Velotric Summit 1 Ebike Review - The Best Budget eMTB

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  • čas přidán 26. 08. 2024

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  • @chaxologist2024
    @chaxologist2024 Před 3 měsíci +4

    This thing is the future and at the forefront of electric bike technology and reliability!
    Has a far higher top speed and easily outperforms the likes of Trek Rail or Fuel Exe in power, water resistance and versatility while easily being less than a fifth of the price!
    Perfect to ride on somewhat technical and steep fire roads that most adventurers seek.
    I would outfit this bike with the 11-speed Shimano linkglide for ultimate durability and sleek shifter system!
    Those overpriced eMTBs are practically niche bikes now that won't come close to matching this one's versatility and utility!

  • @Scott_Vicious
    @Scott_Vicious Před měsícem +1

    Thank you for doing a REAL test of this bike. This is exactly what I've been looking for.

    • @JaredHoff
      @JaredHoff  Před měsícem +1

      @@Scott_Vicious glad to have helped. Cheers

    • @Scott_Vicious
      @Scott_Vicious Před 20 dny

      @@JaredHoff Picked it up! Two 30 miles rides in. Love it.

    • @JaredHoff
      @JaredHoff  Před 20 dny +1

      @@Scott_Vicious heck yeah 👍 Stoked for you man!

  • @SteveKimbo
    @SteveKimbo Před 4 měsíci +4

    That does look sweet for under 2k! I think if it were me, it'd be tyres, maybe some SLX 4 pots and an 11 speed SLX groupset. Also I think I've got an AXS dropper somewhere so that would go on too. Looks like it'd be decent for shuttling my kids around the trails!

    • @JaredHoff
      @JaredHoff  Před 4 měsíci +1

      AXS dropper would be a great option plus the other stufff you mentioned 👍

  • @DavidBrown-iy2pl
    @DavidBrown-iy2pl Před 3 měsíci +1

    The front shock since it is not recommended for rough trail riding and everything else you said with the drive train I agree

  • @0321ReconMan
    @0321ReconMan Před 2 měsíci

    Ya it’s a sweet bike at the price point even now. I ended up getting one before the tariffs went into effect. So only 1699 for me. I upgraded the forks, pedals, handle bars, and grips. All I need to do now is maybe put a better groupset on it and it will be complete. Depending on the groupset I’ll still be in for way less then the Rambalas and most other options of hardtail emtbs.

  • @RunBikeMike
    @RunBikeMike Před 4 měsíci +2

    Nice Review on the Summit 1. It is a fun bike for sure.

    • @JaredHoff
      @JaredHoff  Před 4 měsíci

      Thanks man! I had so much fun riding it.

  • @mikedalton9481
    @mikedalton9481 Před 3 měsíci

    Finally someone testing this bike that knows how to ride some, thanks.

    • @JaredHoff
      @JaredHoff  Před 3 měsíci

      Thanks man! I really had fun on this bike.

    • @mikedalton9481
      @mikedalton9481 Před 2 měsíci

      @@JaredHoff I bought one and coming from a BMX background I don't mind the hardtail. So far I'm taking it easy but heading to a MTB trails this weekend. Not going to test the limits but we shall see how it does there, so far I love it.

  • @ShadLife
    @ShadLife Před 3 měsíci

    Keep in mind, most singletrack mountain bike trails only allow Class 1 eBikes. That is pedal assist only with no throttle and a max speed of 20 MPH. Any other eBike is likely banned. So this bike would not be allowed on almost all singletrack mountain bike trails in my area and most areas throughout the country.

    • @JaredHoff
      @JaredHoff  Před 3 měsíci +3

      This bike is a class 1, 2, or 3. You can remove the throttle and ride it pedal assist only.

  • @SHWELL11
    @SHWELL11 Před 4 měsíci

    Dropper and Brakes first... Then Tires and Gearset.. Seat and Cockpit changes as needed...

    • @reallifescience2069
      @reallifescience2069 Před 4 měsíci

      Might as well change the whole thing. All the components are bottom tier

    • @JaredHoff
      @JaredHoff  Před 4 měsíci

      For sure 👍

    • @JaredHoff
      @JaredHoff  Před 4 měsíci +1

      They all held up just fine to the riding I was doing. I think sometimes we put too much into all the latest high-tech gear the industry sells us on. Don’t get me wrong, I spend wayyy too much on my other bikes. But this bike was so much fun to ride and held up to the abuse I put it through with no problems.

  • @troup1998
    @troup1998 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Considering Summit 1 or Aventon Ramblis. Have you compared the 2?

