The Strange Career of Phil Jones
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Phil Jones made his first appearance for Manchester United in 712 days when he faced Wolverhampton Wanderers in January 2022. That appearance came in his 11th year at Old Trafford.
But what has happened to the defender that was once backed as “the best England player of his generation”? Seb Stafford-Bloor explains how comparisons to a semi-mythical Man United legend put Jones on a pedestal, and how constant injuries knocked him off it.
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This is actually really heartbreaking. Memes aside, its terrible to have an entire career washed away by jokes and injuries.
And trolls and man city fans called him Phil jonesta made United Fans hates him more
I was shocked that he was still under 30 and had been given multiple new contracts over a decade. He should have gone on loan 7 years ago.
@@007Fusiion can't go on loan if you are best mates with the physio
The salary he’s been drawing will act as some sort of redress for him!
Yeah, I’m the scheme of things, Phil Jones lives a lifestyle that we don’t and cant, he’s loaded
The testimonial story is heartbreaking. It’s so easy to forget that these footballers are people, and they do read what is said about them online.
The guy is earning millions of pounds for chilling 95% of the time and playing football every now and then, I wouldn't worry about him
@@hornby396 Just because he earns money doesn't necessarily mean that it can substitute his bad feelings/emotions. A stupid perception.
@@rockingttalent3666 Don't bother. Some people will always choose to only see the money and refuse to see the human being at all. Some people are just like that. It's not necessarily envy in every case, but definitely a lack of empathy. And you can't argue empathy into someone, especially on the internet.
@@lonestarr1490 I'm sorry i don't feel empathy for millionaires
@@toastedt140 didn't know millioners were not humans.
That so sad he didn’t want a testimonial because he thought no one would show up. As a Man U fan I have always thought he was unlucky, he came at a bad time in the club at the end of sir Alex’s career and was kind of the scape goat for everything bad happening during that time. He isn’t the worst defender and he does seem to try his hardest when he is out on the pitch, he is just unlucky
It's true about testimonial???
@@Gnashercide yeah it’s a recent quote as well
Jeez, that's heavy.
I'm not even a ManU Supporter but now I kinda wanna have a Phil Jones Jersey.
We man utd fans tried everything to stop the memes. We were fed up of rival fans calling us meme fc and making fun of our every player like lingard, Luke shaw, Lukaku, Felliani, Fred. In the end we knew that there's no going back once you are a meme so we stopped trying to defend them.
It's particularly pertinent to the reference to the Munich air disaster, but if you're really a fan of the club, you know not to call us Man U.
Vidic
So underrated that even tifo forgot his name
Thanks for pointing it out, I sensed something strange seeing Ferdinand- Matic but didn't really dwell on it.
I still remember watching his debut season for Blackburn. Best debut youngster I'd seen since Rooney. He was a beast physically. Out muscling grown men and experienced professionals like it was nothing. Football could have been so different for Phil.
Reminded me of de ligt tbf
There were no class forwards during that time in the PL
@@el-youtub3r402 yeah, RVP, Dzeko and Berbatov we're such terrible strikers. 🙄
@@meow5280 They were all in the injury list. Jones just faced their b replacement
@@el-youtub3r402 tell me you know nothing about football without saying that you know nothing about football
I am a Liverpool fan and of course have indulged in memes on Jones and Maguire. But that one line from Jones about only his mum and dad turning up made me sad. Damn, that guy has gone through alot and gives me a new perspective...
I think the face pulling is fair game to an extent (although many took it too far) but I think his own club fan base might want to look at themselves about how some of them treated him. The outrage over him not giving up his shirt number etc, that quote about his parents relates to what United fans think of him (Liverpool fans are hardly going to go to a untied player testimonial) a lot of the away humour was superficial, it was a bit more vitriolic internally.
Same here, bro.. Enjoy the memes of the facial expressions, but he's headstrong
@@WaniZame so away fans can make fun but not the home ones?
Imagine all the joy he's given us through out the years with the memes. He's football's Robin Williams, the tortured man that gives joy upon joy.
