Steven Lawson: Against the Claims of Atheism
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- In our age, as in every other age, there are those who deny the existence of God. Recent years have witnessed the rise of a particularly militant form of atheism, represented in the writings of authors such as Richard Dawkins, Sam Harris, Christopher Hitchens, and Daniel Dennett. Although the "new atheism" is not all that different from the old atheism, Christians today must stand firm against the challenge of atheism.
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Hitchens recently died and now, he knows better... Wow. Powerful.
No man can run from God
Sure they can, David. That's how people get to Hell.
@@antimechanistic4631 God is there too, pouring out his wrath
Thank you very much brother
Thank you for sharing the good news of the gospel.
Amen!
He is an amazing Preacher.
Even if the atheists were right, who would ever come to know it? They have no hope of ever being vindicated. But if Jesus is correct, and He is, then the day will come when all will know it. And at that point it will be too late.
Pascal wager but they even refute that
@@ohnobo14 Yes, Christians have refuted Paschal's Wager. But that's not Paschal's Wager. I am not saying that one should be a Christian "just in case" - as many Christians have pointed out, false faith does not save. What I am saying is that the day will come when we Christians will be vindicated, and all creation will know it. But even if atheism were true, there will never come a time when atheists will be vindicated - the only thing they can look forward to is the worms eating their flesh.
If atheists aren't angry at God and Christians could they please stop ALL ad hominem attacks and straw man attacks and blaspemous memes on internet forums.
when you people STOP LYING about reality , THEN we'll stop telling religious people THAT they're LYING ABOUT REALITY ,
it's quit simple actually
@@ThermaL-ty7bw Reality? Why is there something rather than nothing? Was the origin of the Universe immaterial or immaterial? If it was material then please provide evidence of something material before the Big Bang.
1 Cor 2:14
The natural person does not accept the things of the Spirit of God, for they are folly to him, and he is not able to understand them because they are spiritually discerned.
Which claim does atheism make?
Atheism make NO claims about your god. Zero. We simply don't believe because we do not see any evidence to suggest your god exists. Simple as that. The only claims about a god are made by believers. And extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence, and you and yours have provided no such evidence.
The title makes no sense the only claim of Atheism is that I do not believe in God.
25:26 :)
When I was a de facto atheist, I never thought through the ramifications of my silly benighted belief. Atheism was untenable and quixotic.
Atheism is not a belief, though. It's the non-acceptance of a god claim. You still don't accept all the other god claims, apart from your own belief.
You’re not being truthful.
Whining about "militant atheists" but being militant yourselves since 2000 years? Incredible double standards.
Lawson gave no arguments for his position, just rhethoric hot air and cheap jokes insulting such integer persons like Hitchens and Dawkins.
You have rejected the truth of God for a lie...that is why you consider it a waste of time!
@@TMcConnaughhay Totally wrong. I have recognized the lie. You are still avictim. My pity.
just...what evidence??
Nothing + no one = nothing. Look around, do you see anything?
You asking the question "what evidence" is all the evidence you should need.
@@samuelrosenbalm well that made even less sense.
@@RafaelKeveluk It makes perfect sense. He says that your presence and ability to question anything indicates that there is a God. Because if there was ever nothing, there could never be anything. Period. Existence itself speaks of a pre-existing Creator.
@@LogHewer When you say "Because if there was ever nothing, there could never be anything." that's basically just your opinion. We don't know if universes just spring out of nothing randomly like quarks seem to appear and disappear without a cause.
Likewise, existence only speaks to existence itself. You could, for instance, intuit a watchmaker from a watch since you already know watchmakers make watches. But you can't intuit a mountainmaker from a mountain because we have no previous knowledge of person making mountains.
To me that's the same with the universe or existence. We have never seen an existence maker to intuit that existence needs a maker so we can't just assume it does.
Hope that made sense!
Atheism isn’t a truth claim, it’s just a lack of belief in one more god than you.
TL;DW
Atheist: "I don't believe your god because I can't test his existence. I don't believe your book because it reads like bronze age middle eastern fiction."
