What a Fish Sees when you’re trying to catch it!.
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- čas přidán 9. 09. 2024
- So i know i was supposed to be taking a break but i had a filming job get cancelled so had a lot of free time, and i have been meaning to make this video for a long time.
I bolted some gopros to a steel plate and put them in the river at locations i normally see fish, in an attempt to get a view of what a fish would see when you trying to catch it. fly fishing to the rig with 10lb 8lb 6lb leader on the 6 wt loop q fly rod.
the results reveal some details but i think i need to fine tune and repeat to get some better info.
hope you find something useful in it.
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Dude awesome video!!! Such a cool idea !! Keep up the awesome work bro !!!! Would definitely like to see another video like this !!!!
Fascinating experiment. Thank you! You've done what most of us try and only imagine what's going on under water. It sometimes baffles me seeing some anglers on the TT and Hini stepping too close toward the trout in a small stream. The noise levels you recorded prove the need for stealth. I'm definitely interested to see what happens on the Tongariro.
It really shows that to have a good drift and so that the fish cant see you, you have to stand as much as possible behide the fish and be as quiet as you can. Basically what tony orman was telling us in his book trout with nymph many years ago.
Yep that’s it
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Right on dude! Your curiosity is inspirational. Keep it up.
Brilliant experiment Gareth . One thing I picked up was the trout wouldn’t be startled to easy with all that debris . Their instincts would be to pick out the food as in nymphs . Great video
Thanks for this very informative video. It's highly impressive to see how the trout has to decide what they wanna eat and what they let through.
Cheers bro
With all the debris, it is amazing they can pick out what is food and what isn't. Other videos I have seen showed trout grabbing a stick or bit of moss and mostly rejecting it, but sometimes, with the moss, they retain it. I suppose they find some invertebrates in the moss and swallow the whole mess. Great video of what it looks like from the fish's perspective. Also interesting about the sound of the split shot hitting the water.
Definitely cool Dude! I've been sending your vids to others over here in Jersey and out to Iowa. Great idea putting the cameras in the water. Was really surprised that there's that much debris washing by the lens. Amazing that the fish can distinguish between that and the flies.
Broski I giVe you props. Rad to see the perspective of tha fish. Nice job!
Alot of work went into that thanks for the great video man
keep up the good work mate. thanks for all the info (y) peace
I know government agencies doing less research. Really good idea
I love this dude, I am supper passionate about fly fishing and the art and science that goes behind it and this is the first video I’ve seen like this so cheers man
Bloody awsome footage and good on you for taking the initiative to find out your influence on the trouts world.
Love to see more, Really enjoyed it and cant wait to see more, 🍀
Thanks mate more to come
Make a series like this. Really cool to see how different colors and patterns react in the water. Dry flies would be cool to see from underwater👌🏻
Thanks Gareth, really interesting video, quite fascinating to see things from a trout perspective! Glad you had some time to get out on the river for a bit of fun too!
Awesome Gareth. Great idea.
Great vid. Stoked to see you here this week.
👍
this is awesome, I have been wanting to to do this locally and see what they see. The cam mics probably pic up very differently than what a fish would hear and/or feel. So it would be kind of hard on what noises would startle a fish. But a great vid and fun to learn by trial and error.
Cheers mate yeah was a fun little little experiment
Great video! I did have a giggle about the "rigular reg" though.
The sound of a fisherman wading really transmits underwater, but sometimes very difficult to locate fly in all the debris..
The sound of a anything like a cow, horse or human waking on the bank with undercuts, transmits right into the water..
I like the way your looking at things with this video. Thinking about some of the more subtle but very important aspects of chasing fish beyond what pattern to fish etc. I still think visually spooking fish is a thing in a lot of situations. I'm a expert at it and some of the biggest fish I've spooked hooned off when I never took a step, just poked my head over a bush or raised my rod to cast. Keep up the good work
Tom
A very interesting video, just goes to show how good a trout's vision and reactions are to spot, identify and catch a small nymph passing at that speed amongst all the debris. Most of my fishing is done in Scotland on stocked still waters (I'm an arthritic old sod) and the thing that stands out for me is how visible the nylon/fluorocarbon is. In still waters, the fish has as much time as it wants to examine the fly and leader and, after watching this video, it surprises me that I catch any fish at all - I guess 'stockies' are not very street-wise (nature-wise?). I've long been aware that when dry fly fishing the fish are usually spooked by a floating leader but I put that down to reflection from the leader and water surface as it 'bends' the surface film. After seeing this video I suspect there is much more to it. Looking forward to more videos along the same lines.
