Penn Jillette on Donald Trump, Hillary Clinton, And Why He's All in on Gary Johnson
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- "How do you think I'm going to die?" asks Penn Jillette, "the larger and louder half" of Penn & Teller, at the start of 'Presto!: How I Made Over 100 Pounds Disappear and Other Magical Tales', a book that is every bit as mesmerizing and captivating as the duo's live show.
In fact, Presto! reveals the greatest disappearing act of Penn's 40-plus-year career. Not "The Vanishing African Spotted Pygmy Elephant Act," in which make the duo make a cow dressed like an elephant go poof. This is the trick by which the 61-year-old, who once topped the scales at over 300 pounds, lost one-third of his body weight in a five-month span.
Penn details his diet regimen as laid out by Ray Cronise, a former NASA scientist and entrepreneur who pushes an extremely restricted plant-based diet (essentially, veganism but with little-to-no added salt, sugar, oil, and fat). Like Penn's old "fat fuck" body (his term), Presto! contains multitudes-it's less a diet memoir than a wide-ranging meditation on contemporary American culture and politics, including the 2016 election.
It's also Penn at his very best. Even as he is discussing the life-threatening health conditions that led him to his new eating plan, he's never a page or two away from commenting on how Hillary Clinton is the absolute worst nominee for president...except for Donald Trump, with whom Penn appeared for two seasons on Celebrity Apprentice. "Eating pizza is voting for Hillary," Penn writes (he means that as an insult), while Donald Trump's hair resembles "cotton candy made from piss" (the billionaire's personality is even more off-putting, says Penn). Presto! is filled with anecdotes not just about weight loss but about the loss of loved ones, hosannas to the friends and artists who have inspired Penn over the years, and a tender-yet-barbed condemnation of what he calls "the Standard American Diet," or SAD.
Reason's Nick Gillespie recently sat down with Penn Jillette backstage at Vegas' Rio casino, where Penn & Teller have been in residence for years. The conversation ranged from the 2016 election to what it's like to eat only potatoes for two weeks straight to why Bob Dylan-"he's a freak, not a cheerleader"-is Penn's artistic hero.
About 45 minutes.
Produced by Meredith Bragg. Cameras by Jim Epstein, Austin Bragg, and Justin Monticello.
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So much respect and love for penn and reason during this strange and interesting time
agreed. I love Penn Jillette.
+Gabe King absolutely. all libertarians are leftists. you didn't know that?
anyone that isnt on the trump train is a leftist! Im fucking retarded!!
Penn Gillette is a traitorous freak. 🖕🏼
i'm a lifetime registered republican who can think for himself. you? not so much. thanks for letting the world know.
I dont agree with everything he says but i enjoy the conversation.
I just love hearing Penn talk. He's got such a nice voice and he's very present and witty. Dude sounds like he knows what he's talking about. Even if I disagree with him on a few issues, I've got nothing but respect for the man.
nice to see someone who can respect someone they disagree with. too many people think " he dissagrees with me he is literally the child of satan and hitler "
I love it when people say they disagree, but can't provide a sensible counter argument to justify their disagreement. Quite fucking hilarious really.
Good for you; you might also be able to distinguish between 'well played/acted/directed/shot' and 'what I like'.
Not relevant:he wasn't trying to prove Jillette wrong, he was making a statement about the difference between agreement and enjoyment or appreciation, so the substance of his disagreement was irrelevant.
+Winston Noble If you want to dissect that episode and prove him wrong with facts, be my guest. But until someone has more proof than "omg bush did 9/11 it was an inside job jet fuel doesn't melt steal beams", I'm going to go by what Penn said.
A libertarian voting Hillary. Now I've seen it all.
@@davidhansen5373 Yes he is, or did you not notice how dumb he is?
@@js0988 He voted for Hillary Clinton and Joe Biden. Anyone who does that ain't no libertarian, bro.
@@js0988 By the way, he said on his Twitter recently, "I used to be a libertarian," implying he no longer is. Do more research next time.
@@js0988 Sorry, it was in an op-ed he wrote for CNN. He said, "I used to identify as Libertarian," but that he voted for Joe Biden.
Penn's television show "Bullshit" helped me to become Libertarian when I was in high school.
Same, my first real taste of libertarian thinking
Interesting. A rare good show on TV. I was raised without it, but I download their show, and it is interesting and provocative.
It didn't turn me into a libertarian, I'm still pretty centrist in my thinking. But regardless, I loved the show and most of the time I agreed with it. Even when I didn't, I love the way Penn presents his views.
Made me a more solid Skeptic
As for me, too, my friend.
This is the type of interview that I find very interesting. That is, when the interviewer encourages the interviewee to talk and explain his position. Penn Jillette is obviously very intelligent and knowledgeable.
Love listening to Penn. He's thought out everything so deeply, and still has a great sense of humor. Speaks right to my soul.
I guess a crystal ball isn't part of Jillette's stage props. He was _dead_ wrong on Gary Johnson elevating the Libertarian Party.
Johnson took a prime opportunity to increase the viability of the brand... and drove it into the center of the Earth.
Legalization can be a nice, complimentary issue, (provided you care - most do not) but the Libertarian Party USA is going precisely _nowhere_ until they realize 'Smoke Weed Erryday' is not a platform.
The Rageaholic it worked for Snoop Doog and Dr Dre lol 😂
Who would you have voted for if you had your pick?
