How borrowing from the Warriors unlocked the Miami Heat offense
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The Golden State Warriors and Steph Curry, Klay Thompson, Steve Kerr and Draymond Green were influential in many ways...and the new 2020 Miami Heat offense has its own South Beach Splash Brothers (Tyler Herro and Duncan Robinson). This detailed film room analysis looks at Erik Spoelstra's offense and how Miami uses shooting, movement, and the passing of Bam Adebayo to supercharge their offense.
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Too bad they had to borrow from the 2019 Warriors’ injury bug.
They were getting reamed even before that.
@Matthew B Their chances where no existent from the middle of the first quarter before any injury
Matthew B I wouldnt base it on how Miami played in game one, I would base it off of how well the Lakers played
@Matthew B I honestly don't know how people who think like Andrew end up watching Thinking Basketball videos. I mean, that kind of sweeping overreaction is literally the opposite of what this channel is about.
@@Poopopotamusgaming how many series have we seen blowouts on one side in Game 1 and then quick overreactions from fans and pundits? You can't tell much from a single game, let alone from a single quarter. Boston blew out Toronto in Game 1, for example, and that series went to 7. Were they not playing well? It's called coaching and studying tape. Also, the Lakers' role players have been pretty bad at times and in Game 1 they were hitting everything.
Ah yes, Shootin Robinson
Splash Robinson
He'll make every one of them!
I also have that logo on this: czcams.com/channels/yW_XJmiCyJrb5W4fMd66Lg.html channel of mine. Note: I'm not advertising, I'm just happy to see that logo again!
more like Splashin Bucketsin
Sorry, all I read was SHEEN Robinson
🎶And here’s to you, Shootin Robinson. Jesus loves you more than you will know🎶
Spoelstra learned from the best and implemented it very well into the Heat. I think it's impressive and he needs more recognition.
Don't most experts view him already as a top3 coach? How much more recognition does he need 😅
@@patrickpreis3683 Before this season everybody knew him as the man who coached LeBron. Erik Spoelstra had didn't get any credit until he made it to the NBA Finals with Jimmy Butler as his best player.
iguodala being there definitely helped this year big time, in terms of both the locker room and play schemes with that high IQ, and as a warriors fan, happy for his 6th straight finals
He's overrated
@@elmehdinafia1237 He was barely even an all-star, how could he even be overrated. The man played as a 6th man on the Warriors prior to Kd even though he'd be a solid starter on any other. Excellent defender and solid playmaker. He made many game-changing and winning plays when given the opportunity.
Explain to me how you see him as overrated.
@@KiyanPocket he's just another one dimensional player.. Scrappy defender but trash on offense ..he's a role player
And surely he doesn't deserve that final mvp, curry deserves it! Giving that guy finals mvp was ludicrous
@@elmehdinafia1237 stop using the word "trash". Expand your vocab and your basketball iq.
As a Dubs fan, I am rooting for the Heat in the bubble. I see so much of the old Warriors in the young Heats.
Edit: My bad. I AM still rooting for the Heat and will continue to regularly watch them because of their play style.
Old Warrior in that team, literally.
@Martin Shkreli coz it's over
Same here
They needa look for Duncan off screens more. Like he’s Klay. So many times I see heat players standing around instead of hunting screens for him.
Woops yup, also his release isn’t as quick and efficient like Klay. He’s on another level so Duncan has to improve himself.
They're denying him open looks from hand offs and screens that's the problem rn
They havent learned the art of the moving screen like the warriors have yet. Thats why they cant get him open
Woops lakers are playing good defense yes, but I’m referencing that their off ball players need to look to setting screens for Duncan instead of spotting up themselves (iguodala, crowder, etc,)
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Can't really tell which one is a better deal as I have not bitten on the offer. But I am sure they have good content over there. May be when the special offer gets to free.