Very cool. Yeah , do it again.
That was really worthwhile & full credit to you for sifting through all that footage man! Must have taken ages. Would happily see that again in a different river & hope that your note about leaving CZcams is not a permanent thing. Would hate to lose you from here
great information!! cheers
Such a cool video. Great point about how trout can pick up real food with so much drifting by so fast. Be cool to see some of those shot in slo-mo. The flies drifted past so fast I missed them the first few times. We certainly don’t have many streams any clearer here in States. Keep these instructional pieces coming. 🙌🏼
Loved the video Gareth ,a friend of mine here in Ireland put a camera on his line when he was trolling for Ferox trout and some fish followed the bait for 20 minutes and a pike tried to swallow the camera, saw them myself.
This is what we-people see. What fish see is impossible to show. Trout see UV light and that changes everything so dramatically you cant even imagine.
Yeah obviously most people understand that. Also only young trout see UV. A mature trout sees almost no UV
Amazing insight.
Cheers bud
Cool video Gareth :) I've thought about doing a similar thing. I've wanted to just have someone film the strike, which would be really hard, after seeing your footage. Good stuff.
Trout have an amazing ability to see things out of the water as well surely? Have poked my head out over banks and bridges before only to spook fish instantly
Cool vid and nice camera hit!
Cheer
You and Dylan should collaborate on this one is my suggestion. I really enjoyed this video and I don’t think you are too far off from being able to get better data. Awesome video!
Sick video lived the idea was cool to get perspective from there world
Listening to the Orvis podcast I am pretty convinced fish do not hear you but rather they spoke because of shadows from either the fly line or indicators. Also I think in more still water the wake you push when you walk spooks them. Awesome video man.
Gotta say this was a great idea dude!! Killer video. Makes the brain think. 🤯
Great video mate 👍
Awesome video idea!
When you snagged your camera, and as you were tugging on the line, did you see the way the leader disturbed the surface of the water as you tugged? So if you snag on something on the bottom, and there are fish nearby, (or after you hook a fish and are reeling it in), you could definitely spook them while trying to get your line free and then they would be gone on your next cast.
More !!!!
Great video, really interesting results. Keen to see more like these bro.
Great video! You really can hear that split shot hit the water. Side note: i cant stop swinging flies on my microspey. Your videos are the best! Keep em coming man
Very interesting, love this sort of stuff! Definitely would like to see more 🤙
Love the educational video! Keep them coming!
Great video...I'm now even more amazed how the trout here in heavily fished Colorado waters pick out those tiny size 24 midges. One idea worth visiting is how the fish see our world through the trout circle and the trout's field of view. I have an article on sight fishing that was published by Colorado Fisherman a few years back which discusses that. I can send you a copy if interested. Knowing this is very helpful for stalking and sight fishing.
Amazing information. Thanks for sharing.
sweet as, keep the different vids coming. good stuff
It certainly does make u wonder how they identify an edible food source from all the debris going down the river. I can see how a round egg would stick out over anything else and presumably color plays a part somehow. Great video and interesting concept and I would love to see the same thing on a deeper and slower pool on the T
Really cool video Gareth. I enjoyed it a lot. One thing that I've been wondering, but would probably be really difficult to film / test, is about nymph presentation with an indicator vs tight lining. Supposedly, since surface water is faster than deeper water, an indicator drags the fly along a little bit faster than natural. Tight line nymphing with a thin leader is supposed to eradicate any drag & make the presentation more natural. I'm not convinced of a big difference in most scenarios, but it would be interesting to see the comparison with river debris.
Would love to see this type of video with some swing streamers. Both with them swinging past the cameras and on the hang at the end of the swing. Keep up the awesome videos.
This is awesome.
