DEVELOPING YOUR ARM SPEED // DISC GOLF 101

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  • čas přidán 27. 08. 2024
  • #discgolf #technique #tutorial #throwing #lesson
    This week: developing your arm speed!
    MY tips and tricks for a faster throw…..
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    Aloha,
    Michael

Komentáře • 46

  • @JSlizzo
    @JSlizzo Před rokem +1

    I’ve never played serious enough to go do field work . I started recently and it’s really helped . I’m not at 400 yet. I CAN throw 400 , but I want my 400 to feel like my current smooth 325-350. I’ve definitely noticed that just by going to a measured athletic field and throwing discs back and forth, I’ve gained arm speed. Now the 300-350 shot is an easy , smooth form shot vs before I felt like I was going to hurt something.

    • @JSlizzo
      @JSlizzo Před rokem

      And I just want to add that I play with many people on a league that ‘throw 400’, but when I bring them over to the football field they struggle with 300 . 😂

    • @DiscGolf101
      @DiscGolf101  Před rokem +1

      Aloha JSlizzo, I have always been a field throw. I like watching the disc rip threw the air, very peaceful. But I have been playing disc 17 years. I have played lots on the course. From 4 to 6 rounds a week. Thing is to keep it fun . I throw more today just to keep my arm stretched out for playing the course. Aloha Michael

  • @bethelbarrett5867
    @bethelbarrett5867 Před rokem +1

    Ahhh . Foot fault on that last throw. Lol So, do you train arm speed via other methods or have any ideas on such ? Like throwing heavier objects, band exercises, etc…. Really appreciate you and your channel. You are making positive changes in our sport.

    • @DiscGolf101
      @DiscGolf101  Před rokem +2

      Aloha bethelbarrett5867, Back when I learned to throw I had a nice x-step run up. I played in my first tournament . Are up country course which is on a mountain side, up hill, down hill, off camber throws. I tought myself to throw over 400 feet but from a run up x-step. I lost so much power on my throws, the angels of the hills made it really hard to run up and throw. So after that tournament ( I took 3 rd place as a beginner playing advanced) I went to throwing with no run up , just a step and throw and threw the years, I know can push out to 400. That is why I concentrate so much on my arm speed because my body just needs to be able to balance on the off angles of the shots. Down hill, up hill , on side of hill are all different body angles then flat ground. But the only why to get better is practice more repetition and understanding what you are trying to do and how to fix mistakes . Aloha Michael That last one I was out of breath LOL getting old

  • @triplespace007
    @triplespace007 Před měsícem

    Dang just found this off google and expected it to be a 2010 video.

    • @DiscGolf101
      @DiscGolf101  Před měsícem

      Aloha triplespace, Ya the early years of filming. Aloha Michael

  • @Joecuzzi
    @Joecuzzi Před 11 měsíci

    People are critiquing his form too much. This video is for arm speed. Notice how it's not called Perfect Form Lol. If you want perfect form, getting it from watching youtube videos may take much longer than 1 on 1 with a professional. It took me about 5 years to go from hitting a golf ball 200 yards to 250 yards and about 1 hour with a coach to go from 250 yards to 300 yards.

    • @DiscGolf101
      @DiscGolf101  Před 11 měsíci +3

      Aloha Joseph, Thanks for writing. Ya I always look at form as your own touch. I like to stay low, bent leg, pull arm as hard as possible. I might not look supper smooth when throwing hard but I can get the disc where I need it to be very accurately. When I watch the pros they all have their own style of throwing. From Paul, to Ricky, to Calvin to Big Jerm. But they all have the same foundation that they work off of. But like you said sometimes having someone watch helps. they might catch something or point something out you never thought about, and all of a sudden things click for you. That is why I try to put out as detailed videos as I can from my own experiences to help people learn to throw better. Aloha Michael

  • @push0rdie
    @push0rdie Před rokem +5

    Quite a late weightshift, your left foot rises from the ground just when you're about to release the disc, that's too late. One thing that all professionals that throw far have in common, when their plant foot is starting to touch the ground, their rear foot is coming up. Having no follow through in your throw seems like a dangerous throw.

