[Skullgirls Mobile] Black Dahlia's VARIANT REVIEW
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- Äas pĆidĂĄn 31. 07. 2024
- A review of all of Black Dahlia's variants! Timestamp:
Intro 00:00
Trigger Happy 01:03
Golden Gunner 02:26
Lethal Weapon 05:10
Dame Slayer 07:12
Soul Crusher 09:03
Psycommander 10:55
Martial Outlaw 12:18
Corrosive Agent 14:30
Unfazed 15:52
Fur Monger 17:28
Unholy Host 19:33
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Now that dahlia came out, i 100% believe that umbrella was incredibly rushed, from having a lackluster kit, to most of her variants being meh, and also because of her blockbusters being counterintuitive to her playstyle, but with dahlia you can tell each of her variants was well thought out, not to mention her synergy with other characters.
@LlEUCU. BEAUĂ Agreed
Personally, I think the vision they had with 2E and Mobile clashed a bit. In 2E, Umbrella players are expected to move between Hunger States and make use of her different properties in each state. This is simply impossible in Mobile because of the limitation of five move slots, you either build a moveset for OVERSTUFFED or RAVENOUS.
Overstuffed works best with Throws while Ravenous works best with Puddles/Bubbles. But then we get Puddle Pirate which wants to use Puddles but has a second SA that activates when not in Ravenous..? Instead of feeling like a flavorful synergy and playstyle, it ends up being an unnecessary requirement. (Also, when you're not in Ravenous, you're using Throw-based moves like Feeding Time and Tongue Twister, those moves already heal you, so the second SA ends up being redundant).
Imo, Candy Crusher is the only variant with a Hunger State that makes the most sense, it has a clear vision.
Also also, I wouldn't say copy-pasting old variant's SA is a bad thing. It can be good if done right. Lethal Weapon is basically bleeder with AG healing, Trigger Happy is mini-Neuro, Fur Monger is essentially like Djinn. It's just that some of Umbrella's variants feel.. like the worst version of something that already exists, rather than something different.
To be fair, 2E umbrella is kinda in a weird spot. She is an insane monster up close, very hard to block, but has limited tools to get in. It used to be that she can utilize most of her states, but now you'd much prefer being in ravenous at all times, and being stuffed is basically a death sentence. Plus she has a couple of bugs that just sometimes ruins either side's gameplans. We're just waiting for the dahlia patch so umbrella gets fixed lol.
I think the point was that umbrella was always supossed to feel weird
â@@Your_Mom498right what are you talking about, she wasn't rushed
Hair Apparent filia with Martial Outlaw becomes literally the best filia to deal with frost - armor break, bleed from ringlets, heavy bleed (the reason why class cutter is so good) and her already good base atk at almost 10k with elemental bonus ... Maybe you can do the same with Windswept, but it'll be definitely harder.
Oh! That's a good synergy!
So does this mean bad ms frosty is useless now?
@@youtubeknight53 not necessarily, you could use hair apparent in a node, and then bad ms frosty in another node, plus she's still a good option if you still don't have martial outlaw.
@@frog9311 oh ok
@@youtubeknight53 outclassed maybe, not useless
Corrosive Agent Dahlia is nuts. Met an AI one on HoloDeck Hazard a day after the release and that thing went on to stack her Barrier until it filled her entire health bar. I couldn't even whittle it down enough to know how much health she has left. My brain hit Quit and started again. Solid Variant to have on a Defensive curve, I'd say. Provided you know what to do. xD
Exact situation happened to me, it was pretty crazy
Inkling: Im about to end this Betch's Whole career
Cause Inkling rely on Special Moves
â@@klentjhondelimlumbab1594 shit man i didnt know that
For martial outlaw, heavy handed could really use that help for her kit i think. Combining her insane charge attack damage with another reason to go for this niche playstyle is really cool.
Unholy is awesome so far. I've been working with her and can agree she absolutely folds competition. That 1.5 hp drain is CRAZY. She feels like bio squiggly on steroids. Appreciate the video!
