Weird Tank Prototypes
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- čas přidán 5. 06. 2020
- Who doesn't love looking at weird, totally nonfunctional vehicle designs? I'm known for doing this with fictional tanks, but for this video I figured I'd take a look at actual tank prototypes / designs that are pretty strange. In this video I'll take a look at the Hen and Chick, Object 490, ELKE, and TV-8.
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Nice video but, that 0:30 shot dude...
Cool guys don't look at explosions
Fire and forget like a boss
How about some “historically accurate vehicles” for aircraft? It might be a cool idea...
Edit: punctuation
Yeah, the Typhoon is known to set its own engine blaze when starting
*screams in F7U Cutlass not being able to take off*
The first rank made me remember the tank from halo idkkkkkkk
*Screams in Wyvern doing a flameout from firewalling*
*screams in many late-war Japanese aircraft having self-sealing fuel tanks*
Chrysler: Puts the engine in the turret and makes the turret float
U.S. Army: *confused screaming*
"Oh, great, we are both the Navy and the Marines now."
"confused scream" what idiotic meme...
@@the_bane_of_all_anti_furry what an idiodic comment and person
@@the_bane_of_all_anti_furry before you criticize someone’s intelligence, maybe you should go to back school because you clearly didn’t pay attention in Grammar class
I never knew about the Soviet design in this video. And I enjoyed watching this video alot. The Hen and Chick was certainly an intriguing design.
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@@floppa4335 what
You can get the Obj 490 in Armored Warfare. It's a Tier 10 Premium. Pretty fun to play
It was only a matter of time.....
"Chick" is literally Wiesel AWC.
As we are at it, there existed a prototype version of the Wiesel 1 with a " 30 mm caseless ammunition recoilless revolver cannon". The projectiles muzzle energy was presumably higher than that of the A10 Thunderbolt 2 gatling gun.
I want this vehicle in warthunder so badly :D.
Yes, that's what I thought too.
In 2003 we took a ride with Wiesel through the woods. It was deadly in the woods.
@@mandernachluca3774 Wiesels with the TOW would basically be the new ASU-57. Tiny but deadly.
I like that concept of the modular tank
the first one (hen and chick) got some sense behind him: having standard little units that could be added together to form a bigger unit if needed, but dismanteled once again into multiple small ones when need to transport all of it. i personally find the concept/basic idea quite clever and pragmatical
Sounds like a GI Joe toy.
It was just a bad attempt to make an airmobile tank though. The USAF bought C-5 and the US Army hasn't looked back since.
So like Japanese mecha but less exciting
Q
[casual 279 slaughter montage]
0:07 "Sir! It's a radiation sign. Sir!"
Imagine, one shot, multy kill
Nuclear tank ladies and gentlements
And th object 490 is something you can only find i a metal gear game
Only in a metal gear game eh?
Ever hear of armored warfare?
@@GSC-Operator-chan beat me to it lol
It’s in armored warfare as of now, and it’s debatably one of the best vehicles in the game.
Romeo Victor not anymore because there is more and more roof-hitting missile and its firing rate is really a pain for me
Actually no vehicle in the metal gear serious looks like object490，its design is more close to some Gundam or command and conquer vehicles
What would a tank designed to operate on the moon be like, given that there's no air for internal combustion or cooling, very low gravity, and a weak, cratered regolith surface that provides concealment more than cover? What sort of ammunition and weapons would be used on the moon?
If I were to design a moon tank, it would probably be something like a hovercraft with a recoilless rifle. That being said, I'm an idiot, so what do I know?
the vacuum would negatively affect the RR surely.
@@matthiuskoenig3378 I would think it would actually be better, being rocket based and all. Mostly because it wouldn't send your tank off in the other direction though
Realistically the idea of a moon tank is kinda infeasible. Tanks are extremely heavy and moving stuff to space is very expensive. If you could move mass cheaply and easily you could probably have much more effective ways of waging “space war”.