@@HC-kn2sq that is an incredibly stupid comment.
I mean, Jones only cost a few million to sign, has played over 200 games, and has been at the club for over 10 years. He may not have lived up to his potential but that’s still an impressive resume for any player
If anything the mocking and ridicule just goes to show how toxic United fans are
@@-_._.-_-._._.- couldn’t agree more, but I think a lot of our fans who make memes and joke about him are too young to remember when he first came to the club
Has a Premier League Winners Medal as well. How many players can say that?
@@mangofangoe315 some priceless own goals as well
@@mangofangoe315 so does Pascal Cygan… it doesn’t always mean something
Ferdinand and Matic the formidable centre back duo
Matic was in his 30s more than 10 years ago, you see
The man is clearly still at Manchester United in his forties
Vidic
@@riturajjha *Matic the Tifo guy even said it
@@williambergamot1342 ok.. if he says .. then matic it is
😂😂
Didn't realize Matic was in Manchester in 2011 as a Centre Back but the things you learn on this channel continue to intrigue and surprise me.
He meant Nemanja Vidic not Matic 🤒
@@danielasafoboakye4260 You. Don't. Say.
If Matic was in his 30s in 2011, explains why his pace has gone now 😂
He plays like he’s that old tbf
@@danielasafoboakye4260 ✈️🙆
I think his physicality and workrate is unquestionable, they are two attributes that you really require to be a top centre back. Back when he used to play regularly, I felt he didn't have the best disapline though... Every so often it was almost like he was a Labrador.. happy to be out and chasing the ball. He did really well against Wolves though, deserves more chances (providing he is fit).
workrate is more to midfielder or part of 3 CB system, so when you got drawn forward there's still cover at the back.
Morgan Freeman narrator voice: ''But Phil sadly could not stay fit''
So he had injuries. A shame, but hardly unique
He got an assist in the wolves game and lost 1-0 to a team who struggle to score. Even when he "plays well" he's terrible.
@@JamesHussain82
so,,,, jones are to be blamed for losing1 - 0?
if anything, its the team
That testimonial quote is spiritbreaking
It really is.
Thank you for pointing out that Matic wasn't Ferdinand's centre back partner. Apologies, we got the wrong Nemanja. 🇷🇸🙏
cmon man
Still had a photo of vidic. All good 👍🏾
To be fair we even use the same song for them both.
Yes it was defintely a photo
How could you not know lmao
I genuinely have such a soft spot for him. He was ridiculously good those first couple of seasons, like Fergie said, he marked prime Ronaldo out of the game at the Bernabau. He was a monster. His injury record, a couple of gaffes that every defender makes, and the fact he became a punchline, completely derailing his confidence, really hampered what could have been an incredible career.
I'm so pleased he got a great reception when he returned, he looked like he can still do it, I hope he manages to find a move elsewhere and rebuild his career.
Never knew matic and Ferdinand played together!
I also confuse matic and vidic 😂😂
Matferd
Ironically his last game he played against Wolves this year he played really great. If it wasn't for him it would have been a 3+ goal defeat. Varane actually played worse than him so maybe Ragnick should give him a shot for the next few games. Maguire is untrustworthy and Lindelof seems very inconsistent. I was shocked to see he's still only 29 aswell so he still has a few more years in him yet.
Hes only a year older than maguire lol
I think at this stage he'll never play a full season, but he'd be perfect to rotate in and out to keep everyone fresh.
Games where it's not a knockout or the top 3 where you don't need to risk your first choice - he could comfortably play in and do well.
His header gifted wolves a goal. You get taught not to head the ball to the edge of your own box at school. Its an error that cost united a point, but yeah, he played great.
Imagine thinking Wolves can defeat someone with more than 1 goal difference. Wolves are defined by 1-0 wins.
@@JamesHussain82 look at that play and tell him where else he can head the ball to somewhat safety? Lol come on man either way someone should’ve easily closed Moutinho down, just a great strike and unlucky for Yanited (City fan)
A video on PH Ganso would be great. For the newer generation who might’ve not heard about him…he was Neymar’s teammate at Santos who apparently had an even higher ceiling than him.