Agreed I currently have 14k fs on her and she dominates 80k plus team easily
i can definitely see a niche pairing with number one beowulf + martial outlaw, as he can gain haste from his taunt or hype mode, and additionally gain enrage while benefiting from it. having a fighter who can theoretically have constant haste and enrage Also inflict heavy bleed and armor break is really nice. Iâll definitely be experimenting with this combo once I manage to pull a martial outlaw :)
Lets goo! I had been waiting for this video!
To be honest, I use charge attacks the most on Annie as a more safe ability especially with star power. Maybe it's just with my playstyle though but I'm excited to hear that. Has it's almost like a built-in rotation during stalled moments and continue a combo
I'm impressed how fast this character review came out
ZeoW's like "Sleep is for the weak"
As a F2P I'm so happy I got a Corrosive Agent this early with the few relics opened! I love using her as attacker but I also have the defensive choice if I want. Right now my only issue leveling her is lack of skill points, but aside of that having a blast. She became an instant favorite to me
Yeah It was fun being introduced to her on bd's daily thing
My brain did not connect about her kit, so after my golden was trashed and i rage, my deployment was done and i got lethal weapon in a relic and got through. All that while defending broke after any hit... Yep the Irs of skullgirls is her
Now that i got her i'll farm coins
TYSM,i was waiting for this
Martial also has nice synergy with stage hazard since she inflicts a guaranteed heavy bleed if she activates it by charging
En verdad estuve esperando este video con ansiasÂĄÂĄÂĄ Saludos desde Argentina :D
Hellyeah! A great video to watch while chilling
I am really impressed you posted this so early despite she came very recently!
I faced Granny Dimitrescu on Holodeck master, and holy hell she sweeped my team in seconds
gilfy dimitrescu....
Nice review Zeow, keep up the good work
Yay! Another variant review
Im in love with Lethal Weapon, this is based of V1 from Ultrakill, both mechanic-wise and design-wise and Iâm DOWN FOR IT, I really do hope to get Lethal Weapon anytime soon! ill better get to grinding more
I'm in love with Unfazed. I run her with Rose Tinted Umbrella in the backseat and it's working wonders. If I'm ahead I get almost permanent 5 stacks of miasma. If I'm being punished too hard, the barrier really helps out, and the thorns recover any lost miasma stacks. Really fun stuff
Btw the Wiki is incorrect, Unholy Host's drain is only 2% per second (still a global 2% drain is amazing lol). I know this as I have an Unholy Host of my own :3
Fixed!
Amazing thanks, go team! đ„ł
GAAAAGHHHH ALL OF HER VARIANTS SEEM SO GOOD
uhost is my first diamond and she carries me through literally everything, i love her sm
Corrosive agent is my favourite variant of black dahila, mostly because its based on queen from deltarune. But its kit is also extremely busted.
13:00 works well with umbrella too !
I have Unfazed Black Dahlia at 100%, and tbh, it's pretty easy to get the condition for her passives. She's a dark type so she naturally gets Buckshot which bounces the enemy off the wall. So after reloading once, if you get the enemy in a basic combo, you can get the passive in just 3 shots, and the BB3 is also an attack that launches the enemy off the wall.
Unholy Host and Death Wish coming out next to each other, making a lot of fighter obsolete. Summer Salt, Sketchy suddenly collecting dust if you get Unholy Host or Death Wish
I'm really happy to know I got a cracked black dahlia I got unholy host on a new account and I can say she's really good in general
5:17 Iâm pretty sure Lethal Weaponâs shots have to hit to inflict BLEED. But sheâs pretty great, yeah.
Unfazed I believe is crazy good on offense. I donât think doing wall bounces will be that hard. And you can overlap the THORNS gaining from wall bounces so you always have 5 MIASMA stacks easily.
This is just my theory, since I havenât gotten her yet.
I just know I love having 5 MIASMA stacks, and Unfazed sound like sheâll get that easily.
Unfazed also gets unflinching with thorns so you can play really aggressively. Not to mention that thanks to miasma you don't need to worry about opponent's meter.
i found a bug with black dahlia
if you through one of black dahlia's bullet into the opponet's medici mousetrap (black dahlia) then you will activate the mousetrap
U can pair Martial Outlaw with wetwork and make her damage even higher lmaoo, i think with right use she's a great support
Martial outlaw + Snake bite > Beast king
Fellow Ozen Enthusiast
Martial outlaw and snakebite synergy gonna be crazy, giving him bleed and armour break permanently
Yo ZeoW Martial Outlaw with Beast King is broken btw u should try it
What are good stats for Trigger Happy?
she has an infinite combo paired with Annie
so fur monger with all 15 buffs, lvl 60 and max MA does 36k or 3x her atk per shot.