    • @DiscGolf101
      @DiscGolf101  Před rokem

      Aloha PushOrdie, Thanks for message. So about me , been playing disc 16 years, I can throw over 400 +. I have had this question before way my leg stays behind. So I made a video talking about why , it is called "What Does The Back Leg Do " . Watch that video very in depth video with footage of Paul, Calvin, Eagle and Simon all throwing with there legs behind on there hyzer throws. Just like I do, and how there legs come around when they throw a force over, just like I do. When throwing the hyzer or flat your balance is better, head is on top. When my head ends up over my front leg when I throw all my weight has transferred, back leg doesn't need to come around. But all i am really concerned about is getting weight onto front leg. That I can control timing is going to be off and on but weight always needs to be on front leg. The video at end of my throw is also just a 1/4 power . Just throwing easy over camera for video not throwing hard. But I stay low when I throw hard I don't come up on a hard throw. Aloha Michael

    • @push0rdie
      @push0rdie Před rokem +2

      ​@@DiscGolf101 I can also throw over 400 feet, I can at times throw 450 feet also. Even though I can throw this distance, it doesn’t mean I’m flawless and have lots of flaws actually. I wish I could be more consistent.
      I don’t think you understand what the back leg does. The left side of the body is what creates the power, the right of the body is what release the power. In your throws you’re only getting power from your right side, that’s power, but it’s not maximum power. I guess you get power from a run-up also, but that’s about it. You don't have a proper weightshift.
      Beginners are typical players that only use powers on the right side. You transfer weight late, you have already thrown the disc before you deliver the weight. All the professionals that you are showing, all of them are weightless on their rear foot before the throw "starts". They land on their plant foot, transfer weight and the throws starts.
      On the left photo of Eagle, Eagle is weightless on his left foot and have pushed the weight forward. Eagle weightshift is what pushes his body and disc forward.
      The photo of you, it talks for itself. You’re not weightless on your rear foot, you’re not weightless on the second picture either.
      i.ibb.co/kchjSrP/weightshift.jpg

    • @DiscGolf101
      @DiscGolf101  Před rokem

      @@push0rdie Aloha Mikal , Thanks for watching and message. So your definition of the throw I don't teach , ( just wondering are you a hip first thrower, or upper body rotation? ) I am a, your hips down to your feet are the base of a spring that your upper body torque agents to throw the disc. From holding your breath it ties your legs to your hips and shoulders to make the throw. Your feet and hips stay perpendicular to the throw and it is the rotation of the upper body that throws the disc. Shoulders need to rotate up, not around to make the throw. My back leg on the ground has no weight in it , I can lift it if I wanted but I really pay no attention to it. As long as my head is over my front leg all my weight has transferred to front leg.Also remember we are talking about a hyzer or a flat shot. You might think I didn't transfer my weight but I can lift my leg after I release the disc there is no weight in it. I have videos of pros throwing, and on a hyzer or flat shot they are all dragging there back leg. But thanks for message Aloha Michael.

    • @push0rdie
      @push0rdie Před rokem +2

      @@DiscGolf101 I believe that all the energy comes from ground up, I’m a hip guy however. I don’t agree with you on how a weightshift works however, I can agree that you have some kinda weightshift, but you don’t have a weightshift that will follow the disc. You have a weightshift that will follow those pink arrows that I drew on the picture, I’m talking about the picture where you are up against Eagle. This type of weightshift has nothing do with angles you release the disc on. I wouldn't call this a weightshift, but you're kinda correct. It is a weightshift, but you don't transfer from left side of the body to the right side.
      You have a “weightshift”, but not a weightshift that will follow the disc. Your weightshift vanish into nothing.
      If you compare yourself against all the top pros, you will not see anyone having a weightshift the way you do it. Pros weightshift from rear side to front side. You can tell how quickly their left foot gets weightless, how their left knee "rotates" in place like I drew on the picture. They don't force left knee to rotate, it happens because of their weightshift.
      i.ibb.co/kchjSrP/weightshift.jpg
      Anyways, thanks for the discussion. Have a good day.

    • @DiscGolf101
      @DiscGolf101  Před rokem

      @@push0rdie Aloha , Weight shift to front leg. All i can go by is my results of my throwing distance and disc that I throw. I throw Destroyers, Excalibur, Firebirds, T-Bird, Eagle, Gator, Cayman, Pig. All my disc are over stable. My longest throws i have pushed out to 435 feet only 15 feet off the ground. I have noticed that people are making videos of there throwing , but they are always throwing understable disc for there max distance. Why can't they throw a Destroyer 435 feet. There is a big difference between throwing a Destroyer 400 plus and throwing a understable negative 3 disc with lots of glide. Just pointing out that my form works for me and the few tournaments I have played in the advanced / expert I have ( 2 ) first, ( 1) second and (2) third places on a 4 day tournament . I am doing something correct. Been fun talking. Take care. Remember it's all about having fun playing disc golf. Aloha Michael .

