Rapper Reacts to Epic Rap Battles Of History!! | J.R.R. Tolkien vs George R.R. Martin (LETS GO!!)

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  • Rapper reacts to Epic Rap Battles of History and tries to break his brain. J.R.R. Tolkien vs. George R.R. Martin - who won?
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  • @KnoxHill
    @KnoxHill  Před 3 lety +278

    What else should we react to? 🤔 Comment below! Also if you like the song in the intro check out ‘I Get Lonely’ now czcams.com/video/MGRbKVoBhI0/video.html

    • @ShadowStudiosFilms
      @ShadowStudiosFilms Před 3 lety +11

      Hey Knox! Love your videos, amazing reactions to some of my favourite rappers. And now ERB? So happy. You should watch Thor vs Zeus 😃 and Hannibal vs Jack the Ripper 👌 two amazing rap battles. If you want to see one where noone wins, watch the two titans Theodore Roosevelt vs Winston Churchill. Peace and love brother

    • @fatdevil1978
      @fatdevil1978 Před 3 lety +9

      Adolf Hitler vs Darth Vader trilogy!.

    • @c4s595
      @c4s595 Před 3 lety +1

      vlad the impaler vs count dracula

    • @diamonds9120
      @diamonds9120 Před 3 lety +7

      Yo I love these ERB breakdowns, always excellent and I'd love to see more. Thor vs. Zeus is real good, I think Stevie Wonder vs. Wonder Woman is some of the best wordplay they got, ditto for James bond vs. Austin Powers. Also Steven Spielberg vs. Alfred Hitchcock if you're into film

    • @Blackjackk777
      @Blackjackk777 Před 3 lety +1

      It’s Aragorn 😭😭 not Eragon! Tho it’s one of the best books ever!! I would say the Darth Vader Trilogy! Also on Chaos Theory, I get lonely has been my favorite song! I’m going to buy merch from you on my pay day!!! Keep up the amazing work my guy!

  • @EpicLLOYD
    @EpicLLOYD Před 3 lety +3949

    Nice breakdown my man. Thanks for watching.

    • @mvjokerdavis5094
      @mvjokerdavis5094 Před 3 lety +221

      hey EpicLLOYD. Hope you and Peter are doing well.

    • @KnoxHill
      @KnoxHill  Před 3 lety +1008

      Man this series is amazing! Thank you for all of your hard work put in over the years and for giving us all content like this. Much love and respect 🙏🔥

    • @kingclint2382
      @kingclint2382 Před 3 lety +31

      Eyy Lloyd

    • @fidel_manuwa1827
      @fidel_manuwa1827 Před 3 lety +27

      @@kingclint2382 Nothing to see here just 4 legends reading each others comment's

    • @lorcanzo2498
      @lorcanzo2498 Před 3 lety +26

      @@fidel_manuwa1827 us mortals shouldnt be here

  • @omargoodman2999
    @omargoodman2999 Před 3 lety +2076

    Tolkien didn't even want to be a writer. His great love was linguistics and he wanted to create living languages. But for them to truly be *living,* they needed a world in which to live. So he didn't create the languages for the world; he created the world for the languages.

    • @sorrowdusk5068
      @sorrowdusk5068 Před 3 lety +132

      he was also a professor in medieval languages.

    • @dancingcarapace
      @dancingcarapace Před 3 lety +187

      I also imagine creating the world of Middle Earth was subconsciously a coping mechanism after the Great War. Back in those days, PTSD wasn’t identified and was known as Shell Shock. They simply thought it was temporary.

    • @Ragnarok2kx
      @Ragnarok2kx Před 3 lety +119

      ​@@dancingcarapace They also thought that it was a physical thing, kinda like a concussion, product of being constantly exposed to the shockwaves from blasts of artillery fire. It was hard to explain at the time how it affected brave, mentally stable people if it was "just a psychological phenomenon"

    • @dancingcarapace
      @dancingcarapace Před 3 lety +78

      @@Ragnarok2kx true, hence the name Shell Shock. They thought it was caused by the artillery shells and not watching your friends get ripped to ribbons by machine guns in the trenches

    • @teamcybr8375
      @teamcybr8375 Před 3 lety +48

      @@dancingcarapace You can see how the idea of a simple battle of simple good vs unfathomable evil could be comforting to a veteran of a war like WWI where everyone was guilty and there was no real reason for it to be necessary.

  • @Scorpio1721
    @Scorpio1721 Před 3 lety +1350

    Don't forget Tolkien's first battle diss...when he appears in the "intro" he removed the One Ring and put it in his pocket, a reference to Riddles in the Dark and the fact he didn't need its power to win

    • @jaydehaas15
      @jaydehaas15 Před 3 lety +107

      Good observation man. Seriously, watching knox and these comments, really gives another dimension to the ERB..

    • @codycross172
      @codycross172 Před 3 lety +33

      not gonna lie, I thought I was the only that noticed that. Excellent eyes my friend.

    • @itsmezed
      @itsmezed Před 3 lety +7

      Nice catch!

    • @WisteriaDrake
      @WisteriaDrake Před 2 lety +14

      Also a reference to The Hobbit, when Bilbo Baggins confronted Golem: "What's in my pocket?"

    • @vintage-radio
      @vintage-radio Před 5 měsíci +1

      I noticed him removing the ring, but I didn't know it was a diss. cool

  • @MrKleinM
    @MrKleinM Před 3 lety +977

    CS Lewis wasn't a fantasy writer but Tolkien challenged him to write a fantasy novel and then he wrote Chronicles of Narnia. They were really good friends

    • @kyletucker3811
      @kyletucker3811 Před 3 lety +111

      I knew they were friends, but didn't know that story. So basically one of my favorite series as a kid was basically written on a dare? Cool.