The guy is a skeptic and an atheist !! why the fuck would he use a crystal ball?
The Rageaholic not a huge Bill Maher fan, but he was right when he said Gary Johnson is an idiot.
Penn Jillette is a magician dude. It's an ironic phrase.
Johnson is no Ron Paul
#FeelThePaul doesn't quite inspire the same way #FeelTheJohnson does
lol
Johnson is arguably not even Libertarian at all! He supports TPP and he picked a non libertarian as his running mate.
No, he is better. Doesn't support the Trump clown as Paul does now.
I like that Johnson is a little different from your typical libertarian though, while still seeming to be an honest, straight up guy. I'm not a libertarian but if he can get in the debates and have a real chance at winning, I'd think about voting for him.
He, IMO, is the perfect example of how everyone should approach politics and support.
He has no concrete bipartisan ideologies at all...he can call those he disagrees with as still intelligent good people with some good ideas but due to his stance he does not agree with them on "some" of their political choices.
He is respectful and intelligent and he nailed the bit about how Trump and how, while so many love him for his lack of filter, you CANNOT have someone in office running millions of people within a country without a filter and being the better person who bites their tongue and takes the higher ground.
We see how, when Penn chose not to support Trump, he sent out a Tweet trashing him (and he was respectful on the reply, higher ground...well done).
He clearly shows he has no control and acts out like a hurt child but the issue is, he cannot take it back once said and he will say the wrong thing...we all know he will, over and over again.
I do feel for the US this next 4 years...both candidates suck, they really do.
What do you think about your comment with a 4 year hindsight ?
@@ccf3294 no change, Trump was an asshole four years ago and he still an asshole now
Here we are . . . May of 2021, and we see very clearly that Trump had an utterly successful presidency with a strong economy, a good control of crime, and a fabulous business climate . . . and we see that Joe Biden and company have managed to fuck it up in less than one year.
@@scotthullinger4684 Hahaha thanks for the laugh!
@@SaultiBalldeip - Hey, be sure to highlight for me any successes which Biden has enjoyed - ZIP - and any failures of Trump.
You also need to know how to properly assign blame. Do you? I seriously doubt it.
"We would be in an America where there are no clear rules, although he gets to decide them."
Holy shit, this interviewer saw into the future.
I'm a Bernie supporter and I'm still sad about his loss, so politically I differ from Penn, but I have to say, I really enjoyed this conversation. I like that he can disagree with someone's politics and still recognize their good points. I like that.
If you like Bernie you can always apply for citizenship in Cuba, North Korea, Venezuela, or Russia.
Fuck you, commie
Penn looks weird after he lost all that weight. I didn't even consider him fat before.
Me, neither.
Well, Penn was on a ton of medication before, essentially because he was overweight. He's talked about his health problems and how losing the weight was a big boon to him.
I just made a similar comment... When I first saw him skinny, I was devastated because I assumed he was sick. He never looked fat to me, and suddenly, he looked old and sickly. I don't think he was very overweight, especially for his height. Its good that he has a healthier lifestyle now, but my goodness, eat some healthy carbs or something, get back to looking healthy, lol
Boobalopbop I think it's ironic that you associate "looking healthy" with a weight that causes massive health problems.
It is just that he was so fat for so long his skin couldn't shrink to adapt. He is rich he could get surgery if he wanted to, but he is rich so he doesnt need to.
lol, he just insists that Obama is just sooooo smart. No way anybody we know could POSSIBLY be smarter.
Everybody who knows Obama, Clinton, LBJ, Carter just LOVES them!
Like, what are these arguments? I'm very disappointed listening to parts of this. His arguments at times tend to be entirely based on an image of people put out by media, or just romanticized images of past leaders.
I understand wanting a leader you can connect to as a person, but I was looking forward to hearing a logical take on shit Trump or Hillary have done and what their policies might affect. Penn's ENTIRE discussion was based on personality for Trump, and just saying Hillary is a war hawk.
He didnt even give an argument FOR Gary Johnson other than "oh, well he doesnt say we're all going to die".
Not saying i hate Penn, but I just expected more. :/
I agree, he gave extremely weak reasons for his preferences.
those are called Trump arguments
Did you also hear the part where he says Bush was very smart too? And that every president we've had is smart. Or are too blind to your republican beliefs you can't accept one positive thing about the person you despise?
Eric the Acktor Way to jump to conclusions. I never said Obama was smart, or mentioned Bush. Or even gave ANY political alignment. If you ACTUALLY READ my original comment, you'd understand that my problem was more along the lines that Penn insisted NOBODY is smarter than Obama. Doesn't that seem a bit outrageous? Doesn't it seem pretty unlikely that we happened to elect the smartest man in America?
That was more my point.
Well, I don't know much about USA politics as I am not from there. Still, if worries do anything to one's apparent and body, seeing Obama's before and after pics is slightly disturbing.
Boy oh boy, imagine his opinions if he was being interviewed today about this topic, I wonder if he'd have a slightly different perspective on how thing's are currently going.
"I am a libertarian", or "I am a liberal" or "I am a conservative". Thinking shouldn't be a single multiple choice question.
Class act. Love that man. Can't agree with him on the Hillary & Obama stuff, but nonetheless, great interview.
Obama sucks, Hillary is sucky at many new and very low levels. Hillary is untrustworthy, unreliable, irresponsible, devious, mean, spiteful example of Wall street corruption in politics.