"Purposeful movement"
Westbrook in shambles
*Patrick Beverly running around like a maniac for no reason on defense* some how makes nba all defensive first team
I'm a huge lakers fan but I can really appreciate the play style of the heat and warriors! Idk I just love people that can shoot the ball and have great off ball moment. Its really sad that the heat have some injuries to deal with. Idk if they've been listed as having injuries but that first game you could tell they had some ankles roll on a few players otherwise I really do think this would of been the best finals match up in a very long time. Hopefully they can make it happen with what they're dealt and still make it a great game. I'm glad you made this video man much love!!
Im just a fan watching so I never thought about their play design before or looked at it seriously to identify the moving parts. After watching this, I had so much fun watching game 2 because I recognized the split cuts and how often miami went to them in a given possession.Thank you for theses videos. It makes watching and understanding the game possible for someone like me.
This is exactly what I teach our players. Feed the high post. From there, the D is screwed, especially if you have shooters.
Best basketball Insight and analysis to be found on youtube has to be 'Thinking Basketball'. So much more watchable and digestible than anything else.
I love your videos. Definitely the best basketball content on youtube no contest. You know your stuff and there’s no debating it. Keep grinding.
I was not expecting this, it brought tears to my eyess
maan the combination generates more tha the sum of its parts. didn't expect a phenomenology of basketball, nice stuff
Magnificent insight as usual.
Imagine if the Nuggets ran this offense. Jokic instead of Bam. Murray instead of Herro. Porter instead of Robinson. Unguardable
And if they had Will Barton woulda def helped smh
Not even close MPJ has the worst basketball IQ I've ever seen he's allergic to passing. Jokic is to fucking slow to run this. And Murray's release isn't as quick as Tyler Herro or Duncan Robinson.
You were right my friend
Thanks for video, I watched every video at least 3 times, they are way too addicting
Any chance when you can tell us when you'll start posting videos for your historical project?
"His man" at 3:14 is is brother. =)
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I cant believe this channel has under 200k subsl. So underrated!
Waking up to a new thinking basketball video 😍
Amazing analysis
2:09 These Mind Games and multiple options all around are FUCKING AMAZING. It's the reason why Basketball is my favorite sport.
Thanks for this
Great basketball offense! Great Video!
No, Warrior's offense was actually modeled from Miami's offense.
Love this. The real king is Mark Few out in Gonzaga. The NBA finally caught on to what that program does so well and how such a small town school plays with all the big boys. They're offense is always efficient; constant cuts, constant off-ball movement and making the defense square up with multiple efforts if they want to achieve a stop. Few changed the game.
6:06 Thinking Basketball's hilarious attempt at bringing the loveable Dad Jokes of BBallBreakdown to his show.😁🤣😅
How did we not see this. 2 very good shooters at guard, good passing big, even iggy signed with them.
Because people would have complained if we compared this Miami Heat to the young Warriors squad.
I like the Southbeach Splash Bros and Tyler and Duncan are the next heir apparent of shooting backcourt guards
Banger
As usual... fantastic content
Thanks
The Miami Heat are already in the finals and have and an insane amount of cap space and with their injuries in this series it’s going to fuel them and make them want to get back there fully healthy with every more experience Miami is going to be the the nba dynasty of the 2020s.
1:27 So basic and intuitive and yet so impressive
It's interesting to me that Miami is still one of the more capable defensive units despite this level of energy expenditure on offense. We saw pretty frequently with the Warriors how this style of offense that keeps everyone on the move can be detrimental on the other side of the ball. Either way, I love the post passing and focus on cutting to the rim for the easy looks. It's easy for me to see how James Harden could fit into an offense like this filling in as the primary ball handler and perimeter threat, especially given how talented he is in terms of finding the open man when drawing multiple defenders or driving to the basket. The loss of Goran and Herro would have been tough to accommodate, but it's a shame either way that they gave up on making that trade happen
The draymond-bam comparison is on point, but i think bam has a higher ceiling
Yea Bam can be a lot better than Draymond one day
@@JD-ny3vz one day? draymond without his supersquad around him is a triple-single machine. he's was an overhyped Brandon Bass on a great team.
