UniFi Enterprise Switches - 2.5, 10, & 25 Gbps Connectivity!
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- čas přidán 23. 02. 2022
- Checking out the USW-Enterprise-24-PoE switch and also going over the 4 Enterprise switch models from Ubiquiti. Need some 2.5, 10, or even 25Gbps connectivity? Then check out these Enterprise switch models!
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USW-Enterprise-8-PoE: store.ui.com/collections/unif...
USW-Enterprise-24-PoE: store.ui.com/collections/unif...
USW-Enterprise-48-PoE: store.ui.com/collections/unif...
USW-EnterpriseXG-24: store.ui.com/collections/unif...
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I wish they would ALL have the layout of the ports like this one, Enterprise or not. Its so much cleaner to install in a rack. If its designed to be in a rack, it should have this layout.
not cleanest in ALL scenarios
@@cdoublejj just 99% of them.
Nice to see them add more switches. Thanks for the update. Will have to buy one to play...er work with.
I recently bought an HP 2530-24 PoE switch and opened it up to clean it up and it has very similar board structure. The board that is on top is for power delivery and injection per port. That is why there is those ICs on the board. The bottom board is the standard motherboard for the switch circuitry
That USW-Enterprise switch looks quite heavy! lol
I really like the idea of the ports being in a row. Instead of a clustered together. Yes its more to manufcturer due to the ports not being an assembled cluster but I bet its a lot easier to manage/maintain cabling...
This had me so excited. Hopefully they'll come out with POE++ soon.
Building a network for a technology center, told the company I wanted the 8 port Enterprise but they got me the older XG 6 Port. But hoping to run the same thing your running on port 24 at 2.5😉
Your lab is impressive. You may have seen (as of this writing) that the Enterprise XG 24 switch recently became available again. My only problem with the SPF28+ switching is limited, only the 28 port aggregate pro switch has the ability to pair at 25 GBe. I believe Ubiquiti had a previous early access device that was aggregating some ridiculous 48x SFP28+ but I'm unable to find that in the wild. I believe Synology supports 25 GBe with an OEM Aqauntia/Marvel/Nvidia card, so you might test that way?
Due to all the chatter on my home wifi with the 40+ IoT wifi devices and other various wifi clients I have began deploying U6 Enterprise APs, mostly for the 2.5Gbe backhaul to LAN. My plan is to slowly begin to upgrade my switches that run these APs with Enterprise 8 PoE and Enterprise 24 PoE switches to not only bump up the backhaul on the APs but to also provide for aggregated 10Gbe links to my aggregation switch. I know this seems a bit overkill for a home network, but it just seems like with all the wifi devices and having 2 home offices that this type of setup is becoming more common.
We use the xg’s and aggregation switches as our new core network, as well as a mix of both at tor level
I wish i could get one. Love the vids.
Have recently installed 24 of these in my School network, they work great. Only gripe I have is that I cant buy the USW Enterprise XG 24 with 25G SFP28 ports in Australia. Would love it if you could source them for me.
Thanks, my first switch to unifi gear and I'm running this from my home office with the kit inside my actual room. Did not expect this to be so loud. Can these fans be changed for quiet ones? Not an issue for long term as I'm moving soon and this will go into its own rack. but man, going from a fanless switch to this was an ear opener.
What are these "easty mount" screws you are using for your rack? and will they also be strong enough for servers?
thanx for the great video. have question though.
you said layer 3 switch is doing the rauting. how is it with the firewall rules you set in udm pro? thanks for your support
"Unknown mystery..." Hah hah -- yes, I'd like that 6E access point to connect to my 2.5G switch as well, and I wish I knew how y'all got your hands on it, because I refreshed my browser multiple times a day for a couple of months, and I never saw it in anything other than "sold out" status :sigh:
Is it possible to run iperf tests to see the line rate of the 10G ports?
With the limited Layer 3 routing, does this switch obey firewall rules for traffic between VLANs? If I have an IoT VLAN that only allows access to Home Assistant and internet while blocking initiating a connection with any other VLAN, will this switch also obey those rules or would it allow traffic to freely move between VLANs? If it doesn't obey those rules, can the Layer 3 routing in it be disabled?
