's only on the front, bypassing the combined brakes requirement?
Abs is more important on the front wheel anyway.
You can recover a back wheel skid, I think it's luck if you recover a front wheel skid, it's over in a split second!
The honda navi has combined brakes. And that has drum brakes front and rear.
@@JDMz It's easy to combine front and rear cable operated drums, or front and rear hydraulic discs. It's not so easy to combine a cable brake on one end with a hydraulic brake on the other end.
I must admit, I do like the rear drum brake. It’s cable operated and can be adjusted in seconds with an adjustable spanner. It’s extremely simplistic, you get no brake dust near the engine / gearbox and it’s still powerful enough to lock the back wheel if required.
About 5 years ago, I had the fly 125 that would do About 65 max and would do 55 to just under 60 all day
Was that how fast the scooter actually went, or what the speedometer was indicating? Speedos on scooters are notoriously optimistic. I once had a 250 that would do an indicated 90 mph, at which point it was doing a true 72 mph.
@@barryervin8536 on my own Liberty abs , there is a 5% difference between the speedometer and the gps speed. When it reads 100 km/h you are actually at 95 km/h.
I used to ride it on the motorway, and I was able to go faster than most HGVs
It had a speed limiter, which was around 65 mph
I'm a motorcycle mechanic, and I've just picked a 2022 piaggio liberty 125 abs. It's only got 5,000K on the clock. The owner said that he was riding on a A road when something sharp on the road got flicked up by the front wheel and it managed to pearce the oil filter which mounted under the exhaust on the rhs of the engine. It quickly lost all its oil and the engine ground to a hault. Very much a freak accident, the like of which I've never seen as mechanic before. Poor guy got quoted £2,000 to replace the engine. Bearing in mind new liberty is only £2,700. He decided to buy a new one. I bought the scooter off him and rebuilt the engine at the cost of £100 in parts. I must say that it does show that its a budget scooter. Its no very well built. For instance, the indicator switch doesn't alway work when you switch it to the left side. There is corrosion on the engine casings and other metal parts too. For a scooter with such low mileage and not even a year old, this shows that it's not very well made.
Why are disc brakes preferred over drum breaks??
Simply, Its better. More power, Also cooling is much better whit disk brakes.
@@TDH8988 Yes... and discs are infinitely better than drums in the wet. Drums are so out-dated. Also, nobody mentioned the single rear shock. Come on Piaggio!
Must admit I prefer rear drums. Less brake dust on the wheels and near the engine / gearbox. Cable operated and can be adjusted in seconds with an adjustable spanner if required. No hydraulics to worry about, and still powerful enough to lock the back wheel.
How does this bike compare to say a 125cc Honda scooter?
This will keep up with a pcx. But not the forza.
There’s quite a difference in 125cc power - even with the same manufacturer. The Piaggio Medley has around 15hp, and this Liberty has 11hp.
Think the Hondas have different powers as well. For example the 125cc Grom and Monkey are only 9hp, but think they do more powerful 125cc’s
Nice but here is a few negatives. Fuel tank really hard to top off because of shape of tank. kmph on outside of speedo. Air cooled engine may be a good one but mpg is really only about 80mpg. So you will be topping it up a lot. But the reaL BIGGY problem is that honda do a watercooled 125 mode with better everything but looks for 3050 otr.
I’m running a Vespa Sprint with the same 125cc powertrain. Over the first 600 miles, I’ve averaged 155mpg (U.K. imperial), and the high has been 180mpg - all on the air cooled engine, so no need to worry about coolant etc.
I did go for the model with the full digital dash though - so I can only see miles OR kilometres (I can change this in the settings).
Price please
The guy in video states that they retail usually for £2,700 and for the sport version £2,800. I am looking at getting the sport version after passing my CBT booked for next month.
@@ChingLan3000 how you liking it?
What does ABS mean?
Anti-lock Braking System
Anti block system
The fact one cannot fit a helmet under the seat is discouraging. There are similar scooters with more storage space.
Piaggio make their own helmets that fit
How tall are you?
A mighty 5ft6
@@BikeMatters Do you think 6ft2 might be a problem ?
@@d3c3 Couldn't really say for certain it's what is best fro you! Might be worth going to sit on one to try it out
@@d3c3 tough to say, really best checking it out at a dealer in person and having a sit to see how it feels.
@@BikeMatters What do you think for an even mightier 5ft4??
I bought mine, few days ago.. it’s 50cc , it’s too slow 😩, but it’s nice and very comfortable....
It may be restricted, so you might get a bit more out of it, if you haven't seen it, worth watching Robot on Vespa Motorsport. He does a lot of videos on the Vespa and Piaggio. Pretty sure he's done a vid on getting more out of the 50. He's done vids on servicing the primavera ie belt change, it's pretty much the same on the liberty.
It depends on if your 50 has a carb or is fuel injected? Ride safe.
@@1960ARC with 4 stroke 50s you'll barely get 40mph plus out of them. Not like the older 2 strokes that would do 50 to 55mph
i don't care about digital dash. as little electronics as possible. i want reliable transport not a smart phone. better brakes are far more essential
I hate these just got one as a hire scooter, never felt so vulnerable
Oh really?......... I find that comment very bizarre? I own one it's brilliant!!! better than the Honda I owned before in everything!
Puts me off straight away when manufacturers can't be bothered to supply mph speedo
There is MPH on the speedo, unfortunately under the KMH which can be confusing
I found this annoying too on my Vespa, I guess cause of my age. But it didn't put me off the Vespa, Speedo is pretty optimistic anyway. Would look like 70 mph when gps showed 65.
@@1960ARC pretty much standard for all speedometer only illegal when it reads slower than actual speed
But it shows mph at the bottom. Lol