Football iconic made vid on him
Higher ceiling? The man was the Brazilian riquelme, not suitable for elite football
@@EugenesBackpack Right..so you’re trying to say Riquelme wasn’t suitable for elite football? The same Riquelme who carried Villarreal and made Argentina tick in the 2006 WC? I disagree mate.
Correction it’s modern football, not elite football.
There’s no natural number 10 position anymore.
@@miz5138 he is not going to work in a team like Liverpool or man city.
The latest twist to this saga is he's turned down a loan move to Bordeaux
The goat
He's better than maguire so he knows he has a shot at still playing. I don't understand why people make this point
@@EugenesBackpack Bad joke mate
Turned it down because he was not happy with the playing time promised. Why would he go all the way to France if the team isn't offering positive talks. Easy to say as an outsider that he should go but we have to remember players are human beings too and moving from one to another for a job you aren't sure about isn't ideal. Lot of personal things go into these moves it's not just the player moving there.
@@aakarmamtora3470 it's not a joke, its pretty obvious rangnick is open to bencing anyone. Maguire has his days counted
"apart from my mum and dad, who else would turn up?"
that broke my heart :(
I remember Jones marking prime Cristiano Ronaldo out of a Champions League game. Possibly his best performance.
Ronaldo scored in that game
@@Skywalker156 I’ve just watched the goal. Ronaldo scored a backpost header, getting in between Evans and Evra and meeting a cross.
That wasn’t Phil Jones zone or fault. He was solid that game.
@@bengreening9387My exact point! CR7 wouldn't have been able to do this if Jones marked him out of the game.....No criticism against Jones he had a good game but you can't say he marked CR7 out of the game.....
@@Skywalker156 Jones did his job. Once ronaldo is in the box, then it’s down to the defenders behind him. Jones was played in front of a back 4 to screen Ronaldo that game.
@@bengreening9387 for sure Jones did he's job, as I said he had a good game. However doing a good job is 1 thing, marking CR7 out of the game is another. To summarise you can't claim 2 mark someone out of the game if that someone scored!
I remember being at OT when we hammered Blackburn 7-1. He was their standout player, which is mad considering the scoreline and the position he played, and I when we signed him I was absolutely buzzing. But of course the career hasnt gone the way anyone thought.
1 thing I do have issue with though is that comment from Fergie, saying he can be the best player we've had. That never helped Jones, imagine having to then live up to that. The greatest manager on his last ever game saying that about you. Not to mention the emphasis on expectation the fans then have of you.Feel for him, as its always a case of what could have been, though if reports are anything to go by, he's rejected numerous loan moves this last couple of windows. You can only help someone so much
Wow I never knew how bad his injury record was until now. I’ll be it, like many others I knew him from the jokes and the memes and I find the testimonial part sad considering how much of a scapegoat he was made due to the hype that surrounded him in his youth and his misfortune.
So you see memes and just take them as fact? You don't look information up?
He broke record after record like they were bones!
Aw that's actually heartbreaking about the testimonial 😥
1:21 It’s Vidic not Matic
I remember starting watching football around 2012. And Man Utd had Smalling, Evans, Jones as potential replacements for Vidic (not Matic :P) and Ferdinand. Jones always looked the best to me and in a good team around him and if injuries wouldn't have hampered him, he really would have been great. His other skills would have overshadowed the occasional mistake.
Loved the recent applause he got while heading to the tunnel.
He really should have a testimonial with some retired legends invited to play too. If I were in England, I would definitely turn up for it.
I don’t think Jones is short for a CB also, it was Vidic not Matic
It brought tears to my eye when you said "Who else would come?"
No one deserves the treatment he gets. No one.
Can still remember he was starting to shine back in 17/18 with Eric Bailey. But then, again the injury!
