@@slylataupe1697 it's from Voyager. Episode is called Threshold. It's one of the crazier episodes of Trek. Lower Decks really likes to do callbacks to the most ridiculous or silly episodes of other Trek series. Lower Decks will never let you forget that Dr. Crusher boned a Scottish ghost living in a magic candle.
Who knows, maybe they are now populate the planet the warp 10 shuttle crashed on, as they are evolved humans they must be better than us, they might be even worse than the Borg, giving that the knowledge to build a entire civilisation before they evolved they can do it again and better
That crewman half in the floor on TNG scared the shit out of me as a kid. Still pretty creepy looking. Very unnerving. Especially with the scream. Looks peaceful but a horrible way to die.
it's actually creepier now in the bluray you can see that she has blood coming out of her ears and nose (presumably because her insides were crushed instantly when the floor rematerialized in her midsection and it caused all her blood vessels to burst from the pressure)
Even creepier...with the state of 24th century medical technology, that might actually be a survivable injury. And depending on how thick the deck is-and, thus, how much if any of the other half of the crewman's body ended up in the deck below-might conceivably not even be THAT debilitating, let alone a career ender. (Hey, worst case, it's no more horrific than what happened to Captain Pike. At least she'd be able to type.)
@Reluctant Millennial 1985, That wasn't a transporter accident. Lt. Van Mayter's death was due to a dark matter nebula called the "Mar Oscura" with spatial deformations floating through the ship. The TNG Episode is called "In Theory". It is the one where Data had a relationship with Lieutenant Jenna D'Sora played by Michele Scarabelli.
@@joelcrafter43 "As Gregor Samsa awoke one morning from uneasy dreams he found himself transformed in his bed into a monstrous vermin" - Franz Kafka, "The Metamorphosis"
They even researched how the Salt Vampire camouflage works! they're not shapeshifters! They create telepathic illusions! that's why Mariner saw her as she really was! the illusion takes conscious effort to get right, and sometimes it just doesn't work.
Fans are probably working on this. The thing though is that CBS is probably trying to stop or prevent as much as possible connections to previous shows. Of course, since CBS suits probably don't know anything about Star Trek, they can put references like these in that only actual fans would recognize. Someone totally unfamiliar with Star Trek would just think these are just silly gags and nothing more.
I lot of people make a snap decision, based on the first episode. Which is incredibly stupid, are pilots RARELY as good as the main show’s regular episodes
@@Cen21000 I’m not going to defend lower decks here. It’s not good, it’s barely average. But it does have one or two points in its favor. Like the fact that it actually looks like startrek. Or how it’s willing to at least reference parts of Star Trek, that more serious shows would rather discard
Yeah, with established, modern technology we have better ways of allowing completely paralyzed people to communicate (eye tracking, neural sensors). Maybe sci-fi radiation prevents them being used, but i feel anything that could render the eyes paralyzed and the brainwaves unreadable would also render someone entirely unconsious/braindead.
You know what the BEST part about Lower Decks is? Because it is animated well, you can never go back to watch it decades later and be like "woah these special effects suck ass". Which is what happens with literally every other Star Trek series.
This is the benefit of having a silly little cartoon in the franchise. Cartoons have the freedom to explore parts of the franchise, that more serious entries will often ignore
Paris: Computer, end holonovel. Arch. Delete program. Fragment so it cannot be recovered. Computer: Unable to comply. Reference copy sent to USS Cerritos database for analysis.
Riker: "It's conceivable that there COULD exist, SOMEWHERE, creatures able to convert energy into matter!" Data: (Proceeds to list the dozen or so such races the Enterprise No Bloody A, B, C or D encountered in just 3 years, implying there's probably many, many, more.) Riker: "Look, Toaster, I could read boring old Starfleet records or I could hit on Orion chicks."
Yeah. This has always bugged me about the Trek shows. By the time TNG started, there should be enough institutional experience in Starfleet that people should know about things like the space jellyfish already, even if they haven't seen this particular species before. That's one of things I love about Lower Decks; they acknowledge that Starfleet has HISTORY.
some of these should not be considered "references." The alien with three arms is an officer of a race that we haven't seen a lot of. others definitively are references. you can assume if an error that caused half of your body to age happened once, then it could happen again.
It was specifically an episode about 1) unusual Starfleet injuries requiring special treatments, and 2) a collab with a second ship that turned into a first contact scenario. That first plotline is enough to fit numerous references into a single hospital ship.
Tom Griffiths don’t be such a buzzkill references are a lot of fun and often times they don’t inhibit the story or writing as well. In fact they can be a pretty good indicator of if the writer is familiar and passionate about the source material as these obscure references show the writer really knows their Star Trek
At least you can tell the writers love and are die hard fans of all of star trek. To make a Xon reference is so obscure, most super fans can be forgiven if they never heard of that Spock ripoff.
