Was prescribed hydrocodone after a knee injury. Took me 10yrs to get off them. Was up to 30 a day just to feel “normal.” 1yr clean and I’ll never go back. Life is way better this way.
Legit gotta say hearing Shane Telling this before a few years ago in a podcast or CZcams, was something I needed when I was kicking the Opiate habit. Definitely helped me get through it. Thanks Shane.
Yo Shane thanks for this ,I'm 2 years clean from a 30 year addiction to pain pills fetty,all that junk and it all started from hurting my back ,I can remember the doctor telling me I had chronic pain and would be on pain pills rest of .y life it felt like I won the lottery, how fucking sic was my mind,seeing the disappointment in all my loved ones everything I've been through......thanks for this message buddy!!!
Seeing the face on your family is one of the most gut-wrenching things that’s still vivid to me about addiction. Man, I’m glad that shit is behind me. Good on you for kicking it.
Same here 4 years clean over a 30 year addiction. When I was in rehab , I couldn't help but notice I was the only old dude there. One day I asked the counselor about that , and he remarked that drug addicts usually has short lives. I was blessed. Do not ever turn your back on an addict. NOBODY wants to be an addict.
Yes your right I spend my time trying to help anyone that's will to want to make a change,running the streets doing dope running around to bring your dope man your money isn't a way to live wake up he has 20 of you and give a fuck about no one ont even himself!!!
I was injured in a police defense tactics training. Doctor wrote me prescriptions for Vicodin & Soma. Took it as prescribed. Felt incredible. Went back to the doctor for a follow up. She was going to write a refill for both. Despite still being in pain with cracked ribs & a displaced disc in my back, I told her not to write the refill because I liked it & that scared me. Looking back, it was the best decision I ever made. That second refill likely would have turned into a third, then a fourth, etc. So thankful I said no that day.
Yep. Benzos for me. I still don’t feel right to this day. I cold turkey withdrew from Klonopin and Ambien at the same time. It was absolutely BRUTAL. The withdrawal process lasted probably 2 years. Wouldn’t wish it on my worst enemy. Props to Shane and everyone else who kicked that bullshit.
Its a fking nightmare. Ill go hard for two weeks feeling like superman, if I had a cape I could fly. Then run out and suffer for 2 weeks not being able to do anything and find my way to the liquor store which doesn't help. I feel like death till I get more, can't work, can't eat, etc. I've been up all night right now, hadn't been to bed took like my 12th pill and only have 7 left for another couple weeks. Do the math I tell myself I'll just have to take a half a pill per day to stop from getting sick however this process has been repeating itself for over 2 years. Level 6, code red, nightmare on elm street horror show complete and total nightmare.
@@josheisert8380 get on the Suboxone man. Been in your shoes before for many years. Don't regret getting off and on the Suboxone. Took 4 years but completely sober from any opiate including subs for almost 2 years. Gotta break that cycle Josh, it legit is the definition of insanity. Hope you get through it man.
Get f8ck'n heroin or if you're only pills-oriented maybe try and crush them, do little lines and try and taper off like that as much as possible. Oxys can also be smoked off aluminum foil, that's another way to consume, but not an entire f8ck'n pill at once. Try and get used to these 2 other methods, your brain will rewire itself sooner than later. And afterwards it's easier to kick the habit off a little easier, there's psychological withdrawals, but just try and consume as little as possible and try and occupy your time with different tasks as much as possible. 6yrs in myself, started with smoking Oxys, been on $m@Ck for around 4 and a half. Just DON'T touch Fentanyl. Best of luck to you, bud.
I’m sorry guys. This shit is tough. Crazy we can all relate on this level and we don’t even know eachother. My world revolved around how much I had left.
@@HiGlowie you become a slave to the pills especially when you like them a lot. After the big opiate crack down they cut way back on prescribing them and they become harder and harder to get on the street. So yeah it's a constant battle of counting how many left and trying to feather them out. I got 3 per day. Then it's a recount after taking to many for a few days. Ok I got 2 per day I can make that work. Then it's well shit time to cut them all in half that will get me back to 3 a day, then 1, then panic sets in when you realize you are down to half a pill per day for 2 weeks. So then you lie to yourself and say screw it a half a pill per day isn't going to do nothing but cause me misery I might as well have a couple days of freedom I'll just take the rest, get a bunch of stuff done and quit. Then reality sets in when you are completely out counting the days down to the hour of when you get them next. I call it the witching hour. I can't wait till I get off these things. But to be honest only because I can't get enough to satisfy me to last and not run out. I guess that's for the best though.
I've never done these drugs.my drug of choice was alcohol. Anyone who can beat a addiction I have the utmost respect for.its not easy it's a every day battle for me over time it's gotten easier.when I first stopped and not because I wanted to I didn't think I'd make 1 hour.now it's over 16 years sober .I thank God for another chance at life.
As you mentioned James I've also heard this before on Youshoot, but it's still absolutely great to hear Shane tell it again on your podcast. A really honest and insightful account of drug addiction and recovery.
Seen over a hundred of your CZcams posts and this one is by far the best by a long shot Troy Martin is an amazing person, his Franchise character wasn't my favorite Cup of Tea The honest nature and zero hesitation on telling us was truly remarkable to see and hear
I avoid pain pills because I know I'd get hooked really fast on em with my brief (prescribed) experiences. Perfect description. Thanks Shane and thanks James. Take caution with that stuff!
I never knew that story. It’s a shame that so many people got addicted and some died because they pharmaceutical companies lied about the addictiveness of oxy and the doctors gave them out like candy and the pharmaceutical paid a fine and no one there did jail time.
It gets even crazier then a fine.....purdue pharma had the patent for 10 years and the entire time said it was non addictive then when the patent was up they claimed it was so addictive that no othwr company should be allowed to produce it. They now are the only company to make the problem but they also created and sell the solution to the problem and no government legislation said that was wrong.
It's not faceless pharma companies, it's the Sackler family who engineered the whole thing. Bought off medical journals to say they weren't addictive and better than existing opioids, then produced a pill that was incredibly easy to break down and shoot up. It's the Sackler family who's 100% responsible.
I wanna believe Shane because Ive been there and know how addiction spins out of control.....but 61 80s a day seems not possible first to obtain that many thru doctors or even to buy off the street would cost 100s of thousand a month. I knew extremely big dealers selling 100k pills a month with habits that couldn't support 61 pills aday but they definitely did 20+ aday. I think this is an example of a typical over the top wrestler story. One 80 was equivalent to about 16 percocet so times that by 61......he for sure would have liver damage.
