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  • čas přidán 29. 06. 2024
  • In this video I share the reasons why i left my career as a BIM engineer and how I managed to maneuver to a different path in life.
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    Trey
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  • @simonbrodeur7516
    @simonbrodeur7516 Před rokem +33

    This is certainly one of the best videos on BIM I ever encountered. I have been in BIM for almost 10 years. You are right on with your perspective on being into construction knowledge rather than just software. Smart decision.

    • @crazygermanviper
      @crazygermanviper Před 7 měsíci +2

      In the end, the people who are on the construction sites should make descisions on BIM, not the people who are never on construction sites.

  • @AussieBIMGuru
    @AussieBIMGuru Před rokem +8

    Great video Trey! To some degree I sidestepped BIM into computation recently (whilst still lending towards BIM goals/workflows), and can certainly relate to much of what you share here. The industry is vast and there's a lot of opportunities out there, some less close to BIM than others, but all very important to the bigger picture.
    Distance from site/trade is a massive issue, and I see so many grads thrown behind computer screens whilst onsite team members either don't understand how technical delivery works, or can't communicate well with the delivery team. So much brain drain and data loss in between this. I'm genuinely concerned that we're raising a new generation into the industry that will have very little construction experience, and it may drag down the architecture/engineering profession for a long time.

    • @TreyTan
      @TreyTan  Před rokem +2

      Totally agree with you! This industry should be deemed more seriously (since we are dealing with massive buildings that could potentially change a city's landscape). Instead, we are bombarded by errors in the field and poor workmanship which leads to rework and higher cost of development. I'm glad you found your passion in BIM computation (I've tried that before and did not make it out the other end with dynamo and python scripts). However, it's not for everyone. Definitely a great skill to have which pays handsomely.

    • @nicholastsagkos7063
      @nicholastsagkos7063 Před rokem +1

      @@TreyTan Definitely not for everyone, some people are good in scripting, some others not, not everything is for everyone, i just love drafting and modelling, i'm happy with that, if i wanted to do programming i would be a programmer.

    • @elcapitan6126
      @elcapitan6126 Před 3 měsíci +1

      it's interesting because in software engineering, the same issues arise where everyone seeks to "know" all the methodologies and processes academically but fewer and fewer software engineers actually have the experience and hence real world skill of building out applications, especially from start to finish (the last 10% of most projects is where the hard graft kicks in, polishing things up making it user friendly handling special cases and less common errors, documenting and developing training material, even marketing). we educate people to know "about" the thing without actually doing the thing. it's like if a driving school was all analysis of how driving works, without putting people in the drivers seat and getting them to learn first hand. there's a place for theory and analysis but it's simply not enough and can be worse than useless when applied from a place of inexperience

    • @AussieBIMGuru
      @AussieBIMGuru Před 3 měsíci

      @@elcapitan6126 I blame it on a decline in competent leaders and managers, juniors not being given good/useful goals and pathways generally. They end up seeking them out on the socials and finding snake-oil salesman who encourage the 'learn all the stuff' approach. Certificates vs applied knowledge etc.

  • @whyanimal2482
    @whyanimal2482 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Damn thank you for the video!
    Right now i am in my second year studying civil engineer, ur video really gives me perspectives👌

  • @johnjaelbarniso9866
    @johnjaelbarniso9866 Před 2 lety +16

    For my Building Information Modeling subject as Civil Engineering student here in the Philippines I discovered your channel, then start binge watching. Til' I came to this video. It's pretty sad, while I'm building my interest with your track I've seen this unfortunately. Anyways, thank you for the information and knowledges, I will still continue following you, there's more than with your career I am fascinated but also your personality. Aja

    • @TreyTan
      @TreyTan  Před 2 lety +6

      Don’t be sad brother, I’ll continue posting about BIM and find experts who can educate about this subject. Thank you for the support John, it’s comments like these that keeps me motivated. And all the best with school man! I hope you’ll find your way into becoming a BIM engineer :)

    • @johnjaelbarniso9866
      @johnjaelbarniso9866 Před 2 lety +1

      @@TreyTan Looking forward Sir! :)

    • @pierrefontecha
      @pierrefontecha Před rokem +1

      working in BIM for several years, I think you should stick thru the BIM portion as it becomes more important in many engineering/architectural firms and the money it can make for u. It separates u from being JUSt aN EngineEr.

  • @mariamahmad6972
    @mariamahmad6972 Před 2 lety +3

    I enjoy this content, keep us updated its very helpful! One day you will build your own establishment 🤞

    • @TreyTan
      @TreyTan  Před 2 lety +1

      thank you so much Mariam! Your comment keeps me motivated! 🙌🏻

  • @dailyinsprirations
    @dailyinsprirations Před 2 lety +20

    Thank you for your helpful videos! Hopefully BIM will be something for me, I’m graduating in 4 months and I’m very stressed about looking for a BIM job, since I’m studying architecture and I think I’m the only one in my class who is interested in using Revit..

    • @TreyTan
      @TreyTan  Před 2 lety +2

      That’s awesome Tronie! I’m glad you’re interested in using Revit. A lot of people quit architecture halfway but the fact that you’re just 4 months away from graduating says a lot about your passion. I hope you stick to what you truly enjoy, whether it’s BIM or design or something else. All the best!