@yeah I'm John Assal Well given that the episode was supposed to have a happy ending, Killing one of them would be a weird direction to go. the audience is supposed to see him as a person and not just a big aquatic creature.
It's most likely captain janeway went a great effort to forget about that incident to the point of making every minus Naomi and the doctor ( 1 Naomi being baby 2 doctor those files where corrupted ) take a blood pact to never ever speak of the warp 10 incident on pain of "accidental" Death
@Kevin McDougall oh hell no anthony be more like a arrogant copycat who thought they could go warp 10 and avoid being salamanderd but obviously failed that or they were an unwitting test subject ( Voyagers doctor ain't a half ass quack it be against programming)
It’s too American to be globally accepted. I’m from Eastern Europe and we are very traditional. Having Homosexuality or Feminism usually get the series or movie a country wide bann. It’s based on culture and supported by the people. We elect the government after all. China is similar.
@@curious5887 probably I watched the series with a vpn. I don’t like it since it’s too “progressive” for my tasted. I don’t support any non-Christian politics. But I respect other countries, I only want respect in return. America can have homosexuality but we don’t want it.
I can imagine so with how Star Fleet is, they are probably was thinking "if one lone ship stranded on the far side of the galaxy can do this, why can't we try it again with more resources.
@@lukasperuzovic1429 starfleet does have a nasty habit of not leaving “well enough” alone. Seriously, how many incidents have been caused, by someone deciding they needed to investigate something? A scientist SERIOUSLY wanted to dissect Data’s brain, with absolutely no guarantee that Data could be put back together.
Because it’s a cartoon, so it’s taken less seriously. So the writers are given the freedom to explore parts of the franchise, that more serious writers would rather ignore.
The amount of times they reference “Threshold” makes me think they’re trying to say it’s canon or something, what a ridiculous concept. What’s next, they’ll be trying to say “Fury”’s canon?
@Trumptard Passed it on the way up from Vegas a few years back. If I remember correctly it definitely is out in the middle of nowhere. Between San Fran and the Redwoods.
Sure that may be true, but if this wasn't lower decks, I would bet your comment Would be along with many others: "look at all these references, so amazing I never noticed X". It just looks like your trying to find something to complain about.
We all love references, and of course familiarity in a shared universe between shows, but when each episode turns into reference bingo, you have to ask yourself, what new ideas are they actually bringing to their supposedly in-universe Trek show? Also, especially in past eps, the rapid-fire references distracted from any attempt at storytelling and confused the issue: are they In the Trek universe, or are they commenting on it from the audience's perspective. It's so messed up.
@@Valkires1 my comment would be the same if any star trek series relied this hard on references for entertainment. As in I always thought that episode at the beggining of tng season 1 where everyone starts acting drunk just like in tos was kinda dumb and lazy... but at least Data got laid! RIP Data
0:20 so is the medical specialist the same guy as the one that was on the enterprise? ....I am gonna say yes but that is just my head cannon :) he goes from enterprise to his own medical transport vessel cause he has a long life span and can make multiple trips.
i think it much like Orville would do fin but i think part of the point of this show is to remind a new generation of what makes Trek great when all they have is this JJ shit. Lower Decks is like the Magic School Bus. but insted of teaching sciance with a narative its teaching Trek lore with a narative.
Shard18 ...What are you talking about? Lower Dreck is teaching IMMORAL lessons antithetical to actual Star Trek ideals. Mariner is also a criminal thug who thinks that the rules do not apply to her. In the REAL Star Trek universe, she would be dishonorably discharged and in a Federation prison by now.
Its amazing that half of these comments are just from people trying to find things to hate. You know it is possible that you can still find something interesting even if you dislike it... But I'm not a doctor so what do I know?
It's a variation of the title theme, a nice gentle strings variant, rather pleasant I must say, much like "The Enterprise", the piece used when Kirk & Scotty are pootling around drydock in a shuttlepod looking at the Enterprise in TMP... :)
Didn't south park also spoof the delta radiation lady? The teacher who got horribly burned when the kids were in kindergarten and framed a kid, sending him away ala Cape Fear. 1 beep for yes, 2 for no. Is this the kid who burned you? *BEEP, BEEP.* There you have it; "yes, yes."