Yeah, not even close to possible. Even that many a week would be insane. You're right not only would he be dead 10 times over, but he could never get anywhere close to that much.
Was he really misused? I’m sorry but In over 20 years of wrestling I can’t really name one memorable match in wwe, wcw, or ecw? Not hating but I’ve never seen one. And even if someone can name 1 or 2, that’s one or two in 20 plus years. I’ll simply say over rated.
When I broke my legs plus all the later surgeries and painful road to walk again I was on just about every pain med - fentanyl, dilaudid , tramodol, morphine, oxy - and I never developed an addiction. Glad Shane got over it .
I've went cold Turkey so many times and relapsed weeks sometimes months after and it Is the hardest experience I've ever had. Especially from being a popular person and I was in the army so was always fit too. But doesn't matter who you are. You wont beat a opiate addiction easily. Well done Shane Douglas. You've done amazing 🏴💯💪
Shane proud of you and anybody here on the comment the struggle is real...I was an opioid addict from injuries suffered over the yrs I'm still suffering but have been clean 11yrs today..gonna try for tommarrow apr. 11th will be 12yrs thumbs up to anybody still in revovery
I had a serious opioid addiction when I was younger. Fortunately I was able to get through it, but I've always said it's one of those things you can't possibly understand unless you've experienced it.
I had cancer and took that crap for pain. The VA changed my doctor. My new pain management doctor said it was a shit drug and refused to fill it. They cut me off cold Turkey. I was mad, but had no idea my body craved that crap. Shane described it to a tee. I had horrible withdrawal symptoms. I complained and got a new doctor. Unfortunately I’m still on them. I’ve never taken more than prescribed. It never took my whole pain away, but it takes the edge off for sure. Thanks for sharing.
No one should ever have to go cold turkey on drugs these strong, glad you got another doctor as that was incredibly irresponsible of the one who cut you off. I've been in chronic high level pain for the best part of a decade due to an injury that multiple surgeries and procedures have failed to correct and over that time I've gradually moved up through the various opiates and am now on a high and strong dosage. Like you I only ever take them as prescribed and never for a high as I've never got that feeling from them. All I get is that they take my pain down from a 8 or 9 out of 10 pain level down to a 5 or 6 for a few hours so I can get some much needed respite from the pain and even some sleep. I also had an issue with someone who wasn't my regular doctor cutting my dosage without my consent but luckily my normal doctor got things resolved fairly quickly. I think the problem is that many doctors have never experienced constant high level pain and assume everyone on opiates is just looking to get high due to how many people misuse them.
@@Geordie1892 The VA Administration decided to cut every veterans prescribed amount of opioids. I had one doctor tell me opioids were only for cancer patients. I asked him if Lymphoma wasn’t considered cancer anymore, and thanked him for reading my medical file. I go outside through Tricare now for pain management. Much more considerate and compassionate. Our veterans are suffering because a few abused the system and overdosed. Now it’s punishing the very ones that need pain pills.
@@Geordie1892 The VA Administration decided to cut every veterans prescribed amount of opioids. I had one doctor tell me opioids were only for cancer patients. I asked him if Lymphoma wasn’t considered cancer anymore, and thanked him for reading my medical file. I go outside through Tricare now for pain management. Much more considerate and compassionate. Our veterans are suffering because a few abused the system and overdosed. Now it’s punishing the very ones that need pain pills.
I was in a accident at 19 where i was thrown from a pickup truck bed at 50. i was proscribed pain meds for maybe 2 months, and i didnt stop talking them till i was 43. opiate addiction was is one the hardest fecking thing to beat. so to anyone who has won the fight so far day after day congradulations!!! shane i understand 100% what your saying and what ya felt. congrates dude and keep it up
With addiction, hearing people in recovery telling their stories is so important for others, and also it helps the person themselves remember how bad things were. Massive respect to Shane for being so forthcoming with sharing his ordeal.
Almost 3 years sober from 440mg a day of PERSCRIBED oxycontin for my chronic back pain. I still have chronic pain but I REFUSE TO EVER USE A PAINKILLER AGAIN! I went cold turkey after a 8 year addiction that started with a horrible back injury in high school!
I cant actually finish this one. I'm getting that itch.. ... 5 years clean and I still miss it...... but my life is unrecognizable from where I was 10 years ago... but I still remember that warm feeling......
After a major bike wreck in 97, it was now spring of 22. 25yrs of percocet! My Dr retired & I couldn't find another Dr to write my Rx. I went from 240 a month to Zero!! Cold turkey gave me a heart attack. High amounts of garlic, a little aspirin & some weed, doin a lot better now. Addiction is real!
I snapped my humerus a decade ago...had a plate and six screws put in to hold it together. Surgery caused nerve damage into my hand...so I had what felt like lightning bolts running down my arm into my hand as my body tried to heal itself. Was put on Oxycodone...it felt sooooo good. I knew that recovery was going to be a long haul and that I stood a chance of becoming addicted. So I flushed tham and lived with the pain
I'm so thankful I've never got hooked on opiates. I was lucky in one respect; I would get deathly sick and insanely itchy from opiates. So I would just drink tons of alcohol instead. Not a much better alternative, but seeing stories like this, I feel like I got off lightly. God Bless those struggling with an opiate addiction. We're praying for you.
Always thought Shane was a great talent in wrestling. When WWE came up with Dean Douglas I was like they just blew his talent he should of been a top guy.
love hearing shane's stories about oxy. only because he is able to paint the picture so well. i was prescribed oxy, took 2, and it was miserable. i can't imagine the difficulty of trying to quite them after that dosage (how many per day) and that amount of time...insane
I was into fentanyl so I had a really high tolerance too, I was listening to this like "ok, fairly standard dope sick pill head stuff" then he got to his daily dose I said "HOLY SHIT" 17x 80mg oxies 3x a day? I would be afraid to take 10 at once, and no way would I be taking more within the same day.
When I was 16 a friend of mine found a bottle of 120 80s with just a few gone so between the 3 of us we divvyed up the rest. For a week I was trashed. The first day 1 was enough. Day 7 I think I did 8. I can see how he could get up to 17. Those were so pure they would just eff you up without making you the usual sick. It really is a good thing they don't make the old school OCs anymore...probably...