    • @TreyTan
      @TreyTan  Před 2 lety +1

      @Jamaal Miah I feel you Jamaal! You gotta have some grit and perseverance in order to get by doing BIM. Great job for making this far 👍🏻

  • @nicholastsagkos7063
    @nicholastsagkos7063 Před rokem +22

    I'm a CAD technician with BEng. and i'm working in London UK, in structural engineering firms, for 6 years, i love what i'm doing, in deadlines the stress can kill you, some times it's hard to cope with it, but i love what i'm doing, working in 3D is fun, it does look like gaming a bit, and drafting is mesmerising, some times i get into trance just by drafting, it's very important to love what you do and do what you love, as long as you have this secret ingredient then your life will be happier.

    • @OURGROUP_media
      @OURGROUP_media Před rokem

      Cool

    • @OURGROUP_media
      @OURGROUP_media Před rokem

      Heey sir i have a question can you help me or suggest me
      Im passed Draughtsman civil engineering before 2 years back and I completed CAD software from a institute and worked as a site supervisor in a House project, i wish to move some computer related works means indoor work , i like to do calculation and i like to do works in computers, can u suggest me a future platform for a good Salry nd comfort

    • @OURGROUP_media
      @OURGROUP_media Před rokem

      I just researched and looking to learn REVIT everybody suggesting me for that they are saying Revit is future and go for REVIT DESIGNING but i like to do calculation and well skilled using computers

    • @nicholastsagkos7063
      @nicholastsagkos7063 Před rokem

      @@OURGROUP_media sorry, i'm not sure what your question is, in my understanding you're exploring your professional options, maybe try interior design or quantity surveyor?

    • @mahaveermohanty366
      @mahaveermohanty366 Před rokem

      Hi nicholas may I know how can i work in UK as a revit technician as I have 1 year of experience in the same and a Btech degree fulltime it will be so kind of you if you can help me in this please

  • @royalsprite189
    @royalsprite189 Před rokem +66

    For me the best way to be a BIM engineer is to go through field first, be a site engr. Have an experienc. be a subcon, go to small scale then be a BIM engineer so you can see how to design and the sequence of operation in the construction site.

    • @TreyTan
      @TreyTan  Před rokem +8

      This is awesome! Thanks for sharing! 100% on point.

    • @royalsprite189
      @royalsprite189 Před rokem

      @@TreyTan Thanks

    • @soulyapp
      @soulyapp Před rokem

      Wonderful pla. I took a similar path, read my comment above. I also have time for my gaming channel😆

    • @Tony-oc7yf
      @Tony-oc7yf Před rokem +1

      Well, I had worked in high rise projects, then worked as a subcontractor in a supermarket project, then I joined a small company built family houses and I have been learning and using Revit for a long time. Now no company accept me when I apply for a BIM modeler position because they prefer freshers. Ironic.

    • @Randomkloud
      @Randomkloud Před 11 měsíci +2

      ​@@Tony-oc7yfthey don't wanna pay for your experience

  • @frankd.3035
    @frankd.3035 Před 11 měsíci

    honest and inspiring. thank you.

  • @beckerth
    @beckerth Před 6 měsíci

    Super honest. Thank you!

  • @johannahool9545
    @johannahool9545 Před 2 lety +22

    I’ve been doing BIM for almost 10 years now. It’s not what I wanted to do but I also thought that maybe it would be fun and feel like playing a video game. It’s not. Not at all 😞. Good luck to everyone out there that is pursuing this career. I hope it will be a good fit for you

    • @TreyTan
      @TreyTan  Před 2 lety +2

      Well said. Initially I also had that thought but once you start doing it for a living it’s a whole different story haha. All the best to you Johanna! I hope you find your IKIGAI one day :)

    • @pierrefontecha
      @pierrefontecha Před rokem

      well, it kinda is when you do clash detection meetings with the construction avatar. #Gravity

    • @okitasougo8265
      @okitasougo8265 Před 3 měsíci

      Hey can I connect with you on linkdin?

  • @clordphoto
    @clordphoto Před 2 lety +15

    Thanks for the heads up. I spent 12 years on the MEP Engineering side using Revit as a drafter/designer. I burned out on Mechanical Design and just accepted a position as a VDC Engineer. I love working with the models and data. So I think this might be great!

    • @TreyTan
      @TreyTan  Před rokem +1

      I'm glad you enjoy what you do. All the best Chris!

    • @AslamShaikh_555
      @AslamShaikh_555 Před 10 měsíci

      What's a VDC engineer and what you mean when you said you burned out on mechanical design? Can you please elaborate. Am a fresher in MEP design field working in Revit.

    • @clordphoto
      @clordphoto Před 10 měsíci

      @@AslamShaikh_555 After a year of reflection, I was actually burned out from the work environment and and issues with one other employee not having been fixed when I brought up issues to my managers, not the job. The VDC engineer position, in this case, was to make engineered designs constructable and prefabrication ready among other tasks to benefit the contractors and other stake holders/owners. I sadly never made it to the VDC position. But the desire is still there.

    • @HawkGTboy
      @HawkGTboy Před 7 měsíci

      I've been considering a similar jump. I've been a CAD/Revit designer for 23 years, doing HVAC and plumbing design. I'm sick of it. How do you like VDC?

    • @clordphoto
      @clordphoto Před 7 měsíci +1

      ​@@HawkGTboy That is what I had been doing also up until I took the leap of faith out of the AEC world. The job I had lined up did not pan out so I am still doing other things as of now, but I am hopeful. The few I knew that had been doing VDC work never wanted to go back to the other side so I imagine it can be highly worth it for someone like us.

  • @kalsonkhl2306
    @kalsonkhl2306 Před 10 měsíci +3

    I am BIM coordinator/engineer around 3 yrs In Hong Kong, before I was a designer on interior & landscape feild , I am very agree with your opinion.
    Also I feel about that in this feild , I just learn about the software , BIM strandard , BIM use etc, A lot of not interested in things.