    • @rebeccaharman803
      @rebeccaharman803 Před 3 lety +25

      The santa bit of the lion the witch and the wardrobe almost ruined their friendship

    • @gandalf_thegrey
      @gandalf_thegrey Před 3 lety +57

      Hey bro, you saw this fantasy thing I wrote? Do one too.
      Nah. I don't think I'm good with that, sorry
      Common, do it
      Kay.
      *Writes an age breaker of a book*

    • @twentyninerooks
      @twentyninerooks Před 3 lety +8

      That's totally incorrect. Lewis was a fantasy writer, ever since he was at a train station, and picked up a copy of George MacDonald's "Phantasies." Which he then later introduced Tolkien to. You cannot understand either Lewis or Tolkien, or W.H. Auden, or Lewis Carroll, or Madeline L'Engle, or Neil Gaiman without reading George MacDonald.

    • @twentyninerooks
      @twentyninerooks Před 3 lety +5

      Also L. Frank Baum, the writer of The Wizard of Oz was heavily inspired by MacDonald. So, yeah. It was MacDonald that made Lewis into a fantasy writer, not Tolkien.

  • @heroofcanton101
    @heroofcanton101 Před 3 lety +623

    "Got my children making million off my Silmarillions" is a much more literal reference too. The Silmarils were three flawless gems, and Tolkien has three big stories that are still hugely valuable to this day, The Hobbit, LotR and The Silmarillion itself.
    His kids are still making huge money off of his three legendary creations.

    • @mrroboshadow
      @mrroboshadow Před 3 lety +55

      imagine being such a famous author that your children's children will have enough money to live in the lap of luxury and still have plenty left over for the next generations to do the same

    • @gandalf_thegrey
      @gandalf_thegrey Před 3 lety +6

      Didn't his children finished one of his works? So they don't just make money of it, but have a part in writing too? Or do I recall wrong?

    • @mrroboshadow
      @mrroboshadow Před 3 lety +16

      @@gandalf_thegrey might have
      our point was more that they dont need to lift a finger to live comfortably because tolkien's work is so famous
      we werent saying they were lazy just that they could, if they wanted to, not work a day in their lives

    • @gandalf_thegrey
      @gandalf_thegrey Před 3 lety +3

      @@mrroboshadow Oh I didn't want to come of as if I wanted to put words in your mouths, I'm sorry.
      It was just a genuine question :D

    • @mrroboshadow
      @mrroboshadow Před 3 lety +3

      @@gandalf_thegrey oh no worries
      i was just clearing up what i meant, didnt mean to come across as defensive or stand off-ish

  • @OtakuJuanma2
    @OtakuJuanma2 Před 3 lety +520

    "it's meant to be unrealistic, you myopic manatee" is my favorite line in the entirety of ERB history.

    • @KnoxHill
      @KnoxHill  Před 3 lety +69

      Haha I’ve only done three but I have to agree so far

    • @jacobmeisel588
      @jacobmeisel588 Před 3 lety +32

      Tolkien has been accused of being an escapist writer. And he shot back, yeah. That’s the point, we don’t need to make more sorrows and woes. Thames are supposed to inspire not bring down

    • @jojobod
      @jojobod Před 2 lety +3

      My argument against this is the fact that unrealistic elements in fantasy is the world itself, not the logic of the events. It’s UNREALISTIC for those events to happen in a world like that

    • @OtakuJuanma2
      @OtakuJuanma2 Před 2 lety +2

      @@jojobod
      Yeah we all know, but the line is hilarious nonetheless.

    • @ginge641
      @ginge641 Před 2 lety +2

      @@jacobmeisel588 Themes aren't supposed to do anything.

  • @ssfbob456
    @ssfbob456 Před 3 lety +776

    In the "stole my R.R." section, Tolkien is flashing the American Sign Language symbol for 'R.' Just another little layer.

    • @jakob3044
      @jakob3044 Před 3 lety +14

      when the hand is a double

    • @giovanniperalta9798
      @giovanniperalta9798 Před 3 lety +7

      @Ángela Sofía Jaime Moreno I think it´s universal

    • @aristedes9449
      @aristedes9449 Před 3 lety +18

      It's also pointing out the fact that, in fact, G.R.M. did in fact steal the R.R. Why? He changed his name to add that second R, he doesn't deserve it.

    • @benverzijlbergen2968
      @benverzijlbergen2968 Před 3 lety +11

      Oh, nice! I thought he was making a hook with his fingers 😅

    • @WafleEnterprises
      @WafleEnterprises Před 3 lety +12

      @@benverzijlbergen2968 That too, and “RR” sounds like a stereotypical pirate

  • @undertakernumberone1
    @undertakernumberone1 Před 3 lety +177

    "All your bad guys die and good guys survive!
    we can tell what's gonna to happen by page and age five!"
    *Sad Boromir and Finrod Felagund, Turin, and general SIlmarillion noises*

    • @Askyl
      @Askyl Před 3 lety +28

      It's all fun and giggles. One of the reasons George RR Martin kills off characters once in a while is because of how he loved the shock of Boromir dying. One of the most traditional "warrior" characters, setup with a perfect redemption arc trying to be better and dies so early in the trilogy.

  • @allycard
    @allycard Před 3 lety +70

    what i love about this is it starts with martin saying "there a new literary lord in the ring" and ends with Tolken "every time i battle it's return of the king" it feels very well rounded.

    • @isabelheiner631
      @isabelheiner631 Před rokem +7

      Also, to add on, Lords bow to Kings!!! Even better

  • @LuxQueensbane
    @LuxQueensbane Před 3 lety +258

    Honestly Tolkien just won in the intro when he literally took off the One Ring to battle.