For me oxycontin was the bane of my existence. They did zippo for my pain. They gave me headaches and constipation. I remember telling the Neurosurgeon who prescribed them and he ignored me. A long story short my primary care physician put me on Darvocet which helped greatly.
The only way to quit pill addiction is wanting to quit. You cant do it for your family, friends, significant other, etc. YOU have to want to quit or it will never happen. Easier said than done but its the 100% truth. Unfortunately, a lot of people just dont want to quit, they say they do but they really dont.
For all those people who think wrestling is “fake,” they might want to talk to a wrestler. The bumps are real. Obviously, you’re trying to take them as safely as possible, but you’re hitting the mat, turnbuckle, guardrail or steel steps. There’s no faking that. You can take the bump in a way that does a lot less damage but looks devastating, but it’s still going to hurt. Even if it all goes according to plan with no botches, you’re going to feel it. Even Hulk Hogan, who rarely sold anything in his life, had hip surgery. Stone Cold also had hip problems from delivering the Stunner. Even if you do all the moves correctly and no one technically gets “injured,” you can’t do matches that much before you need some form of pain management. And if you have something ignored or misdiagnosed, it can end careers and lives. Bret Hart had lingering effects from his concussion against Goldberg and he wasn’t allowed to see a doctor right away. He had to drive a getaway car and do a hardcore match after that. At least now we know how bad CTE and TBI are.
Alcohol withdrawal is more dangerous, and can cause death easier. The misery of opiate withdrawal is a lot more extreme. Kind of feeling where you want to die but cant.
Was given Hydromorpone for first time ever in ER recently, and I can see how some can get hooked on the stronger opiates. I went from near level 10 pain to ZERO in 20 minutes. It didn't give me a semi high like lower level oxycodone did, but Morphine made me feel numb and drunk-like w/o the euphoria. All the stories made me so nervous about opiates that I thankfully limited my oxies to emergencies only if stuff like Iburophen didn't work at all.
glad to hear this story and the positive outcome for Shane. what are the doctors doing giving these drugs out and hurting people so badly. they are supposed to be helping people, not making addicts
I'd like to hear more about the addiction bcs how did he go from 1 pill and then putting that pill back in bottle and bcs he was fine... well how did he go from 1 or 2 to 17 3 times a day, I mean, ud throw up just thinking of taking that many pills in a weeks time, especially a third a day
Yeah, right. He said he took it once and then was about to take 1 pill because his brain knew that would make him go, and then he was like oh man I know what this is, let's check into the hotel so I can throw up for a week and sit in my own poop. I was like, uhhhhh, that's not how it goes. I guess he skipped the hourlong story of how he went from 1 pill a day to 60 because this limey isn't paying him by the hour.
Hi Everyone, I can't overstate the abject misery that opiate withdrawal will give you. You are a testament to the rewards of patience and hard work because the post-opiate withdrawal syndrome is real. It is not recognized by most physicians. Very Sad. I can attest that physician training does not iinclude this on the curriculum.
An addiction is also used as a tool by prosecutors to get you to cooperate. From my own experience, I had to go cold turkey in Maximum Security for not cooperating while those who agreed went into a Low Security level and got some medicating help besides having their ball reduced. Preparing to fight for your life while being as sick as I've ever been in my life, showed me what justice has become. Turning down money and freedom got me a pair of 10 year sentences but I got to become who I always wanted to be, not crushed by the power of the system.
Oxy withdraws just like most other opioid last 5-7 days. Only one that last a month is methadone because it's a fully synthetic opioid and your body absorbs it differently (hence why it's used for long term pain relief like oxycontin or opana but doesn't have the time release Lauer make up). Everyone is different but I'm surprised that percs didn't work for Shane but OC did. I have 12 herniated disks and messed up knees. For me methadone is the only medicine that worked after a few years when my tolerance went up. At first I could take a vicodin or perc and be good for 5-6 hours. Eventually they didn't work as well or as long. Methadone works and doesn't give that buzz you feel from other pills.
I was eating that much as well in 2009/2010 it was so out of control. I can’t Believe that I was able to keep that up financially. And I can’t believe you didn’t kill me. I was doing the whole Fort Lauderdale pain clinic deal . Unbelievable times lol they literally made thousands of addicts
I've been off oxycodone for 7 years thank God. I got addicted to it when I was 20 from injuries sustained in the military... Just glad I'm off that garbage....
Pain medicine is needed if you ever had a serious injury you know it’s impossible without them the problem isn’t the pills it’s when people don’t follow the directions and start taking extra so you can get the buzz better if your taking them for a buzz you shouldn’t be on them at all it’s not what there for.if you get hooked it’s on you for not being strong enough to control your actions
It is straight shooting interviews like this that help keep me clean! You want pills 💊 for pain? I 'll be asked.... Nope! Better advice than the the Dr., was from my ex wife a Nurse, "take I know the Bottle says take 2 Ibuprofen Tabs, take 3, we do it at the hospital all the time."
This is like my story with pain management as well . they gave me MS contin and percocets .The ms contin was enough to deal with my pain but I liked that the percocets got me high .I decided I wanted to stop after watching the show The Corner .
As a major dope head let me tell you this man was taking what we call a "Heroic" dose! Even I couldn't do more than 5-6 80's in a day. The only explanation is that his has a lot of legitimate pain and his body was burning through it instead of getting a big buzz. I've seen cancer patients use 400 mild of hydromorphone in just a day and a half.
Can anyone with experience offer some help/advice? I know "you have to want to" and I'm there myself, however my problem isn't the "yuckies" or anything that keeps me using, it's the complete exhaustion I experience in the morning where Im weighed down and can't get out of bed/out of sleep I can handle the restlessness and the physical symptoms, but this is what gets me using bc as soon as I consume I can pop out of bed within 5 minutes. Coffee and shit like that don't do it....help??
Sorry for people who get addicted but if taken like prescribed it can be a miracle saver for some like me. It helps me get up and go to work everyday and get stuff done.
I do not mean to be a jerk, but it's never that simple, at the end of the day, you will still become physically addicted if taken for any prolonged period even when taken as prescribed. I took a lower dose than prescribed for around 6 months for an injury, and stopping was hell. If I knew what I was in for coming off, I gladly would have just dealt with the straight pain. The mental pain/fog/damage I found most troubling, as it lasted way longer than even the physical withdrawals. For some perhaps it's 100% necessary to function indefinitely, but even then god forbid you ever fall into a situation where you cannot get your meds it won't be pretty. I know it might sound far-fetched, but with the economy/supply chain issues, you never know if a shortage could occur. I wish you the best.