Apart from my Mum and Dad who else would show up...That really hit a nail in the heart
I really wanna see him succeed. Having a whole nation turn in a instant is probably heavy on the head. And Phil I’d show up to the Testimonial even as a City fan 🤞
The video says 1:17 Man United were playing at centre back, "Rio Ferdinand and Nemanja Matic". But do you mean Nemanja Vidić?
thought I was the only one who noticed
No. No. They don't. Why would they say Nemanja Matic if they meant Vidic? It'd be just as easy to say Vidic. Fool.
@@adamdickinson2894 Are you dense?
@@adamdickinson2894 😂🤣
@@adamdickinson2894 because Matic wasn't in his 30s in 2011. Fool.
I still love Jonesy's candid moments caught on camera ❤️
The face that launched a thousand ships ❤️
As a City fan who's always mocked Jones, I now feel sorry for him. He's a human being after all and what should've been a glorious career has been blighted by injuries and the coincidence of City being top dogs in Manchester and England. Good luck Phil.
Manchester City are not top dogs
@@ybarekghirmay7622 yes we are lad, Champions and the most successful dominant English club for the last decade.
@@karlos55555 sorry to burst your bubbles but Chelsea are the best team in England in the past decade. Maybe you were 6 when Ferguson retired and only got into Football this year, yet you should realize that a team that can’t win a CL title shouldn’t consider themselves the best team.
@@bayasgalantsogtgerel3346 f
Without the whole memes the whole story really seems similar to Badstuber at Bayern Munich. Highly praised by Guardiola "best player I ever trained" and remarkable defender especially at the start of the 2010's and then just getting injury after injury. Really sad because you always wonder what could have been.
There are many occasions of this, including Theo Walcott, Daniel Sturridge, Danny Welbeck, etc.
@@kohikappuSturridge isn't at the same level and Theo got insane amounts of time on the pitch. Welbeck's problem is that he was playing when Rooney was
Wonderfully talented footballer filled with passion and desire let down by his body and the media.
Phil Jones is really good on his day. Sadly he's just as injury prone as Eric Bailly. He got the potential to even be better than Rio as he learned from him, but sadly because of injuries, it hampered his development. What could have been.
Worse than Bailly imo for injuries. Bailly has been fit for a good period of time at the club but has been overlooked by Ole and Jose at times needlessly despite his good qualities. With some good quality coaching and instructions from a manager and coaching staff, there’s a really good player in Bailly. I hope he shows this when he leaves this summer. Thinking about Jones makes me feel extremely sad and upset. I remember reading the article about him saying why he turned down a testimonial and it hits different. The guy tried so hard to fulfil all the expectations on him and he had himself but it didn’t happen for him. How low must you feel to think only your parents would turn out for your 10th at a club like United? Really sad.
Great attitude
Great defender
Good versatility
Okay on the ball when in the groove of things
Absolutely horrendous availability
Without the last 1, the following 4 are useless.
This reminds me of the Sammy McIlroy story. When he arrived at United from Northern Ireland in 1969 he was hailed by some as the new George Best, and although he went on to play over 300 games for United and won an FA Cup winners medal, he was clearly never going to reach the legendary status that Georgie had. He also signed at a time when many of the European Cup winning team were coming to the end of their career. He himself was Matt Busby's last signing. What was to follow were United's barren years as well as a relegation to Division Two (now the Championship).
I dare say that every club has similar stories. Peter Marinello at Arsenal for example.
My home town team Portsmouth bought Marinello from Arsenal for £100K, big money in those days. He was a sad disappointment and very rarely seemed to live up to his promise. It doesn't look as if his career at other clubs was any more distinguished.
I've always seen jones as a player who gave it all to defend, that was always when mu needed him, even though he is at his best, an ok defender for a club as big as united. I hope he stays at a place were he can be valued and respected
I remember watching him playing for england vs spain in a friendly. Put a motm performance keep prime iniesta and xavi at bay. What could have been if not for injuries
Sad
I mean he pocketed prime Ronaldo so hard it was like he wasn't even there, did the same to Drogba on his debut for Blackburn. People don't understand just how good he was
I think people forget that he was a HIGHLY rated prospect when he first came to United and showed a lot of promise during his early days at United. Injuries ruined him, plain and simple.