  • @BFBCFTW
    @BFBCFTW Před 3 lety +92

    A small one you missed with "you can't reach this fellow, shit I'm too towering" is that Tolkien was the Merton Professor of English Language at the University of Oxford and also Fellow of Pembrook College, Oxford and Fellow of Merton College, Oxford.
    So when he says "fellow" he doesn't just mean it like "look at that fellow over there" but it's an actual academic title.

  • @mattiasandersson8693
    @mattiasandersson8693 Před 3 lety +111

    Tolkien actually started by inventing the languages. Then he started imagining what the races were like to witch the languages belonged.

  • @Crosshead
    @Crosshead Před 3 lety +433

    Yeah, the ERB battles continue! Suggestions for next clip: Joker vs. Pennywise or Jordan vs. Ali.

    • @danielleweeks4552
      @danielleweeks4552 Před 3 lety +3

      I would love to see him respond and breakdown to that lol

    • @skechyassmofo
      @skechyassmofo Před 3 lety +7

      Joker vs Pennywise fr

    • @Nox-jx9rz
      @Nox-jx9rz Před 3 lety +12

      for joker vs pennywise he needs some serious history on that one. there is just so many little bits and everything throughout the entire song. like big brain raps.

    • @anthonyferguson9282
      @anthonyferguson9282 Před 3 lety +3

      Joker v pennywise

    • @adclark09
      @adclark09 Před 3 lety +2

      Joker vs Pennywise

  • @NapoleonSoares
    @NapoleonSoares Před 3 lety +193

    "you want a war, George? Welcome to Shir-Iraq." This is an even better play on words than it seems initially because guess who was president of the US when they declared war on "terrorism" and sent troops into Iraq? GEORGE. W. Bush.

    • @Kaydee815
      @Kaydee815 Před 3 lety +32

      It's also a reference to Chicago (I think that's where NicePeter and EpicLloyd met/started); it's often called Chi-raq because of the violence.

    • @Dead_Heir
      @Dead_Heir Před 3 lety +2

      This needs more uovotes

    • @mqurh4977
      @mqurh4977 Před 2 lety +5

      And its probably also a refrence of the scourging of the shire, as in "war in the shire "

  • @artua7461
    @artua7461 Před 2 lety +68

    look, i don't know about some, but personally, I LOVE having the backstory of every tree branch. it adds to the fact that Tolkien wasn't writing a story, he was creating a world, and that world had lore, DEEP lore, and he was so in depth that the immersion level was insanely, high.

    • @colinmerritt7645
      @colinmerritt7645 Před 9 měsíci +2

      And so fell the tree branch of Gil Guriel, born during the chaos of the Second Age and hardened during the fires of the Angarrian Plains. From that branch sprouted but two flowers, one of pink and pale green hue which adorned the hair of a ruby haired shepherdess before she was betrothed to Eduin, Third Cousin to the King of Lebannin. The other flower grew grey and black as if corrupted by malign forces, but came into prominence early in the reigns of the High Stewards as only its sap could bring relief to the fever that ravished that land, brought there by a foul curse from a fallen Numenoran artifact, the eldritch want Syzibor forged during the First Age by...

  • @thomasandersr
    @thomasandersr Před 2 lety +35

    22:40
    Another thing to mention here, is that Tolkien was a "Fellow" (i.e. someone with exceptional academic recognition) of Oxford College, which then also plays into the Fellowship of the Ring.

  • @teamcybr8375
    @teamcybr8375 Před 3 lety +55

    The best description I ever heard is that Tolkien built the sandbox that George is playing in.

  • @lordzeriph
    @lordzeriph Před 3 lety +340

    Knox out here bodying people and then doing erb reactions. Totally dope man. Definitely keep it up

    • @KnoxHill
      @KnoxHill  Před 3 lety +76

      🤣🤣🙌 I do what I want

    • @lordzeriph
      @lordzeriph Před 3 lety +7

      🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @Juan-wr2or
      @Juan-wr2or Před 3 lety +5

      @@KnoxHill Lets go! Had me dying :D. You're the best man.

  • @wotancatro9479
    @wotancatro9479 Před 3 lety +313

    Beauty and the Beast was a rather brilliant series from the late 80s, staring Linda Hamilton and Ron Perlman. Martin wrote some 14 episodes for the series.

    • @exceedcharge1
      @exceedcharge1 Před 3 lety +11

      Ron Perlman, the real manimal

    • @evabartlett4599
      @evabartlett4599 Před 3 lety +4

      Aww, I forgot about that show! I loved it!

    • @zarakikon6352
      @zarakikon6352 Před 3 lety +5

      I kinda remember that show. But totally forgot Ron Perlman was in it.

    • @willparry530
      @willparry530 Před 3 lety +4

      Martin wrote episodes for that show? Huh, neat.

    • @jaimelannister1797
      @jaimelannister1797 Před 3 lety +1

      @@willparry530 yeah he was in a huge financial slump before writing A Game of Thrones and started writing in Hollywood to pay the bills

  • @tobimaster1055
    @tobimaster1055 Před 3 lety +37

    One thing I just noticed is that with the Shire-raq = Iraq wordplay, there was another layer of wordplay there because George W. Bush was the one who pushed for war in Iraq thus leading to "You want a war George"

    • @MKDumas1981
      @MKDumas1981 Před 3 lety +5

      Also, *George* W. Bush referred to Chicago as Chi-raq, because of the violence.