Just made it to the part where he said how many he took, what the fuck?!?! I’ve been prescribed them for over a year now and don’t take more than 5 20s a day. How in gods name would he have even gotten ahold of 5180 mill a day? I don’t believe he took that many, there’s no way. That’s 4,081 mg a day. People od after taking 80 milligrams of not acclimated to it. I just really don’t believe the amount he’s saying. The most I’ve heard of anyone taking a day is 400 mg
You're running under the assumption that doctors have your best interests in mind and not the deals various drug reps offer them. By and large, they don't care. Want masses of pills? Most any large hospital just wants you gone and out the door
Bingo. Doctors handed this shit like candy 15 years ago. They killed hundreds of thousands. Then the gov cracked down and they give them to no one including those who need them including surgical and cancer patients. Whatever is expedient and self serving for them.
How could he take 17 80mg at a time? I don't buy it. Also how would you get that much prescribed to you? My friend was getting 360 a month and that's through a shady doctor and pharmacy. He said he was getting a 60 pill script daily. That's 1800 a month and there's noobe who would fill that much. And buying them on the side would cost a fortune.
@@billj4525 it is a lot. That's why his doctor and pharmacist got arrested and sent to jail for a long time. This was in the late 2000's when regular doctors and pharmacies weren't as strict as they are now. And shady doctors could write just about anyone a huge script like it's nothing.
I'm confused how the pills in his bag would melt or solidify "because of the moisture in his bag". Did he just leave them loose in there? And where did all that moisture come from?
I'll never forget the 1st time I took an 80 mg oxycontin, it was 2002 my sophomore year in HS when NOBODY EVEN KNEW WTF an oxycontin was which BTW is a Whole other ballgame than oxyCODONE contrary to what others who've never taken an old school real oxycontin in their life, I got a bad concussion in a foot ball game during my 2002 sophomore year and I didn't know my name, I was puking & had a horrendous migraine so my Mom rushed me to the ER cus to this day I've watched the video of that football game 100+ Times & I have no clue when the concussion occurred which makes me think it was an accumulation of many helmet to helmet hits, anywsy my Mom rushed me to the ER & when we walked in the bright light was killing me increasing the insane amount of pain my migraine was already causing me,my Mom had been in pain management since 1994 & she was 1st prescribed the 80 mg Oxycontins in 1997 & she was able to take 8/day & she was also prescribed 8 mg Dilaudids, 350 mg Somas, 2 mg Xanax bars, & 40 mg Oxymorphone which was even more potent than the 80 mg oxycontins & she ALWAYS kept a good 3-4 doses of each medication in this big pill pouch thing she used to have in her purse at all times so when she Heard me damn near screaming in pain (I couldn't scream like I wanted to cuz that would have made the migraine worse, so she gave me a whole 80 mg oxycontin from her purse & she told me it's nasty but if I chewed it then I'd be pain free in about 15 min & she also gave me half of an 8 mg Dilaudid which I also chewed up & 10 min later I felt euphoria that I didn't know existed, after that I got called back for a scan of my brain and they found my brain was bleeding so they read my charts where I marked my migraine's pain a 20 on a 1-10 scale with 10 being too much to handle so they immediately put a morphine dripper that went right into my vein & I have no idea how I didn't overdose and die since I'd never taken an opiate in my life before but I was instantly hooked
it's part of why we're in an opiate epidemic.) also, we invaded afghanistan to guard the poppy fields [heroin] to make more opiates. (they were burning them)
Was prescribed hydrocodone after a knee injury. Took me 10yrs to get off them. Was up to 30 a day just to feel “normal.” 1yr clean and I’ll never go back. Life is way better this way.
Good job kicking that habit. Not everyone can.
Love it brother!!! Keep it going!!! I just celebrated 15 years myself and life has never been better!!!
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Legit gotta say hearing Shane Telling this before a few years ago in a podcast or CZcams, was something I needed when I was kicking the Opiate habit. Definitely helped me get through it. Thanks Shane.
Good to hear another clean person! Keep living life!
@@ren17x50 I appreciate that. Honestly couldn't ever fathom going back to that life!
How long it take to get over detox
Waw I will not will like to someone give me the Rong pill .me that I'm trying to kick the regular ones. What's the name oxycontan?
I’m also super proud of Shane for beating it. Good for him.
Yo Shane thanks for this ,I'm 2 years clean from a 30 year addiction to pain pills fetty,all that junk and it all started from hurting my back ,I can remember the doctor telling me I had chronic pain and would be on pain pills rest of .y life it felt like I won the lottery, how fucking sic was my mind,seeing the disappointment in all my loved ones everything I've been through......thanks for this message buddy!!!
Seeing the face on your family is one of the most gut-wrenching things that’s still vivid to me about addiction. Man, I’m glad that shit is behind me. Good on you for kicking it.
Same here 4 years clean over a 30 year addiction. When I was in rehab , I couldn't help but notice I was the only old dude there. One day I asked the counselor about that , and he remarked that drug addicts usually has short lives. I was blessed. Do not ever turn your back on an addict. NOBODY wants to be an addict.
Yes your right I spend my time trying to help anyone that's will to want to make a change,running the streets doing dope running around to bring your dope man your money isn't a way to live wake up he has 20 of you and give a fuck about no one ont even himself!!!
@@scottmitchell3591 Congratulations, sir!
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I was injured in a police defense tactics training. Doctor wrote me prescriptions for Vicodin & Soma. Took it as prescribed. Felt incredible. Went back to the doctor for a follow up. She was going to write a refill for both. Despite still being in pain with cracked ribs & a displaced disc in my back, I told her not to write the refill because I liked it & that scared me. Looking back, it was the best decision I ever made. That second refill likely would have turned into a third, then a fourth, etc. So thankful I said no that day.
I've been abusing pain pills for 10 years I'm currently trying to stop. This is so helpful
I’ve been at this for 2.5 years. Hang in there brother
Day by day
Everything he’s saying is absolutely true . Pills are horrible to get off . The feeling is horrible when your detoxing. But it does get better
Yep. Benzos for me. I still don’t feel right to this day. I cold turkey withdrew from Klonopin and Ambien at the same time. It was absolutely BRUTAL. The withdrawal process lasted probably 2 years. Wouldn’t wish it on my worst enemy. Props to Shane and everyone else who kicked that bullshit.