  • @COVEtheWORLD
    @COVEtheWORLD Před 27 dny

    Great content. You're not alone. I realised BIM was about peoples development 3 years in about 20years ago after graduation. Keeping people experienced with real world practicality is a real important part of being relevant proffessional because we can redesign the BIM modelling processes the way it will be analysed/ serviced/ counted for each situation, especially when the construction is usually the point that most companies can justify its BIM cost. If you dont have good people at the top you lock everybody into a software loop. Then you have engineers and architects asking "what do they do again? but drive up fees". Very infamous business case issue when it comes to costing #BIM4BIMsake

  • @mahdivalaee9812
    @mahdivalaee9812 Před 2 lety +1

    thank you for your honesty bro.

  • @ultimatemepdesigns5591
    @ultimatemepdesigns5591 Před 2 lety +22

    But whatever you're doing is part of BIM. estimation is also a integral part of Building information modelling which is represented by 5th dimension (5D) of BIM. BIM is not just creating virtual 3D model of any building structure, BIM is a process from which we extract the required data and information of the project & implement it on actual site to avoid the miscommunication between different services and do time management. So sir, you doesn't left the BIM you're working in the industry and we hope you're doing well as Estimation engineer.
    GET SET BIM.

    • @TreyTan
      @TreyTan  Před 2 lety +1

      Damn bro you bleed passion! Haha love the way you put it into words. I would agree with you if I was still on the General Contractor side but on the Owner’s side it’s less about construction but more about validating the work in construction so that the Owner gets exactly what he/she paid for. I’ll try to cover more on that in later series. Stay tuned! GET SET BIM!

    • @reuben9232
      @reuben9232 Před 2 lety +4

      Yeah be it cost mamagement or projrct management it still falls under BIM in 5d aspects

    • @minhtrannhat3073
      @minhtrannhat3073 Před rokem

      I agree with you.

  • @wentaofeng5548
    @wentaofeng5548 Před 25 dny

    Completely understand you feeling though I'd say I am on the opposite side of the spectrum lol. I started as a civil engineer and then got myself hooked into 3d modeling and architectural design, then i got into BIM purely because my work required me to learn it. You are absolutely right saying BIM is software-driven, now instead of being on site I spend much more time (like 99% of daily worktime) behind a screen trying to figure out problems related to parametric design.....I even self-learned python to help me better solve issues related to BIM modeling

  • @chorizojoe8282
    @chorizojoe8282 Před 6 dny

    Very interesting. I started as a spec writer for interior designers and clients at a local tile place, I then moved onto a different company as an interior designer / 3D artist. Today I am starting as a draftsman for a lighting company. Honestly, this is the lowest paying job out of the other two, but based on the interviews I had, this is the job with the best work-life balance. As a commercial designer I would work endless hours and I felt so miserable. Hopefully I’ll enjoy this job a bit more since I’m more reclusive than others in my field.

  • @ajdrewtv222
    @ajdrewtv222 Před rokem +7

    I just found out about your video while searching for a BIM tutorial. Suddenly it hits me on your words and till now I am struggling which path I should go. From 1st employment as a Civil Engineer in construction in the Philippines and here I am in UAE working as a Cad operator. Feeling downgraded and doing this just to survive. Sigh 😓

    • @TreyTan
      @TreyTan  Před rokem +8

      Tbh, it sounds like you're in your twenties, You're still young and you have time to experiment and see what you like/dislike. Being a CAD operator is great, but try learning other softwares too like Revit or Navisworks would be helpful (that is if you still want to do BIM). Find out what you enjoy doing first, then make money doing it. It took me 3 tries to get to my dream job! All the best!

    • @maciekpart75
      @maciekpart75 Před rokem

      @@TreyTan I think that Revit is really bad path. I've been Revit user (architect) for 13 years and it is true that this software drives you as there's always something wrong with it - you still need to think not about your project but how to make something in your project within annoying revit limitations. I moved to another BIM software which makes all much, much simpler. I should make my shift at least 10 years earlier. It would save me tons of frustration caused just by damn stupid software...

    • @HappyHouseIdeas
      @HappyHouseIdeas Před rokem

      @@maciekpart75 what software are you using now sir?

    • @maciekpart75
      @maciekpart75 Před rokem

      @@HappyHouseIdeas Archicad. It is the best so far. I made my dissertation with Allplan, then I've been using Revit. I was working on quite complex projects in Revit. I was admired with it for a long time. On the basic level it is ok. But when you get to the point where design options, phasing, parts are involved it really could drive crazy. I never trusted estimations and take offs from this software.

    • @robertrabara1
      @robertrabara1 Před rokem

      @@maciekpart75 for me bentley (open building design) is good option also.

  • @mokhtarawwad6291
    @mokhtarawwad6291 Před 5 měsíci

    Thanks for sharing , i am considering BIM Engineer as a career ,

  • @janganliatchannelini
    @janganliatchannelini Před 10 měsíci +5

    As a BIM engineer who gave up, i hope many people to become BIM engineer too, because i dont want everyone give up too...., and nobody will become BIM engineer

  • @KusKanat
    @KusKanat Před 10 měsíci

    I wish you could get in to construction as a part of Engineering team on Actual site with RFI's and Contract reviews, Planing of the all activities from Engineering stand point. In this case you might love BIM/Design Engineering.
    After 15 years in Industrial engineering the best it will be if you can enhance your major (civil/mech/piping etc) by being in different organizations such as a Projectized and Functional. Looks like you in Functional type of organization. Also I think to be great BIM Designer people should talk to site guys. But I do remember Cost Estimator people always come to us asking how it going to be build

    • @karlcorrz
      @karlcorrz Před 9 měsíci

      Correct, BIM Engineers are much more connected with site during construction phase, all the RFIs, FCRs, NCRs (lol), you know the site conditions more and feel connected more with the model.
      Comparing this with Detailed Design (DD) phase, it's so boring and monotone. At DD phase, it's all just theories and guesses and designs with nothing to connect with the field.