@@jonathanpfeffer3716 yeah but i think this is talking about a reality were people already Live on the moon and can build stuff there with the moons resources.
Object 490 in the thumbnail is like "wut you talking about me?"
Funnily enough, Obj 490 got Evgeny fired from KMDB (it's more complicated than that TBF).
The video author says it had to do with cost but that's not true, it was mostly because the tank was seen as inferior in gun depression and a sort of "ultimate T-80" (i.e. biggest gun in smallest/shortest package) by the Armor Directorate [the Soviet equivalent of the American Tank and Automotive Command]. The Soviet Army at this point (~1980) was no longer interested in reducing crew sizes (they had just finished a human factors study that showed that T-64 was much harder to maintain with three crewmen than T-62 was) or the size of the tank: they were willing to accept a bigger tank if it meant it would be easier to maintain with conscript crews. 490 had two crewmen and the division of labor in combat was unknown (according to the Armor Directorate, it would have been unsatisfactory or something) while maintenance would have been even harder.
His colleagues tank, Obj 490A, was much more conventional in layout, had a "conventional" three-man crew, and had actually usable gun depression. 490A looked like a cross between the US Army's Stryker MGS and the T-80, eventually became Boxer, which became the T-95, which became the Ukrainian main battle tank prototype Nona, which drove around some field in Ukraine in 2001-2002 and shot about 40 rounds of 152mm. Nona still lives at KMDB IIRC and a lot of the technology from that tank was used in BM-Oplot. Namely the ERA, engine vectronics, and optronics. Regardless, the human factors won, and that's why 490A got chosen over 490.
So ultimately it came down to ergonomics and the ability of the crew to fight in combat, not cost. The Soviets would have thrown any amount of money at the tank at this point. The collapse didn't begin in earnest until around 1986 anyway.
There's a book by one of the engineers involved in 490 called The Last Charge of the Soviet Tank Engineers (or similar) that talks about it. In it, Evgeny Morozov comes off as a dick and actively tries to sabotage the 490A by promoting his 490 internally, against the wishes of both the Armor Directorate and his actual boss, and eventually gets fired for it. The engineer who wrote the book lives in Kharkiv now and last I heard he's still salty as hell that Putin hasn't liberated him from the Ukrainian Maiden Nazis or something, but he'd be in his late 80's or something now so he might be dead.
@@SecuR0M"no longer interested in reducing crew sizes" but the soviets had a separate maintenance platoon in every battalion, a separate maintenance company in every regiment and a separate maintenance battalion in every division, which performed routine and front line vehicle maintenance, the size of the vehicle's crew shouldn't and didn't matter to the soviets for vehicle maintenance. source:
Soviet Army Operations, United States. Army Intelligence and Threat Analysis Center, The Center, 1983.
which itself sited the 1976 soviet army operations manual
unless this changed (which i have not seen so far, but i am no expert) it seems unlikely they would consider it an issue. then again internal space being smaller would hamper separate maintenance crews aswell.
also the Object 477A1 'Nota' was a joint Ukrainian-Russian Fed project not just a Ukrainian one. which i think is what you mean by 'Nona' (which was a soviet airborne vehicle) and the T-95 (object 195) is an unrelated project [in terms of design] designed by Uralvagonzavod (Designers of T-72 and T-62) not Kharkov (Designers of T-64, and object 490A and object 477)
thats not a obj 490 its the aw version of a obj 490. the real one looked way different
Kat Tsun sorry，do you have any more information about E.A. Morozov？What's his relationship with Alexander Morozov？
The 490b actually did bring to my attention the entire 490 series. As a conworld builder, having prototype vehicles to draw from helps.
The hen and chick design was really interesting. cute little tank or big meaty tank and if the hen turret module was damaged, you could re-use the propulsion modules for chicks.
meanwhile in wargaming-
*spongebob meme*
"write this down!"
reefta we already got the 279 (2) can’t wait to get the regular 279 aka Stalin’s UFO
"cannonball ATGM" sorry what?