earthlings started to have hope for the stars with the utopian style TV shows and movies based in space. but now we are seeing more and more content pointing out how messed up we are and space will become if we go out there, so... good-bye humanity
These themes were in original star trek quite often. Like the federation invading Gorn space or that episode of TNG where they realize warp engines are pollutic the fabric of space itself. We're always creating new problems for ourselves and then finding ways to solve them
i feal like some of it is pointing out that we r who we r. will we can do better were still human, we will make mistakes there will be ass holes and we have to balace order and chaos if we want to be even better still. look at were we r. riets in the streets, most governments r corupt, theres a pandemic born of our arrogance. BUT povertys at an all time low, theres less racisum and hate crimes than ever before, people r living longer more active live. we suck but we suck way less than we did 50, 100, 2000 years ago. and gess what. were going to suck 2000 years from now but way less than we do today. thats why the utopia was abandoned. its not only to distant of a goal but we wouldnt even know how to make 1 believable as we r. even the original trek had people backstabbing, fighting eachother, braking rules. it was talked up as a utopia but if u realy watch it its anything but. its just not in blined anarky. fuck u compare the 70s to the 90s and it almost felt like a utopia by comparasome
I actually appreciate that this makes fun of the more absurd parts of Star Trek. If that's what this series had been about from the beginning, I'd actually enjoy it. Imagine what could be done if it was all this well presented.
@@MajorGrin ideal for a video Dr Bashir makes an offhand remark about someone having finally discovered the cure for aging and then show Dr crusher explaining how ensign row and Captain Picard were turned into children
References are a nice nod to old fans every now and then, but cramming them into the show feels like pandering: "No, we love Trek look at how many references we shoved in!" A punch line dies the more its used and "Remember that?" Is getting old...
The entire series has like a quota for how many old Trek references should be crammed into every single episode. Now if only they could cram some better storytelling and some actual funny jokes as opposed to bland jokes.
I know these references. I CLAPPED when I saw them! This show is a good show in it's entirety with zero flaws. It has zero flaws because I saw things I knew in the show. I know those references, and I clapped when I saw them.
This show is akin to Family Guy, but not as funny in its prime... referential humor and a paper thin plot to hang those references off them... but I am making my peace with this show. I just accept it for what it is than just hating at it into the void... but if people want to hate on it, I won't stop them... because I was there too.
That’s fine, you don’t like the idea you don’t have to watch it. But if your personally fine with the idea but just don’t want to watch it because someone said it was bad I’d advise you to make your own opinion
@@d.jparer5184 Ah the humourless Trek fan, a remarkable species, don't you think? Notice how they never pass up an opportunity to broadcast their supercilious disdain.
You missed the Capt Jellico throwaway when talking about the dog. This show's a mess, it's a powerpoint presentation of hey look at this, remember this, you like this right. Please think we are this.
I disagree, it's an homage to trek. The lower decks is not supposed to be taken seriously, it's made to be watched and laughed at, and that's fine. When people take some things too seriously they miss the value. The writing on this show isn't even that bad, IMO the writing of the lower decks is far better than the other new shows. The lower decks is vastly different than other trek but i believe it has its own merit.
saftpackerl I mean they’re not the pinnacle of storytelling but the show’s still finding it’s footing. I mean The Orville was kinda like this too in the beginning but look at it now, maybe Lower Decks will be like that but set in the actual Star Trek universe.
More like a fan made animation to me....taking reference as much as he can from the classic STAR TREK. But doesn't mean it is a STAR TREK...oh my god, do they understand what the show was about!?
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Thx ! Could you use please tell from which série and episode comes the salamander like creatures ?
Could you do more videos for all the other episodes of Lower Decks?
@@slylataupe1697 it's from Voyager. Episode is called Threshold. It's one of the crazier episodes of Trek. Lower Decks really likes to do callbacks to the most ridiculous or silly episodes of other Trek series.
Lower Decks will never let you forget that Dr. Crusher boned a Scottish ghost living in a magic candle.
Love how everyone just ASSUMES Anthony was once human, I think it'd be more hilarious that he is actually one of Janeway's grown spawn.
I think anthony was actually janeway grown spawn, with no mention from voyager series
@@curious5887 agreed. Im pretty sure noone talked about that beyond the classified "warp 10" report
Yeah the three kids never get mentioned again
@@Skyebright1 probably for the best.
Who knows, maybe they are now populate the planet the warp 10 shuttle crashed on, as they are evolved humans they must be better than us, they might be even worse than the Borg, giving that the knowledge to build a entire civilisation before they evolved they can do it again and better
That crewman half in the floor on TNG scared the shit out of me as a kid. Still pretty creepy looking. Very unnerving. Especially with the scream. Looks peaceful but a horrible way to die.
it's actually creepier now in the bluray you can see that she has blood coming out of her ears and nose (presumably because her insides were crushed instantly when the floor rematerialized in her midsection and it caused all her blood vessels to burst from the pressure)
Even creepier...with the state of 24th century medical technology, that might actually be a survivable injury.