    • @JaredHoff
      @JaredHoff  Před 3 měsíci +3

      Just looked up the Aventon and you can see why it cost so much more. I’d say if you’re looking for a bike that’s made for solely riding on the mountain,,, then get the Aventon.
      If you want a commuter bike that can handle the occasional mountain bike trail,,, get the Summit 1.

  • @tyman2007
    @tyman2007 Před měsícem

    No rear shock is a killer for me . Need one with dual shocks specially at that price.

    • @JaredHoff
      @JaredHoff  Před měsícem +1

      @@tyman2007 I hear ya, but no rear shock also means less maintenance, more pedaling efficiency, and it’s got those fat tires that offer a bit of cushion.

  • @WayneTheSeine
    @WayneTheSeine Před 3 měsíci

    I am anxiously awaiting the delivery of my Velotric Summit 1. Can't wait.

    • @JaredHoff
      @JaredHoff  Před 3 měsíci

      Nice 👍 Stoked for you!

    • @WayneTheSeine
      @WayneTheSeine Před 3 měsíci

      @@JaredHoff Pray...... I am 76 and haven'tt ridden a bicycle in 30 years. 😁

  • @victorrojas4857
    @victorrojas4857 Před 27 dny

    bought one two weeks ago, have a brake censor error
    tire keeps going flat and came with the front brake disc warped

    • @JaredHoff
      @JaredHoff  Před 27 dny

      @@victorrojas4857 Sorry that you’ve had issues. You can use an adjustable spanner wrench (crescent) to fix the brake rotor. Add tire sealant to the tubes to fix the tire. They have some good how to guides for trouble shooting. Looks like this error calls for inspecting the brake sensor wiring, but I’d check the Velotric Bike website and follow the instructions.

  • @StayConnectedEV
    @StayConnectedEV Před 4 měsíci

    Lack of rear shocks was a killer for me

    • @JaredHoff
      @JaredHoff  Před 4 měsíci +2

      I thought so as well, but the bike was so much fun downhill and no rear shock means less maintenance cost over time.

    • @StayConnectedEV
      @StayConnectedEV Před 4 měsíci

      @@JaredHoff​​⁠true. I just felt if it had the rear shocks this would been a must buy. I agree it’s fun to ride I had some lag too in throttle. Did you experience that? Velotric said it could be noise from the brake caliper.

    • @JaredHoff
      @JaredHoff  Před 4 měsíci +1

      @StayConnectedEV I didn’t experience lag in the throttle but I mostly used pedal assist. Although the throttle is way more fun than I thought it would be 😂

  • @OregonCrow
    @OregonCrow Před 27 dny

    Got mine with a dead motor, one month later and still no response from the company.

    • @JaredHoff
      @JaredHoff  Před 27 dny

      @@OregonCrow I’m sorry to hear that. Did you register your warranty claim? Here’s a link to do that www.velotricbike.com/pages/bike-warranty-registration
      Also, have you tried calling them? Here’s the number +1888-559-3099 Hours: 7AM~4PM PST (Monday~Friday)

  • @flpete
    @flpete Před 3 měsíci

    Well done. Your 1 reason why decided to buy the Summt 1

    • @JaredHoff
      @JaredHoff  Před 3 měsíci

      Nice 👍 Stoked for you!

  • @Rosco0754
    @Rosco0754 Před 3 měsíci

    The pins on those pedals!!!!!!!!!

    • @JaredHoff
      @JaredHoff  Před 3 měsíci

      The pedals I usually ride have more aggressive pins. Replaceable pedals pins are ideal as well.

  • @emike09
    @emike09 Před 2 měsíci

    For those with real mountains and big climbs, this thing's motor overheats very rapidly. It'll start overheating in about 5 minutes of climbing our paved canyon roads. Not excellent for big mountains, sadly. Still enjoying it though.

    • @JaredHoff
      @JaredHoff  Před 2 měsíci +1

      I didn’t have any overheating issues. Maybe the pavement roads at lower altitudes are hotter than mountain trails in the trees 🤷🏼‍♂️ I had a ton of fun riding it as well.

  • @LaurentiusTriarius
    @LaurentiusTriarius Před 4 měsíci

    Around here there's like 10 used Cannondale moterra for sale under 3k CDN, plus all the others I can't remember the model names, Facebook marketplace has it covered 😂

    • @JaredHoff
      @JaredHoff  Před 4 měsíci

      This is a brand new model. Just released. I got to ride it before it was available online which was pretty cool. The guys at Velotric have been a blast to work with and it’s awesome that they sell these at local bike shops for those who want to see it in person.