Trump is a racist lying sack of shit too. I stand with Gary Johnson.
Donald Trump has had over 40 years of racism and discrimination labeled on him. If he was truly an angel, why would there be such an unprecedented amount of controversy over everything he says?
Rovid Bouski Yeah, one RICH black woman working for a RICH white sack of shit.
Rising, nobody called Trump racist before he ran for president
Jillette is being too narrowly focused when it comes to the damaging impact of Citizens United and the more generally pernicious influence of money in politics. Sure, in this election cycle, upstart candidates like Bernie Sanders and Donald Trump bucked the trend, but they are just two very high-profile exceptions to the rule; both of whom, it's important to note, benefited tremendously from a lot of free media exposure. However, when you look at down ballot races where media exposure is much harder to come by and grassroots fundraising is limited, this is where the influence of big money really comes into play and where elections (and candidates) can essentially be bought.
Have you actually read the Citizens United decision?
CU is not the problem, it was a logical decision. The problem is congress is awol. No transparency, for one. We can't see who donated the big money. And also, individuals have a limit (unconstitutional!) but the big donors do not have any practical limit.
Congress could fix most of the problem tomorrow, but they benefit from it.
How did you conclude that Bernie Sanders benefited "tremendously from a lot of free media exposure." Are you joking?
Brainbuster, he benefitted from free media because no intelligent person would have promoted him unless he paid for advertisement. Instead he promised millenials things that dont belong to them, then endorsed the entity that kept him from bribing more dummies who listened to professors who couldnt find a real job or have experienced life in 30 years instead consumed by books of people who were out of their fucking mind and then Bernie bought a $600,000 summer house which sounds like the top 1% to me
Rovid Bouski Just like Trump's promises to build a wall, etc. Promises that are pipedreams and bullshit. Economically insane.
Poor Poor Penn, gonna have to see what he thinks now in 2020.
No change.
Gary Johnson is for the TPP. He must like the idea of a class system. The corporate class and their slaves....this is the outcome with the TPP
Gabriel, you are correct, happened with NAFTA. Mexicans in Mexico work for GM for pennies on the dollar compared to US labor and plants in Mexico are under far less environmental regulation. "Free" trade agreements aren't free! They cost jobs here and harm the planet on a global scale! Democrats have brainwashed their base and use Saul Alinsky Tactics to demonize anyone who dares to question them. Bill and Hillary supported legislation in the 90's that allowed massive deforestation. Regulation of US oil lead to foreign rigs ( B.P.) that have substandard safety equipment. Ever wonder why middle east oil is so cheap? No regulation. Taxes and regulation have forced companies to move to stay in business and family owned will soon be extinct under globalist policies
Rovid Bouski All we can do, is our best to wake people up....good luck buddy...Peace
You want capitalism and no freedom to sell and buy?
Kingda, at what cost? Cheap goods from countries with near slave labor who are the heaviest polluters in the world. So you trade a couple dollars for your air, water, food and job?
Rovid Bouski Get off your high horse. You, in the richest country the world has ever seen have polluted drinking water and a major party that is for less environment regulation, workers' empowerment and global warming denial. The answer to first world problems are progressive taxation and better education not trade barriers.
Good interview, but the point that Penn makes about Bernie and Trump proving that Citizen's United isn't a problem doesn't make sense. Those two did well in spite of Citizen's United. If Citizen's United didn't exist Bernie may have won the nomination. We will never know for sure.
Except for the DNC sabotaging him, which had nothing to do with Citizen's United.
Thomas McQuitty My point remains. Bernie might've have won without Citizen's United, or he might've won without DNC meddling, or both. We will never know for sure.
Actually, the DNC was helping funnel funds to Clinton from the very entities that Citizens United allowed to contribute.
The problem is foreign money in our politics ( cough, Clinton Foundation, cough)!
Amanda, picking a useless candidate like Johnson who constantly polls under 11% and Bernie supporters will still vote Clinton because Johnson isnt offering to pay all their debt
lost weight, got the worst looking mustaches ever
i would agree with you, he looked better fat
Sharpton looks like a raisin
I thought he was dying of cancer...
Penn, you look great buddy - Good for you and for inspiring thousands in this country to better themselves.
Looking good Penn! -- I was in the elevator with you at CBS during the Jerry Lewis Telethon in 1995 and you mentioned how you felt bad because of your weight.. so glad you are taking care of yourself.
What he doesn't take into account is that our legislators vote for legislation their corporate donors write.Money in politics is why the people don't get what they want and the 1 percent does.Also,in local congressional races,the corporate backed candidates are the ones who get the tv ads playing every 5 minutes.Sanders showed that a politician who works for the people can get enough small donations to run a good campaign,but the corporate media owned by oligarchs will marginalize him.We dont have single payer health care because of money.Republicans deny climate change because of money in politics.Marijuana is still illegal because of money in politics.The list goes on and on.
Not true, money in politics affects election outcomes through media and advertising. They cant buy an election but they can buy celebrities who are part of the 1% to bash and demonize anyone speaking out against the proven corrupt democratic party. They call Trump racist and xenophobic while at the same time they make racist comments in emails and use the same fear tactics they accuse Trump of.
Noöne I of whom I know heard about a carbon tax first and then decided to believe in anthropogenic climate change.