@@homiefromfl lol cmon Draymond was a legit great role player at one point you gotta give him credit for his defensive versatility and play making for like a 3 year stretch. Don't get me wrong I still don't think he'd be shit without Steph, Klay, and Kerr
I've always felt that the 3pt has so many pros and cons. When players just chuck up shots in iso or shot 20 three's a game and only making a handful, it's quite hard to watch. However, the heats off-ball movement and stretching of the floor is very nice to watch.
This is the reason why I feel like Tyrell Terry will be a good pick in the mid first round.
Their roster alone says a lot. Both teams have an elite shooting back-court, an elite defender on the wing, and a big man that can dribble with great vision and passing ability. The only difference would be is that the Heat are really way younger team, but are already so good.
Ik this is kinda late but do u think u can do a video of how the lakers beat the nuggets? & I would love to see your in dept points and what LA did differently guarding Jamal differently and ect then the Clippers. Esp since we haven’t really gotten a Lakers Bubble video. Pleaseeeee
As a celtics fan, this video justified our lost. But I know they could've beaten this heat given they maintained their leads in the first two games.
Celtics are still very young and only getting better.
That series was hard to explain to me it felt like the 06 Heat to me they keep it close and then they’re closer(s) just bury you like how Dwade did back in the day
Honestly other than their adebayo matchup and kemba ofc they are the ideal defence against such a offense. I think kemba might make it quite hard for them even if he performa better on offense than these playoffs...
@@samnotloading6101 yeah heat kept on attacking kemba in defense, he's a liability in that end
Celtics were the better team through the majority of the series. Just couldn't execute in the 4th for some reason.
Everyone in the video running around off ball to gain an advantage.
Westbrook: what sport is this?
Y’all swear like he the only player that don’t move neither harden, lebron, wall, Beal 🙄
Man. Looking at this now, Duncan and Herro really drop the ball this current season. Granted they're coming off a Finals run and a two month turnaround, but damm.
They just have a great coaching staff and back office to find these players that goes well together. Its unfortunate that they get hit by injuries in the finals.
I've always thought that more teams should try to emulate the warriors off ball movement
people say post ups are dead but their offense runs through the post
2:06 Impressive dime, it must take some guts to pass in such crowded space but i'll guess he was also taking into conderation who was on the court, if it was Marcus Smart, Caruso, GP2 or Jokic it would be more dangerous. But even around them overload of information can cause mental lapses.
I liked this video a lot, you got a sub from me homie
The right comparison is GSW.
2 great shooters running around, 3 guys who can attack, shoot and pass the ball.
5 guys who know how to play the system and pass the ball.
That's GSW offence.
This video has a good breakdown on how Lakers defense just shut down the heat through out the game - czcams.com/video/TCtbByB-TeY/video.html
Darius Vessell; is he the type of constant moving shooter youre referring too here Ben..?
Devin sorry…..wheres my head at…!!
Id say this team is a pre Kd warriors squad with an actual lob threat at the center.
Shootin Robinson........yea I like it.
The Miami Heat's offense is basketball heaven
2:59 How many steps was that? Four? If you're going to praise the "nasty juke" maybe you ought to notice how the separation was actually achieved.
Well whaddya know, Spoelstra's one of the co-author of positionless Basketball 🏀
Last time i finished myself at the rim, questions were asked
I wish the Hawks would employ this pace and space offense. This is beautiful basketball at it’s best.
2:59 travelling
Ball movement of Heat is beautiful
I miss the warriors their offense is joy
The Lakers model has put a nail in the GSW and this Miami model. Constant cutting with elite shooters are great, if the threat of easy layups are in abundance. But, with 3 elite 7' defenders choking the lane and 2 elite passers, with perimeter D and 3 and D average players, these offenses see their efficiency drop substantially.