I find it absolutely heartbreaking at the fact he thinks nobody would go to his testimonial.. as a season ticket holder at old Trafford I can confirm there would be over 75,000 of us there saying goodbye. Quality player and the fact he managed to not bite at the memes/trolling and kept his cool from rival fans is just a testament to what kind of man he actually is off the field. Serenading him with chants for his first game back after two years against wolves was one of my highlights of the season!
Even as a Liverpool I feel for him. Hope he moves on and get his career back on track to at least championship level
i have a different believe i think he had a condition that didnt allow him to play football some health issues. thats why everyone respected him in the club and cheered him on
So true, nemanja Matic really was in his 30’s in 2011, it’s amazing how he went on to have a career spanning a further decade since
We, Manutd fans, have been very harsh on him. He deserves our respect. You deserve our respect, Phil.
What? We were never harsh on him. We were fed up of rival fans calling us meme fc and making fun of our every player like lingard, Luke shaw, Lukaku, Felliani, Fred.
@@ZexaXIII lol,man u fans are always harsh on their players, and make a meme out of them, example mcfred,lingardinho,
Phil Jones
Honours
Premier League: 2012-13.
FA Cup: 2015-16.
FA Community Shield: 2011, 2013.
UEFA Europa League: 2016-17.
Tifo, really glad you's did the section on Duncan Edwards. Always makes me slightly emotional. What a legend
Thank you for making this video. I hope people can respect Phil Jones more of what he’s been through after seeing this. It’s so sad that such a promising career has been blighted with injury and how he is remembered from memes and jokes. The testimonial part is heartbreaking.
Absolutely insane Fergie had said that about him, knew he was talented back then but wow…
I remember that, in that summer of 2011, it was between Jones and Varane on who United would get... And I remember being happy that it was Jones. Even though Varane's potential was evident, Jones was already PL caliber. Such a shame what happened, both for him and the club.
The man. The myth. The legend.
Phil Jonesta.
'Apart from my mum and dad, who else would show up?' 😢 That was heartbreaking to read!
I don't really follow football too closely, but everytime I see Phil Jones, he's usually giving it his all. There was a game where he was throwing his body on the ground to block the ball with his face, and the comments were mocking him.
That's actually really sad about his testimonial as well.
Even as a Liverpool fan, oof that last line about the 10 year testimonial from Jones.... That's actually really heartbreaking from a professional player. Hope he gets a good run for the last of his contract and actually the best regards for him on his professional career for what could be his final season at probably his dream club.
I always thought he was underrated and superior to their other overhyped defenders over the years such as smalling, rojo, mcnair, or evans. all of them came and went but jones is still there. and I have a lot of respect for manu for sticking with a player who has been very unlucky with injuries instead of leaving him to his own fate like many other clubs would've done
Ey put some respect on Evans and Smalling 😂
To be honest Phil Jones one match performance is still better than the whole season of Maguire on the pitch.
I would love to see a Maguire and Phil Jones partnership in that Man Utd Team... That will be epic!
Honestly, Phil Jones is atleast as good, if not better than Harry Maguire in most of his Man Utd career. What a waste of talent, and I blame all the post-Ferguson era managers.
Phil Jones , painful story
I always liked him, even if he didnt play the best he always gave his heart for the club on the pitch, he always did his best and tried to do what he can, he was and is a good sport I have only respect for him.
6:10 really almost made me cry.
6:02 that's heartbreaking..
This is a sad story...but here, people are more interested in a small mistake in the video...
I still remember whenever Ferdinand and Vidic were not playing I would easily rely on Jones. And sometimes even Evans. Memes aside, he is a good player I don't know why they make fun of his ability. Those old days were gold.
Matic*
Phil Jones, regardless of everything that's happened over the years, is a legend. That will never, ever, change.