  • @pachacutti1012
    @pachacutti1012 Před 3 lety +265

    Speaking of Cristopher Tolkien, its very sad to say but he did die as of January 2020. He was a great author and did his father proud, rest in peace

    • @frankierodriguez4132
      @frankierodriguez4132 Před 3 lety +11

      Rest In Peace Sir

    • @StupidWeb
      @StupidWeb Před 3 lety +11

      Rest in Peace

    • @LocseryuOfficial
      @LocseryuOfficial Před 2 lety +9

      Rest in Peace

    • @johnterell8642
      @johnterell8642 Před rokem

      Yeah, that's how Prime got to make that bullshit show, that ignores everything. His grandkids, didn't give a shit about protecting his father's legacy, and sold it for money so Amazon made a lotr in name only. That shitty show would have never been allowed under Christopher.

  • @thesterndragoon9159
    @thesterndragoon9159 Před 3 lety +165

    Tolkien: I'm numbers One AND Two; you're under Fifty Shades of Grey!"
    *FLAWLESS VICTORY*
    *FINISH HIM*
    Tolkien: "You're a pirate; you even stole my R.R."
    *FATALITY*
    *RETURN OF THE KING*

  • @PhirePhlame
    @PhirePhlame Před 3 lety +35

    Fun fact: Martin still writes in WordPerfect for DOS. That's what they referenced with the old computer during one of his shots.

    • @clasqm
      @clasqm Před 8 měsíci +1

      I thought it was Wordstar, actually.

  • @Leedark3
    @Leedark3 Před 3 lety +32

    The last line is also great because it mirrors the end of Martin's first verse. In response to Martin calling himself the "literary lord in the ring," Tolkien calls himself the King.

  • @P99s-s
    @P99s-s Před 3 lety +84

    i nominate their best history ones imo: Alexander the great vs. Ivan the Teribble and Stalin vs. Rasputin

  • @ryanpalyo8181
    @ryanpalyo8181 Před 3 lety +124

    Thor vs Zeus has some good disses and wordplay while also being in the lego style harry potter vs luke skywalker was in. Def worth checking that out

  • @TheHalmkopf
    @TheHalmkopf Před 3 lety +78

    Maybe you did not notice, that it looks like a lecture from a professor Tolkien to Martin when Martin sits in a chair. The gestures of Tolkien are at least for me close to a teacher or professor who explains the topic. Also George is reading "The Fellowship of the King" before Tolkiens first part starts. Love your breakdowns of the ERB and I love to see more. I really like the big ones like Rasputin vs Stalin or Ivan the Terrible vs Alexander the Great

  • @mannistef
    @mannistef Před 3 lety +38

    Knox, you are about to become a legend in the ERB reaction world after seeing your first three reactions.
    A couple of fun facts: Tolkien did study Icelandic and used it e.g. around the Rohirrim and the Dwarves and he had an Icelandic babysitter in the 30's that did give some nice insight in their family life when she was interviewed in her old age.
    Greetings from Iceland.

    • @bigboss4178
      @bigboss4178 Před 3 lety

      very interesting insight

    • @pohjanakka4992
      @pohjanakka4992 Před 2 lety +2

      And he learned Finnish so he could read Kalevala in the original language, Turin Turambar's story in Silmarillion is based on the story of Kullervo from Kalevala, and one of his languages, Quenya, is based on Finnish. And if you want dark, Turin's story, as well as some other stories in Silmarillion, are pretty dark even if you compare them to GOT (I'm only familiar with the series though, and haven't seen all of it, I have had enough darkness in my life to not enjoy reading "realistic" all that much).
      When the Finnish translation of Lord of the Rings was published I remember a magazine article claiming that he had read it, and given the ultimate compliment to the translator, claiming that he had actually found the translation better than his own original writing. Frankly, I don't know if that is true or not, I have not been able to find anything about that online and no longer even remember where that story was published, I was a young teen when I read it and that was a (mumble) of decades ago, but I do have a fairly clear seeming memory of it. And maybe if he said he said it just to be polite, but he seemed to like Finnish as a language.

  • @weatwoodbello3121
    @weatwoodbello3121 Před 3 lety +49

    "I will fight you on the comments". I inhaled a mouth full of beer and went into a coughing fit that made my neighbor come check on me.
    So fucking funny, I'm loving this!

    • @MKDumas1981
      @MKDumas1981 Před 3 lety +3

      "I'll fight you on the beaches; I'll fight you on the beats, yes!"

    • @asantesanders9518
      @asantesanders9518 Před 2 lety

      @@MKDumas1981 "Anywhere you want to fight I'll fight ya and I'll beat ya see!"

  • @kingclint2382
    @kingclint2382 Před 3 lety +93

    Tolkien killed this one 💣💥.
    You must be proud being LOTR fan 😂

  • @metaphase-
    @metaphase- Před 3 lety +23

    Martin playing the RPG on his computer is a reference to how he writes. Martin uses an ancient text program that only runs on DOS. He does this because he claims modern word processing programs interfere too much with his writing. (Spell and grammar check, page formatting, etc.)

  • @dancingcarapace
    @dancingcarapace Před 3 lety +78

    Dude, you didn’t lose cred, you gained it. Real dudes recognise quality literature

  • @cerebralfailure8804
    @cerebralfailure8804 Před 3 lety +161

    would be tough to beat Tolkien in word play, after all he studied language for fun so much he was able to create his own

    • @ruthdeckman9781
      @ruthdeckman9781 Před 2 lety +8

      Also, I believe he quite literally wrote the dictionary.

    • @vexaris1890
      @vexaris1890 Před 2 lety +3

      Not for fun, it was his profession.

    • @--CHARLIE--
      @--CHARLIE-- Před 2 lety +3

      @@vexaris1890 but he also found it fun. Hence why it ended up becoming his profession eventually.