Steven: "You are saying god doesn't exist and my book is saying you are a fool!!!"
Atheist: "Bruh."
All of creation is evidence of a creator God. A Christian knows why there is something rather than nothing unlike the atheist.
@@ag7075 All I'm saying is I don't believe you. Why?
You called it creation, so that leads it smoothly into asking for a creator. What if I call it reality or existence? Does reality need a realitor? Does existence need an existor? See how the word you used is biased toward a conclusion?
You say a Christian "knows" why there is something rather than nothing. I say we want a better explanation than "God did it". Especially since there's no convincing evidence of this God character.
What is radical unbelief? And quit lying about assaults by atheism. Another lie: Christopher Hitchens is trying to bring down all references to a god.
Decent exegesis of Psalm 14 and Romans 1, but Lawson never really dealt with the claims of atheism, other than to say they were wrong. Disappointing.
Who cares about the claims of atheists! Biblically, they don't exist and will be, without excuse! What Scripture says is what matters! Not claims, of people who don't exist!
I was writing a long comment giving my thoughts. I deleted it all. We are so very far apart. Your deliberate ignorance of what the atheist actually believes guarantees more atheists in the future than any book by a British academic. Good night and sleep well.
Poor, poor Christians.
poor, lost atheist
Demon maggot? Hmmmm,
Hell is where their, (the worms eating YOUR FLESH for ALL ETERNITY) worm dies not,
Or as in the Hebrew *maggot*.
Doesn't sound too appetizing to me, though...
We Pray you will REPENT OF your WICKEDNESS and SINS, & ACCEPT JESUS CHRIST AS YOUR LORD AND SAVIOR.
In the Name of Jesus do We Pray,
AMEN AND AMEN
@@Mickey007 You can pray till your ass falls off but without *EVIDENCE* for a god, why would we believe you again???
god(s) were and are created by men
most if not all of them are of course, doesnt everyone no that? that is the condemnation of the one true God who is, i thought that was old hat? but there is a God who is not created. You are not telling christians anything new. lol Gods were created by men. Is this supposed to be some sort of brilliant insight? the old and new testament and to this day is full of idolatry, the worship of false Gods who are the imagination of men? nothing new here am i supposed to be impressed? are atheists just parroting each other?
Had to stop at 21:00 as this so misrepresented how I was as an "angry" atheist. I certainly was not _pretending_ God didn't exist. Even now, often I *feel* like there is no God, because my experiences are so ordinary and/or tactile, it's hard to imagine a supernatural realm existing in those moments. I have to go through a list in my head of all the reasons I believe, and then I just accept God exists, even though it doesn't *feel* like it's truth (facts aren't equal to feelings). Nothing like what this message states, sorry. I can understand how people can go with their feelings, that reality is only what we see, hear, touch.
Oh, man, my wishful thinking is that there is no God to be answerable to, no heaven to glorify someone other than myself, no hell to torment my precious loved ones, no rules to live by. I _want_ to be my own god, living for myself and satisfying every itch without guilt or shame. And then dying to experience painless nonexistence. I didn't "feel" pregnant, either -- I couldn't see, hear or touch it, so it was too hard to imagine to feel real. I had to remind myself of the blood-test, the physical symptoms, the doctor's words. Similar thing. Feelings aren't reliable indicators of facts.
I hear you. I've sat here for two minutes, trying to figure out which one to start with. This is why I don't usually bite these kinds of things -- it's too big an answer. There's so many varied things that convince me, so I'll just put the titles (each one of these has fify bullet points). The so-called "god of the [plethora of] gaps. The phenomenal wisdom and beauty of Christ. The unlikeliness of the repellent gospel to appeal to anyone (worship a disgraced, dead jew as God, testimony of said jew raising from the dead from women in an age when they had no voice, noted embarrassment of disciples who were the spreaders of this news). The phenomenal wisdom and beauty in "accidental, mindless" nature. The moral law imprinted on every human heart that says, "That's not fair," and, "They deserve what they got."