  • @wilfredoriverajr.
    @wilfredoriverajr. Před rokem

    yes,yes!

  • @markhumphrey8894
    @markhumphrey8894 Před rokem

    I've sort of recently discovered what your saying. I've noticed how the pros and yourself are leaving your back leg back and throwing against the braced leg. You throw fast against the braced leg. I was bringing my back leg around as I was throwing. The leg should not come around until the disc down the fairway.
    Thanks for really studying this game.

    • @DiscGolf101
      @DiscGolf101  Před rokem +2

      Aloha markhumphrey8894, Yes don't bring the back leg around on a flat shot or a hyzer shot . Stay low, brace off that front leg and you will get a nice release of disc. You will notice with that front leg braced your upper body will pull threw faster from the tension of the leg. But that is for a hard throw. When doing a up shot it is ok to let the body open up on the throw because you are throwing slower. I have video called What Does The Back Leg Do. Watch . Thanks for message Aloha Michael

  • @kylenewberry8598
    @kylenewberry8598 Před 8 měsíci

    Does this apply to forehand as well? I can only putt with my backhand only power with no control or control with no power.

    • @DiscGolf101
      @DiscGolf101  Před 8 měsíci

      Aloha Kylenewberry, For a forehand throw, I like throwing a flick (stand still shot) to strengthen my hand and wrist to throw disc. I practice pushing with my fingers under the rim and pushing with my wrist. Because it is easy to add the run in . But the forehand release is the same as the flick .
      The back hand takes some time dialing in your head stays on top so you can control the disc. Most of the time you throw real hard you pole yourself out of your stance. Head on top shoulders rotate up release. Just practice staying down with the hard back hand throws don't come out of throw. Keep your eyes looking down at the ground on release of the disc this should help keep head down also keep a bent in your legs dont straighten fron leg. Aloha Michael

  • @kerose
    @kerose Před rokem

    i've always seen though that your release angle should be determined by your body. so, it's seems like if i was bent over i'd be throwing everything on hyzer....?? Maybe that's been the problem for this newbie.. cuz i only ever started leaning over when trying to throw hyzer flips and they were my straightest and best throws.. otherwise, i'm not only prove to grip lock.. but most often just throwing very nose up...

    • @DiscGolf101
      @DiscGolf101  Před rokem +2

      Aloha Kerose, Thanks for taking the time to wright a message. The hardest throw is a straight throw. A little to up right you grip lock it. Then not up enough you throw a hyzer. That is why most pros choose to throw a hyzer flip to flat. Safer way to get disc flat on a hard throw. So to get disc out on a flat shot you need to release the disc higher up on your chest. But you still need your shoulders to rotate up on the throw. Not flat or you grip lock it. So a hyzer is below your chest and just up below the arm pits is a flat shot. I have a video called "Throwing Flat". Aloha Michael

  • @OkieTradez
    @OkieTradez Před rokem

    how does one be that bent over and throw a flat shot also if one threw an over stable disc that bent over even into a headwind its not flipping up flat and cant hyzer flip into headwinds idc what anyone says

    • @DiscGolf101
      @DiscGolf101  Před rokem

      Aloha Okie Tradez, Sorry for late reply. Throwing straight still need head on top shoulders rotate up. You want to stand up straighter, but not straight up. Need a little bend and you want to release disc higher up on chest also. This will give you a flat shot. But I would rather make a mistake and throw a hyzer then flip disc and throw a anhyzer. I also throw with a good lean forward weight on front foot. That is why I bend over so much. But I still have a very nice flat throw. Aloha Michael

  • @thompson222
    @thompson222 Před rokem

    How good does your forehand fly?

    • @thompson222
      @thompson222 Před rokem

      My average backhand shot is 300ft, and with forehand is 260-270ft(still throwing bit nose up fore)
      Max distance is about 330ft for fore driver, and BH putter 337ft, BH driver 370ft
      Just recently got rid of throwing nose up with BH with improving foot work, thats when I threw that BH putter distance record. I've been playing for 3 months
      On the wooded course my avg throws are less further ofc, theres alot of wooded courses here which is nice

    • @DiscGolf101
      @DiscGolf101  Před rokem +1

      Aloha Thompson, Your throwing distances are really good. Keep it up. For keeping the nose of disc down watch my video on "Thumb up vs Thumb down". I find keeping Thumb up high it is easier to keep my wrist down. Then throwing with a flat thumb. With a flat Thumb I find it harder to push nose of disc down. Keep up with your throwing you will be at 400 in no time. Aloha Michael