This is why confidence is such a major influence in a player's career trajectory. I really think had he stayed at Blackburn OR gone to a United squad that wasn't about to lose their best ever manager, he would've had a steadier career. Dude had so much natural talent, it's really a shame.
If Jones had done a Rudiger and worn a face mask for half his games he would probably be remembered more fondly. It’s incredible how much his silly facial expressions have defined him.
That mask gave rudiger super powers
What you are doing is a bit akin to victim blaming. Wouldnt the best solution be to be a decent human and not bully another person. Am sure a lot of people exist in the wprld and am sure they dont go around hiding their face. Besides it breeds more insecurity. What happens when he shows his face after hiding it for so long? Wouldnt people bully him again? Wouldnt he himself be insecure about his appearance?
@@LeMagnifiquePetiteEspirit I think he's just highlighting the undue influence his facial expressions have had on his public persona, rather than making a serious point
@@mattbutler5372 that’s exactly it mate. Bloke above is a complete idiot for thinking otherwise. Phil Jones career has been impacted as much by how memed he was as his injuries.
I was one of the fans that wanted Phil Jones to succeed at Manchester United but injuries ruined him. Then the memes came and the jokes and him turning down his testimonial because the fans made him a joke. If weren't for injuries then he would have been one of the greatest defenders of his generation.
One of the most pleasent voiceovers on youtube
Jones was one of my favourite Man United player then
His fantastic performance against Bolton in 2011 on a 5-0 win away from home always been in my mind.
Yeah, ok we all know it is meant to be Vidic not Matic. Everyone chill out.
at his fit health, Jones is better than Maguire and that's not even a doubt.
Also is my grandma
Correction: Maguire at Man Utd.
He was nice with Leicester and England. I don't think his bad performance is even his fault.
@@shambhav9534 id love to know who's fault it is, you seem to really know your football.
@@JamesHussain82 I don't know. He just plays bad for Utd. I'd blame the manager. It's similar to Pogba. Pogba does get the blame for "not adapting" but mostly the manager gets blamed. I say something similar for Maguire. It's his responsibility to play good in whatever circumstance but he didn't chose to be in the circumstance.
@@shambhav9534 he signed the contract to enter into this circumstance. Pogba has had 4 or 5 managers, its him, not them.
The man is a legend regardless, the hilarious moments he produced will never be forgotten.
Hey Tifo,I love your content and hope you guys have an amazing Day. Just a fan request, if you haven't, could you do a video about Claudio Marchisios career? He was so underrated.
Oh boy this'll be good
Everyone thought Jones was a bad defender.
Then Came Maguire.
You always learn something new on this channel. I always thought he was called Nemanja Vidic!
Never thought I'd see my home-town team Tranmere Rovers feature in one of Tifo's videos!
Ubi Fides Ibi Lux et Robur!!
And Phil Jones is linked to West Brom again
He have good defending skills and put his body on the line every time he plays but shame he is injury prone
I remember his first two seasons when I would see him run with the ball from defence all the way to the box and it was looking so natural and almost effortless. He wasn't perfect by any means, he seemed unpolished, erratic, even all over the place sometimes but it was so exciting seeing his commitment and physicality. I always assumed that Fergie, Rio and Nemanja would help him eliminate his flaws and honestly thought at the time that his potential is boundless. But then Fergie left. Then Rio left. Nemanja too. Then the injuries came and with every one he looked less and less the player who he could have been.
I would lie if I said I never wanted him out of the club, because there were times when I did. In hindsight, I know that it was not his fault. And seeing him coming back against Wolves, he seemed so assured, solid. It was like seeing another player entirely. He was the only light in the darkness of that dismal team performance.
I know I'm basing this on one game only, but if he brings his fitness up to par and his injury bad luck finally deserts him, I believe he still has a lot to offer to the club. I was actually a bit relieved when he refused going to Bordeaux on loan and hope he will kick on.
This is almost certainly the best channel on CZcams.
The Wasted Career of Mason Greenwood
His coaches told him he could become the next Ryan Giggs. Too bad he copied Giggs off the field as well.