  • @goodcyrus
    @goodcyrus Před měsícem +4

    THEY JUST RAISED THE PRICE FROM 1700 TO 2K WHILE EVERYONE IS DROPPING PRICES. COOL MOVE! WONT SUPPORT SUCH BUSINESS. NOT A REAL MTB ANYWAYS.

  • @onceuponareset-ho7fg
    @onceuponareset-ho7fg Před 3 měsíci

    I would want until Velotric makes the necessary upgrades. This bike can only loosely be called a "mountain bike".

    • @JaredHoff
      @JaredHoff  Před 3 měsíci

      I think you have to keep in mind who this bike was designed for. It’s a great for some who is looking for the versatility of a bike that can haul everything around as a commuter, yet still ride on the local trails and have fun.

  • @jonpeterson4085
    @jonpeterson4085 Před 4 měsíci

    I actually like the surge from cadence sensors. is this bike very responsive in boost 5?

    • @JaredHoff
      @JaredHoff  Před 4 měsíci

      Pedal assist is super responsive in Boost. I didn’t mess with the throttle that much but it gives you some good power as well.

    • @scotthines5834
      @scotthines5834 Před 3 měsíci

      It sounds like ìt climbs up really steep hills? My Aventon Aventure gives out ascending steeper trails.
      Great video.

    • @sxty8goats
      @sxty8goats Před 3 měsíci

      That surge is fine for street or wide trails. If you are trying to ride technical trails / single track, that boost will throw you off and cause you to crash. I had a Aventure 1.0 and bought a 2.0 2 months later because I wanted the torque sensor. Cadence is un-rideable in the woods.

    • @jonpeterson4085
      @jonpeterson4085 Před 3 měsíci

      @@sxty8goats yea, i found that out the hard way, have to be careful

  • @kris8165
    @kris8165 Před 3 měsíci

    Few people need a better bike.
    I never owned a E-bike,and even this bike is overpriced for me. But, it's a awesome looking, and more of a bike,than I could ever need! Only the hard core riders would find this bike limiting. Greetings from the everyday bicycle abuser from Croatia 😎

  • @bike314
    @bike314 Před 4 měsíci

    Are the battery and charger ul listed?

  • @honestnewsnet
    @honestnewsnet Před 3 měsíci +1

    Why in the world would you want to push the bike beyond what it was made to do? What purpose would they be in that? Other than ruining it.

    • @macstmanj3
      @macstmanj3 Před 3 měsíci +1

      Showing what it can do so people know if it's something they might want

  • @ShadLife
    @ShadLife Před 3 měsíci +1

    It's a rear hub drive. All the weight in the back means it isn't good for mountain biking. Maybe an okay commuter.

    • @JaredHoff
      @JaredHoff  Před 3 měsíci

      All I know is it felt good on the trails and was fun to ride. Geared towards an entry level rider or someone who wants it as a commuter, it also want to hit an occasional MTB trail.

    • @ShadLife
      @ShadLife Před 3 měsíci

      @@JaredHoff That's fine, then don't show mid drive motor eBikes as the overpriced comparison to this thing.

    • @chaxologist2024
      @chaxologist2024 Před 3 měsíci +2

      ​@@ShadLifeThey are still overpriced nonetheless...rear hub motors are much less maintenance intensive and are throttle-ready if the chain breaks.
      Still a massively capable hill climber with 90nm of torque!
      And the battery in the tube already offsets some of the rear weight.
      The assistance is a massive advantage coming from an analog cycling background.

    • @IHatePikeys
      @IHatePikeys Před 3 měsíci +1

      You’ve never actually ridden this have you? I can upgrade the parts and outride you any day….Dude take a chill pill..

    • @ShadLife
      @ShadLife Před 3 měsíci

      @@IHatePikeys I have ridden both $10k eBikes with mid drive motors and cheaper ones with rear hub drive motors. So yeah, there is no comparison. Having all that weight at the back wheel instead of in the center of the bike, and a lot more weight overall, makes the bike much harder to ride as a mountain bike. And when I say mountain biking, I mean technical singletrack, not wide fire roads or double track. Jumping, drops, riding steeps and so on is not something you want to be doing on a bike with an extra heavy rear wheel.
      My point here is that comparing this bike to higher end mid drive eBikes is a lame comparison because a higher end mid drive eBike rides a million times better than some heavy ass rear hub drive eBike.
      If it wasn't for his comparison at the beginning of the video, I wouldn't have bothered commenting.
      So yeah, put me on a $10k mid drive eBike and you ride the thing in this video, then we hit some legitimate singletrack and we can see who comes out on top... 😉