Politicians moved forward with either a carbon tax or carbon credits because those are the two broadly recognized market mechanisms for trimming down an externality and encouraging the migration to an acceptable alternative. It takes libertarians awhile to get onboard with action on climate change, since we're anti-government. But once you realize that your emissions are actually contributing to the theft of foreign shoreline, you realize that it's actually a wealth transfer. Or, in other words, what gives you the right to change the pH of my koi pond?
Climate change is a hoax, it wasnt carbon emissions that killed the dinosaurs. The earth has natural warming and cooling cycles. Pollution and contamination is real but climate change is not man made
Rovid Bouski What are you even on about, multiple factors contributed to the extinction of the dinosaurs and it is believed that the meteor only finished them off. Not sure how this is relevant. Nevertheless, the natural heating and warming of the earth is in fact classified as climate change, and it has been shown many times overwhelmingly that the earth has experienced an extreme amount of heating since the industrial revolution.
Methinks Jillette is conflating "smart" with "conniving" & "opportunistic."
I think Penn was using smart in the standard English usage of the word. Which does not contradict either of those other attributes.
He was saying they got to be President because they are smart. I think characteristics like "conniving" & "opportunistic." are more likely how.
Plenty of smart people out there have no desire to be President. Plenty of smart people do want to be President. But they lack the ugly characteristics most use to get there.
Point still remains, people who are smart and also have those ugly characteristics penetrate American politics. Fact is, the amount of closet-digging that goes on by the media is enough to prevent any rational, smart person from wanting anything to do with American politics. I'd be happy to run for president, but it wouldn't take long for the press to uncover my LSD and pot-addled 20's and my two previous marriages and crucify me over all those things. I suppose having a clean criminal record is probably a good thing, and not having killed or even attempted to kill anyone...
That's an excellent point. There is so much cynicism and hate for politicians in this country, that almost anyone who becomes president is almost certainly destined to be seen as a terrible person by at least half of the population.
I would consider him a magnificent magician if he would disappear the remaining poundage he carries. It's obscene to see this con artist pose as any type of intelligent or insightful commentator. He's unfit to speak on anything more challenging than sesame street. The count would exhaust himself enumerating this monkeys' negative qualities. Does anyone out there have anything positive to say of this twit? No relatives please. And as always, bear in mind that the idiot is a self admitted failure.
I really don't get all the negative comments, Penn has been saying this same stuff as long as I've gotten to enjoy his awesomeness. But I just keep reading comments like "I used to like penn, but after this I don't..." Doesn't make much sense to me... Penn is consistently honest (probably THE most honest celebrity that has ever existed)- and his thoughts are usually pretty fun to hear.
This guy just loves to hear his own voice, someone who really is smart would not waste a lot of time listening to him.
I know its a good thing that he lost all this weight, especially at his age... But he looked sooo much better bigger. He looked like a healthy big. He never looked "fat"... He was never someone I would describe as fat. He didn't need to lose all that weight. I think he went overboard.
He didn't lose the weight to look better, he lost it because he was unhealthy and wanted to stay alive longer. I think if he got rid of that awful mustache he'd look more like a thin version of the old friendly goofy Penn we think of him as.
when fat older people lose weight their faces end up looking saggy and that makes them look older unfortunately
Looks ultimately don't matter. I've met too many women who, at first, floored me with their beauty. However, after 15 minutes of talking with them they became very ugly to me. I have also found the converse to be true; unattractive to attractive. I use women as an example because the looks of a man has never swayed me as to my like or dislike of them at first or after. I don't know if that is unfair of me or just how i'm wired that I make no initial judgment of men.
I think he looks better now.
It's like he's a flesh sock puppet
The only proof I need for the validity of Libertarianism is Alan Greenspan's confession before congress that he had for forty years the mistaken assumption that banks could self-regulate.
Bingo. Capitalism needs to be held in check. It's unstable.
Libertarians are arguing against regulation. You should check Johnson's views before you vote...
The USA is run and controlled by banks. The corporatocracy is alive and well.
@Fred -- Your appeal to authority is a logical fallacy. It is not an argument. Also, Greenspan was wrong in two ways: 1) He said he thought the banks would not act against their own best interests and thus not give loans to people who could not pay them back, but he was wrong in that retrospective because the banks did act in their best interests because the government made giving subprime loans in their best interests. 2) The free market is self regulating; whereas, the banks are not a free market, nor is America a free market. The American system is cronyism, which is the inevitable consequence of big government, such as the kind of government that regulates. Regulation is exactly what they want. If they can get you to demand regulation, then you have been played.
Cronyism is a consequence of selfish human behavior. Any notion of morality, civics, or law are deceptions because they will always be superseded by self-serving motives.
I'm a big fan :) just listened to an amazing interview with Penn Jilette on the AoC podcast :D
Johnson's attitudes on climate change are super awesome! "Everything is pointless. The sun is going to swallow us all in a nuclear slurp. Despair, despair!" THUMBS UP RIGHT HERE IN THIS CORNER
Penn Jillette, whether I agree with him or not always has something to teach me.
Penn has really got away from using facts to support arguments to just stating feelings and opinions...
I love how Jillette makes fun of Trump's and Hillary's slogans. What's Johnson's slogan, 'I'M A GOOFY MORON! VOTE FOR ME!' ?
Wonderful interview. So many interesting topics!
Being a 33 year old white male, Marine Corps Vet, who is married to a beautifully black, college educated woman. I will vote for Johnson/Weld all day, everyday over Clinton or Trump.