And depending on how thick the deck is-and, thus, how much if any of the other half of the crewman's body ended up in the deck below-might conceivably not even be THAT debilitating, let alone a career ender.
(Hey, worst case, it's no more horrific than what happened to Captain Pike. At least she'd be able to type.)
@Reluctant Millennial 1985, That wasn't a transporter accident. Lt. Van Mayter's death was due to a dark matter nebula called the "Mar Oscura" with spatial deformations floating through the ship. The TNG Episode is called "In Theory". It is the one where Data had a relationship with Lieutenant Jenna D'Sora played by Michele Scarabelli.
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Which episode is it in?
I love that everybody on board just ignored the fact that Paris and Janeway did the nasty while they were salamanders.
Janeway: “I never want to discuss this incident again as soon as possible.”
captains privilege
Paris transferred his sperm into Janeway's vagina in non-human form
And Janeway suggested it was her that made the first move 😂
Oh I never realised that Salamander creature was a reference to Threshold until now. I wish I'd laughed when I first watched it
The catfish are rather cute
@@DogwafflDan They are both cute and existentially horrific because of the fact they used to be people.
@@joelcrafter43 "As Gregor Samsa awoke one morning from uneasy dreams he found himself transformed in his bed into a monstrous vermin"
- Franz Kafka, "The Metamorphosis"
Yeah, I really doubt someone who puts this many obscurer references isn't a fan of star trek on some level.
They even researched how the Salt Vampire camouflage works! they're not shapeshifters! They create telepathic illusions! that's why Mariner saw her as she really was! the illusion takes conscious effort to get right, and sometimes it just doesn't work.
Or he just spent a lot of time on the wiki.
TheJrbdog True.
But if that's the case, it's handled a little better than how picard and std did it.
@@TheJrbdog that's a lot of research though :)
Fans are probably working on this. The thing though is that CBS is probably trying to stop or prevent as much as possible connections to previous shows. Of course, since CBS suits probably don't know anything about Star Trek, they can put references like these in that only actual fans would recognize. Someone totally unfamiliar with Star Trek would just think these are just silly gags and nothing more.
McMahan: “So sue me if I go a little crazy with the references. I’m having fun!”
Kurtzman: “What references?”
Actually there references though out STD And Picard, but they are not as tongue and check and obvious as Lower Decks.
You missed one: The temporary reassignment of Freeman, Ransom, and Shaxs was a play on the events of Chain of Command.
Probably Nechayev and Jellicoe. I never liked either of them.
This side by side makes me actually respect the concept of this series. It doesn't just feel like a rick and morty bullshit attempt
I lot of people make a snap decision, based on the first episode. Which is incredibly stupid, are pilots RARELY as good as the main show’s regular episodes
@@AJSSPACEPLACE maybe the show should have made itself appeal to the audience of star trek over the lowest common denominator.
@@Cen21000 yeah, because that’s turned out well for all the live action shows made recently.
@@Cen21000 I’m not going to defend lower decks here. It’s not good, it’s barely average. But it does have one or two points in its favor.
Like the fact that it actually looks like startrek. Or how it’s willing to at least reference parts of Star Trek, that more serious shows would rather discard
@@AJSSPACEPLACE imagine thinking that says anything that makes sense
The fact that Starfleet still has beep chairs is terrifying.
Yeah, with established, modern technology we have better ways of allowing completely paralyzed people to communicate (eye tracking, neural sensors). Maybe sci-fi radiation prevents them being used, but i feel anything that could render the eyes paralyzed and the brainwaves unreadable would also render someone entirely unconsious/braindead.
Boimler walking around the bridge all noisey and phasey reminded me of the V'Ger probe.
You know what the BEST part about Lower Decks is?
Because it is animated well, you can never go back to watch it decades later and be like "woah these special effects suck ass".
Which is what happens with literally every other Star Trek series.
Hairstyles as well. However people did their hair ten years ago always looks dumb, but for some reason animated hair is just "generic" or something.
@@cowsagainstcapitalism347 Tendi's hairstyle is going out of fashion as we speak, sadly.
They included the salamander from Voyager’s Threshold. 😟
OMG. And here I thought people wanted to pretend that episode didn’t exist. 😂😂
This is the benefit of having a silly little cartoon in the franchise. Cartoons have the freedom to explore parts of the franchise, that more serious entries will often ignore
@@AJSSPACEPLACE I agree.
Paris: Computer, end holonovel. Arch. Delete program. Fragment so it cannot be recovered.
Computer: Unable to comply. Reference copy sent to USS Cerritos database for analysis.
2:41 The Dog made me so laugh out loud.
Riker: "It's conceivable that there COULD exist, SOMEWHERE, creatures able to convert energy into matter!"