    • @Yuni-is-Schrodingers-Fox
      @Yuni-is-Schrodingers-Fox Před 3 měsíci

      ​@@vexaris1890some people actually enjoy their jobs as hard as it may be for you to believe

  • @valkyrie283
    @valkyrie283 Před 3 lety +50

    The very foundation of modern fantasy was actually laid by Tolkien. Almost every standard fantasy race and mechanic can be traced back to his works.
    Edit: Modern Western Fantasy

  • @AndragonLea
    @AndragonLea Před 3 lety +11

    The point for Game of Thrones being more mainstream could actually be given to Tolkien because his work and the slow but steady dissemination of the LOTR series through-out the world that finally resulted in the billion dollar successes of the movies arguably paved the way for GoT to become so widely accepted in the first place.
    R. R. Martin was so visible because he was standing on the shoulders of one of the biggest fantasy giants to date.

  • @nickibridges2898
    @nickibridges2898 Před 3 lety +10

    The true joy in your face as some of the punches hit was priceless! Great job Knox!

  • @williameldridge9382
    @williameldridge9382 Před 3 lety +86

    One slight correction. The Fellowship of the Ring, The Two Towers, and The Return of the King are in fact NOT books in and of themselves. They are volumes of ONE book, called The Lord of the Rings. The reason it was split into three volumes is because of the publisher and economic reasons. Its original intent was for it to be one of two volumes, with the Silmarillion being the second volume, but the publisher did like that because the time it would take and economic reasons. That was why he is #1 (The Hobbit) and #2 (The Lord of the Rings) in book sales, the reference in the battle, because Lord of the Rings is in fact ONE book. The Lord of the Rings is often sold as a Trilogy so it's numbers are bit more obscured, but each of them are estimated at over 150 million copies sold each. Followed third by Harry Potter and the Philosopher's stone. Martin's entire franchise has only sold 90 million copies, and Fifty Shades of Grey sold 15.2 million copies as ONE book.
    Older books have troubles tracking actual book sales, because tracking of book sales is a VERY modern thing, so sales of things like Don Quixote are at best wildly speculative estimations. I've never even SEEN a copy of Don Quixote, let alone read it. Whereas you cannot throw a rock without hitting The Lord of the Rings books or movies.
    As far as the Beauty and Beast reference, it refers to an old 1987 CBS fantasy romance series called Beauty and the Beast, he was a writer on that show for all three seasons.

    • @Yuni-is-Schrodingers-Fox
      @Yuni-is-Schrodingers-Fox Před 2 lety +4

      I thought Don Quixote was the best selling novel of all time though? Didn't it sell around 500 million copies?

    • @CrippledMerc
      @CrippledMerc Před 2 lety +4

      @@Yuni-is-Schrodingers-Fox That’s exactly what he’s pointing out... Older books are more of an estimate than actual sales numbers. He’s saying those older numbers can be wildly inaccurate because they’re estimations, and because of the fact that he’s never seen a copy of Don Quixote but he’s seen tons of copies of LotR it would imply that LotR has probably sold more copies. And it’s the same for me, I’ve personally never seen a copy of Don Quixote either but I’ve seen a lot of LotR, and I even own a set of the LotR books.
      I have no clue how they do the estimations for the amount of copies sold for older books and I never really pay attention to that stuff anyways. It just doesn’t matter to me.

  • @turinturambar1688
    @turinturambar1688 Před 3 lety +30

    “All your bad guys die your good guys survive” cough cough silmarilion... also Turin, even then good didn’t beat evil, evil brought about its own doom (if not for the corruption of Gollum, the ring would never be destroyed)
    “Chance and anarchy” in Tolkien’s works there is no chance

  • @daelaenor
    @daelaenor Před 3 lety +16

    I JUST finished the trilogy again, and man... the last 30 minutes will never fail to hit you right in the feels.

  • @craigwoodward8455
    @craigwoodward8455 Před 3 lety +41

    YOU MISSED SOMETHING!!!
    "you're a Pirate, you even stoll my RR", when he said this, his fingers were wrapped together... thats the sign language for pirate, because it's like a hook on the hand, AND it looks like your fingers make a lower case 'r'.
    Edit: I beleive the beauty and the beast line is in reference to George rr Martin cutting his 'television teeth' on episodes of the beauty and the beast live action series that was done.

    • @themimsy
      @themimsy Před 3 lety +3

      no, it's the sign language sign for the letter R but then he curved it a little to look like a pirate hook. close tho!

    • @xtravagentk1275
      @xtravagentk1275 Před 3 lety +2

      Definitely not the sign for "Pirate". It's the letter R like Mimsy said.

  • @franciscomoreira819
    @franciscomoreira819 Před 3 lety +70

    I was hoping for the day you start reacting to ERB. Check Oppenheimer vs Thanos and Joker vs Pennywise that ones are dope! Love from Argentina Knox, keep doing like this!

  • @Revenant-oq9ts
    @Revenant-oq9ts Před 3 lety +14

    Technically Tolkien developed the languages first iirc.
    He then worldbuilt around the languages and THEN wrote the stories within them.

  • @cyanide7270
    @cyanide7270 Před 3 lety +27

    Thats the thing about "going too deep" though, Tolkien, DID create a universe. Martin just took what we know from history and mythos and built a world, Tolkien, built, a, UNIVERSE. Even the spoken languages in a Song of Ice and Fire are just rehashes of languages we have today, fucking Dothraki is predominantly Maori and Samoan FFS!, whats Elvish and the Black Speech based on? NOTHING, theyre ENTIRELY new languages!
    One could argue that going too deep is too far, but i have nothing but admiration for that kind of dedication to your craft, and thats why Martin will NEVER be equal to Tolkien.