Now this is good, though it comes with a few hiccups:
-one burst and you need to restart
-she doesnt check if you already have a stack of 5 for a given buff, so getting to 15 takes a while.
-they are buffs and not inbuilt so can be countered by e.g. bleed
-she doesn't have continuous damage, like risky or dreamon (same concept fighters), so her dps is limited with that too.
Now she's probably still a good pf offense once you get rolling and pretty sure her bb3 also counts as 'shots', so she does do some dmg.
However: nowhere near the levels of unholy host good, even for prize fights: with 1 tagout she DRAINS 60% hp(!!!), and no one can do something about that.
Dame Slayer has insane potential in rifts in single and double nodes been testing her she holds well even with her Once Per Match ability.
Yeah I think she definitely has potential in Rifts!!
@@ZeoW17 Forgot to mention Unholy Host breaks sketchy's SA which is kinda ridiculous lmao but yeah been having too much fun with Dahlia :3
martial outlaw with dark horse is going to be SCARY
hi i like your video i hope keep doing more I really like this game.
Black dahlia pretty much just seems like the answer to the top defenders, deadeye neuters most of them as is, and a few of her variants seem to specifically counter some defenders
I agree that Corrosive is probably one of the best Dahlia's next to unholy host.
However, there's a counter to her already in place in the form of Dark Might Beowulf, believe it or not
Martial outlaw + tomb and gloom Will be completely unbeatable, its already basically immortal and now you just layer more damage and armor break on the infinite reset
Personally, Dame slayer is my absolute favorite variant in the entire game. If I tell you it was love at fist sight, it was, because as soon as I got her I put the max of my investment this queen.
I have to say that her lightning shots are actually pretty powerful and deal maybe 15% -20% of max health from your opponent witch I think is pretty much.đ
Marquee Ability:
Also if you unlock her full skill-tree you can lvl her ability to gain regeneration stacks and haste on crit hit from the opponent.
So if you have to fight against an opponent who has a high crit rate she has lots of healing stacks in stock.
On top of that her special shots deal 22% more damage even if the opponent blocked the hit. Witch makes her lightning shot even stronger, and her ult (Last call) that also has a lot of special shots.
I personally think that dahlia doesnât have an incredibly insane amount of comboâs, but I think her overall good kit makes up to it.
I freaking love the moves and character references for BD. Gonna max out Unholy Host as soon as possible. To me this was a really well done character update. đ
While Dame isn't rly the best bang for your buck, I do like the niche she offers. Sure, you could just rock Xeno and cycle to Dark every time.
But I think what HV intended with Dame is to use the 6 lightnings afterwards just to stall your opponent just long enough
excelent video, Black Dahlia's combos when?
thx!
Soon! Hopefully this week :)
It is anyone's guess which variant will be in the Black Dahlia prize fight of 5.3 (perhaps March 2023). Probably not Psycommander because Umbrella had a Fire fighter for her PF.
Yeah will be interesting to see. I guess I'm preparing for Unfazed cuz she looks like the least powerful/useful. Still want her though. Would love if everybody could get Outlaw through PF. I pulled her and she's so fun to use. Really buffs a lot of the existing fighters which has been needed.
Hope it's going to be Outlaw. It's such a fun variant.
I would love outlaw , pair outlaw with eliza and it will be funny
How long did it take for umbrella to release to regular relics? Just curious.
the update after her debut, that's how's had been since Annie until Dahlia
About 100 days between patches
@@BallotBoxer thanks
Espero y me entiendas.
Y si la Black Dahlia Unfized, es totalmente buena, he incluso puedo asegurar que es mucho mejor que Vaporwave, claro en ganar sus buffos, y como para exprimir mas la lleve con una color de rosa, y simplemente ganaba mucha miasma en un corto periodo de tiempo.
Amigo Y Trituradoras De Almas Que Tan Buena Black Dahlia Es Me Acaba De Salir???