Thank you for telling the truth about addiction it is worse than words can explain
I am currently hooked on opiates myself and it's hell, I praise those that are clean
Its a fking nightmare. Ill go hard for two weeks feeling like superman, if I had a cape I could fly. Then run out and suffer for 2 weeks not being able to do anything and find my way to the liquor store which doesn't help. I feel like death till I get more, can't work, can't eat, etc. I've been up all night right now, hadn't been to bed took like my 12th pill and only have 7 left for another couple weeks. Do the math I tell myself I'll just have to take a half a pill per day to stop from getting sick however this process has been repeating itself for over 2 years. Level 6, code red, nightmare on elm street horror show complete and total nightmare.
@@josheisert8380 get on the Suboxone man. Been in your shoes before for many years. Don't regret getting off and on the Suboxone. Took 4 years but completely sober from any opiate including subs for almost 2 years. Gotta break that cycle Josh, it legit is the definition of insanity. Hope you get through it man.
Get f8ck'n heroin or if you're only pills-oriented maybe try and crush them, do little lines and try and taper off like that as much as possible. Oxys can also be smoked off aluminum foil, that's another way to consume, but not an entire f8ck'n pill at once. Try and get used to these 2 other methods, your brain will rewire itself sooner than later. And afterwards it's easier to kick the habit off a little easier, there's psychological withdrawals, but just try and consume as little as possible and try and occupy your time with different tasks as much as possible. 6yrs in myself, started with smoking Oxys, been on $m@Ck for around 4 and a half. Just DON'T touch Fentanyl. Best of luck to you, bud.
I’m sorry guys. This shit is tough. Crazy we can all relate on this level and we don’t even know eachother. My world revolved around how much I had left.
@@HiGlowie you become a slave to the pills especially when you like them a lot. After the big opiate crack down they cut way back on prescribing them and they become harder and harder to get on the street. So yeah it's a constant battle of counting how many left and trying to feather them out. I got 3 per day. Then it's a recount after taking to many for a few days. Ok I got 2 per day I can make that work. Then it's well shit time to cut them all in half that will get me back to 3 a day, then 1, then panic sets in when you realize you are down to half a pill per day for 2 weeks. So then you lie to yourself and say screw it a half a pill per day isn't going to do nothing but cause me misery I might as well have a couple days of freedom I'll just take the rest, get a bunch of stuff done and quit. Then reality sets in when you are completely out counting the days down to the hour of when you get them next. I call it the witching hour. I can't wait till I get off these things. But to be honest only because I can't get enough to satisfy me to last and not run out. I guess that's for the best though.
Shane spoke about his addiction at length on his YouShoot, and I respected him tenfold after hearing it. I have the utmost respect for this man.
I've never done these drugs.my drug of choice was alcohol. Anyone who can beat a addiction I have the utmost respect for.its not easy it's a every day battle for me over time it's gotten easier.when I first stopped and not because I wanted to I didn't think I'd make 1 hour.now it's over 16 years sober .I thank God for another chance at life.
As you mentioned James I've also heard this before on Youshoot, but it's still absolutely great to hear Shane tell it again on your podcast. A really honest and insightful account of drug addiction and recovery.
Seen over a hundred of your CZcams posts and this one is by far the best by a long shot
Troy Martin is an amazing person, his Franchise character wasn't my favorite Cup of Tea
The honest nature and zero hesitation on telling us was truly remarkable to see and hear
Shane seems like an open book here. Brutally honest.
I avoid pain pills because I know I'd get hooked really fast on em with my brief (prescribed) experiences. Perfect description. Thanks Shane and thanks James. Take caution with that stuff!
I never knew that story. It’s a shame that so many people got addicted and some died because they pharmaceutical companies lied about the addictiveness of oxy and the doctors gave them out like candy and the pharmaceutical paid a fine and no one there did jail time.
Unfortunately, the addicts who the pharma companies gave these pills out to ended up doing jail time or worse. Such a fucked up system.
It gets even crazier then a fine.....purdue pharma had the patent for 10 years and the entire time said it was non addictive then when the patent was up they claimed it was so addictive that no othwr company should be allowed to produce it. They now are the only company to make the problem but they also created and sell the solution to the problem and no government legislation said that was wrong.
It's not faceless pharma companies, it's the Sackler family who engineered the whole thing. Bought off medical journals to say they weren't addictive and better than existing opioids, then produced a pill that was incredibly easy to break down and shoot up.
It's the Sackler family who's 100% responsible.
Glad Shane is ok. Wish him the best in his sobriety.
I wanna believe Shane because Ive been there and know how addiction spins out of control.....but 61 80s a day seems not possible first to obtain that many thru doctors or even to buy off the street would cost 100s of thousand a month. I knew extremely big dealers selling 100k pills a month with habits that couldn't support 61 pills aday but they definitely did 20+ aday. I think this is an example of a typical over the top wrestler story. One 80 was equivalent to about 16 percocet so times that by 61......he for sure would have liver damage.
Yeah, not even close to possible. Even that many a week would be insane. You're right not only would he be dead 10 times over, but he could never get anywhere close to that much.
Shane Douglas is a class act. He was under utilized during his career. The Kliq is partly responsible for that misuse of his talent.
Was he really misused? I’m sorry but In over 20 years of wrestling I can’t really name one memorable match in wwe, wcw, or ecw? Not hating but I’ve never seen one. And even if someone can name 1 or 2, that’s one or two in 20 plus years. I’ll simply say over rated.
Shane Douglas was very over in ecw but never any where else
Shane had plenty of opportunities to get over, he just couldn't do it. Except in ECW where he could say fuck to 1000 smart marks
@@pocketspore 💯
@@jaredgarrison333That's the Booker fault. He could work
When I broke my legs plus all the later surgeries and painful road to walk again I was on just about every pain med - fentanyl, dilaudid , tramodol, morphine, oxy - and I never developed an addiction. Glad Shane got over it .
I've went cold Turkey so many times and relapsed weeks sometimes months after and it Is the hardest experience I've ever had. Especially from being a popular person and I was in the army so was always fit too. But doesn't matter who you are. You wont beat a opiate addiction easily.