+X Pozay it has everything to do anything or nothing at all. Why is that the only thing you picked out?
You should vote for TRUMP...
+Cross Roads Productions - RougeSaumurai77 explain why, please.
Well if you're voting for Johnson I'd assume your a libertarian...and 2 big things about trump is that he's pretty pro 2nd amendment and he wants to stop immigration...We're 1 supreme court judge away from loosing second amendment and illegal immigrants wildly favor big government democrats and if they aren't stopped libertarian ideas will be destroyed like they are in California.
+Cross Roads Productions - RougeSaumurai77 these are some valid points but I do disagree with some of it. I wouldn't call myself a libertarian. I have voted republic when I do vote but I find the 2 party system has been broke for some time now. I would like to have the right to make my own choices and I think I like that about them. Johnson is very pro 2nd amendment. I do not see any reason to go to the extreme fear that Trump feeds into people on immigrants. if you are not a native of America then you are a immigrant. I think we should have some security and checks in place but a wall is not going to solve this issue. There will always be people looking for hand outs and there will always be people looking to take advantage of the weak. I just want to keep enjoying my wife, my dog, our house,my guns my job, my scotch and the right of freedom and liberties. Johnson and Weld will improve on these things as Clinton and Trump will continue to punish me for having them. even though I worked for everything I have and have lost. What benefits will the other 2 bring to my daily life?
Actually it takes two people to "push the button".
The President and the SecDef.
One cannot "push" without the other.
That makes me feel so much better
Exactly and there is no button, our nukes are all analog not digital for security reasons
Actually, you're wrong. The consent is split with the President and the Secretary of Defense, yes, but what you should know is that the President can, at any given time and without notice, dismiss the Secretary of Defense and immediately reappoint a new one. Sorry to break it to you guys and bring up your worries again, but that's a loophole that essentially makes the President as the sole decision maker. If he really wants to do it, and the Sec of Def. says no, he can simply dismiss that Sec. and appoint a new one who will give him the consent. Only the President has the nuclear codes btw.
The is irrelevant.
He is speaking to the fact of how much power one person has, and that is true regardless.
Ken Le So... I was right?
..and wrong?
I stopped adding salt to my food in 1980. My tastes improved dramatically. My doctors have never told me to eat a low sodium diet.
fuckin rock on
Salt is needed for proper brain function
There is salt in almost every food.processed or not!!!
And animals still flock to salt even when food is available
You need small amount of sodium, not salt...
I've bought and read a couple of Penn's books and would like to go get this new one. It eas very nice to see this interview, and then listen to the subject able to speak at length without interruption.
I would have to respectfully disagree with Mr. Jillette on several issues. The basic one is his generalization regarding former President Nixon being universally disliked. Some of us that had direct contact with him and worked for him held him in high regard. He had no reason to lie to us or to be disingenuous with us but he showed us genuine concern about who we were and what we thought. Whereas Bill Clinton had nothing but disdain for his "inferiors" and Hillary was worse. Further, his experiences with Donald Trump caused him to feel that Donald was unready for the job. It appears to me that he prefers educated liars, devious politicians and persons of little depth of character to be his leaders. I prefer real people that may lack a mental filter that allows others (with that "filter") to lie about what they would do.
If he preferred liars without character, he'd love Trump.
Al, again, every single person on the planet old enough to speak has lied. But Hillary made a career out of it and Trump is educated.
Rovid Bouski Trump is educated? You have to be kidding.Trump may be the poorest educated candidate in the history of the USA. And he has also made a career of lying. He's a conman. Do some research.
Trump graduated Wharton
Rovid Bouski He may have graduated Wharton but he is a disgrace to the institution.
And since when does business school have anything to do with governing? Oh, it doesn't.
What Trump demonstrates on a daily basis is that he knows NOTHING about history, the Constitution, how the USA was founded, the military, dealing with other nations and cultures. Like I said. Trump is probably the poorest educated candidate in my lifetime and very possibly in the history of the USA.
great interview.
no it wasnt. Penn Jillette will lose cred within the libertarian circle just like Johnson does every time he opens his mouth. (johnson supports TPP) Trump 2016
You're pretty obsessed with TPP.
Nope, I felt it was rotten interview in that they even used Penn as a political analyst. His logic was based on so many false premises and distortions, i found it hard to give him any validity that this was an intelligent interview with a person who is a critical thinker. Penn is not . Pretty poor journalism too.
can't fix stupid, I enjoyed the interview very much, Penn tried to be fair as possible, and step in the other shoes. He is very eloquent and smart with his word choices.
Hey, look at me, I'm a libertarian. I'm opposed to all government spending that doesn't benefit me, and all laws except those that I want others to obey.
What a delight this guy is, especially at the end. As a Christian, I've never listened to an atheist I understood and genuinely liked better. Cheers.
Love Penn but he’s eating a dumpster full of humble pie now
14:30 in and so far everything he said was completely opposite of what actually happened.
@Jarhe Hunkkuhll how convenient.
@Jarhe Hunkkuhll lmao, okay.
I wish I could do more than like and share this video. I absolutely love it.
I could listen to Penn talk all day. I don't care what he's saying, it just sounds so interesting.
Number 1: citizens United may not have effected the presidential races, but look beneath the surface at all the congressional and state legislatures.
I think Pen should just run for President. Problems solved. Pretty sure he could con his way out of any mess.