I own this enterprise PoE 24, have it hooked up and working but without any setup yet. I also have the enterprise Xg 24, also just plugged, connected and operating without any setup. I am waiting to order a UDM SE. I know I can setup without UDM, but I want a clean initial setup. Omg, is there any idea when the UDM SE will be available in Canada? Awesome content! Thanks for doing these!
I would love to see more 2.5G switches from ubiquity , this is a great switch but with a high price tag, hopefully that will change or a smaller 16 port version will come out, also do not understand why you still deliver 1g ports on same switch make it all 2.5g
A year later, how is it with the L3 switching capability, any new firmware updates that improved this?
I have been watching everything I can trying to figure out what I need. My internet provider recently went to 5GB internet at the home. I instantly upgraded but then realized none of my equipment is even fast enough to get those speeds to my computers. I love the UI products so thanks for what you are doing helping explain this to someone brand new to upgrading my network to multi gig.
wtf. Sick speed
I had a few years of 10gb. The highest speed I saw any one server was Netflix at 3.5gb. My takeaway was that you almost never saturate a multi-gig connection... but the flip side is more interesting... You never have the network as a bottleneck (eg. start a large file transfer and your conference call drops out)
AT&T fiber? They just rolled out 2 and 5 gb plans in my area as well, and I was initially tempted to upgrade from the 1 gb plan I'm currently on, but literally nothing in my home network could take advantage of those speeds at this point, and it would cost a few thousand dollars to upgrade things in order to take advantage of the higher speeds.
While the nerd in me is tempted, the cost/benefit equation just doesn't work out in favor of doing so at this point.
@@aaronboggs5799 My cost to be at 10gb wasn't high... Here's some learnings I had:
-Look for NICs on eBay
-switches from mikrotik (220$ for 8 ports)
-Dont fear SFP+ or rj45-sfp+ adapters
-Not everything has to be at that speed (router, storage, virtualization, power workstations... Other stuff can be 100/1000 or wifi)
-multi-gig home brew pfsense box is not much more than 1gb
But
- once you get to 1gb for home, latency is more interesting to chase than bandwidth
-if I had to choose between multigig wan (assume the switch and router have multigig connection) and LAN .... LAN every time
-beware ISP topology that has shared bandwidth eg 10g Pon)... It might saw multi-gig but you might share that with everyone else on that fibre
What’s the noise/sound level with those fans?
Have you tried the new wifiman mapping tool yet? I played with it a bit but it kept losing track of where I was in relation to where I have been abd jumps me all ove the place.
Your looking for a lil shock or frying the board with all that touchy touchy :)
Found your other video where you changed the fans on another switch have you done the same for this one>?
I noticed in Unifi network my USW-24 POE gen2 shows the wrong devices connected to wireless uplink ports.
Unsure why that is but everything else is fine
I've had Ubiquiti in my home lab for 13 months and so far, things have been mostly good. I have the UDM-Pro, the USW-24 Pro and the Aggregate switch. If I was doing this all over again, I'd probably take the UDM SE but even as a PoE device, it's PoE ports aren't 2.5gb and I'm looking squarely at that new Wifi 6 Enterprise to upgrade the home Wifi with Wifi 6e. The problem is that nothing in my rack does PoE since I didn't need it last year and that new 8 port Enterprise switch which is 2.5gb PoE is almost double the price of my Aggregate switch. Yikes.
Yeah we need a new UDM already with 2.5gb ports PoE. Buying an $800 switch to get 2.5gb ports on a rack mount is crazy.
Is it possible now to have the Enterprise switch handle routing while blocking/limiting inter-VLAN routing (like what was done on your UDM setup video)?
Hmm that mystery device uses PoE, the Wifi 6 Enterprise AP by chance?
@ CROSSTALK SOLUTIONS I just bought a audio codes mp-114 4fxo port gateway and I don’t know how to configure it to connect to freepbx
I'll get excited about Ubiquiti switches when they start offering full power POE+ on all copper ports and more than a 1 year warranty.