Data: (Proceeds to list the dozen or so such races the Enterprise No Bloody A, B, C or D encountered in just 3 years, implying there's probably many, many, more.)
Riker: "Look, Toaster, I could read boring old Starfleet records or I could hit on Orion chicks."
Yeah. This has always bugged me about the Trek shows. By the time TNG started, there should be enough institutional experience in Starfleet that people should know about things like the space jellyfish already, even if they haven't seen this particular species before. That's one of things I love about Lower Decks; they acknowledge that Starfleet has HISTORY.
Tendi: No fraternizing with crew, Captain Riker. Shame on you...
When the dog broke apart, that was a reference to "The thing" (1982)
This was a single episode? Jesus how many references are they going to put in them.
some of these should not be considered "references." The alien with three arms is an officer of a race that we haven't seen a lot of. others definitively are references. you can assume if an error that caused half of your body to age happened once, then it could happen again.
It was specifically an episode about 1) unusual Starfleet injuries requiring special treatments, and 2) a collab with a second ship that turned into a first contact scenario.
That first plotline is enough to fit numerous references into a single hospital ship.
Tripe
Tom Griffiths don’t be such a buzzkill references are a lot of fun and often times they don’t inhibit the story or writing as well. In fact they can be a pretty good indicator of if the writer is familiar and passionate about the source material as these obscure references show the writer really knows their Star Trek
At least you can tell the writers love and are die hard fans of all of star trek. To make a Xon reference is so obscure, most super fans can be forgiven if they never heard of that Spock ripoff.
It's just cosmetic!
*Everyone cheers*
Durga: Brushes self off calmly
Why isn't kurtzman in there?
Division 14, that is.
Isn't he the slug thing?
@yeah I'm John Assal it'd probably taste more like a Hellbender than a catfish.
@yeah I'm John Assal Well given that the episode was supposed to have a happy ending, Killing one of them would be a weird direction to go. the audience is supposed to see him as a person and not just a big aquatic creature.
@yeah I'm John Assal well... why would they think they ate Anthony though?
I admittedly laughed at some of the stuff from Lower Decks. Never seen an episode, just what little clips were here.
a real question is why couldn't they cure Anthony? They cured janeway and paris, curing Anthony would be the same.
Janeway must have forgot to tell starfleet about her warp 10 experiments
It's most likely captain janeway went a great effort to forget about that incident to the point of making every minus Naomi and the doctor ( 1 Naomi being baby 2 doctor those files where corrupted ) take a blood pact to never ever speak of the warp 10 incident on pain of "accidental" Death
@@NitpickingNerd so insaneway strikes again.
@Kevin McDougall oh hell no anthony be more like a arrogant copycat who thought they could go warp 10 and avoid being salamanderd but obviously failed that or they were an unwitting test subject
( Voyagers doctor ain't a half ass quack it be against programming)
@Kevin McDougall maybe it was just one of their children
Lower Decks is a gem in its own. It sucks more people don't appreciate it.
Yeah, everybody hate this show, but for me, it’s a good show
It’s too American to be globally accepted. I’m from Eastern Europe and we are very traditional. Having Homosexuality or Feminism usually get the series or movie a country wide bann. It’s based on culture and supported by the people. We elect the government after all. China is similar.
@@bendover4668 could bisexuality get the series a country wide ban, because ep.7 introduced us capt Ramsey, which is mariner ex or former lover
@@curious5887 probably I watched the series with a vpn. I don’t like it since it’s too “progressive” for my tasted. I don’t support any non-Christian politics. But I respect other countries, I only want respect in return. America can have homosexuality but we don’t want it.
Damn, Star Trek, you scary.
1:47 - everyone's favorite trek episodes lol
And they had babies :3
So they tried to continue the transwarp experiments after Voyager came home..
I can imagine so with how Star Fleet is, they are probably was thinking "if one lone ship stranded on the far side of the galaxy can do this, why can't we try it again with more resources.
@@lukasperuzovic1429 starfleet does have a nasty habit of not leaving “well enough” alone.
Seriously, how many incidents have been caused, by someone deciding they needed to investigate something?
A scientist SERIOUSLY wanted to dissect Data’s brain, with absolutely no guarantee that Data could be put back together.
@@AJSSPACEPLACE Starfleet isn't known for their lack of hubris or restrant
The dog might actually just be a reference to The Thing.
Lower Decks looks like the best new Star Trek show...take that for what it is worth.
Because it’s a cartoon, so it’s taken less seriously. So the writers are given the freedom to explore parts of the franchise, that more serious writers would rather ignore.
Why in the West, do we presume animation is JUST FOR KIDS? :)
“Two of everything”
“Almost everything”
HOLY SHIT I never connected the dog reference to that TNG. Also: I demand an Anthony plushie.
