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  • čas přidán 14. 05. 2023
  • Barry Ward (Fine Gael) and Ronan Mullan (Independent NUI Senator) join Kieran Cuddihy on The Hard Shoulder to debate Ireland's new proposed hate speech legislation.
    #debate #hatespeech #ireland

Komentáře • 76

  • @Danielbinu
    @Danielbinu Před rokem +167

    The main aim of this legislation is not to protect victimised people from from hatred. This is to protect our elite politicians from common people.

  • @freespeechisneverwrong9351

    There is no such thing as hate speech, just speech you hate.

  • @jimmymaher6778
    @jimmymaher6778 Před rokem +78

    How can people support a law stating you are guilty before proven innocent

  • @tauras3108
    @tauras3108 Před rokem +69

    Over 70% said no to this yet there just ignored. This group that’s been in power for over 12 years needs to go as there so detached from the very citizens that put them there to represent them in the first place and not to mention giving the Green Party a platform they would otherwise never have had who consistently push ideological agenda agendas against the will of the people. Elections are needed ASAP.

  • @lisamathews2510
    @lisamathews2510 Před rokem +71

    Sounds like CENSORSHIP

  • @farlo90
    @farlo90 Před rokem +60

    What a kip Ireland is becoming.

  • @khiggins8733
    @khiggins8733 Před rokem +73

    This legislation is highly dangerous and must be stopped.
    Good on you Ronan.

  • @keithbrady9671
    @keithbrady9671 Před rokem +61

    Hatred is a feeling a emotion it's in every one of us weather we want it or not. It's instinct. The government is intruducing this to prevent people from aiming their freedom of speech towards them

  • @declancarroll1799
    @declancarroll1799 Před rokem +32

    Free speech is just that - free speech. This proposed Bill is wrong.

  • @nateryan7041
    @nateryan7041 Před rokem +37

    He'd be more in his line to write a law that deports criminals for committing actual crimes like knife crime or drug dealing !!

  • @patrickboyle6727
    @patrickboyle6727 Před rokem +23

    The government isnt right wing its entirely left wing,as is most of the opposition.

  • @liamo6889
    @liamo6889 Před rokem +28

    This is the start of the communism in Ireland. Look at definition of hatred how vague it is. Gardai will be more interested in using this like public order has been used for anything

  • @olmecking1
    @olmecking1 Před rokem +30

    Is that not Totalitarianism?

  • @kingkakarot3000
    @kingkakarot3000 Před rokem +23

    snowflake ireland...seems like a good time to leave and never turn back. thought police in full effect

  • @ignatiusTH2
    @ignatiusTH2 Před rokem +27

    Hate speech laws limit independent thought. If your views are valid you should be able to defend them.

  • @petergallagher9981
    @petergallagher9981 Před rokem +21

    Free Speech imagine those you disagree with get in power and define hate

  • @havenbastion
    @havenbastion Před rokem +28

    People have a right to hate and a right to express that hate and that hate can easily be more rational than any attempt to suppress it.

  • @dinglepeninsula
    @dinglepeninsula Před rokem +22

    This is a disgrace, the country in taters and these two discussing calling people names! We are officially lost!

  • @johndurr8299
    @johndurr8299 Před rokem +20

    We need to get fffg out before we become another Canada.

  • @TookieMacSpookie
    @TookieMacSpookie Před rokem +50

    Disgusting and disturbing what being done to this country. And newstalk talk supporting their masters all the way.

  • @donalryan8600
    @donalryan8600 Před 5 měsíci +6

    Never thought I would agree with Ronan Mullen but I do in this case, it’s a slippery slope to the state controlling our speech

  • @fifimac2007
    @fifimac2007 Před 5 měsíci +6

    This government hasn’t got a clue

  • @Success4u247
    @Success4u247 Před rokem +33

    It’s meant to open up our country to any one who feels oppressed and is looking for a free home and entitled to a job , and we ( the Irish) can’t object. I love the way the politicians say it’s will make our democracy stronger, while at the same time they give themselves more power to shut down opposition. Roll on 2025

  • @jimmymaher6778
    @jimmymaher6778 Před rokem +15

    Barry is so brainwashed

  • @jumblestiltskin1365
    @jumblestiltskin1365 Před rokem +12

    The one thing his lovely definition of hatred within that text doesnt protect is the vast majority of Irish people. Protection for everyone else.
    You only have to look across the Irish sea to see how well the things happening so fast and so "enthusiastically" in Ireland are going to turn out.