Well done Shane Douglas. You've done amazing 🏴💯💪
Shane proud of you and anybody here on the comment the struggle is real...I was an opioid addict from injuries suffered over the yrs I'm still suffering but have been clean 11yrs today..gonna try for tommarrow apr. 11th will be 12yrs thumbs up to anybody still in revovery
That's the same way Burt Reynolds kicked pain pills. Locked himself in a hotel room.
50x80mg?? Holy shit. The WDs from that would have been unimaginable hell
I have so much respect for Shane. Another great video.
I had a serious opioid addiction when I was younger. Fortunately I was able to get through it, but I've always said it's one of those things you can't possibly understand unless you've experienced it.
love these interviews, keep up the good work!
I had cancer and took that crap for pain. The VA changed my doctor. My new pain management doctor said it was a shit drug and refused to fill it. They cut me off cold Turkey. I was mad, but had no idea my body craved that crap. Shane described it to a tee. I had horrible withdrawal symptoms. I complained and got a new doctor. Unfortunately I’m still on them. I’ve never taken more than prescribed. It never took my whole pain away, but it takes the edge off for sure. Thanks for sharing.
No one should ever have to go cold turkey on drugs these strong, glad you got another doctor as that was incredibly irresponsible of the one who cut you off. I've been in chronic high level pain for the best part of a decade due to an injury that multiple surgeries and procedures have failed to correct and over that time I've gradually moved up through the various opiates and am now on a high and strong dosage. Like you I only ever take them as prescribed and never for a high as I've never got that feeling from them. All I get is that they take my pain down from a 8 or 9 out of 10 pain level down to a 5 or 6 for a few hours so I can get some much needed respite from the pain and even some sleep. I also had an issue with someone who wasn't my regular doctor cutting my dosage without my consent but luckily my normal doctor got things resolved fairly quickly. I think the problem is that many doctors have never experienced constant high level pain and assume everyone on opiates is just looking to get high due to how many people misuse them.
@@Geordie1892 The VA Administration decided to cut every veterans prescribed amount of opioids. I had one doctor tell me opioids were only for cancer patients. I asked him if Lymphoma wasn’t considered cancer anymore, and thanked him for reading my medical file. I go outside through Tricare now for pain management. Much more considerate and compassionate. Our veterans are suffering because a few abused the system and overdosed. Now it’s punishing the very ones that need pain pills.
@@Geordie1892 The VA Administration decided to cut every veterans prescribed amount of opioids. I had one doctor tell me opioids were only for cancer patients. I asked him if Lymphoma wasn’t considered cancer anymore, and thanked him for reading my medical file. I go outside through Tricare now for pain management. Much more considerate and compassionate. Our veterans are suffering because a few abused the system and overdosed. Now it’s punishing the very ones that need pain pills.
Shane has nothing but class
The most honest and down to earth guy in wrestling history. Love Shane
Great to hear someone who made it and is doing well
Shane is such a straight shooter. Have to respect the guy.
Damn, this is a powerful interview…. Shane should really consider public speaking to teens on this topic.
A miracle drug they said... I've also struggled with opioid addiction it's a nightmare to say the least, I'm glad we can both say we beat it.
Been on 10 years straight and 10 years on Suboxone great job man
I was in a accident at 19 where i was thrown from a pickup truck bed at 50. i was proscribed pain meds for maybe 2 months, and i didnt stop talking them till i was 43. opiate addiction was is one the hardest fecking thing to beat. so to anyone who has won the fight so far day after day congradulations!!! shane i understand 100% what your saying and what ya felt. congrates dude and keep it up
“I don’t have a higher power im agnostic”…2 min later “Amen” 😭🤦🏻♂️
Shane is just a pure class act. I dare you to find a more honest person whether it's in or out of wrestling. Thank you Shane for being a real person
With addiction, hearing people in recovery telling their stories is so important for others, and also it helps the person themselves remember how bad things were.
Massive respect to Shane for being so forthcoming with sharing his ordeal.
Almost 3 years sober from 440mg a day of PERSCRIBED oxycontin for my chronic back pain. I still have chronic pain but I REFUSE TO EVER USE A PAINKILLER AGAIN!
I went cold turkey after a 8 year addiction that started with a horrible back injury in high school!
Twenty years clean here and 100% God free !
Good for you sir and congratulations on your life of recovery and personal success.
Just when I thought it wasn’t possible for me to respect Shane Douglas any further… here we are
Incredible
LOVE THE FRANCHISE!!!! HE WAS THE HEART AND SOUL OF ECW IN THE 90S!!!!!!! GREAT TO SEE HIM KICKING THIS PAIN PILL ADDICTION!!!!🙏🙏🙏✊️💯😎😎😎
Oh yea I can relate to opiate addiction.
Worst thing I’ve ever felt was going through them withdrawals
It feels like the flu × 5 depending on level of addiction
So happy Shane is still with us, and doing this show. I love his perspective on the business'
51 is crazy!!! He needed to take half a pill less a week each week. Two year withdrawal.
I cant actually finish this one. I'm getting that itch.. ... 5 years clean and I still miss it...... but my life is unrecognizable from where I was 10 years ago... but I still remember that warm feeling......
OxyContin detox was horrible. Sick in my house four four days”
After a major bike wreck in 97, it was now spring of 22. 25yrs of percocet!
My Dr retired & I couldn't find another Dr to write my Rx. I went from 240 a month to Zero!! Cold turkey gave me a heart attack. High amounts of garlic, a little aspirin & some weed, doin a lot better now. Addiction is real!
I snapped my humerus a decade ago...had a plate and six screws put in to hold it together. Surgery caused nerve damage into my hand...so I had what felt like lightning bolts running down my arm into my hand as my body tried to heal itself. Was put on Oxycodone...it felt sooooo good. I knew that recovery was going to be a long haul and that I stood a chance of becoming addicted. So I flushed tham and lived with the pain
Stay away from those pain pills - use the herbs out there if anything. God Bless you all and stay safe.
I'm so thankful I've never got hooked on opiates. I was lucky in one respect; I would get deathly sick and insanely itchy from opiates. So I would just drink tons of alcohol instead. Not a much better alternative, but seeing stories like this, I feel like I got off lightly. God Bless those struggling with an opiate addiction. We're praying for you.
Always thought Shane was a great talent in wrestling. When WWE came up with Dean Douglas I was like they just blew his talent he should of been a top guy.
love hearing shane's stories about oxy. only because he is able to paint the picture so well. i was prescribed oxy, took 2, and it was miserable. i can't imagine the difficulty of trying to quite them after that dosage (how many per day) and that amount of time...insane
I was into fentanyl so I had a really high tolerance too, I was listening to this like "ok, fairly standard dope sick pill head stuff" then he got to his daily dose I said "HOLY SHIT" 17x 80mg oxies 3x a day? I would be afraid to take 10 at once, and no way would I be taking more within the same day.