Really? Presidential candidates never made petty quips at petty people? Read a history book.
Obviously I disagree with Penn on pretty much everything economic but I respect him as a human being and for always being a honest humanistic sceptic.
And their magic shows are also pretty amazing.
"i respecto his opinión, too bad we have to sent you to gulag, he was a funny guy"
Choosing between Trump or Hillary is like choosing what STD you would rather have...
Lose Lose. I'm staying in my house for the next 4 years...
I can listen to Penn all day, even though I disagree with him on a fair amount.
First comment! How many libertarian celebrities are there? Penn is a diamond in the rough grass of centrists and socialists :')
second :(
Vince Vaughn and Kurk Russell are Libertarians and I believe Aaron Lewis is one.
I think Andre 3000 from OutKast is one lol
Trey Parker and Matt Stone (South park), and Drew Carey.
Maybe kelly Clarkson and Lupe Fiasco too..
I'm a centrist and I also respect Penn quite a bit.
Mr. Penn I do love you though, because you actually do have humility and do make great points.
Penn Jillette is such a nice guy, who seems like he'd be fun to hang out with. I don't buy into his libertarianism, but I'm glad it's a real opinion he has.
Anyone told Penn who won yet?
Daddy's Girl He knows.
Well, Hillary received 3 million MORE votes.
@@mike44njdevils1 😂
Why do I read CZcams comments? Why?
That description of art and Bob Dylan. Fantastic stuff.
Excellent and thought provoking interview. Don't agree with his stance, but I like that he's capable of nuance, unlike most of the comment section.
10:37 Lmao
you can have legitimate qualms with Trump even as a conservative, maybe even go as far as to say you don't like him. but he's WORSE THAN HILLARY? I thought Penn was a great champion of reason and logic. I lost so much respect for him just then
I massively respect him, and I am a libertarian mixed with a conservative, and yes I voted Trump, even though RAND Paul was my guy.
He sounds like how I speak when I’m far too drunk and think everything I say is really smart and thoughtful
Really??!! He's "all in on Gary Johnson"??!! Gary Johnson didn't even know what "Aleppo" was - he thought it was a acronym for something!!
I honestly don't know why anyone would support Trump unless it was due to nihilism or pure racism. But damn, his supporters are fanatics. What's in it for them? It seems incredibly depressing.
Whats in it for them? NOT HILLARY! Good enough for me
+dnort4343 Seriously? Fatuous comparison, although Bernie ppl are pretty damn fanatical. Trump freaks and Bernie freaks are both annoying.
Actually, historically, Democrats are, and always have been, the white supremacists. The KKK was a Democrat organization at its inception. It would be a bit silly for them to pledge support for Donald Trump, because Hillary is the white supremacist in this race.
It was a Republican president that drafted the Emancipation Proclamation which his opponents opposed... who were all Democrats.
I'd really like a follow up on this after 6 months of President Trump.
Kayden Fox
Its bad.
Real bad.
Things are going very good not perfect.. but good..!!!
I always have liked Mr. Jillette I am an idiot for never seeing his show while in Vegas. He is a true inspiration and a True American.
Big fan, Penn. I couldn't vote for Trump or Clinton, so I voted for Johnson, myself. I knew the Libs had no chance, but were closest to where I am. But yeah. Johnson wasn't a very good standard bearer.
i dont really understand why people are voting for Trump, but I feel like Trump sees the presidential race as the ultimate popularity contest. i just feel like he says whatever he thinks will make people pay just enough attention to slide him in, but not enough to realize he may not mean any of it. i just feel none of the honesty his supporters find so refreshing.
Picture that 99.99% of the American people have literal shit inside their skulls then it all starts to makes sense. Botaxia vs El Trumpo!!! .... Jokes aside.. If you actually are keen to learn about the collapse of your own society, I suggest Morris Berman's trilogy on the collapse of the American empire. "The Twilight of American Culture", "Dark Ages America" and "Why America Failed". Then if you are feeling adventurous get into some Marcuse's One-Dimensional Man...
+Ker Plunk I'll look into your suggestions.
i get that most people aren't that educated and make little attempt to educate themselves on political issues. i myself am guilty of it, tho not so much from being lazy as just being fed up with the games as well as a good chunk of my depression in my late highschool years being attributed to my frustration with the state of politics. I get it too. in this age where the truth is being smothered by misinformation being spread by both the media and the internet itself, finding the truth is becoming more and more daunting a task. In this age sensationalism sells and is what people want the world to be like. I don't think people are really THAT stupid, but rather everybody is angry and that WANT to be angry, to the point we can't have reasonable conversations anymore or discuss rational answers to our so called "problems". I see Donald Trump as someone who doesn't see that as a bad thing, but rather an opportunity to slide someone very unqualified into a position of power. Like he thinks being president means you'll be the most popular person ever. Someone like that will say whatever they can to get there, with no concern for the consequences of what they're stirring up. Like I said I know people are mad, but I just don't get how they can be that mad that they'll believe him. Politics these days is a sideshow I don't approve of in the least, but Trump is a player some how standing his own in a game he doesn't know how to play.
sorry for the long comment.
Ker plunk, I find it funny that you have made an argument against someone with a relatively high negative public rating and then question the intellect of the 70% that find the same candidate unfavorable as you. What are your standards for the top 1%?
+Gabe King well that's a very radical answer that assumes a lot about me.
Let me give you my quick analysis on Trump upon further studying this election cycle.