    • @yukisaito1529
      @yukisaito1529 Před 3 lety +4

      Of course Tolkien created a universe - as you call it - but actually a creation myth based on the Norse sagas, because England doesn't have such a thing.
      He drew heavily on the Finnish creation myth Kalevala, the Ring of the Nibelungs/Siegfried, Beowulf and Icelandic saga literature. Tolkien also drew on stories from classical Greek mythology and heroic epic poetry, such as the Homeric Iliad or Plato's depiction of the sinking of Atlantis, as well as various fairy tale motifs as written down by the Brothers Grimm.
      The Children of Hurin (one of my favourite Tolkien books) has many parallels to Kullervo (The Story of Kullervo). Túrin kills his comrade Beleg, marries his sister Nienor and all this while fleeing from an imposed fate. When the two realise that they are siblings, Nienor throws herself into a river and Túrin into his sword. Their father Húrin has to watch everything and cannot intervene.
      That Elvish and the Black Language of Mordor are not based on any worldly language is also wrong.
      Elvish has two important dialects that have been developed in the most detail. Sindarin and Quenya.
      While Quenya was not the first language Tolkien invented (he had attempted a further development of Gothic, for instance, before that), it was the first of those languages he later integrated into his mythology. In 1912, Tolkien discovered the Finnish language. He was so impressed by the experience of reading the Finnish national epic Kalevala that he decided to invent his own language based on Finnish phonetics, which he found particularly beautiful. Unlike its successor Sindarin, Quenya can be described as an inflectional language inspired by Finnish. It knows ten cases and four numerals and thus has more pronounced declensions than the original Indo-European language. However, with five tenses, no distinct passive voice, and modes indicated only syntactically or by particles, the verbal morphology is very limited compared to Indo-European.
      Sindarin was the language of the Sindar (Grey Elves, Teleri) in the First Age and later spread among the other Elves. Tolkien left less written material on Sindarin than on Quenya, so only the basic features of Sindarin can be clarified today.
      J. R. R. Tolkien liked the Welsh language. Some grammatical and especially phonological features of Sindarin can be traced back to Welsh. For example, the anlaut mutations, which are an innovation of the island Celtic languages within the Indo-European language family. However, the language can certainly be described as "real", since Sindarin also has a predecessor language from which all its roots can be derived.
      I hope this has helped you a little! :)

    • @darioluque9079
      @darioluque9079 Před 3 lety +3

      I love that somebody knows that Quenya is a type of Finnish and Sindarin is a type of Welsh.

  • @brandyanderson3522
    @brandyanderson3522 Před 3 lety +21

    My ERB suggestions is for:
    -Joker vs Pennywise
    -Thanos vs Oppenheimer
    -Alexander the Great vs Ivan the Terrible

  • @wristcontr0l
    @wristcontr0l Před 3 lety +128

    If you're doing ERB's greatest hits, make sure to check out James Bond vs Austin Powers, you'll love it!

  • @asmariamoon
    @asmariamoon Před 3 lety +9

    A little side-fact: the game George is playing on the computer is Zork, a classic text-based adventure game.

    • @fullmetaltheorist
      @fullmetaltheorist Před 2 lety +3

      And another fact that people didn't pick up on is that George uses an old computer like the one featured in the video to type his books.

    • @ingiford175
      @ingiford175 Před 2 lety +2

      I remember playing the Zork series when I was young. My god that dates me badly

  • @johnaldridge8611
    @johnaldridge8611 Před 3 lety +3

    The Beauty and the Beast line came from the fact that Martin was a writer for the 1987 TV series.

  • @18turps
    @18turps Před 3 lety +8

    I love seeing a fellow Tolkien lover loving this. You can see how happy you were the whole time. It is one of my favourite ERB's for sure.

  • @MrPhlanj
    @MrPhlanj Před 3 lety +23

    Sir Isaac Newton vs Bill Nye is great but a bit short.

    • @madmastah2503
      @madmastah2503 Před 3 lety +1

      I really want to see him react to who played Newton, and the equation bit, SO BAD

  • @BoydOfPray
    @BoydOfPray Před 3 lety +7

    I'm really glad you caught that last bar. I missed it every time until it was pointed out to me, but it's honestly one of the sneakiest, clever bars I heard in awhile.

  • @SnibediSnabs
    @SnibediSnabs Před 3 lety +53

    I feel like this whole battle is unfair as hell. Like no offense to GRRM, he's one of my favorite authors, but Tolkien was quite literally the big daddy of the entire fantasy genre.

    • @TrueBladeSoul
      @TrueBladeSoul Před 3 lety +4

      One of the reasons that game of thrones is so different from lord of the rings is because Martin knew that he couldn’t match what lord of the rings achieved in that style of fantasy

    • @sethyarbrough5204
      @sethyarbrough5204 Před 3 lety

      He tried to play game of thrones with Tolkien for the fantasy genre, but there was one Mordor that he could not pass

    • @B.Scruby
      @B.Scruby Před 3 lety +2

      The Renegades React Channel had stated this too. They're not contemporaries at all. C.S Lewis, would have been a better match for Tolkien, but the pairing had to make sense in an easily understandable way. So it had to be Tolkien and Martin.
      They could tried with one of Martin's contemporaries though, since has a lot of them, but are less blockbuster Hollywood like him. You got Gaiman, Prachett, etc. Hell, they coulda even tried with Rowling. But it still wouldn't have worked as well as the matching "R.R."s on their names during the intros.