  • @CnyMTB
    @CnyMTB Před 4 měsíci

    You can put a 12 speed on the bike

    • @JaredHoff
      @JaredHoff  Před 4 měsíci

      11 speed max. If you watch the video towards the end. I talk about upgrades. You should be able to scroll on the timeline and find that section

    • @CnyMTB
      @CnyMTB Před 4 měsíci

      @JaredHoff but a 12 speed nx cassette will fit on an 8,9,10 freehub body...... so why is it 11 speed max?

  • @mtbboy1993
    @mtbboy1993 Před 2 měsíci

    4:05 Absurdly tiny cassette, big chain ring, so heavily geared you need the motor just to ride the bike. Stupid choice. But as you mentioned you can upgrade it. But weird they did not spec a Deore Rd andd Cs on it.
    10:24 But you touched on that. Yes why not?.
    Absurdly slack seat tube angle, so my knees won't like that, I will be uncomfortable, sitting too far back ,and my knees will likely hurt if riding too long, my quads will feel it too for sure. If you know about geometry. This is a deal breaker.
    1:24 Hub motor so it will be heavy at the rear, not desirable for a mountain bike. If the wight was in the centre it would make lighter feeling bike.
    Resin only rotors. so need to swap those cheese rotors. Proper pads and rotors make a massive difference. Shimano resin pads wear out fast, and the rotor has bad bite and gets glazed easily. But a decent rotor doesn't have to be expensive.

    • @JaredHoff
      @JaredHoff  Před 2 měsíci

      You make a lot of good points. This bike is really designed for the person who’s just wants to touch there toes in the e-MTB world, but it needs some upgrades for those, like us, who ride advanced mountain bike trails.

    • @mtbboy1993
      @mtbboy1993 Před 2 měsíci

      @@JaredHoff Upgrades won't fix bad geometry. But if it wasnot for that. Who knows. Welds atleast look decent.

    • @tomolryify
      @tomolryify Před měsícem

      Personally I like the geometry, but the stock bike is not at all good on hills. Great on flats and slight inclines though. Downhill will require an air shock upgrade.

    • @mtbboy1993
      @mtbboy1993 Před měsícem

      @@tomolryify What do you like interspecifically and why? I'm always keen to learn and know why people like this and that when it comes to bikes.

    • @mtbboy1993
      @mtbboy1993 Před měsícem

      @@tomolryify Yes an air fork will be an massive upgrade, not to say that coil forks can't be good. They exist, but for xc, that's not as common. And An ebike should have a beefier fork, like a trail instead of a skinny light flexy xc fork. Due to the added with of the e bike. For an enduro bike or long travel e bike EXT is likely the best as it's ebike approved, not special version needed, But fox has E bike version of 36. But forr this bike a regular 24 might be fine. I don't know. I know SR Suntour makes better air forks, than their junk coil forks. I've been told they are reliable. But I've not tried it. Which fork do you have in mind?

  • @user-tp5mu8tb1u
    @user-tp5mu8tb1u Před 4 měsíci

    I am intrested

    • @JaredHoff
      @JaredHoff  Před 4 měsíci +1

      I think it’s a great e-bike for those looking to get out on the trails, have fun, and not break the bank.

  • @MarvinWestmaas
    @MarvinWestmaas Před 3 měsíci

    Wait... 5 minutes in and I'm laughing my behind off... This thing is all over CZcams, including a video of someone doing some small dirt jumps ( to flat.. so there's that ) .. after four of them, the fork totally failed. Manufacturer response after seeing the video: ow, you should take note of the sticker on the fork: not for jumping / trail use 🤷‍♂
    I mean, even if you would replace the fork you have a frame which has never been tested for trail use since it was never intended for it.
    This is *NOT* a cheap trail capable eMTB. It's a glorified gravel bike which will do great if you only ride on gravel or fireroads. NOT the dh's or single track section.
    Normally I would say: f warranty, go for it! But seeing that fork basically collaps resulting in the the front tire rubbing and locking up, that could easily result in some nasty injuries.
    IANAL and YMMV but I would never trust this on a black

    • @JaredHoff
      @JaredHoff  Před 3 měsíci

      It’s definitely NOT intended for jumps. I stated that in the video. But no fork collapsing for me.
      I see you made a similar video on your channel about a cheap e-bike. Have you tested many bikes?