Looked it up. It was abandoned for being too expensive, probably because of the secondary nozzles that were needed for steering and stabilizing it.
I knew two of the tanks, so you did a good job
Object 490 is my favourite tank, I wish it could of have been produced 😢
It will be both the nightmare of NATO tank and Soviet field Engineers
I wonder they can make it now because of better technology and would be easier to produce
Have you seen the T14? It's almost the same thing.
@@Kyle-gw6qp no but I will look into it
@@TgamerBio5529 it's the newest ever tank revealed in 2000 and something.
The intro is me when War Thunder makes an update
Add a tank called chick, that when it cats fire, the crew shouts "that chick is hot"
I love Dance of the Crpytek. That soundtrack is amazing
"Hen and Chick" looks like something that came from Metal Slug
Congratulations on 70k spookston! I originally came here via the "experiences" series, and I'm so glad that I discovered this channel. Keep it up!
Great stuff man, love your content!
Can you install TV-8 turret with atomic reactor onto Object 279 hull that was designed to maximize survivability in case of atomic weaponry being used in vicinity to get ultimate derpy "atomic age" tank?
Seens like a new Fallout tank
Sooo 2 reactors?
The TV-8 was designed to fire nuclear weapons from it's 90mm gun the hull of the turret is designed to survive the shockwave of the nuclear blast.
Bruh... the tv-8 is the word "derp" made into a vehicle.
@@CreepSoldier yep. And indeed Bethesda should have taken those two as inspirations.
I like how none of your videos are longer than ten minutes. You always get straight to the point when you talk. That's nice.
Nice opening sound bite... quite fitting considering the subject material. I thoroughly enjoy these vids! Keep up the good work!
the intro tank wtf loooool
Chrysler TV-8 amphibious tank. Massive lols
Have you considered talking about the Lowe?
It’s a very interesting German design, in both its look and its story. The fact it went through so many redesigns (VK.70-01, VK.72-01k, etc), and evidently got far enough in its design process that it was given the Panzer VII designation seems like a cool story to tell.
I have to keep coming back for the start of the vid . Great stuff !
FORD: "witness the American Car of the Future, the nuclear-powered NUCLEON!"
CHRYSLER: *cracks knuckles* "siddown boy"
Really nice, can't wait for more videos.
So hen and chick was probably the inspiration for the Halo Scorpion tank, cool.
Never so much as heard mention of the Hen and Chick, and honestly it's hard to say if it's weirder than the TV-8 or not.
Never knew these existed,cool vid btw
I haven't even heard of most of these. Also I really enjoyed this nice work
Nice video. Did not know about the hen and chick tanks.
Another issue that the 490B (that specific model you showed in the vid as there were other designs of the 490 that looked vastly different and more akin to traditional tank design) was outside of hulldown, the tanks gun had very very poor elevation that would make it difficult to shokt a target down range and was unable fo shoot at targets behind it
Great video, there were tanks i've never seen before.
I never knew about the “Hen and Chick” concept. Very neat!
Object 490 looks oddly similar like YMT-05 Hildolfr lmao
Well both have big guns and extra sets of tracks.
Yes！Finally someone mention it！
Lindybeige just did a video on weird tank designs (although not these exact same ones) and I'm liking this inundation of prototypes from my preferred channels of late.
My favorite of the ones mentioned in the video is probably the elke. I don't know why but the few vehicles that do elevate their guns and weaponry above the hull have always interested me. Also I'm a sucker for the sheridan in general, which makes it seem even cooler to me that they would propose to use the sheridans hull.
i got to say you did great at making a original strange tanks video, you did the thing considered evil by most tank CZcamsrs, you only talked about American and soviet coldwar tanks. the rule with tank CZcamsrs seem to be make the same video as everyone else just swap the footage around and maybe add a different song and the main rule is to only post about german tanks and dear god they cannot absolutely not bring up the successful tanks like panzer 1-4 and the stugs
Excellent video. Would you consider making one about specialised tanks such as AA tanks (ostwind, centaur), anti-infantry (KV-8, Sherman crocodile) and bunker-busters (KV-2, Churchill AVRE)? Do you think they are useful or just too situational? Would or have they a modern application and potential future development?