    • @jaimelannister1797
      @jaimelannister1797 Před 3 lety +2

      Yeah GRRM would probably agree it’s an unfair matchup. He loves Tolkien and credits it as his biggest influence, and rereads it every couple years

  • @OpDDay2001
    @OpDDay2001 Před 3 lety +12

    I'd also recommend Thanos vs Oppenheimer. Again, a very one-sided battle but one of their best produced and best performed videos/songs. So many good ERBs I've forgotten about. lol

  • @assassin_5656
    @assassin_5656 Před 3 lety +13

    I highly recommend Zeus vs Thor Epic Rap Battles of History. Some of the most savage bars in ERB history

  • @kingclint2382
    @kingclint2382 Před 3 lety +9

    Nasty Knox, Nerdy Knox.
    We love em all 😂

  • @mr.supporter4u
    @mr.supporter4u Před 3 lety +4

    Knox: I'm Picking the Ones I Know the most about.
    Me: It's A Simple Spell But Quite Effective.

  • @lure3601
    @lure3601 Před 3 lety +10

    When he realized Tolkien had a fire ending.

  • @seanb390
    @seanb390 Před 3 lety +102

    This breakdown is one big spoiler warning.
    This was a fun one.

    • @thecmancan
      @thecmancan Před 3 lety +4

      Books been out for decades.

    • @TheMetalheadWeeb
      @TheMetalheadWeeb Před 3 lety +2

      @@thecmancan These are a coming of age for some people, people still read em

    • @odile8701
      @odile8701 Před 3 lety +5

      If you’re worried about spoilers, maybe don’t click on a CZcams video that says in the title it’s about the thing you don’t want spoiled.

  • @ryanager8029
    @ryanager8029 Před 3 lety +4

    The main 3 I’d recommend checking out next are Thor vs Zeus, Alexander the Great vs Ivan the Terrible and Joker vs Pennywise.

  • @TheGoauldApophis
    @TheGoauldApophis Před 3 lety +6

    Almost no one catches that he named all three books. And only you reacted to it reacted the way I did.

  • @iplaybass6690
    @iplaybass6690 Před 3 lety +2

    led zeppelin reference, here are some lyrics from Ramble on ....
    "How years ago in days of old
    When magic filled the air
    'T was in the darkest depths of Mordor
    I met a girl so fair
    But Gollum, and the evil one
    Crept up and slipped away with her
    Her, her, yeah
    Ain't nothing I can do, no"

  • @ItzBerg
    @ItzBerg Před 3 lety +14

    ERB Darth Vader vs Hitler.. 3 parts to this beef. The Force is with the bars

    • @leonmorte7241
      @leonmorte7241 Před 3 lety +1

      Honestly I think Hitler won the majority in those ERB's, only losing the final one, and the only reason people say different is cause he's Hitler. Vader had next to no good diss' in the first two battles while Hitler had at least two each battle, until the third where I think they just intentionally gave him not-as-good raps so they could lay the whole thing to rest and say Vader won, plus at that point Hitler had so little to diss Vader with, while it feels like they left the best diss against Hitler for that last battle.

    • @insanelynerdy649
      @insanelynerdy649 Před 3 lety

      What’s the very, very worst thing about prison?

  • @vladalex3561
    @vladalex3561 Před 3 lety +4

    Much love Knox! I can’t get enough of your content and that diss track was something else bro, looking forward to Saturday’s stream! keep them coming!

  • @henryrobert5917
    @henryrobert5917 Před 3 lety +1

    I'm so glad you got the fellow-shit, two towering and return of the king bars, so many miss this. One of my favorite battles ever

  • @Andyhandz
    @Andyhandz Před 3 lety +2

    Knox: There was no dwarves in GoT
    *Tirion Lannister is crying*

  • @jleisman8800
    @jleisman8800 Před 3 lety +5

    Ah, Yes, J.R.R Tolkien vs We Skeem, My favorite rap battle from ERB. Two men whom I respect and ERB doing this battle is going back to their roots of choosing battle match-ups randomly

  • @rinoaleonhart939
    @rinoaleonhart939 Před 3 lety +8

    Alexander the Great vs Ivan the Terrible please

  • @ksamuel9
    @ksamuel9 Před 3 lety +8

    Also, keep in mind that Tolkien was a devout Catholic and that's evident in his stories where good (God) triumphs over evil.

  • @JourneywiththeJoyners
    @JourneywiththeJoyners Před 3 lety +4

    Lol Knox getting deep with that lore knowledge!!!! Loving it man

  • @mistertwister2000
    @mistertwister2000 Před 3 lety +6

    I really doubted Martin could’ve won this. He had some great lines but Tolkien’s reputation just murders him.
    It’s like Oppenheimer vs Thanos, Thanos might have done far worse but Oppenheimer was a real dude, he almost got guaranteed the win.

  • @Tholen3
    @Tholen3 Před 3 lety +8

    Cool dude, im personally definitely digging these breakdowns. Tolkien preferred winner for sure.
    Thanos vs Oppenheimer or Dr Suess vs Shakespeare.
    Also check out Sage Francis/NonProphets.

  • @melissasue3863
    @melissasue3863 Před 3 lety +1

    Awesome reaction. Keep busting out your inner nerd, it’s a good look.
    Just FYI when the “you even stole my RR” is said Tolkien is making the letter R in sign language.

  • @Talaerus
    @Talaerus Před 3 lety +1

    These are absolutely my favorite breakdowns. Super well done, man!
    Also, awesome music in the intros! Will give a listen to the album.

  • @eternalkickman5128
    @eternalkickman5128 Před 3 lety +3

    Knox This was easily the best breakdown of this battle I've ever seen man good stuff!! keep up the grind man you are gonna blow up heavy man mili coming to you

  • @akhineshs2754
    @akhineshs2754 Před 3 lety +5

    Congrats on you your diss track broo . Thats was some dope fucking piece 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

  • @Bleeglesplotch
    @Bleeglesplotch Před 3 lety

    I can't believe it took me so long to find your channel. I've literally spent all day watching so many of your breakdowns and now I see why you get all the respect you receive and deserve.