  • @TheEmerse
    @TheEmerse Před 11 měsíci

    You said you wanted to be on the side where you know more about construction - so what path are you on now to achieve that goal? I'm trying to learn about all the different avenues as someone who really feels like he knows nothing.

  • @fengli8116
    @fengli8116 Před rokem +1

    Hi Trey, Thanks for your video. I use Python and Dynamo for BIM project, it is also funny.

    • @TreyTan
      @TreyTan  Před rokem +1

      That's awesome! That's next level BIM which involves computational science and automation! Respect for you ^^

  • @viiinslancelot5847
    @viiinslancelot5847 Před rokem +8

    BIM is only effective if one uses it as a BIM rather than like a regular CAD software.
    Revit is a beast of information. Every information you can come up with can be extracted off the models, provided you model things correctly and embed information correctly, including material take offs.

    • @HawkGTboy
      @HawkGTboy Před 7 měsíci

      Yes, and your average "drafter" in the MEP industry is too dense and stubborn to do anything with that embedded information. I frequently have to train new hires who've never touched Revit before (but we hired them anyway). It's not a learning curve that everyone can climb. There are a lot of "drafters" out there who are smart enough to draw lines but not smart enough to understand what's going on in a BIM model.

    • @Muukelih
      @Muukelih Před 5 měsíci

      @@HawkGTboy As a Cad drafter student, what tips would you give to me to get me a competent drafter that firms want to hire? I already know that I try to specialize in BIM, so all the internships I have I try to get BIM tasks as much as possible. We use AutoCAD for 2d and Revit for BIM in school but we can do the internships with any software architect firms use (archicad etc.) Is it too bad if I go to AutoCAD internship role as my first internship? (I will have few internships left after that, so I still would have some BIM internships). I also live in Finland, so might be a different than US, but I appreciate any knowledge you can share ^^

    • @HawkGTboy
      @HawkGTboy Před 5 měsíci

      @@Muukelih It honestly doesn’t matter. Just get a job somewhere and start learning the industry. Here in the US we hire people all the time who’ve never touched BIM. The expectation is that they’ll just “figure it out.”

    • @Muukelih
      @Muukelih Před 5 měsíci

      @@HawkGTboy Okay awesome! thx for taking ur time to answer! have a great day! ^^

  • @edmondstrelnikov8378
    @edmondstrelnikov8378 Před 9 měsíci +2

    That is one of the biggest problems with young graduates coming out of university to work on that type of software without having the field experience. It is always better and easier coming from the field to use a piece of BIM software than the other way around. When you draw or insert an object in a drawing/model, 2D or 3D, that symbol means something physically and if you have never seen it, installed it and commissioned it... you are flying blindfolded. There are infinite issues when going from drawings/models to the construction/installation in the real world. Based on my 31 years of experience working around the world on construction of industrial projects, nothing beats the field experience...get it first and then any piece of software for building projects will be trivial, whether it is 2D or 3D...it doesn't matter when you have the real world experience.
    Of course field experience is not glamorous, you have to get your hands and clothes dirty, it is dangerous, etc. ....but the satisfaction of seeing something that you helped to build working properly and safely is priceless!!

  • @sherifashraf8534
    @sherifashraf8534 Před rokem

    What do you think about planning engineering and cost control in construction field?

  • @muhammadsyathir5295
    @muhammadsyathir5295 Před 2 lety +1

    Thanks for the information that ur given here! Btw i want to ask you a question,Do you make more as an estimator or as a bim engineer?😁😁

    • @TreyTan
      @TreyTan  Před rokem +1

      Had I stayed in BIM, I probably would be making more today. However, I made the jump and had to settle for the difference. Hope that answers your question 😁

  • @sufiyanahmed666
    @sufiyanahmed666 Před rokem

    Leaving clash detection identifying and little documentation works sometimes the BIM workflow looks unnecessary . Is i am right mr tan?

  • @crazygermanviper
    @crazygermanviper Před 7 měsíci +3

    If you do BIM right, you don't really need estimators. That is why there is BIM

  • @chinchunyung2939
    @chinchunyung2939 Před 11 měsíci +1

    I just graduated from bachelor's degree in civil engineering, and my final year research project supervisor shared me a job opportunity to work as a BIM/VDC engineer consultant. He saw me that I am more interested in handling with software stuff during my FYRP. Well, my FYRP is site monitoring using drone and I need to use MATLAB to achieve the research objectives. Not only this, I also handle software tasks and sometime is leader in most of the assignments during the undergraduate.
    Personally, I was actually looking for site/project engineers vacancy but it will need some time to get a job in my region. But now, I have the job opportunity to work as BIM engineer in the consultant firm, which i never expected and thought of to work in a consultant firm. Any suggestions/advices/comment to start the job as a fresh BIM engineer?
    note: BIM technology is also has very low adoption in my region (East Malaysia) while I will be working at Kuala Lumpur first. sorry for the long paragraphs lol

  • @itsme...2206
    @itsme...2206 Před rokem +2

    I am from India and postgraduated in structural engineering...can you suggest me software courses to start my career

  • @jordanomoleye
    @jordanomoleye Před rokem +1

    Great video. Now I'm more interested in getting a degree in BIM

    • @TreyTan
      @TreyTan  Před rokem

      Happy to hear that! All the best!