Missed the nod to STTMP transporter accident. The inhuman scream still gives me shudders.
"What we got back didn't live long... fortunately."
When I saw that on the big screen for the first time, I was horrified by that scene!
I'm from Louisiana. When I saw the Voyager episode with the Janeway and Paris amphibians, my first thoughts went to recipes.
Damn this episode got more references that DSC and STP together!
Honestly lower decks doesn't seem quire as bad as I thought at first.
I haven't watched it yet. It just seems too silly for a Trek show for me to get into.
@@wallacewallaby5782 have you watched TOS?
@wallacewallaby5782 It's silly. It's childish, but it's a damn fine show in its own regard, and it's the best Trek we have gotten in 2 decades.
@anna-flora1899 TOS was bit more serious but Lower Decks is great but for slightly younger audiences.
This was one of my favorite episodes so far. Really funny all the way through! Love all the references, well spotted.
I adore this show
The amount of times they reference “Threshold” makes me think they’re trying to say it’s canon or something, what a ridiculous concept. What’s next, they’ll be trying to say “Fury”’s canon?
Did anyone else notice the Howard the Duck looking crewman getting a massage next to "Anthony" on the Farm plant? Tragic.
Daniel’s case was always horrific. Temporal weapons are a horrific thought.
Also I do not remember 2:45
I think this is the best episode in the lower decks
Damm I really love this Show!!!
Are ships of the California class named after citys in California?
Yup
That would seem to be the class lineage, yes.
@Trumptard Passed it on the way up from Vegas a few years back. If I remember correctly it definitely is out in the middle of nowhere. Between San Fran and the Redwoods.
@Trumptard It's a field of mud
If USS Cerritos is bad, imagine USS Van Nuys... or USS Compton.
Easter eggs are the only source of creativity - Kurtzman
Sure that may be true, but if this wasn't lower decks, I would bet your comment Would be along with many others: "look at all these references, so amazing I never noticed X".
It just looks like your trying to find something to complain about.
We all love references, and of course familiarity in a shared universe between shows, but when each episode turns into reference bingo, you have to ask yourself, what new ideas are they actually bringing to their supposedly in-universe Trek show? Also, especially in past eps, the rapid-fire references distracted from any attempt at storytelling and confused the issue: are they In the Trek universe, or are they commenting on it from the audience's perspective. It's so messed up.
@@Valkires1 Talentless hack is the new standard. That way everyone is equally uncreative and useless in the new social 'justice' utopia. Progress!!!
@@Valkires1 my comment would be the same if any star trek series relied this hard on references for entertainment. As in I always thought that episode at the beggining of tng season 1 where everyone starts acting drunk just like in tos was kinda dumb and lazy... but at least Data got laid!
RIP Data
@Mar celo and that is a very low hurdle to jump... One could almost call it a ditch...
0:20 so is the medical specialist the same guy as the one that was on the enterprise? ....I am gonna say yes but that is just my head cannon :) he goes from enterprise to his own medical transport vessel cause he has a long life span and can make multiple trips.
Spoke with Peter David. In his novels, Arex was transported to the TNG timeline.
Star Jelly Decked out in California Class Armor and if they figure it out armed with phasers and photon torpedoes. NICE!
Wow, interesting adaptations.
I think you missed when Barkley turns blue due to transporter accident.
I love the refrences
i know what bluray rip of enterprise you downloaded and struggled with mkv imports in vegas because of the low gamma in output render ;)
If Lower Dreck wasn't a Star Trek show, where would this show be without the references?
Workplace comedy featuring sci-fi nerds?
The Orville?
@@00chla50 Orville in itself has full episodes based on TNG stuff.
i think it much like Orville would do fin but i think part of the point of this show is to remind a new generation of what makes Trek great when all they have is this JJ shit. Lower Decks is like the Magic School Bus. but insted of teaching sciance with a narative its teaching Trek lore with a narative.
Shard18 ...What are you talking about? Lower Dreck is teaching IMMORAL lessons antithetical to actual Star Trek ideals. Mariner is also a criminal thug who thinks that the rules do not apply to her. In the REAL Star Trek universe, she would be dishonorably discharged and in a Federation prison by now.
I thought the transpot accident was a reference to the first Star Trek movie.
Its amazing that half of these comments are just from people trying to find things to hate.
You know it is possible that you can still find something interesting even if you dislike it... But I'm not a doctor so what do I know?
4:35 they are using The Orville's music.
Dear god I think you’re right. Can you point to the episode/song?
... yeah that is pretty exactly the music... is that from the episode or just this video though?