  • @hiastram1145
    @hiastram1145 Před rokem +2

    Not sure if someone else mentioned it yet, but when Tolkien says "you even stole my R.R." his hand is signing the letter "R" in sign language. At least American Sign Language anyway. I feel like that can easily be missed and I thought it was cool.

  • @pokedoctor2087
    @pokedoctor2087 Před 3 lety +4

    Martin is writing his books on that old PC, he still writes like that.

    • @theAverageJoe25
      @theAverageJoe25 Před 2 lety

      Maybe he should have finished his books before GOT turned to shit

  • @SuperCookieGaming_
    @SuperCookieGaming_ Před 3 lety +5

    A personal favorite of mine is Thomas Jefferson vs. Fredrick Douglass

  • @slaum02
    @slaum02 Před 3 lety

    holy gosh darn dude. i have watched these so many times but you are showing me things in beast ive never heard. thank you

  • @keepingitrealawesome
    @keepingitrealawesome Před 3 lety +1

    Another amazing video Knox! These epic rap battles are fire 🔥

  • @Paintball013
    @Paintball013 Před 3 lety +6

    Murders, flow switch ups, good punches, you'll enjoy Jack the Ripper Vs Hannibal

  • @hellthiefchrolosnow6833
    @hellthiefchrolosnow6833 Před 3 lety +4

    For the ERB characters you don’t know anything about, I recommend researching them on Wikipedia before recording the reaction/breakdown so you have an idea

  • @ninjassin77
    @ninjassin77 Před 3 lety +1

    Just discovered this channel thanks to the ERB reactions, keep it up

  • @OpDDay2001
    @OpDDay2001 Před 3 lety +5

    "Good artists borrow but great artists steal."

  • @3thosmusic22
    @3thosmusic22 Před 3 lety +9

    If George RR Martin finished the last book the final season of Game of Thrones wouldn’t have sucked

    • @Ballin4Vengeance
      @Ballin4Vengeance Před 3 lety

      He has two books to finish actually

    • @jaimelannister1797
      @jaimelannister1797 Před 3 lety

      Nah the show writers didn’t care about the books and started changing tons of stuff in season 5. Even if the books had been finished they would’ve still botched it. For example in the books Stannis, Mance Rayder, and Ser Barristan are all still alive. They killed them off in season 5.

  • @AVartist2023
    @AVartist2023 Před 5 měsíci +1

    You missed the fact that when he said "You even stole my R.R." he was using the ASL sign for the letter R. Nice subtle move for those of us who catch such things.

  • @pjsin9472
    @pjsin9472 Před 3 lety

    Knox! Brother The new releases freaking amazing. Awesome job bro, awesome. You're up there with the big dogs

  • @Willdreynolds870621
    @Willdreynolds870621 Před 3 lety +4

    Thanos vs Oppenheimer is effing insane!!! Please do that one next!!!!

  • @King-Omega-
    @King-Omega- Před 3 lety +8

    Loving these breakdowns mate, you've earned a new sub here. I'd like to nominate Joker vs Pennywise for you to check out, you'll be there all day breaking down those bars.

  • @psychointent1
    @psychointent1 Před 3 lety +2

    Just going to drop this quote from Led Zepellin's Ramble On
    'Twas in the darkest depths of Mordor
    I met a girl so fair
    But Gollum, and the evil one
    Crept up and slipped away with her

  • @eintracht691
    @eintracht691 Před 3 lety

    I am super glad you stumbled onto these. Loved ERB a long time. Glad to see the appreciation!

  • @nicolasg2612
    @nicolasg2612 Před 3 lety +7

    you should react to Thanos Vs Oppenheimer, there's a lot of cool things going on with that one

  • @kaylamariemarkham5021
    @kaylamariemarkham5021 Před 3 lety +23

    in reference to the beauty and the beast line Martin wrote a fantasy, romance show called beauty and the beast before the disney film. or something like that

    • @Mitwadus
      @Mitwadus Před 3 lety

      Huh. Got any links verifying that?

    • @davidlfort
      @davidlfort Před 3 lety

      There you go, Mitch. Took me about 30 seconds.

    • @RichardRenes
      @RichardRenes Před 3 lety +5

      @@Mitwadus There was this 1980's tv shows starring Ron Perlman and Linda Hamilton. George R. R. Martin was co-written 14 episodes
      www.imdb.com/title/tt0092319/fullcredits/?ref_=tt_ov_st_sm

  • @johncall4733
    @johncall4733 Před 3 lety

    Love that you cover lyrics, production, and the music side all in one! Keep it up

  • @blunthex1871
    @blunthex1871 Před 3 lety

    Thank you knox, keep up the good work.

  • @YTCBlackStar
    @YTCBlackStar Před 3 lety +5

    Do Edgar Allen Poe vs Stephen King

  • @garretthenderson5738
    @garretthenderson5738 Před 3 lety +8

    You missed the "you went too deep" line. It's a double, both dissing Tolkien's insane detailing and referencing the dwarves digging "too deep" and awaking the Balrog.
    And, yes, Martin was a screenwriter on the Beauty and the Beast TV show with Linda Hamilton Ron Perlman.

  • @platonios4666
    @platonios4666 Před 4 měsíci +1

    The first counting of the trolls and elves, etc. is also reminiscent of his writing style with "and and and and"

  • @VTboardgamer
    @VTboardgamer Před 3 lety

    The more of your breakdowns I watch the more and more I'm impressed. Nice job man!