Beside "hen and chick" tank, i knew about the other three ^^, nice video btw
"Tried to stay away from Object 279" except that that was the tank in the background for most of the video.
You have to make a video "Everything wrong with" about the fast and furious 6 tank and the 1st Transformers movie tank, its called devastator if im not wrong
And maybe GTA V vehicles???
The GTA V military vehicles are based on RL models - the Rhino tank is a Leopard 2A4 as example
That’s brawn, not devastator
A random Halo dude No it’s called Brawl
The Object 490 would've been such a cool vehicle if it made it into production
Definitely didn’t know about the elke . The rest of them I did. Thanks
the game play is very impressive - those shots were on the money!
What I really love about the oddball late 80s Soviet projects is that they they all actually performed so well that you can see their DNA in all sorts of projects currently looked at as the most advanced in the world. Examples being the T-14 tracing lineage back to the Object 490 and the F-22 and F-35 borrowing a lot from the Yak-41.
>and the F-22 and F-35 borrowing a lot from the Yak-41.
No, they don't. At most F-35 borrowed the flight data of Yak-41. F-22 didn't even that since it's not short takeoff plane
The object 490 you show in the video is the 490B 'Belka' (squirel) in english
There are several variants of the object 490, and even some 'sub variants'.
The object 490(b) in the video, is the 3th variant of the 490B.
The 490B is probably the most heavily armored tank ever designed, with protection levels being about 1200-2500mm depending on the ammunition.
do a part 2 of this i would like to see what else weird prototypes were proposed
“All will fear my giant nuke-tank..”
"it'll probably be something like 'wierd tank prototypes'"
*you're goddamn right*
Ever thought of looking at older designs, they get pretty crazy. Like the "Tumbleweed", just a giant ball.
Very good video, thank you! :))))
Object 490 is what I had no idea about so thanks m8
You don't know about vast russian tank projects actually. About chinese also. There's many interesting exemplars
Oh, man. It'd be cool to see a fictional setting try to make some of these make sense in the context of their worlds. They are certainly distinctive designs. =P
You should cover the tanks from Supreme Commander, they're absolutely gigantic, and each faction has a unique style.
UEF: The generic blocky Sci-fi human analogues, with bulky and durable tanks
Cybran: Very angular tanks, utilising laser weaponry and has an amphibious tank that travels along the bottom of the ocean and fires torpedoes.
Aeon: Basically Covenant vehicles, but some have some interesting characteristics, with the T2 heavy tank 'obsidian' being essentially a direct-fire wraith on tracks.
But not to forget
Ships with fucking legs
How about a video on the most influential tanks? Take the Carden Loyd tankette whos design lead to many tanks being developed based off it all around the world; Universal Carrier, Vickers Light Tanks, L3/33 & 35, Te-Ke 94 and 97, Škoda MU-4, TKS, T-27, Renault UE, and Panzer 1.
You should have more subs.
Yes please would love this idea
That Hen and Chick might have made a kick ass artillery system or even an ADA one.
Maybe you could do a video about the promissing and successfully operating tanks, that didn't go into mass production for some reasons? For example Object 292 - a T-80 hull with modernized loading mechanism and modified turret to house a 152 smooth-bore gun and 16 round carousel magazine.
Never heard of the Hen and Chick before, weird but interesting as hell, kinda wish there was at least a mock-up.