  • @CarabinaWY
    @CarabinaWY Před 7 měsíci +5

    Not agree with your reasons. To be a great BIM Modeler, Coordinator and Manager you need to know every aspects of the construction: cost, proccedures, details, materials. I had been working as an construction supervisor for 4 years, now I get an BIM Coordinator role, I've been enjoying so far getting to implement my site knowledge to the models and the construct coordination/planning department. I can understand the getting tired of screen aspect, hope that doesn't hit me before I get to be a BIM Manager and develope the project management side of BIM. Thank you for your pov and explaining it so well. Hope you well futurer brother

  • @claudiocipolletta3588
    @claudiocipolletta3588 Před rokem +6

    I think you're far away from understanding the concept of BIM. If you're in construction and you think you don't partecipate in the BIM process, even if you worked 2 years as BIM engineer, you didn't understand what is BIM.
    BIM is not a software, BIM is not 3d modelling.
    BIM is a process, and being a BIM engineer is being a person who works with structured data (geometrical and non-geometrical).

    • @pittbrad
      @pittbrad Před 5 měsíci

      looking for this comment! thanks!

  • @patjlinnane
    @patjlinnane Před 11 měsíci +1

    This is how i feel training in BIM cos now im training in Construction mgmt. And its been a rough ride using Revit 2024. Its useless piece of rubbish that cant even do topography unless you use Civil 3D and then save csv files to then load in Revit. Oh ive had some sleepless nignts staying up to like 5.30am. Im 100% in agreement with you.

    • @HawkGTboy
      @HawkGTboy Před 7 měsíci +4

      Unless you own the company, NO JOB is worth pulling an all nighter for. I've been in the middle of "all hands on deck" deadline crunches, gotten up from my desk and gone home at 8pm. Manager threatened to fire me. I had to tell him "I'm allowed to eat. I'm allowed to sleep. I'm allowed to see my family at night. If that's a problem let me know and I'll clean out my desk right now." He backed down, LOL.
      Early in my career managers would bully me into working all nighters. Looking back on it I should have decked a few of them.

    • @patjlinnane
      @patjlinnane Před 7 měsíci

      @@HawkGTboy Me too haha. Oh im diggin ur BIM energy 😁👷‍♂️

  • @robertrabara1
    @robertrabara1 Před rokem +1

    Did you do the reinforcement model also? And rebar schedule?

    • @TreyTan
      @TreyTan  Před rokem +1

      Hi Robert, no that would be the responsibility of the structural engineer.

  • @sriharisrinivasan7255

    I am a cost estimator/quantity surveyor for past 10 years, i am thinking to learn softwares like civil 3d atleast since that could be the future even for estimators

    • @TreyTan
      @TreyTan  Před rokem +1

      It’s definitely good to learn how to use softwares like these! Could be helpful in your career. Good luck!

  • @vankostudio9233
    @vankostudio9233 Před 6 měsíci +2

    Early Revit adopter (2003!) here...
    I am considering leaving Revit behind, returning to a Rhino-CAD workflow. Final documents may end up in Revit, but not guaranteed as I fear Revit is ruining my ability to be creative and an intelligent architect.

    • @BertiBIM-hf8wx
      @BertiBIM-hf8wx Před měsícem

      doesn't restrict you from aplying the BIM Method. You can create and add Information to Rhino parts that can be transfered to Revit. Instead of choosing between the two, why not use both ?

  • @PriyankaGupta-is1qb
    @PriyankaGupta-is1qb Před rokem +1

    hello, tan,
    I am an architecture student currently in my 4th year, I found my interest in using software like 3d max, twin motion, and many more
    but I am not able to decide where I should start first or what are the possibilities with these skills or from learning these? can you please suggest them to me.

    • @TreyTan
      @TreyTan  Před rokem

      Hi Priyanka, I’ve found global e training to be affordable and easy to learn/follow. An alternative you can also look at would be Udemy. Hope that helps!

    • @OURGROUP_media
      @OURGROUP_media Před rokem

      @@TreyTan heey Tan , can you suggest the course for this, im very Interested to do construction related cost and building Supervising and all Can u suggest the course or whatever for learning
      Im Researched and looking to complete revit Software course is this good can u suggest

  • @Nicholas.Tsagkos
    @Nicholas.Tsagkos Před měsícem

    Hard to imagine myself without BIM, ideally i would love to continue my life working with BIM and Revit.

  • @mohammedtousif958
    @mohammedtousif958 Před rokem

    Sir i5 10th gen processor is good for BIM, REVIT and CAD ?

  • @Engrwaleed555
    @Engrwaleed555 Před 6 měsíci

    So my experience is the reverse of it. I have been a field engineer for last 3 year but right now switching to BIM design sector.

  • @panchora99
    @panchora99 Před rokem +1

    Hey Tan, I am conssidering getting started in BIM. Do you have any recocmendations on where can I learn BIM? there are so many options online that I dont which are good and valid and which are fake.

    • @TreyTan
      @TreyTan  Před rokem +2

      It depends if you are planning to do it online or in person. I recommend starting with free courses first where you can learn from global-e-training or linkedin or youtube. Hope that helps.

    • @panchora99
      @panchora99 Před rokem +1

      @@TreyTan that actuañly helps a lot. Will help me guide me to where I want to go.