When I was 16 a friend of mine found a bottle of 120 80s with just a few gone so between the 3 of us we divvyed up the rest. For a week I was trashed. The first day 1 was enough. Day 7 I think I did 8. I can see how he could get up to 17. Those were so pure they would just eff you up without making you the usual sick. It really is a good thing they don't make the old school OCs anymore...probably...
For me oxycontin was the bane of my existence. They did zippo for my pain. They gave me headaches and constipation. I remember telling the Neurosurgeon who prescribed them and he ignored me. A long story short my primary care physician put me on Darvocet which helped greatly.
The only way to quit pill addiction is wanting to quit. You cant do it for your family, friends, significant other, etc. YOU have to want to quit or it will never happen. Easier said than done but its the 100% truth. Unfortunately, a lot of people just dont want to quit, they say they do but they really dont.
For all those people who think wrestling is “fake,” they might want to talk to a wrestler. The bumps are real. Obviously, you’re trying to take them as safely as possible, but you’re hitting the mat, turnbuckle, guardrail or steel steps. There’s no faking that. You can take the bump in a way that does a lot less damage but looks devastating, but it’s still going to hurt. Even if it all goes according to plan with no botches, you’re going to feel it. Even Hulk Hogan, who rarely sold anything in his life, had hip surgery. Stone Cold also had hip problems from delivering the Stunner. Even if you do all the moves correctly and no one technically gets “injured,” you can’t do matches that much before you need some form of pain management. And if you have something ignored or misdiagnosed, it can end careers and lives. Bret Hart had lingering effects from his concussion against Goldberg and he wasn’t allowed to see a doctor right away. He had to drive a getaway car and do a hardcore match after that. At least now we know how bad CTE and TBI are.
As an alcoholic i always hear alcohol withdrawal is the worst but AH UH pill withdrawal is much worse imo
Alcohol withdrawal is more dangerous, and can cause death easier. The misery of opiate withdrawal is a lot more extreme. Kind of feeling where you want to die but cant.
Was given Hydromorpone for first time ever in ER recently, and I can see how some can get hooked on the stronger opiates. I went from near level 10 pain to ZERO in 20 minutes. It didn't give me a semi high like lower level oxycodone did, but Morphine made me feel numb and drunk-like w/o the euphoria. All the stories made me so nervous about opiates that I thankfully limited my oxies to emergencies only if stuff like Iburophen didn't work at all.
I had surgery I was on fentynal, then OxyContin, dikUdud, Percocet and finally lotitab weened off every three days and had no issues thank God
God Bless Ya Shane !
glad to hear this story and the positive outcome for Shane. what are the doctors doing giving these drugs out and hurting people so badly. they are supposed to be helping people, not making addicts
Dope sickness is the worst thing in the world. Im going thru it right now
Great story. Thanks Shane...
I'd like to hear more about the addiction bcs how did he go from 1 pill and then putting that pill back in bottle and bcs he was fine... well how did he go from 1 or 2 to 17 3 times a day, I mean, ud throw up just thinking of taking that many pills in a weeks time, especially a third a day
Yeah, right. He said he took it once and then was about to take 1 pill because his brain knew that would make him go, and then he was like oh man I know what this is, let's check into the hotel so I can throw up for a week and sit in my own poop. I was like, uhhhhh, that's not how it goes. I guess he skipped the hourlong story of how he went from 1 pill a day to 60 because this limey isn't paying him by the hour.
Was never a fan of Shane Douglas the wrestler but the actual person is pretty bad ass
The part about painting at like 1:00 am...I can really relate...anyone who has tried an oxy can relate
Hi Everyone, I can't overstate the abject misery that opiate withdrawal will give you. You are a testament to the rewards of patience and hard work because the post-opiate withdrawal syndrome is real. It is not recognized by most physicians. Very Sad. I can attest that physician training does not iinclude this on the curriculum.
Shane has certainly never heard the phrase “why use 10 words when 5 will do” lol
An addiction is also used as a tool by prosecutors to get you to cooperate. From my own experience, I had to go cold turkey in Maximum Security for not cooperating while those who agreed went into a Low Security level and got some medicating help besides having their ball reduced. Preparing to fight for your life while being as sick as I've ever been in my life, showed me what justice has become. Turning down money and freedom got me a pair of 10 year sentences but I got to become who I always wanted to be, not crushed by the power of the system.
Oxy withdraws just like most other opioid last 5-7 days. Only one that last a month is methadone because it's a fully synthetic opioid and your body absorbs it differently (hence why it's used for long term pain relief like oxycontin or opana but doesn't have the time release Lauer make up). Everyone is different but I'm surprised that percs didn't work for Shane but OC did. I have 12 herniated disks and messed up knees. For me methadone is the only medicine that worked after a few years when my tolerance went up. At first I could take a vicodin or perc and be good for 5-6 hours. Eventually they didn't work as well or as long. Methadone works and doesn't give that buzz you feel from other pills.
Yeah the pain from withdrawal last a week. But your brain is fucked up for a long time and you go into a deep depression
No one can Kick drugs like you
Shane O Doug.
keep on going buddy.
I was eating that much as well in 2009/2010 it was so out of control. I can’t Believe that I was able to keep that up financially. And I can’t believe you didn’t kill me. I was doing the whole Fort Lauderdale pain clinic deal . Unbelievable times lol they literally made thousands of addicts
I've been off oxycodone for 7 years thank God. I got addicted to it when I was 20 from injuries sustained in the military... Just glad I'm off that garbage....
Pain medicine is needed if you ever had a serious injury you know it’s impossible without them the problem isn’t the pills it’s when people don’t follow the directions and start taking extra so you can get the buzz better if your taking them for a buzz you shouldn’t be on them at all it’s not what there for.if you get hooked it’s on you for not being strong enough to control your actions
Shane is one intelligent man.
It is straight shooting interviews like this that help keep me clean!
You want pills 💊 for pain? I 'll be asked.... Nope!
Better advice than the the Dr., was from my ex wife a Nurse, "take I know the Bottle says take 2 Ibuprofen Tabs, take 3, we do it at the hospital all the time."