If you examine his mannerism in speech and gestures you'll see patterns of both positive and negative reinforcements. His neuro-linguistic programming cues suggests mastery in persuasion and negotiation while his self-planted controversies suggest the mark of forethought and "bigger picture" planning ("Hey there goes MY african-american"). Essentially, he baits the media with nuggets of prose that could easily be misconstrued or slandered. The media bites EVERY SINGLE TIME. This in turn refreshes the media cycle and draws focus on himself granting him several tens of thousands dollars worth of advertisement at a time.
If that isn't enough to convince you that he has an idea of what he is doing turn your attention to the amount of money he has spent funding his campaign and compare it to Hillary or even better Bernie. Then calculate how many votes he garnered during the Primaries in contrast to the other 2 candidates and divide that by the amount of money they spent. Tally it up and you get $13.97: $17.77: $4 per vote, Hillary: Bernie: Trump respectively.
Economically, the better choice is Trump. Geopolitically, the better choice is Hillary because she possesses the psychopathic qualities to destabilize powers in the middle east that don't abide to the petrodollar. At this point in time with America's federal debt, food stamps, student loans, money printing, health care costs at an all time high and labor force participation, median family income, home ownership diminishing we don't need any more interventionist spending. Take what you will from this.
Let's see Obama talk to me about average case analysis in algorithms....or diffie hellman...or Fermat's theorems...or basically any other math/computer science topic... I don't really think Obama is as smart as you think he is. He's definitely smart, but if all presidents were Buckeroo Bonzai, then we'd not have a need for DARPA, NASA, NSA, Naval Research Labs, Carnegie Mellon, MIT....the list goes on. There are plenty of people smarter than the president, trust me. I might call him "cunning" and "clever" though.
P.S. Yes! The jacket lives!!
I agree with your first four sentences, but there was no mention of race in his comment.
I don't think you know what "intelligence" means.
You are a Moron...I am sure Mr Trump can talk about average case analysis in alogrithms
+Cliven Longsight re: constitutional law - this is a very fair point. I'm just trying to illustrate that everyone is good at some things but not everything.
BUT
"And let us see most physicists expound in an EDUCATED manner on Constituional Law, which is O's field"
+Jacob Smith thank you! some people just 空気読めない。
I so admire and respect Penn Jillette!
Pretty much everything he says makes sense and resonates with me to the core!
I would like very much to meet him someday! .... in this lifetime.... ;-)
Well, I was tempted to compliment Matt and Penn on what I thought was one of the best Reason Interviews I've ever seen, and...
Well, it was.
I do disagree with Penn's comments about 'which president is/was "smarter," ' but I think that's a misuse of the word 'smarter,' as the use of 'clever' to describe a horse. Today, imnsho, virtually all politicians are there for glory, money and The Power To Control Other People, and little else. "Follow the money" is just SO 20th Century. It's Follow The Power (over others) today.
Still, a great interview, with Matt asking excellent open-ended questions and Penn... well, being Penn. Loved it. Thanks!
well he really did fail in his prediction
1952mclean trump has literally gotten more done than any other president in history by this point in their tenure, he’s only a joke to liberals in the media and so far he has not been corrupt or unethical
@@SaturnTubes
Ehem
FDR, JFK, Lincoln, Roosevelt and many other significant presidents have done mountains more than Trump has up to this point of their terms, which isn't being helped by his response to Coronavirus
@@thenumberfour6455 Incorrect, for a variety of reasons.
@@SaturnTubes
Would you care to elaborate?
@@thenumberfour6455 Second that, I would love to hear the "variety of reasons" too
Don't read the comments. Just don't.
Middle of the road... Gary Johnson and Bill
Weld are running a clean campaign . They have kept things positive and refreshingly honest. Fiscal responsibility that seems to have ben lost, and stand for true individual liberty.
I wonder if Penn would ever consider running for president if he was asked. If he does, I'd vote for him at an instant
Anybody who uses the "Trump is racist," argument, has lost all creditability.
I would love to know how someone would even determine if Obama is smart. Speeches? If so, I'm sure the credit should go to someone else.
It's not the speeches, it's that I generally get the impression that he's thoughtful and reflective on issues.
Brion Foulke Shown through speeches? What else is there?
How would one determine that obama isn't smart?
Michael Haimerl The way he speaks in interviews, mainly.
One would determine Obama isn't smart by his retarded economic and social "insights". His grasp on issues isn't deep at all. H gives the same simplistic low order " logical"/purely emotional explanations as all the other dumb "progressives".
Penn is an atheist who acts out a religious structure. He certainly isn’t an atheist in his actions
Great to see intelligent discussions like this. I don't really see how the libertarian thing would work in real life, but there is an oppurtunity to question the status quo right now.
I hate to say it but a vote for a Libertarian in this election is a vote for Killary. I'm a libertarian and I'm voting for Trump. F! the establishment and politics as usual.
Trump is a sociopath. Only an idiot would vote for Trump.
This Brexiteer salutes you :)
Any you think Hillary is normal? Give me a break!
Funny, Hilary supporters tell me a vote for Johnson is a vote for Trump.
This tells me that a vote for Johnson is just that, a vote for Johnson.
Tom Schwarz This election is not about breaking the 2 party system yet. It's about nationalism(Trump) Vs Globalism(Hillary(Killary. Sorry, I had too:P)). So in terms of pragmatism it really is a vote between Trump and Hillary so a vote anywhere else only raises the chances of a congress vote. It would be better for all concerned,just like with my Brexit, if it is a majority win for either camp and 3rd party votes work against that.