The 2017 Warriors would sweep this Lakers team!
2021 Finals will be GSW vs Miami Heat
God I hope the Blazers start to use this offense w/Nurk as the big man in the post.
3:24 That lack of defense and specially Paint protection tho
As a Laker fan im sad Dragic and Bam isnt gonna play tonight
Duncan Robinson traveled at 3:00.
With zero step, mans took three steps
Sure as hell wasn't "the present" the day this video went up...
It’s been seven years and we’re still learning from the “Summertime Spurs.”
It was a masterclass.
Go Golden State Warriors.
next how the lakers old skool basketball is bringing them the title in a perimeter oritented era
Been saying this all year they move like warriors did
Who needs to be credited for the smooth and probably best offense of Golden State Warriors
"Shoot'em Robinson not Duncan Robinson" 🤣
This must’ve been tough to go through posting after game 1
Woah, I'm super early here
"south beach splash brothers" ☠️☠️☠️
West team that want to advance to playoff next season, will be looking for bigs this off season. Lakers has proven 3 things this season, size do matter, teams can win without focused on 3s, and defense win chip.
The Lakers won because they had two top 5 players if the rest of their team was worth anything they would have swept the Heat. Lakers fans would trade all their role players for Tyler Herro and Duncan Robinson.
FORTY is a big numb--OH, HEYOOO! Caught me off guard...
Igoudala stole the Warriors playbook and brought it to the Heat
Bam is like Bill Russell
Shooter Robinson
4:10 sus
The Harden antidote
The only problem with this is, warriors(2014-2016) had shooters who can defend. Harrison barnes, klay thompson, draymond green(wasn’t this bad back then. He was shooting around 36 percent then), barbosa and of course the gravity of steph curry. And the best part is they actually had rim protectors in bogut and festus ezeli to make this work on defense. Its going to be impossible to replicate that against good defenses in the playoffs for other teams because Tyler herro and duncan Robinson cant defend. Now you saw lebron hunt for steph curry mismatch in the playoffs. But that can be covered for if hes the only player. Imagine there’s 2 of them on the floor. That is impossible to cover on the defensive end.
Without shooters who can defend. This system is never gonna work in the playoffs. Imagine if matisse thybulle can shoot 44 percent. People will be hunting for him lmao
good point.
6:34 Why did he jumped if he upfaked behind the basket...? Smh
Houston take notes
It's just about over, Miami Heat lost Game 2 of the NBA Finals last night. 😭😭😭
Their two 3-point specialists must practice more on the defensive side of the ball. Miami tries to hide those 2 on the backline, whereas the traditional way is for the guards to be up top where the other 3 teammates can protect them.
7:15 Gosh, how i hate this term.
"This year's Heat team were influenced by GSW, ya know.
"But GSW thenselves are based on the old Spurs template, since Kerr used to be an Assistant Coach there."
*"So... it's all Greg Popovich?"*
"🏆👩🚀🔫🧑🚀"
Kerr wasn't the assistant coach he was the announcer in the finals during the 13-14 season and he implemented their system when he became the rookie coach. He still played under popovich as a player.
@Suzal Gautam but for team USA in the USA team after he won 3 rings he wasn't the assistant coach to pop before that
Very disappointing that no one scored 40 😶
😁😁😁
This offense strategy is only good for bad defense team, with no organized defense mindset, which are basically every teams now, except lakers. The importance of defense needs to be brought back.
Forty percent is a lot.
Already here
FIRST baby!!
They need to shoot more 3s, they got shooters but LA shot 20 more 3pointers than Heat did but heat shot 41% from 3 as a team while LA only shot 33% as a team from 3.....if Miami matched their attempts from 3 theyd have 24 extra points(40% of 20 more 3pt attempts) that's 24 points so they coulda won by 14 instead of losing by 10
They didn't do this in game 1 and with all the injures, the Finals will be swift.