    • @MarvinWestmaas
      @MarvinWestmaas Před 3 měsíci

      @@JaredHoff Decided to build my own after the Eleglide disaster and having ridden some bikes through the lbs which either were to expensive for what they were in the end.
      Just a bland Giant Talon hardtail where I threw and Tongshen tsdzb2b on.
      Frame is a proven mtb frame which I know can handle what I throw at it and the fork being a budget oriented SR Suntour XCM 120mm air shock while not being the most responsive on the smalls at least will not fail me.
      Still not suited well for anything black / steep, since I am using the same mt200 brakes you're using and those just aren't meant for that ( XC brakes, not trail/dh ). But that's fine, I live in pancake country where my closest trails have a ~40m height difference during a ~40km loop so mt200's are fine for my usage.
      Besides from some of the jumps/drops and probably the rock garden, I think this review bike would probably handle my local trails quite well, and taking the chicken run's to avoid those features. Which means losing out of a lot of the fun of riding the courses, but it will get out out into nature and biking so that's great!
      I just get really worried when I see people comment they compare this bike with actual eMTB's from Trek for instance and complaining they are six times as expensive...
      That's without a doubt true, but also because Trek actually makes eMTB's.
      This thing isn't. It's shaped like one, and it wants to be one, but it wasn't made to be one. And I fear some people will learn that the hard way if they consider this bike to be trail capable 'out of the box' ( or even upgraded, I wouldn't trust the frame, stronger forks would just move the expected point of failure to the headset itself ).
      If people want a cheap entry level eMTB the best into that is building your own. The only downside are some restrictions on frames you can use depending on which brand motor you go with ( Tongshen / CYC or even Bafang even while I strongly oppose calling anything without a torque sensor as a suitable mtb drivetrain enhancement ). Yes, you will end up with a downtube battery instead of a frame mounted ( internal ) one, and yes this is more vulnerable if you crash... solution is not crashing, and making sure you battery is as secure as possible ( I have straps around my downtube and battery to help the mounting bolts and prevent any and all movement even if I crash ). But this also makes upgrading / replacing down the line non trivial, unlike integrated batteries where you have to hope the manufacturer continues making them in the exact same form factor.
      Decent second hand mtb + motor/controller + battery = always cheaper as buying an emtb 'as is'. And it's a lot of fun to build imo :)

  • @FrankenRick
    @FrankenRick Před 4 měsíci +2

    Nice review man awesome to see how it handles up north! 🤙🏼 I’ve got some good testing on my personal Summit 1 and it’s surprised me how well it handled black single track down here in FL for a value hardtail e-bike. I got video on my channel if you want to check it out!

    • @JaredHoff
      @JaredHoff  Před 4 měsíci

      I’ll definitely check out your video. I had so much fun riding this bike 👍

  • @MilitaryVet
    @MilitaryVet Před 4 měsíci

    That drop at the end was sketchy!

  • @aaronclark280
    @aaronclark280 Před měsícem

    That bike is not a Class 1,2,or 3 ebike because its throttle and high speed….making it a e-motorcycle and not legal on most all mountain e-bike trails other than those allowing dirt bikes and OHVs. You should stop advertising things like this as mountain bikes for trails since few allow motorcycles. Plus you’re likely riding illegally here. Most trails are not allowing these. Don’t compare this to a Trek or a Specialized as those are all Class 1. It’s misleading.

    • @JaredHoff
      @JaredHoff  Před měsícem

      @@aaronclark280 the bike limits your speed when pedal assist and you can remove the throttle to make it a class 1. I rode it on the trails with other e-bike riders on Trek and Specialized and they were keeping up with me fine. It’s definitely not a dirt bike.

    • @aaronclark280
      @aaronclark280 Před měsícem

      I understand the classes but the fact that it’s “multi-class” means it’s technically out of class /non compliant with any one class and therefore not an ebike but rather a motorcycle by legal definition….weak as it may be. And it’s capable of going 28mph so that’s not C1. Just saying that most people won’t know or care and that leads to illegal use and ultimately public backlash against ALL MTBers. We all lose. At least make a disclaimer statement about the technicality.

  • @AverageDadMTB3
    @AverageDadMTB3 Před 3 měsíci

    Aka you don’t want to ride this on trail and you simply don’t want to buy this bike

  • @philebike
    @philebike Před 3 měsíci

    Still expensive

  • @selwynparker5793
    @selwynparker5793 Před 3 měsíci

    Upgrade nothing.
    Buy a better bike.