As an atheist, I wondered why we all take such offence at being lied to or gossiped about. These are things we all enjoy ... if they're not directed toward anyone we love. It's a moral law, I realised, and tried to explain it away with Evolution. The more I tried, the more the above things came to mind, and not only did Evolution not have the answers, the Bible did.
Unlike other religions, where power was for the strong, for the men, for the elite, Christianity put all people on the same playing field: "God is not a respecter of persons." This is the start of more rambling, I suppose, but these are the things I cannot ascribe to coincidence anymore. The volume of improbabilities was too overwhelming for me to deny the existence of God any longer.
Admitting this to others was the most humiliating thing of my life, because I'd been so staunchly against it.
No worries. I've deleted my G+ account, which is how I used to get PMs, so I hope I still get a notification.
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It's been four years, what path are you on, now?
Go pray in your bedroom buddy. You Still didn’t present any proof or evidence of god 😂
I'm a new openly now fire brand atheist and it's guys like this spewing this misinformation about atheism that really push my buttons. Taking a stab at Hitchens so close after him passing and the audience laughing? I wouldn't do that to any person I have ever disagree upon. You should be ashamed of yourselves. This whole video just made me hate Christianity even more so keep posting these up and sorry to say but the atheist movement has become and watching Christianity dwindle into a minority in America is oh so sweet. Soon the foxholes will be full of atheists. This world no longer needs any religion. The atheists have grown up and you should join us.
NotTheseGuysAgainGaming I'm a fire brand Christian after many years of atheism and it is atheists spewing misinformation about Christianity that pushes my buttons. This whole video just made me hate atheism even more. To each his own I guess.
+NotTheseGuysAgainGaming He's got you there buddy :T
p.s I don't join worthless and rebeliious group who are so narrow-minded to realize the truth because... you simply aren't ready for it. Don't worry. Hopefully, you'll realize it and join our side (even though this isn't a way of choosing sides, it's about living better through living in God) God bless, dude.
+Luis Jiménez Not really sure how anyone got me and got me at what. Just because you really want to believe something is true doesn't make it so. Continue your brainwashing and your cult of Christians I choose to live in the real world and not fairy tales. If I prayed for things to happen I would be sitting around for a long time.
+NotTheseGuysAgainGaming Alright! I will continue to enjoy this "cult" you say I'm in. But remember, anything bad happens to you (and I wish you nothing but the best) don't come all mad and blaming God about it. He will, instead, want you to repent and go back to Him. He'll accept you in no time n.n
Living alone and handling Everything in your life could turn bad. *just saying*
Again, God bless, dude.
+ProfoundClarity I'm Christian but I have to say that when I heard this I thought the same thing, "bad taste!" I enjoy Steven Lawson's teaching, but I couldn't help thinking how cold his statement was about Hitchens. I had to ponder it for a while. I know we make remarks about people from the past who have hated God, statements such as about Voltaire's home being used to distribute Bibles, and remarks like that can be very insensitive and cold even given the distance in years that we are separated from that person. I couldn't help but wonder how much time needs to pass after the person has died before it would be considered okay to make similar remarks, if at all.
You're absolutely right, since Christianity is true, shouldn't we as Christians (I'm talking about we Christians, not you) pity these poor souls all the more? Shouldn't there be compassion? I suppose in some sense we are very sad for these people because their suffering is NEVER going to end! Not ever. It won't even let up a little, not even slightly, not the least little bit! It will be 100% suffering FOREVER! That's a horrifying thought!
On the other hand, the time for compassion and caring has passed. They've made their choice to reject God (even if it was a non-choice or for the lack of choosing)! They chose sin over God; and God, because he is holy, holy, holy MUST punish sin - SEVERELY! In our limited minds we think things like, "yeah, but forever? Why can't they just pay for it and then be set free?" But that's just the point - that's how AWFUL sin is!