If you truly wish to vote Johnson then fair enough but I do detect a political plant to split voting demographics in favour of Hillary. Just my 2 pence good sir.
I respect Penn Jillette, but Gary Johnson? You say that Bush Jr is smart and you support Johnson?
His genuineness is contagious.
It's weird that Penn Jillette now looks like an old high school teacher that people might say almost looks like Penn Jillette
This election had not one good candidate. Not Trump, not Clinton, not Johnson or Stein.
Hopefully Trump at least won't disappoint, now that the matter is settled.
I have some bad news.
It gets worse.
Obama is smart? What career would Obama be qualified for, If Obama was not a community organizer, part of the cool-table, and came to the presidency after an unpopular Bush war?
That's what I thought.
He wasn't qualified for the position he has now.
He was a natural born citizen and over 35. He was qualified.
+Tom Leonard thank you. I'm tired of people getting "qualifications" and "credentials" confused.
Tom Leonard- So I am qualified to be president. BTW. My platform would be. 1. Fair Tax 2. Looser-Pay-Law 3. No minimum wage 4.NO osha. 5. No Women right to vote.6. NO EPA.
CatMan DO- Sure you are. I prolly wouldn't vote for you, but you meet all the legal qualifications.
I wasn't ready for Bowie. I never saw a show. I know now I have to see Penn soon. One of the biggest lessons I've learned in life is that if you don't do something now, you're not going to do it.
Ahhhh, Penn, you're quite the illusionist when you suggest that Citizens United isn't bad for the country.
Ugh and then he voted for Hillary. What!?
because the guy is a screaming liberal traitor moron, so what's new ?
@@paulfrancis8836 libretarinism isn't a statement of right or left. On most political compasses liberalism is on the left/west, conservatism is on the right/east, authoritarianism is north, and libretarinism is south.
That subtle South Park reference. Authoratay
Boy were you WRONG Penn Zeallott .... Has your opinion changed now . Economy , Jobs , Immigration , Trade , and so on . He hasn't failed at a campaign promise yet !!
loved the south park reference. go penn!!!
What's with the red fingernail Penn? What does it mean?
Just an excerpt from him: Essie “Jelly Apple Red.” “It means I shot a reporter for asking personal questions” is the answer I often give. It’s really a joke with my mom. When I first started juggling and doing magic, my mom told me that people were looking at my hands so I should make sure my fingernails looked nice. In order to mock her, I put nail polish on my left ring finger (my nicest finger). It was just to make fun of mom. She was disgusted and said “Oh Penn!” It turned into a tribute to my mom. She died in 2000, so it seems unlikely you’ll ever see me without it. The pinky ring on my right hand was my dad’s and the nail polish on my left hand is a joke with my mom. I don’t need anything to remember them by, but I like having something to remember them by.
oh, do they?
Hit mother tld him to get a manicure because when he performs people will be looking at his hands, and he should want them to look good. He then went and painted all his fingernails red. The one remaining red nail is in memory of his mother.
Penn Jillette for president. I'm being serious...
Did he say Bill Clinton was a good person, and anyone would love to hangout with him...?
Gotta hand it to a man who wasn't afraid to stick to how he feels even if it costed him a win on the Celebrity Apprentice... Regardless whether you like his political view or not that's a very respectable quality that is almost unheard of anymore.
13:42 voting for Hillary Clinton IS NOT being all in on Gary Johnson
Did you miss the part 18 seconds later when he said although he had said that he had changed his mind?
Chris Forstner I guess not....maybe I was too busy writing my indignant comment to hear it...woops
The fact that he thought Hillary was in any way worthy of the presidency just killed all my faith in that asshole
Sdag, he said in the interview that he was considering voting for hillary, he also said he changed his mind but for a supposed smart guy, you cant claim to be intelligent and consider voting Hillary.
No. I hereby claim that I am intelligent, and I considered voting for Ms Clinton, and in fact will do so, circumstances permitting. This contradicts your assertion, note that ypu did not specify that one cannot _be_ intelligent and support Clinton.
The bit about presidential intelligence seems off to me, Obama most certainly wasn't smart in the way he is saying, he had smart people feeding him information and writing his speeches, but as soon as he had to go without those assists, he dithered more than spoke, and what he had to say was more filler or fluff until he could get back onto what he had prepared for or until his auto cue was working again. Same goes for the likes of Bush and Clinton. The main requirement for a president is to be a showman who can gather competent people and delegate the work to ensure the smooth running of the country. The difference between Trump and the likes of Obama, Clinton, Bush etc, is he is not a career politician, he would rather wing it when he isn't on autocue or being fed info and not sputter buzz words and um and ah until he could get back on the rails, he would rather speak his mind which is a big no no in politics.
Agreed. When Trump does go off script, at least he's not saying how bad America and her people are like obozo always did. I've yet to cringe when Trump speak extemporaneously, which I can't say the same for most politicians.
what I love about dylan is that he has managed to combine being the worlds best songwriter and the worlds worst performer, for exactly the reasons penn describes
This aged incredibly well. Trump did in fact change the Republican Party, and yes, he didn’t get almost anything done. I’m not done with the video, but I love how smart these guys are. It’s unfortunate we have to worry about a trump re election