All of their PoE switches are at least PoE+ on all ports.
They don't have any switches with a full power budget for all ports is what I mean. Sure they can do POE+ on all ports, but you can't run PoE devices on every port at the same time.
My 24 port XG switch should be here on monday. Gonna use it for running 10 GBe to the video editors at my company. I'll let you know how it works :)
How is it working so far?
will this speed up my playback on my cameras? have uncr pro and about 50-60 cameras
I have a 16 port switch and a UDM Pro. I would have liked it if the port rows on both the UDM Pro and switch were flat and not stacked one row above another. And in both cases, the switch ports are on the right. If the UDM had its ports flat on the right, and the 16 port switch had its ports flat on the left, that would make for much cleaner patching between device and patch panel.
I am still waiting for the doorbell pro to be available.
it's not like we've been asking for dynamic layer 3 routing on the Edgeswitch line for at least 7 years or more as well... Anyway, we still cannot consider for now this enterprise line as intended for core networking.
I want to see your "secret" 6E AP though lol
I know these are enterprise equipment, but dang those prices. O.O
I was hoping they would be cheap enough i could replace my network with these bad bois, but it looks like I'll be waiting until the prices come down or wait until i can get them second hand from ebay for a lower price! ;)
All in all, not too shabby of equipment.
I'm sure a business would have no problem with these prices, and as long as they are stable, I'm sure they would love to have these.
Can this support third party router and access points? Without needing any configurations?
It seems you were struggling a little on the Layer 3 situation. Frankly, the UI suite should be described as providing L3 features not L3 "capabilities". Some significant other features were purposely stripped out but which would make them viable as enterprise devices.
another reason i like netgear, they advertised my switch as layer 2+ ...simple...
I work in large enterprise networks for an out sourcing company. I just can't see unifi ever coming close to competing with the current offerings. That said, good one, looks like a cool switch, there's probably a middle ground customer for it.
Yes the unifi software has always been a bit dicky and the feature set is limited. But if you just want simple L2 or limited L3, then these are quite fine.
It doesn't make sense if you need to deploy many 100s or 1000s of access switches, need to pick up trends on SFP module failures or such. Any basics like EIGRP or more modern stuff are also amiss.
Yet, if you, say, just need to get faster client networking to 100-1000 users, there's this middle ground.
Can you aggregate the SFP28 ports on the Enterprise XG24?
Are they going to release it without PoE. I just want 2.5Gb ports
We're just building a network with lots of them. They're really neat, while we DO HATE the fact that there's no version with OOB ports and you can find some limitations in the LCD capabilities for business settings, the overall package is great.
The 8port is pretty overpriced imo, the 48ports are a gift to smaller enterprises.
To clarify, we are building this with a dedicated oob network to cover for provisiong failures and a very different level of core switches. So we use the brains of unifi for things like port profiles and ease of client service quality tracking, but absolutely don't involve the unifi devices in i.e. routing, which is done by switches that have the proper quality and capability to i.e. ensure no-downtime upgrades.
This mix was cheaper and allowed us to have 2.5g and Poe absolutely *everywhere*. Ubiquiti is almost the only vendor to figure out that a 48port 2.5g switch is useful and a 4times more expensive switch with 16*5g plus 32*1g sucks for operability and other concerns.
If the more professional vendors INSIST on offering a worse choice... So be it.
Thanks.
I wish they would bring 2.5g to the consumer products. Hopefully that will happen over time
I actually received my enterprise 24 POE switch today, main reason I got this over the pro was the fact the ports were in one row instead of two rows of 12 haha
Hopefully they will adopt the 24 port layout across all their ranges.
Probably not, it's more expensive to make that way
I have been looking for single 24 ports in a single line rather than a 12 port stack on 12 ports (bad design).
Are those enterprise switches good for hotels?
We know that mystery device already - Unifi 6 Enterprise ;)
what does USW stand for?
hahahahaa, i love the music when pealing of the stickers...hahahahahahaha
Does the Enterprise XG-24 require something like the UDM pro to work?