The Hen & Chick looks more like a Sci-fi Tank than most of the fictional vehicles you've reviewed
Now I wish they would have made one test unit.
that's a mighty fine looking skin on the Object 279
Obj 490 is just stridsvagn-103 with extra steps
Every time I think I've seen everything tank design engineers have to offer...something even weirder shows up
If you ever make a sequel to this, please cover the UDES XX-20, of which a rudimentary version was built and trialed.
With Command & Conquer and Red Alert: Remastered out it would be nice to see a video analyzing the tanks present in those two games.
Nice vid. Very good.
Did you ever hear about the Tank 'Aureole' i Played the Tank in the PS1 game 'Panzer Front'
Would love to see a separate video on the cannonball atgm
You should cover the Rhino tank from GTA. Since the appearance of the tank varies depending on the game, you should cover it in multiple videos.
Huh! Now I know where Hasbro came up with the idea for the Cobra Maggot; The Hen & Chick concept from the Astron Project! They simplified it a bit but you can see it's influence on the toy maker's design. The Elke's gun design(?) definitely played a role on the G.I. Joe Mauler M.B.T. - though it didn't elevate like this. (The movie Cobra Hiss was closer in that regard.)
TV-8 looks like it's about to evolve into a Martian tripod. Speaking of which... what is your opinion on Martian Tripod-style mech designs? Overly tall with narrow but stiff and nearly inert spindles for the lower legs, big feet that are not really propulsive but mostly to reduce ground pressure, very large height, and all of the armor concentrated at the turret/hull and hip areas?
Has Spookston ever looked into Spider Tank style sci fi vehicles?
I see them as far more plausible than humanoid mech designs.
i am not sure if i should be sad or happy that i knew about all of these already...
Hey the T14 video is in the “Everything wrong with” playlist. Also please make the redesign videos a separate playlist or integrated with the former.
We need more! We want more! Now get us more!
Was the object actually built as a prototype? Because that would be an awesome vehicle to see in the game.
The only one in the list that I’ve never heard of was the “Hen and Chick” tank
*World of Tanks wants to know your location*
New tier 8 premiums coming up!
hey can you please cover the Mobile tank units from Universal Century Gundam like the Hildolfr, Guntank( all one year war variants), Loto and Guntank R44?
There's that prototype of an anti-air vehicle made by Russia that I kept forgetting the name of much to my dismay. It's basically a tank with its main gun removed and with heavy machine guns placed on the side of the turrets.
You speak about helicopters being, essentially, flying tanks, are there any designs that are more genuinely tank-like? More armor, larger gun, that kind of thing?
the successors to the Hind come to mind; the Apache is more like a flying tank destroyer and the Hind itself a flying IFV, but its successors ditched transport capacity to be faster, meaner, and *even more* armored.
That outro sounds alot like Halo 3 ODST music when u are in the city by your self
That quad track is still more practical than the scorpion...
I guess Hen and Chick tanks is where Westwood got the idea for it's Mammoth Tank, Apocalypse Tank and Overload Tank.
its design is more close to the Scrin Mechapede
Actually didn't know about the Hen and Chick, but it reminds me a lot of the Superheavy Semi-Trailer Tank that was designed in 1945
Another fun prototype like these is the VTS1 built by the German army, which actually is still around
How would the TV-8 turret elevate if it’s waterproof? And what would happen if you tried to turn while floating?
2:00 Yea but articulated tanks do have lower ground friction , allowing for better turning when designing longer vehicles ,wich in that case , would be usefull
All of this stuff is the most weird I seen in the world
good vid
could you make a video about some rather unknown tanks? like the L-120 ''rikstanken'' or the Maresal tank destroyer.
What are your opinions on the Kranvagn Project? What are your thoughts about it? Im just curious.
What about you review Empire Earth's future tanks and robots for the next EWW episode
@spookston, you should do a everything wrong with vehicles from movies, such as XXX state of the union. In that movie they had an sci-fi looking abrams. This tank was also used in transformers 2007 where it was modified in a way that made it look more like a challenger 2