@@stevendchu not really something to joke about mate
That's his own fault.
Yep, he needs to leave asap. However promising Man Utd may look, all is a lie. It feels like Man Utd is a perpetual sine wave which never goes above 1 to get success. I've just given up on cheering Man Utd because it leads to nothing. They look promising and die off, promising, die off, promising, die off. It's like an endless TV show. There are sad an happy moments and it never progresses into something more. I'd be back into football in Man Utd were to get relegated. That's fine for me. I just can't this limbo of cycling from 2nd in the PL to 6th and over and over again.
Good Video, but you missed the irony, Ferguson had time to lambast Jordan Henderson for having a gait prone to injury. Remember Jordan was bought in the same window as Jones. It’s a pity so few pickup on the legend that is Ferguson and the utter tribe he so often spouted.
I remember when United signed him, I was jealous at the time. Liverpool fan.
I remember being so envious of united when they signed jones and smelling, and had Jonny Evan's.
Nemanja Vidic not Nemanja Matic
Matic, you mean vidic. Is this channel even credible after that howler.
It really breaks our heart. Still remember his solo run on his debut season. Definitely would have been our captain if injury never hampered him. And if he's injury free, we would never spent money on Harry though
As a Liverpool fan I knew about his injuries and his potential and it actually made me sad to see what he went through. I never trolled him and didn’t like the memes that constantly were published of him. He was a great prospect, it’s was just injuries that did him in. One thing you can say about him was he gave his all.
Nemanja vidic *
Better than Harry Maguire
Not a man u fan but Fingers crossed that he gets to enjoy some consistent playing time ahead. He's clearly gifted. Go Phil
😢he’s so underrated
Jones was targeted by the fans, specifically the ones online. He made mistakes and was a victim of the mismanagement of United both as a club and on the pitch. His career, just like lingard, cleverly, smalling, and welbecks was destroyed by this
We man utd fans tried everything to stop the memes. We were fed up of rival fans calling us meme fc and making fun of our every player like lingard, Luke shaw, Lukaku, Felliani, Fred. In the end we knew that there's no going back once you are a meme so we stopped trying to defend them.
I think this pandemic has taught people the importance of multiple streams of income, unfortunately having a job doesn't mean security rather having different investments is the real deal.
The economic hardship, recession, unemployment and loss of jobs caused by covid 19 pandemic is enough to push people into financial ventures..
Investments are the stepping Stones to success, I wanted to trade shiba but got confused by the fluctuations in price
Wow am so shocked, He's success stories are everywhere 😱.Mr Edward has been my broker for over a year now and he's strategies are really awesome
Good talk! I said that to my friends everyday. Saving is good, but investing is much better, I used to think saving money would save me but NO, saving is just keeping it to spend later.
when you are in this business you should know where to invest, I see a lot of people who waste their money in this investment, one should know how it works and where to invest, A good strategy and manager is what you need to make good profits from trading. that's why I strongly recommend
One of my fave players. He gives his 100% every single game.
Fergie made the perfect comparison by using Duncan Edwards. Almost no one can really remember him, majority of fans including myself have never seen him play, and the true potential of his talent is (unfortunately) mythical. As such, it doesn't actually put Jones under a lot of pressure while still able to hype him up at the same time.
He didn't flop, the English people just over hyped and overrated him just like every other basic English youngster.
weird take. he was ruined by injuries and lack of playing time, and the reduced confidence that came with that
1:20 I didn't realise nemanja matic played under sir alex as a centre half, what a player
yeah I recall the scandinavian united page linked the Jones quote for "besides my mum and dad, who would show up"... it's so sad, I gonna admit, I've had my fair share of laughs from him, but all in good fun, never held it against Jones personally.
He for both the good and the bad, gave everything for the shirt everytime.
Quite honestly, he deserves more from us (the fans) and if I could I would've shown up for a testimonial
Hopefully he will have better future ahead. Best of luck.🙏🙏🙏