No. The UDM Pro does feature an integrated UniFI controller though so you do need to run the UniFi controller somewhere if you're not using a UDM device. You can run it on a UBNT Cloud Key, VM, internet hosted VM or as a Docker image. I run my UniFi controller for my switches and WAP's as a Docker image on my UNRAID NAS. I use the linuxserver/unifi-controller image as it's well maintained and I just update it periodically through the UNRAID Docker managment. I use pfSense for a firewall because the UniFi firewall is pretty limited.
@@lordcarnorjax8599 I saw comments on reddit earlier saying that the UDM Pro is required for the XG24. I run pfsense with mikrotik poe switch but looking at the XG24 for all those 10G ports. I got a controller installed on a VM to manage a couple of Unifi APs. Thanks Jax!
Could you include some info on the power budget in your reviews as well please? In my view this is on of the weaknesses of unifi.
Also, how are the noise levels?
Love most things about this switch. Not sure about the pricing though. Really considering moving away from unifi because of it. Ah well, it will be another 18 months before my new home is finished and I will need to make that decision.
Noise levels would be really handy to know.
"Absolutely available now" heh
To use the UWS Enterprise 24 switch at 2.5gbe per connection, I take it you would need a minimum of cat6a? Is that correct?
cat6 would likely have no issues even for 10GbE at short distances
What is the brand and model of the Rack with the LED lights on the sides?
Check it out in my recent Network Rack Build video!
@@CrosstalkSolutions Will go take a look now! Thank you for the videos :)
Great review, thank you! I would skip the 2.5 gig generation, in 3-4 years you'll want 5 or 10 anyways due to data growth
and what then for the coming 4 years.... slow network, the consumer market is also moving to 2.5g, if you want faster now you go to 10g and the new AP has a 2.5g port too.
Love to hear about the noise levels this device produces
1 year later: still waiting to order one.
Man you just had to use sexy music while installing it... now i want one =P. Btw how is the noise?
Give it up Ubiquiti, you can call your toys anything you want but you'll never be anything more then kid stuff. Enterprise switches have TRUE stacking ports - maybe someday you'll attempt at playing with the big boys, until then it's kiddy stuff no matter what the port speeds are.
is Ubiquity doing away with the Edgemax product line
Not that I'm aware of, but it doesn't seem to be getting any love. The ER-X was very popular, and hasn't been available for some time now.
@@CrosstalkSolutions i think they could re-base it on Vyos and start supporting Vyos developing, then implement their own skin on the top, maybe it would help them, since vyatta os, which it was based on is not longer available, and the core team that built vyatta, who were ubiquity staff, left the company. maybe they are facing issues scaling development thats why they are abandoning. the UISP line is not great for ISP, i run an ISP in Kenya.
It’s weird the 24 port switch only has 12 2.5gbps ports yet the 48 port is all 2.5gbps
The 48 port version is probably not going into somebody's home lab unless money is no object. 48 ports of 2.5 gbps guarantees a lot of bandwidth and upgradability for your clients and access points.
I can't justify buying two of those, to replace my USW-24-250Ws, just so my cables look nicer going to my 48-port patch panel.
In my mind just making it faster doesn't make it enterprise grade. Enterprise grade requires: ACL, DHCP, DHCP helpers, the ability to be a default gateway. I also think you need to be able to deploy the switch standalone. You might have an isolated network for compliance reasons.
Also can you stack them?
Nice Switch but as always at UniFi: to expensive and to much power consumption. Here in Germany the power prizes are extremly high so that is a matter
@Crosstalk Solutions Can the SFP port negotiate at 2.5G as well? Or it is only 1G or 10G?
Ubiquiti explicitly calls them SFP+ ports, so unless they're breaking with the corresponding SFF standard, they are backwards compatible with SFP (1 GbE). Aside from that, the transceiver you plug into the interface is responsible for transmission negotiations anyway.