It's a variation of the title theme, a nice gentle strings variant, rather pleasant I must say, much like "The Enterprise", the piece used when Kirk & Scotty are pootling around drydock in a shuttlepod looking at the Enterprise in TMP... :)
Orville is using StarTrek's everything.....
Sounds more like the opening music to Star Trek III, but slightly altered.
What is name of TNG episode with shapeshifter dog?
very cool
Holy shit, I completely missed half of these...a LOT of Enterprise ones.
You missed the Barkley transporter episode
oh yeah his arm became blue as well at times
Star Trekyards: Honey Decks
oh boy
4:17 do replicators or holodecks count?
They probably explained this but I'm not a big enough fan to know that detail.
No, they said creatures.
@@sahaquiel4640 To be fair, creatures created those technologies. :P
replicator can only re-arrange existing matter , same as the transporter . holodeck matter isn't real and can only exist inside an active holo grid
Personality, I like to call those giant space jellyfish, Enulons. Anyone want to guess why I call it that?
They are called Cnidarians. And you can fly one if you did last year's summer event. I named mine Roswell.
Why did people hate the animated series so much? It was so good!
I feel,lower decks pays a lot of respect to it...
Because it's infantile?
Lower Decks is the best
Tom Paris never looked better. 🖖
Didn't south park also spoof the delta radiation lady? The teacher who got horribly burned when the kids were in kindergarten and framed a kid, sending him away ala Cape Fear.
1 beep for yes, 2 for no. Is this the kid who burned you? *BEEP, BEEP.* There you have it; "yes, yes."
@4:19 Timer seems to have forgotten about replicator technology
Creatures. Creatures. So no.
Replicators turn matter into other matter with energy tho... So, yeah
Was Section 14 supposed to be a nod to Section 31 of DS9?
Do they really expect us to watch something like Lower Decks? It's more like they are making fun of Star Trek than continuing it.
... ... ... ... *BEEP* ... ... ...
earthlings started to have hope for the stars with the utopian style TV shows and movies based in space. but now we are seeing more and more content pointing out how messed up we are and space will become if we go out there, so... good-bye humanity
These themes were in original star trek quite often. Like the federation invading Gorn space or that episode of TNG where they realize warp engines are pollutic the fabric of space itself.
We're always creating new problems for ourselves and then finding ways to solve them
i feal like some of it is pointing out that we r who we r. will we can do better were still human, we will make mistakes there will be ass holes and we have to balace order and chaos if we want to be even better still. look at were we r. riets in the streets, most governments r corupt, theres a pandemic born of our arrogance. BUT povertys at an all time low, theres less racisum and hate crimes than ever before, people r living longer more active live. we suck but we suck way less than we did 50, 100, 2000 years ago. and gess what. were going to suck 2000 years from now but way less than we do today. thats why the utopia was abandoned. its not only to distant of a goal but we wouldnt even know how to make 1 believable as we r. even the original trek had people backstabbing, fighting eachother, braking rules. it was talked up as a utopia but if u realy watch it its anything but. its just not in blined anarky. fuck u compare the 70s to the 90s and it almost felt like a utopia by comparasome
Enterprise looks like a masterpiece after STD and STP
The mistake of me being born a guy seems like it wasnt a mistake compared to your existence
@Tom Griffiths english please?
@Tom Griffiths ok, but what you said, definitle made no fucking sense what so ever
@Tom Griffiths so would you like to try again and be actually understandable
@Tom Griffiths youre so childish, no wonder you dont understand actual trek
Please explain the catfish walrus to me.
A reference from the "best" episode of the entire Star Trek saga.
Their interns surely knew how to hit the random button on Memory Alpha, huh?
Hey, it's all in good fun. Given what else has been shat out, they could have hit it off _way_ worse.
You're overreacting with some of them, but that komodo dragon like creature is definitely from voyager!
Threshold got the makeup/ special effects right, but that episode was so bad they retconed it out.
@@explorinjenkins349 yeah, it's like the Holdo maneuver, or the mycelium network. It just breaks all canon forever.
Lower Decks: The 'Member Berries
I actually appreciate that this makes fun of the more absurd parts of Star Trek. If that's what this series had been about from the beginning, I'd actually enjoy it. Imagine what could be done if it was all this well presented.
Kurtzman's idea of an "Easter egg" is going to the Memory Alpha wiki, clicking the Random Page button, and making a reference to whatever comes up.
Kurztman is only the Executive Producer, if he would be in charge of all, the show would look like GOT.
Idk compared to discovery this show is top teir but i gave it a chance and it fun
Someone in the show knows his star trek. Or they just randomly watched it and thought "hey we can take that and that and ohhh definitely that!"
Its still amazing the parody can still take past trek more seriously than the hyper serious fallow up shows.