Look at what happened to louis spiccoli how he died from over use of somos.
Did he say 60 80’s a day?
That must have cost a fortune.
He said it, but I don't believe it.
So where can I buy some Oxycontin? Craigslist?
Dude, pharmacist here.
Please tell me you’re joking.
That stuff is NOT to be fucked with.
This is like my story with pain management as well . they gave me MS contin and percocets .The ms contin was enough to deal with my pain but I liked that the percocets got me high .I decided I wanted to stop after watching the show The Corner .
As a major dope head let me tell you this man was taking what we call a "Heroic" dose! Even I couldn't do more than 5-6 80's in a day. The only explanation is that his has a lot of legitimate pain and his body was burning through it instead of getting a big buzz. I've seen cancer patients use 400 mild of hydromorphone in just a day and a half.
51 80mg oxys a day that dude is a beast
He's definitely exaggerating, either that or the pills were more like 8 mgs vs 80, and he didn't know what he was getting.
Pain pills don't kill pain they just make u were u don't give a shit kinda like alcohol
Can anyone with experience offer some help/advice?
I know "you have to want to" and I'm there myself, however my problem isn't the "yuckies" or anything that keeps me using, it's the complete exhaustion I experience in the morning where Im weighed down and can't get out of bed/out of sleep I can handle the restlessness and the physical symptoms, but this is what gets me using bc as soon as I consume I can pop out of bed within 5 minutes. Coffee and shit like that don't do it....help??
Sorry for people who get addicted but if taken like prescribed it can be a miracle saver for some like me. It helps me get up and go to work everyday and get stuff done.
ME TOO
I do not mean to be a jerk, but it's never that simple, at the end of the day, you will still become physically addicted if taken for any prolonged period even when taken as prescribed. I took a lower dose than prescribed for around 6 months for an injury, and stopping was hell. If I knew what I was in for coming off, I gladly would have just dealt with the straight pain. The mental pain/fog/damage I found most troubling, as it lasted way longer than even the physical withdrawals. For some perhaps it's 100% necessary to function indefinitely, but even then god forbid you ever fall into a situation where you cannot get your meds it won't be pretty. I know it might sound far-fetched, but with the economy/supply chain issues, you never know if a shortage could occur. I wish you the best.
@@user-wo5nx7sg4b DEPENDENCE is different than addiction is man, do some research...
I'm 8 years clean, I hate to see anyone hooked on that shit.
Coming off that shits one of the most miserable things in the world. Seems to take forever to get to feeling right
I don’t understand the addiction to them. I’ve been on them since 05. No addiction and no detox problems.
Just made it to the part where he said how many he took, what the fuck?!?! I’ve been prescribed them for over a year now and don’t take more than 5 20s a day. How in gods name would he have even gotten ahold of 5180 mill a day? I don’t believe he took that many, there’s no way. That’s 4,081 mg a day. People od after taking 80 milligrams of not acclimated to it. I just really don’t believe the amount he’s saying. The most I’ve heard of anyone taking a day is 400 mg
How would it be possible to even get that many pills each day? They're a controlled substance?
You're running under the assumption that doctors have your best interests in mind and not the deals various drug reps offer them. By and large, they don't care. Want masses of pills? Most any large hospital just wants you gone and out the door
Bingo. Doctors handed this shit like candy 15 years ago. They killed hundreds of thousands. Then the gov cracked down and they give them to no one including those who need them including surgical and cancer patients. Whatever is expedient and self serving for them.
I can understand Shane as an agnostic. He has a hard time believing there could actually be someone smarter than him.
I chortled!
well yeah, hes a republican
How could he take 17 80mg at a time? I don't buy it. Also how would you get that much prescribed to you? My friend was getting 360 a month and that's through a shady doctor and pharmacy. He said he was getting a 60 pill script daily. That's 1800 a month and there's noobe who would fill that much. And buying them on the side would cost a fortune.
Somethings not right with his story. Even your friend with the 360 80s a month sounds unbelievable. That's so much.
@@billj4525 it is a lot. That's why his doctor and pharmacist got arrested and sent to jail for a long time. This was in the late 2000's when regular doctors and pharmacies weren't as strict as they are now. And shady doctors could write just about anyone a huge script like it's nothing.
I'm confused how the pills in his bag would melt or solidify "because of the moisture in his bag". Did he just leave them loose in there? And where did all that moisture come from?
Sweaty wrestler gear
I'll never forget the 1st time I took an 80 mg oxycontin, it was 2002 my sophomore year in HS when NOBODY EVEN KNEW WTF an oxycontin was which BTW is a Whole other ballgame than oxyCODONE contrary to what others who've never taken an old school real oxycontin in their life, I got a bad concussion in a foot ball game during my 2002 sophomore year and I didn't know my name, I was puking & had a horrendous migraine so my Mom rushed me to the ER cus to this day I've watched the video of that football game 100+ Times & I have no clue when the concussion occurred which makes me think it was an accumulation of many helmet to helmet hits, anywsy my Mom rushed me to the ER & when we walked in the bright light was killing me increasing the insane amount of pain my migraine was already causing me,my Mom had been in pain management since 1994 & she was 1st prescribed the 80 mg Oxycontins in 1997 & she was able to take 8/day & she was also prescribed 8 mg Dilaudids, 350 mg Somas, 2 mg Xanax bars, & 40 mg Oxymorphone which was even more potent than the 80 mg oxycontins & she ALWAYS kept a good 3-4 doses of each medication in this big pill pouch thing she used to have in her purse at all times so when she Heard me damn near screaming in pain (I couldn't scream like I wanted to cuz that would have made the migraine worse, so she gave me a whole 80 mg oxycontin from her purse & she told me it's nasty but if I chewed it then I'd be pain free in about 15 min & she also gave me half of an 8 mg Dilaudid which I also chewed up & 10 min later I felt euphoria that I didn't know existed, after that I got called back for a scan of my brain and they found my brain was bleeding so they read my charts where I marked my migraine's pain a 20 on a 1-10 scale with 10 being too much to handle so they immediately put a morphine dripper that went right into my vein & I have no idea how I didn't overdose and die since I'd never taken an opiate in my life before but I was instantly hooked
51 80mg Oxycotin? Damn
it's part of why we're in an opiate epidemic.) also, we invaded afghanistan to guard the poppy fields [heroin] to make more opiates.
(they were burning them)
james never believe an addict. especially not this one or sabu remember how he said dixie started tna