  • @ladylilly1234
    @ladylilly1234 Před rokem +23

    Well done Ronan. You've won this one

  • @kingeatking
    @kingeatking Před rokem +12

    I wonder why they have a comment section at this stage?

  • @lynne-du9ql
    @lynne-du9ql Před 5 měsíci +3

    Hold another referendum on this bill...it would be NO WAY NOT NOW NOT EVER.

  • @lynne-du9ql
    @lynne-du9ql Před 5 měsíci +3

    Ronan please encourage senators to refuse this Bill...

  • @Touhou-forever
    @Touhou-forever Před rokem +16

    I'm not the biggest fan of hate speech in general but this bill could be open to abuse and this can be dangerous so I hope that the President will refuse to sign this bill and this bill to the Irish Supreme Court.

  • @darkhorse6428
    @darkhorse6428 Před rokem +7

    Freedom of speech

  • @gnoelalexmay
    @gnoelalexmay Před 5 měsíci +3

    The *CENSORSHIP* bill.👎👎👎

  • @ste45
    @ste45 Před rokem +6

    I identify my hatred as loving criticism!

  • @theeggtimertictic1136
    @theeggtimertictic1136 Před rokem +15

    'Hatred' means hatred ... well I'm glad that was clarified 😂

  • @ProxyPacIT
    @ProxyPacIT Před rokem +7

    More regulation to consider when attempting to make comments on anything in the future without implicating yourself in law

  • @DeanFeeneyMusic
    @DeanFeeneyMusic Před rokem +7

    no comments, everyone afraid to say anything in case the offend.

  • @christiankeogh4166
    @christiankeogh4166 Před rokem +6

    Good man Ronan

  • @orsonwellies9980
    @orsonwellies9980 Před rokem +5

    defamation, slander and threats do not fall under free speech, has any of these politicians read the bill?

  • @robert.donnelly
    @robert.donnelly Před rokem +4

    Ronan Mullen was entirely in favour of blasphemy being a law in Ireland. 🤔

  • @Heretic-007
    @Heretic-007 Před rokem +4

    Hate Speech isn't the Speech they hate

  • @johndurr8299
    @johndurr8299 Před rokem +7

    Illegal opinions:D

  • @jwskye1969
    @jwskye1969 Před rokem +18

    Oh the gardai will decide,that really fills you with confidence

  • @jdgaabjj
    @jdgaabjj Před rokem +9

    I agree with Ronan

  • @Steve30x
    @Steve30x Před rokem +7

    If this is passed then the Dail is in trouble with the amount of hate speech that comes from all TDs in the Dail all the time😂
    They fire hate speech at each other all the time. Especially sinn from , fine Gael and Gianna fail.

  • @lynne-du9ql
    @lynne-du9ql Před 5 měsíci +1

    You can say whatever you want if it is based on facts and truth.

  • @graff3840
    @graff3840 Před 4 měsíci

    Don't you need a referendum in Ireland to change the law or constituents?

  • @padraicwaters3694
    @padraicwaters3694 Před 8 dny

    Its all our own fault.

  • @GavinWhitehouse
    @GavinWhitehouse Před rokem +3

    Some good old fashioned debating there.

  • @222damien
    @222damien Před rokem +2

    so it will be another file to the DPP. more files for gardai, there needs to be a 24 DDP office availability. this is done in england, this way with a simple phone call gardai can get directions to charge and what to charge with. this will massively cut down on paper work.

  • @duggy5725
    @duggy5725 Před 6 měsíci +1

    There's such thing as reporting online u don't need to throw ppl in jail 4 saying stuff all it does is puts a strangle on free speech feck all of this helps the public

  • @thecarpetman7687
    @thecarpetman7687 Před rokem +4

    Mullen….a man but in the Seanad by priests…accusing people of being right wing…do me a favour

  • @subcitizen2012
    @subcitizen2012 Před rokem

    While I have my reservations about the extent and means and manner this al gets enforced in the hypothetical and practical, there's still nothing more I'd want more to hear about the rabid right wing around the world (I realize this is only in Ireland) receiving a "chill effect" to motivate them off of their counter cultural rampage. They know when they shouldn't be saying things and in the manner they shouldn't be saying things. Putting the state's weight behind that social and erstwhile pedal problem is probably a better idea than not.