Weren't they able to undo the transformation that occurred in threshold, the episode that isn't even canon
yeah they just sprayed some anti-matter on them and they became human again in an instant , no problemo
@@MajorGrin ideal for a video Dr Bashir makes an offhand remark about someone having finally discovered the cure for aging and then show Dr crusher explaining how ensign row and Captain Picard were turned into children
What a terrible Voyager episode to reference too.
FontPeg maybe , but EVERYONE remembers it so it was a funny call back to it
This show is great because references!
:/
I KNOW THESE THINGS! THESE ARE THINGS I KNOW!!!!
*SPASTIC CLAPPING*
I clapped! I clapped when I saw it!
Family Guy: Lower Decks
This show is decent. And I gotta say, a decent Star trek show in the Kurtzman age is a unicorn lol.
As much as I hate this show like most klutzman crap, ......... THIS WAS A GOOD EPISODE. There I said it, will this trend continue Pfft Hell no.
Luckily he's only the Executive Producer, so he doesn't have as much as influence as in DSC or STP.
Mike McMahan
is primarily responsible for this show, it is a big step in the right direction compared to STD and STP "klutzman crap."
Everything in discover, picard and lower decks has been good
@@airrider-jk9ik And thats what? Considering STD/DSC
@@winni2701 the writing, the stories, the visuals, the characters, the aesthetic, the star trek feel, literally everything about them
I don't see it as trek references. It feels more like they are mocking at Star Trek.
Star Trek GO! (Proceeds to barf at the thought)
References are a nice nod to old fans every now and then, but cramming them into the show feels like pandering:
"No, we love Trek look at how many references we shoved in!"
A punch line dies the more its used and "Remember that?" Is getting old...
More like urinating on it.
Lower decks is better than Orville and discovery
How tf do they get back and forth to engineering?
through the nacelles
The entire series has like a quota for how many old Trek references should be crammed into every single episode.
Now if only they could cram some better storytelling and some actual funny jokes as opposed to bland jokes.
It's just too intelligent for normies.
1:33 is not a transporter accident
When you do it like this, Lower Decks actually looks GOOD! Welp, back to reality for me.
I've noticed all the female characters are really cute !!! Is that by design? [Not that i'm complaining] 😀😀😀
Its just called good character design
I know these references. I CLAPPED when I saw them!
This show is a good show in it's entirety with zero flaws. It has zero flaws because I saw things I knew in the show. I know those references, and I clapped when I saw them.
Wow you made this show seem almost tolerable!
Almost.
I like it lmao
Honestly? It’s a pretty good show. Not great like Enterprise or TNG, but serviceable
No offense but I honestly feel like some of these aren’t references.
This show is akin to Family Guy, but not as funny in its prime... referential humor and a paper thin plot to hang those references off them... but I am making my peace with this show. I just accept it for what it is than just hating at it into the void... but if people want to hate on it, I won't stop them... because I was there too.
It's better to be a piss take and own being a piss take rather than be a piss take and convince yourself you're serious (STD, STP)
I'm not even gonna give this show a chance
That’s fine, you don’t like the idea you don’t have to watch it. But if your personally fine with the idea but just don’t want to watch it because someone said it was bad I’d advise you to make your own opinion
@@ethanlhu7491 new trek is awful, it's for philistines
@@d.jparer5184 Ah the humourless Trek fan, a remarkable species, don't you think? Notice how they never pass up an opportunity to broadcast their supercilious disdain.
You missed the Capt Jellico throwaway when talking about the dog. This show's a mess, it's a powerpoint presentation of hey look at this, remember this, you like this right. Please think we are this.
I disagree, it's an homage to trek. The lower decks is not supposed to be taken seriously, it's made to be watched and laughed at, and that's fine. When people take some things too seriously they miss the value. The writing on this show isn't even that bad, IMO the writing of the lower decks is far better than the other new shows. The lower decks is vastly different than other trek but i believe it has its own merit.
@@amc6169 Hey, member' this shill?
References are great an all but you're gonna have to make a good story first
They did
No they didnt.
Well, they did, did you even watch the episode
saftpackerl I mean they’re not the pinnacle of storytelling but the show’s still finding it’s footing. I mean The Orville was kinda like this too in the beginning but look at it now, maybe Lower Decks will be like that but set in the actual Star Trek universe.
@@harrisonrothacher2250 I'd really wish that. But at the moment I just cant stop eyerolling during all those "stories"...
I enjoyed the first 5 episodes. The last 3 have been painful to watch and very dumb.
Ok
@@202015spongebob ok
More like a fan made animation to me....taking reference as much as he can from the classic STAR TREK.
But doesn't mean it is a STAR TREK...oh my god, do they understand what the show was about!?