  • @winegyaldine
    @winegyaldine Před rokem

    What is BIM in this context? I was looking for info on the POS system and when I saw you with the coffee mug, I thought you worked in a restaurant...😅

  • @affan5448
    @affan5448 Před 10 měsíci

    How can i study cost management or how to become a cost manager?

  • @Firebulous
    @Firebulous Před 2 lety +2

    I’m an architect and also in project management and kinda shifting to BIM… hmmm now I don’t know what to do after watching this 😮‍💨

    • @TreyTan
      @TreyTan  Před rokem

      Easy answer is to see what you enjoy doing more. Do you like design or management? BIM is great too if you enjoy working with 3D models.

    • @viiinslancelot5847
      @viiinslancelot5847 Před rokem

      If you are an Architect, you better hire someone who knows what BIM is.
      I recently modelled a 6 story podium building for a firm during DD. Their in-house 3D technician told them he knew Revit when he was hired and manually input every text in the construction documents, including schedules.

  • @gerbor1910
    @gerbor1910 Před měsícem

    Hi. My name German Borisov. I from Russian and my speciality is BIM engineer. I slowly transform into an Architect specialist, simultaneously fulfilling small orders in the field of architecture and design.)

  • @olivierstultiens
    @olivierstultiens Před 9 měsíci

    What do you think about civil engineering?

  • @asandrive2237
    @asandrive2237 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Am estimator in precast industry which Bim software CAn I learn new

  • @karlcorrz
    @karlcorrz Před 9 měsíci

    Completely opposite for me, I find 3D modelling and shopdrawing production extremely relaxing. Especially if they are modeled/drawn with complete information and proper coordination. For me, working in BIM focuses on 4 things:
    Software/Hardware knowledge,
    Shopdrawing knowledge/production,
    Coordination,
    Information gathering
    All of them I have my interests in except for Coordination which is still the bane of everybody's existence.

  • @mandarjoshi3765
    @mandarjoshi3765 Před rokem

    Hello sir, i m from india and i will be graduate in this year as civil engineer but i m confused to make career in BIM or not. I love to work with 3d model but i don't know is there any career in and high paying jobs available In BIM. so can tell is the BIM is right choice for civil engineer.

    • @TreyTan
      @TreyTan  Před rokem +2

      Honestly if you're more concern about the money, civil engineer's starting salary should be higher than a BIM Engineer. But if you like BIM and enjoy playing with 3D models, then go for it even if the pay isn't as high. Your salary would be significant as a BIM Manager, but it takes some time to get there... at least 5-7 years of experience. Hope that helps.

  • @rajatkohli6874
    @rajatkohli6874 Před rokem +3

    Great explanation, Trey.
    I'm a civil engineer, and I want to switch my career in BIM. I have grown my interest in BIM, and it seemes initially Revit, Navisworks and Primavera will be good.
    My question is that, according to my skills, being an Indian and indian resident, is there any possibility to get remote job in US/UK or Canadian based company BIM jobs who recruites employee from remote location (or in abroad)? Like BIM modeller, planning; costing engineer; estimation engineer and management engineer.
    If so, please give few name of those companies, or give me any source where I can find such companies.
    Thanks in advance.

    • @pierrefontecha
      @pierrefontecha Před rokem +3

      I think you can make some cash doing BIM consultation for small firms around the world. Many do not want to pay a full-time local-based payrate for a BIM manager, let alone a BIM technician. They usually try to train up their project architects or technicians on Revit with mixed results. That is where you step in and tell them you can 'streamline' the process with BIM principles. Remote, yes. But you need to be approachable and know the construction slang in whatever region you do 'remote work' in. Culture is important. If you show you are of the construction culture, using the words we use, you will do fine universally. Globally.

    • @rajatkohli6874
      @rajatkohli6874 Před rokem

      @@pierrefontecha thank you 😊

    • @TreyTan
      @TreyTan  Před rokem +1

      Totally agree. The hard part is getting that opportunity to do BIM remotely. Most construction companies frown the concept of "remote". I wish people are more open to remote but unfortunately the industry is full of older men who are more "traditional". However, what you said above makes sense and I sincerely hope we move toward a future as you had described

    • @TreyTan
      @TreyTan  Před rokem +1

      Awesome!

  • @AnmolKumar-mc4fe
    @AnmolKumar-mc4fe Před 2 lety +3

    Damn bro.. i just got demotivated. I have to think again before going for BIM ... Actually I graduated this year in architecture.. that's why I was considering BIM.. can you suggest me for the same.. that what should I focus on.

    • @TreyTan
      @TreyTan  Před 2 lety +4

      Honestly if you have to decide between Arch and BIM, I would choose BIM. First of all, it has a higher salary to start off, and you will also learn a thing or two about construction. With Architecture you will spend more time fixing models, creating models, and sometimes even deciding on which material to use or color of the paint. But with BIM, it's more about coordination with subcontractors and making sure the models you get from vendors are aligned, not clashing with each other. Overall, it's better than architecture in my opinion.

    • @viiinslancelot5847
      @viiinslancelot5847 Před rokem

      The AEC industry is moving toward BIM. You will cad left behind if you stayed with 2D system. We are already in VR & AR phase.
      All my general contractors, when they get stuck in figuring out grades and structure or relationship between site elements, they ask for 3D, not a 2D drawing.
      Revit is Building Information Modeling.
      Many people use Revit like a Blender3D, Maya or 3DStudioMax, then get thrown off by the information portion.
      Information is the key component of Revit.