@@tillmannfischer absolutely agree with that, however there are instances where in the port profile you can force the negotiation/transmission rate at 2.5G FDX which is possible with the XG 16 on the SFP+ port, provided that the SFP module plugged in supports multirate. Despite the multirate support on the module side it seems to always favour 10G but falls back to 1G if not possible, it will not step down from 10G to 2.5G and then 1G if all else fails hence on the switch itself you would need to force the specific rate
@@krisenpillay5804 The fallback to 1 GbE is specified in the SFP+ standard. Basically, it's made on purpose for better backwards compatibility with SFP, so that a multi-rate module in an SFP interface doesn't try to fall back to 1 GbE, causing malfunctions due to the interface being incompatible.
@@tillmannfischer Ah ok, that makes sense, thank you for that. However, for multirate spf modules that support 1G, 2.5G, 5G & 10G would it then only purely be determined by what the link rate is on the "other" end? So if the other end if 2..5G then the module would negotiate to that rate etc. assuming that the switch if managed has it's port profile set to auto negotiate? Second scenario in my personl setup atleast, is my service provider sends 2G fiber to my home, I know that the SFP module provide links only at 1G or 2.5G so when connected to the providers router the tests show up to 2G DL speeds and 1G UL however, the UDMPro I use will only negotiate at 1G and only if I force the link rate of the port profile to 1G FDX not auto negotiate (no option of 2.5G on the SFP WAN ports, but 2.5G FDX is an option in the dropdown when creating a non-WAN profile), hence my original question on whether this switch allows 2.5G FDX on SFP like the XG 16. So my question is now as you have helped me better understand is if there is no real effect on the software/switch side on forcing a link speed? Maybe I misunderstood the hardware side of thing. I appreciate your help.
10Gb between Switch and Router means it doesn’t matter if routing goes back to the “router” vs staying on the L3 switches.
Not true, there are situations where L3 would be a benefit over that and 10Gb could be saturated. That’s also not even taking latency into the equation as just having a 10Gb connection isn’t the whole story.
I have a 10 port 10/100/1000 GB/S
2.5 and 5g But is not really Enterprise, maybe prosumer.
100% agree at this point. They only just sorted the L3 DHCP relay which is just amazing that wasn't there from the L3 switch release. UniFi has never been Enterprise ready, prosumer and SMB/SOHO at best.
@@lordcarnorjax8599 Meh, depends on which part of the Unifi family you're looking at. Their Wifi solution has always been pretty much on a level with other manufacturers (unless you want to really go into the heavily specialised stuff). At the same time, even today their USG/UDM lags terribly behind as a firewall/routing solution, even when compared to their own Edgerouter line (which is already kinda limited). It's a really mixed bag, and it feels like Ubiquiti still doesn't really have a coherent plan to ever get the entire Unifi family onto an even playing field in terms of which market they're targeting with each device.
@@tillmannfischer I use Cisco Wi-Fi controllers and AP's at work. The feature set difference between the two is massive. There's basic features that we use on the Cisco gear that UniFi can't do.
@@lordcarnorjax8599 Honestly, there isn't much in Unifi Wifi that I am missing when compared to Cisco. Additionally, the cost difference makes it hard not to forgive certain shortcomings.
Hello
because after 12 plus years unifi is still not mature
Not impressed with anyone's switches. Someone needs to make something modular in 1u and that doesn't cost datacenter money. Would be nice to have like 8 PoE gig ports, 8 plain gig ports, 8 SFP ports, a couple SFP+ ports, and maybe 2 QSFP+ ports. Cheapest solution now is to have a switch for each kind of port.
What you describe would be at home in an aggregation switch (especially the QSFP+ ports), which would be kinda dumb to combine with GbE ports. You basically want three devices rolled into one, and that's not what enterprise switches from any brand are made to do.
@@tillmannfischer Companies make modular switches. Problem is they take up huge amounts of rack space because each module still has a crap load of ports and they cost too much. I have one client that would fees everything at 100 gbps. I have a single client that needs 10 gbps SFP+. I have several clients that need gig SFP. I have a bunch of things that need plain gig ethernet, and then I have some things that need PoE. I shouldn't have a to buy a switch for each thing.
can the USW-Aggregation be used as a regular 'cheap' 10gig switch?
Yes. Many use it that way including myself. And a 10gb copper connection is as easy as a proper transceiver.