Hello zeow I love your videos and I am level 52 in sgm..but, i have a diamond at max level, but her attack is only 18.1k, how do you increase it? I see some people with 24k :0
Fighter score or attack? Attack varies depending on character and variant. The only way to increase Attack is via moves.
Rockstar + Corrosive Agent + Rockstar in prizefights. Start the match with a Ringlet Spike, convert it to perma-bleed, sub in Corrosive Agent for instant 5 stacks of barrier.
I've got a both built so I'm going to have to try that out!
Corrosive agent on holo master. Killer. I canât do any damage, but I havenât gotten to fight her with Eliza yet to kill the barrier. Dahlia is wicked. Ive unholy in Holo master but itâs been 1/3or4. Totally broken.
the way i use dame slayer
.tag to the strongest opponent
.attack and stall with lightning shots(she can shoot all at once that's seven seconds shaved off)
.extend combo
AND BOOOM...DOOM
I just started back and corrosive agent black dahlia was the first of the newer characters I got and she is BUSTED got her to 50 in a day
Bro ,work on golden gunner black dahlia and do a showcase of herâ€â€ plz
Trigger Happy turned out to be a good answer to beating the "win in 10 seconds" challenge in "Who's the boss" bronze only triple node with minimal investment
Oh neat!
I was starting to lose faith in my Diva but then Martial Outlaw cam out
Golden gunner to inkling: "Look at me i'm the projectile spammer now"
Golden gunner is good bc precision is unblockble so if u keep shooting u will be unstoppable bc is it a ranger and it is unblock so yeah.
Is dame slayer good in rift defense when used on a single node?
Probably not
Welp back to the bench she goesđ
Okay so I spent time trying to find the best way for dame slayer and it really is her shock bullets she gets. Yeah the damage is underwhelming but if you go for a heavy hit that launches but cancel before the launch hit and blast another shock itâll let you loop almost. You just have to find when itâs useful to use her pendulum to essentially keep them incapacitated and able to take another shot so you can heavy hit again punch punch heavy it blast until your hearts content lol
Btw with enough practice you can ring about a 30-40 hit combo with this trick lmao
It is absolutely most useful against those really annoying defense that rely on blockbuster. Also this only works if there isnât a burst but thatâs like 95% guaranteed to be there
any tips on getting canopy coins
Play prize fight and event always if you want to farm coins and also sell the useless moves you have
I just got psycommander and Iâm one silver away from evolving my lethal weapon.
0:26 yeah im sure that's the reason
Harlequin will go very well with martial outlaw
I havenât got my hand on a single variant apart from the original one.
I am new to game so i ain't hoping to get dahlia for now
I got neuromancer mean one , surgeon general and jaw breaker between level 32-40
Plus i got gold bad hair day and sheltered
Working on hype man and resonant evil for now
How do yall get extra hits on air hit?
Upgrade her skill tree
@@ZeoW17 the extra air joggle?
Unfazed + Rose-tinted = infinate miasama stacks or so I think (I dont have Unfazed)
You just gave me an idea
(NOT SEXUALIZING)
your funny and you sound very cute, each time I need help, I watch you because you explain things more faster, and more Truly -?(Idk if that made since) thanks for making this channel keep it going â€ïž
Unfazed seems like a much more fun version of vaporwave on offense
I'm just disappointed that Unholy Host is a 3rd Dark instead of a Neutral element.
For starters, it actually makes a lot of sense for her palette as well, but also because of the character it's based on.
Secondly, it'd mean she'd have a perfect number of 2 Dark, Light, Fire, Water, & Wind fighters, so 2 of each element, with 1 Neutral element.
I know im late but yes i agree, it also bothers me when characters have two variants of the same rank (gold, diamond, etc.) Sharing the same element (for example high ruler and princess pride) also we need more water and fire variants we have like a 100 dark and light variants
Dang I now realize Dame Slayer is Doom Slayer
You literally made me regret building dame slayer
infinite combo with annie tho
Unholy host...
Lady Dimitrescu?
I have Unholy and Unfazed. Should I take my Golden Gunner to Gold+ ? She's at silver right now fully maxed. I still need to complete master story so she might come in handy as a silver?