  • @jeffinsamuel3341
    @jeffinsamuel3341 Před rokem

    Hi, i just graduated from my batchelor's degree in electrical and electronics engineering, and i currently got a small low paying job in an bim company. Is it okay for an electrical engineering to be in the bim industry and can i see any growth? Pls share your thoughts

    • @chandruak2622
      @chandruak2622 Před 4 měsíci

      I'm also graduated from my BE degree in EEE, and i will also land in a small BIM company next week. Is it a good option to start my career?

  • @varvara.g
    @varvara.g Před 9 měsíci

    Points
    4 sitting in front of a desk all day - has it changed?
    7. overtime at night -iss it not the same for other disciplines also?
    8. Don't have a life - because you need to wait for conteragent actions?
    I suppose I have question which is interesting for many - is it better paid than BIM?

    • @varvara.g
      @varvara.g Před 9 měsíci

      I worked in three companies so far, first and second I did overtime constantly, but my current is not like that. Maybe the problem is company management.

  • @qwerty-il3kx
    @qwerty-il3kx Před 2 lety +2

    I'd actually go for the model than the numbers for sure 😂😂😂

    • @TreyTan
      @TreyTan  Před rokem +2

      everyone is built differently 😂

  • @mrunaltambe8829
    @mrunaltambe8829 Před rokem +1

    Hey Hi.. I am a 2022 Architecture Graduate and I am planning to move into the BIM industry any suggestions?

    • @edmondstrelnikov8378
      @edmondstrelnikov8378 Před 9 měsíci

      Get at least 5 years of field experience, then any BIM software will be a piece of cake for you and you will be respected by designers and builders...

  • @methumbaba4714
    @methumbaba4714 Před rokem +1

    It's your choice. It doesn't mean bim is useless. You mean you don't like learn bim softwares. It is your problem. Any one can't hate new innovation. Because new innovation is our future. Some one hate new innovation one day he will cry.

    • @TreyTan
      @TreyTan  Před rokem

      Yes you’re right. We can’t hate on innovation, it’s the only way to create a breakthrough. I do respect BIM, it’s just that BIM is not for me. Do what you love & love what you do.

    • @robertrabara1
      @robertrabara1 Před rokem

      Bim is usefull if the model is 100 correct based on site condition

  • @sufiyanahmed666
    @sufiyanahmed666 Před rokem +1

    Is the Bim process job is very confusing and stressful ?

    • @TreyTan
      @TreyTan  Před rokem +1

      Honestly, sometimes it can be especially when you get into the weeds. However, with enough practice anything is possible :)

    • @robertrabara1
      @robertrabara1 Před rokem

      Bim is good if the model 100% correct!

  • @MsAllie-hf1bh
    @MsAllie-hf1bh Před rokem +1

    How can your followers contact you since you left Kattera?

    • @TreyTan
      @TreyTan  Před rokem

      Through CZcams or LinkedIn.

  • @SajjadAli-df6ee
    @SajjadAli-df6ee Před rokem

    Please tell me softwares used in BIM??I want to do master in construction management and BIM..

    • @TreyTan
      @TreyTan  Před rokem +1

      Revit, Navisworks, AutoCAD, Bluebeam

    • @abidhasan4184
      @abidhasan4184 Před rokem +1

      Hi Sajjad, I am also going to do same Master , Can I have you LinkedIn link?

  • @angelos1446
    @angelos1446 Před 5 měsíci

    I started my journey with Revit and BIM back in 2002 and I am a Civil engineer by training. - BIM should be this CoPilot for enhancing our engineering design and decisions. The problem with BIM being focused mostly on Software is cause of three reasons:
    1. Corporate culture (Hierarchy focused and pigeonholing)
    2. System disruption.
    Older generation vs younger generation. With the first being ignorant, arrogant and afraid of change and the latter not having the construction experience
    3. Education system is faulty
    Universities, companies and governments are becoming affiliated with Software companies and communities with particular agendas that serve personal interests.
    BIM could bring a mentality of collaboration and holistic approach for most of the construction world. Instead, the dickheads that influence tbe industry made it a CAD replacement.

  • @QuietObserver3000
    @QuietObserver3000 Před 3 měsíci

    I think this is very misleading. As someone who has worked exclusively in BIM for 13 years, I can tell you that BIM is a Swiss army knife which has many different applications and ways to apply the software. For example, I have never been an engineer myself, but I worked along side them using BIM to create the plans, specs, details, schedules, calculations etc. (even the "fake" clash detection and coordination that he mentioned). I experienced many of the same frustrations while using BIM in a deign/engineering application, so I pivoted to using BIM for construction and pre-fabrication. I started working for a mechanical trade rather than an engineering firm, where I learned all of the constructability and installation details that he was searching for. It is the same software, but when you are applying it differently, you will learn different skills. Now I too have pivoted to focusing on the information aspect of BIM, helping owners to use the data that is in the models for facility management and operations.
    My point is, if you do not like how you are using BIM in your current role, look into other ways to apply the software by switching your role and company.... you do not need to abandon it altogether.

  • @civilengineer10703
    @civilengineer10703 Před 2 lety +2

    Hi I'm shoaib from Pakistan (civil engineer) plz give me some guide lines to becomes expert in revit and bim

    • @TreyTan
      @TreyTan  Před 2 lety +1

      Hi Shoaib, I summarize these points in the video below. Hope that helps.
      How to be a BIM Engineer: czcams.com/video/p_ShU_I2ZdU/video.html

    • @civilengineer10703
      @civilengineer10703 Před 2 lety

      Nice bro

  • @ediskaradan6575
    @ediskaradan6575 Před 2 lety +1

    Then become a BIM manager, then your job is to calculate everything and lead the bim modelers

    • @TreyTan
      @TreyTan  Před rokem +2

      True, but it takes 5-7 years to get there. I don't think i have enough passion to help me get through the rough 5-7 years haha.