    • @DiscGolf101
      @DiscGolf101  Před rokem +1

      Aloha Thompson, my forehand is prity good. I have the confidence to use it on all throws needed. I can put my destroyers out past 350 prity easy. I find myself throwing more forehand flicks because I play in the trees. I find the flick works very good in the trees. I practice my forehand throwing a lot. Aloha Michael

    • @thompson222
      @thompson222 Před rokem

      @@DiscGolf101 Thank u Michael. Yes I will check your video!! I just last week learned how to engage my hips and core and it instantly fixed throwing nose up for me !
      I like using fore for flick shots too, they are pretty accurate nowadays for me. Courses in my are heavily wooded so I have had to learn flick shots in the forest fast since I used to be always in middle of trees
      Thanks for your tips Michael!!

    • @thompson222
      @thompson222 Před rokem

      @@DiscGolf101 ps can I ask video request since U said u throw 350ft fore pretty easily? Fore video for angle control and I cant absolutely make my midranges fly with fore, they always turn into a roller like they would be -5 stability, they are not! Can throw putter fore and driver fore but midranges dont succeed never. Flicks with midrange works fine tho!

  • @Phaedrus27
    @Phaedrus27 Před 2 měsíci

    This is could’ve been a two minute video

    • @DiscGolf101
      @DiscGolf101  Před 2 měsíci

      Aloha Phaedrus , Well I hope the video helped you with your throwing. Sorry about the 9:40 video. Thanks for watching. Aloha Michael

  • @stevekuntz3072
    @stevekuntz3072 Před 8 měsíci

    Drink every time he says "here" and see if you can make it to the end.

    • @DiscGolf101
      @DiscGolf101  Před 8 měsíci +1

      Aloha Steve, Remember don't drink and drive. Aloha Michael

    • @pergrundtman608
      @pergrundtman608 Před měsícem +1

      We are doing it right now on a ferry to Finland! All love ❤️

    • @DiscGolf101
      @DiscGolf101  Před měsícem +1

      Aloha pergrundtman, "Here." Have a good time." Here". Finland that "here" sounds fun."here" take care Aloha "here" Michael. lol

  • @dank.4495
    @dank.4495 Před rokem

    No follow thru… 😐

    • @DiscGolf101
      @DiscGolf101  Před rokem

      Aloha dank4495, I had a very nice fallow thru on video. I think it is impossible to not have a fallow threw.The premise of the video was to encourage people to try to throw harder, pull the arm faster that's what it takes to throw the disc farther. That is all I practice and it took me 6 month and I was throwing 400 when I learned. Aloha Michael

  • @ciromassa7322
    @ciromassa7322 Před rokem

    400!!! Not with that form!

    • @DiscGolf101
      @DiscGolf101  Před rokem

      Aloha, 400 +, actually... I throw Destroyer over 400 . My form works very good. Ive been playing for 17 years now and have played a few tournaments (Advance / Expert class. 2 first 1 second and 2 thirds.)
      But ultimately, all throwing forms need to be your own . You cannot throw someone else's form. But the fundamentals of the throw are all the same.
      Hope you're well. Michael

    • @ciromassa7322
      @ciromassa7322 Před 11 měsíci

      I don't doubt you but it's hard to believe you throw 400ft + with your form. You do many things differently than all the coach's I know. Prove me wrong and let's c your throw unedited.

    • @DiscGolf101
      @DiscGolf101  Před 11 měsíci

      @@ciromassa7322 Aloha. My form, that is a good question. Simply, my form is very to the point and I have spent years throwing out on the fields to perfect my form and throw over 400 consistenly. This is why my videos are so broken down and to the point on how to throw. Proof of my throwing ability is in my videos but I also don't really need my ego stroked making up how far I can throw. With my tournament wins I obviously know how to throw the disc very accurately.
      I was wondering why do these other guys teaching how to throw only throw understable disc -3 for their max distance. I find it interesting they say they throw 500 feet but with an understable disc. Not very reliable and why not throw a stable disc that is more predictable? You should ask them why they only throw understable disc for max distance and i bet they can't throw Destroyers 500. I always wonder how much power do they really have throwing a understable disc on a anhyzer with tons of glide. Not much arm power.
      Thanks for writing and watching. I'll try to get another video of me throwing out soon... Check out the recent video of me playing my home course. Consistent birdies at the ~255 ft range and through trees. Aloha Michael