We tend to think that there must be a point at which enough should be enough. But GOD, who is the only One whose thinking is not distorted, confused, tainted, or lacking in any way, and whose judgment is 100% pure and just, informs us that even the least of sins is so unholy that it must be dealt with ETERNALLY, forever, without end! Sin is that sinful, and God is that holy! But because there can be no love without justice, God, who is 100% perfect love, must punish sin in a perfectly just manner - which requires all of eternity to accomplish. Anything else would not be just. It is impossible for God to not punish sin in this manner because it would be contrary to his very nature, and God cannot be God and non-God.
I say the time for compassion is now passed because whatever good was in people before they passed, was there because of God. But now, because they chose to disbelieve God, or to remain with a lack of belief in God (John 3:16-18) they remained in their sins until they died, at which point whatever goodness that may have been there before has now been evacuated and their present state is one of only sin and hatred for God. There is nothing redeemable left. Even now, when there is no doubt about God left to them, they still hate and reject him! It is this that is the reason that Christians can seem so cold when they say things like what Lawson said.
But, also because God is a loving God, he has established a way for us to escape the righteously deserved punishment that we all have so wretchedly brought upon ourselves, and that was in the eternal payment the he himself met so that any of us who chooses can escape the day of judgment that is in each our not so distant futures.
Just because you really want to disbelieve something is true doesn't make it not so.
Funny *FACT* !!! Atheïsts do not make any claims.
Atheísm deal with one and one subject only!!!
Theíst claim there is a god.
Atheísts reject that claim because no theísts EVER has provided ANY EVIDENCE to warrant such a believe.
Remember *EVIDENCE* ????
*Evidence* - the available body of facts or information indicating whether a belief or proposition is true or valid. In other words, its something Christianity is lacking.
Simply , the atheist have a spirit of stupor ( Romans 11:8 )
They see , cannot see .
They hear , cannot hear .
I was an atheist till working at the cancer patients . I saw the difference how patients died . It was like brightest day and darkest darkness .
We are a spiritual being , only explains by the spiritual dimension .
From California
@@sundelong2727 Still missing: *EVIDENCE* for the existance of a god.
@@boterlettersukkel you are the evidence. in the end of our lives we will see if there is or none just wait
As Dr Steve Lawson shared in Romans 1, the evidence is everywhere. Creation is the evidence. Nothing cannot produce something. That's law of logic.
When i look atheist denial of God, i remmember the word:
1 Corinthians 1:22-25
For the Jews require a sign, and the Greeks seek after wisdom:But we preach Christ crucified, unto the Jews a stumblingblock, and unto the Greeks foolishness;But unto them which are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God, and the wisdom of God.Because the foolishness of God is wiser than men; and the weakness of God is stronger than men.
Atheist just like Jews that requires evidence to belief, and the evidence is given to them in work, death and ressurection of Christ, but they deny it, because its doesn’t fit to what they desire. And Atheist do the same, that complain there is no evidence to make them belief that there is a God, but they denied evidence given by God in God creation and God conscience in their hearth that testify there must be God, and further they deny the scripture that testify that there is The God.
Because deep down they hate God.
I just hope, they realized that the atheist should realize that they know nothing what condition after death, because its beyond material evidence. Its too arogant to state that after death is nothing, just because there is no material evidence.
Of course there is no material evidence, since its realm of spritual. But atheist should consider this, you know nothing what happened after death is, but deep down your conscience always remind you about it.
Atheism doesn't make claims. Not believing in God is not a claim.
Yawn ... Of course it's a claim. It's even a negation.
@@jaikee9477 Wrong. If there is a jar of marbles and you tell me there are 120 marbles in the jar (without counting) it is perfectly reasonable of me to say that I don't believe it. I am claiming there ISN'T 120 marbles in the jar, just that there is no reason to believe it.
I do not claim that God does not exist, but I do not believe because there is insufficient evidence to warrant belief. This is not a claim.
@@jaikee9477It's not a claim, FFS.
The fact this is labeled under education is a joke.
You learnt something then eh? Or do you just believe it's a joke?