  • @weiwang447
    @weiwang447 Před rokem

    Hi Trey, thanks for your sharing, right now, I am a cost management intern working for a consulting company, and they might give me a return offer when I complete my master's degree, would you like to share insight salary for this position?

    • @TreyTan
      @TreyTan  Před rokem

      Yeah depending on where you’re at, it’s roughly 70k-80k to start as assistant cost manager > 90k -100k cost manager > 120-130k senior cost manager > director 150k. Hope this helps

    • @varvara.g
      @varvara.g Před 9 měsíci

      @@TreyTan in US dollars?

  • @feriprayudi12
    @feriprayudi12 Před 20 dny

    saya lebih tertarik pada Detail engineering drawing

  • @ChiPuCuGamer
    @ChiPuCuGamer Před 10 měsíci

    anh có phải là người Việt Nam không ạ

  • @vign1155
    @vign1155 Před 2 lety

    Hey tran,
    Is it possible to change career from BIM to structural engineering without masters?

    • @TreyTan
      @TreyTan  Před rokem

      Honestly, structural engineering is such a niche which requires a lot more. I don't think you can make the switch without some form of formal education.

  • @bilalasim6289
    @bilalasim6289 Před rokem +1

    Even i think like. You.. I hate screens

    • @TreyTan
      @TreyTan  Před rokem

      Finally someone who thinks like me 😂

    • @bilalasim6289
      @bilalasim6289 Před rokem

      @@TreyTan unfortunately no career

  • @steadyletsgo
    @steadyletsgo Před rokem +2

    Just say u want to be an Architect cause that's what I'm getting from this

    • @TreyTan
      @TreyTan  Před rokem +1

      haha no, I want to be a Cost control expert!

  • @user_cracked
    @user_cracked Před rokem +1

    Being a civil engineering graduate
    Is it okay to work in BIM architect rather than BIM structures
    Which has more scope in future for getting job easily
    BIM in architects or BIM in Structures?

  • @istiadahardh1720
    @istiadahardh1720 Před rokem

    You left the train of BIM Just before its started to got in track its your lost not BIM lost

  • @cahuantico321
    @cahuantico321 Před 2 měsíci

    en verdad este chico solo se ha dedicado a modelar y no en la metodologia

  • @routtookc8064
    @routtookc8064 Před rokem

    As a former HVAC designer and now a bim coordinator I've said for a long time, Revit is the worst computer game ever made.

    • @varvara.g
      @varvara.g Před 9 měsíci +1

      😄 that's funny but try to work with Autocad for a bit - maybe you will appreciate Revit afterwards

    • @routtookc8064
      @routtookc8064 Před 9 měsíci +1

      i was here when revit came on the scene@@varvara.g

    • @varvara.g
      @varvara.g Před 9 měsíci

      was it better game though? @@routtookc8064

  • @benthk3dprt136
    @benthk3dprt136 Před rokem

    As an AutoCAD draftsman I wonderd what a "Bim draftsman" does differently, So this confirms my assuption, they have no idea what they are doing.

    • @TreyTan
      @TreyTan  Před rokem

      Tbh I’ve never heard of a bim draftsman position. Entry level for BIM is bim modeler > engineer > manager.

    • @viiinslancelot5847
      @viiinslancelot5847 Před rokem +1

      They are typically called "BIM Technician". Drafter is someone who draws lines :)

  • @nurulnur9363
    @nurulnur9363 Před 2 lety +3

    Kind of agree with no life...

    • @TreyTan
      @TreyTan  Před 2 lety

      You know it..

    • @nurulnur9363
      @nurulnur9363 Před 2 lety

      Forget to add no work life balance..

    • @TreyTan
      @TreyTan  Před 2 lety

      @@nurulnur9363 and no friends.... because you’re always working

  • @rolfterry1773
    @rolfterry1773 Před 2 lety

    ᵖʳᵒᵐᵒˢᵐ 🤔

  • @1021132
    @1021132 Před rokem

    Playing with models in a virtual environment? you haven't done anything in BIM . Say that and just move on.
    If you are a skilled BIM Professional everything can be incorporated into the BIM Model.
    You don't have the necessary skills and thought process to move forward
    Katerra is a BIG firm (then) you should have joined a small BIM Practice where you can learn whatever you are doing as a cost Consultant.

    • @TreyTan
      @TreyTan  Před rokem +1

      BIM is great but it doesn't teach you how to build.

    • @1021132
      @1021132 Před rokem +2

      @@TreyTan You are correct ,you need to know how to build and use BIM to Build it better.
      BIM cannot solve the problem , people can
      But using BIM you can do it in a much better way.

    • @TreyTan
      @TreyTan  Před rokem

      @@1021132 100%

    • @viiinslancelot5847
      @viiinslancelot5847 Před rokem +1

      Well Said. I was reading the comments and sadly see that many have no idea what actually BIM is.

  • @robertdavis5714
    @robertdavis5714 Před 10 měsíci +1

    You better love to draw otherwise will get very boring. Fire Protection Engineer - Lic. Contractor (Fire Sprinkler Design). When I started it was pencil on velum and believe it or not I miss that + got more recognition for my hand drawings (I was as good as any Architect) and then along comes CAD. It has it's advantages and anybody can produce something decent to look at, but being from hand drawings my CAD stuff looks pretty damn good, got many good compliments in the past, I just turned 62. No BIM yet, just 3D, however drawn in 2D which makes for a better environment.