Have you tried setting the cameras up higher in the water coulomb? The angles change the shallower the fish comes right ? So maybe the higher the fish rises , the more it sees , the better it feels shocks and drops in water , just my 2 cents
The waytoohardy haha very cool idea 👍
great stuff mate, some true gems there. Be good to see streamers as well on the Tongariro and other smaller rivers like the Whakapapa
Awesome video dude, great idea. I've always found these type of fast flowing spring creeks a bit of a challenge, you get a good view of how the turbulence of the flow affects the direction of the drift and also kicks up so much debris and sediment. The Tongariro would probably look a lot different especially in the spots where it's more riffly with laminar flow rather than swirling the way it gets in some spots. Should be easier to see trout food and the flies would drift differently. Agree that sound is more important than we tend to think but I'm not sure they definitely can't see you in that situation, their eyes are positioned pretty far back, they've probably got a wider view and I think they're in tune with changes in their periphery. They're also possibly better adjusted to light and dealing with glare. You can see how sharp that contrast is of the skyline though, reminder of why keeping low and being in front of trees rather than casting an outline against sky behind you is super important. Would also be interesting to see what it's like a bit deeper if you're brave enough
Great video. Your camera design is great and will be good for catching how fish behave in different currents. Hip shot guess from me would be that your fly is missing a color match to the stream ecology. In my experience, matching color of a fly to stream ecology has to do with geology. For example, the caddis egg will live its stage in a sand or small gravel bed. The geology of this bed will directly affect the color of the nymph, emerger and dry. The gray pumice of this particular stream bed is going to be a tough one, but I have developed fly variations to match streams like this in Oregon. The answer is not going to be obvious like some stream ecology can be. Catch nymphs and match dubbing and biots to start. Have you tried building a dropper line using a triple surgeon's knot between the leader and tippet? It helps with line shy fish.
Something different bro, bloody awesome!
That's a very interesting prospective - thanks for taking the time out for research :-)
Taking my first trip to NZ in November to fly fish. Any advice for South Island near Nelson?
So interesting.
Well done professor trout hunter, good stuff
Excellent video.... would love to see the same on Tongariro and Hinemaiaia. As for noise I couldn't agree more. Its the reason I dont have metal studs on my boots, have always thought they made an unnatural sound on river rocks that alerted trout far to quickly!
awesome stuff!!
Love this, extremely informative!
Super interesting. Would be great to see what you find on the Tongariro. I never really considered sound too much in spooking fish.
Awesome vid. Did you do another version on a different river.
Great food for thought, I find if the fish are feeding they are concentrated on that, and if your down stream no issues, I agree with the bank vibration, when I sneak past sea trout who are generally spooky as fuck I really have to box past them well back and avoiding a silhouette. Thanks
Deciding what to eat is definitely determined by sight in some occasions but also trout will eat what they think looks like food and spit it back out if it is not what they wanted
I wonder if a fish eye lens would reveal more about their ability to see you? From another study, they stated the fish are able to see more in a sphere that reflects the bottom and a window above them.
Really sweet vid man, I've wanted to try this myself. Might be cool to try with a lens with a wider angle more representative of a fish's field of view, such as a fisheye. Also look up "Snell's window," so if you pointed the camera more upwards maybe you could see your movement on the banks.
Super interesting perspective 👍
Dude . awesome. Thanks for sharing. Look forward to seeing more like this. I've thought of something similar like a raft on a rope with a cam pointing down and looking at a run. To see what the lie is under water? Who knows might drift over a fish or two?
awesome video! !!! try putting your cameras back where the fish are then try jumping up and down on the bank and see if the audio can pick it up
awesome video and a great channel, keep up the good work
Great video Gareth
I like the way your thinking
Sweet video
Great video man. Would be interesting to see what the line glare would be with fluorocarbon compared to the nylon👍🏻
Cool vid dude, I enjoyed that. I know for certain if I were a trout, I would be a Slaaaaaaaab! I wouldn't be sure that a trout's underwater vision is equivalent to a gopro, so they may be better at seeing above water threats than a 'normal' camera tuned for human eyes. Very interesting to hear the plop and the footsteps. Could you tell the difference between your natural drifts versus gash drifts?
Nice video, trout don’t have our/camera vision though, wider view and have different visual pigments, so you’d need (to get closer) some multispectral filters over the lens of each etc... still excellent video though!
Be good to see one on streamers
Nice video, next time you should so some streamers
that would be actually cool. And maybe try also streamers in still water part of river or lake just to see how it looks from the fish perspective
Really interesting video would love to see more like it would be interesting to see what it is like in uv light if that’s possible 🤔
I'd like to see a streamer getting swung and then twitched cross current. Just a thought :) Keep up the good work!
Bravo vid
Sweet videos love them
Test the nylon versus fluorocarbon. You must not be as burnt out as you thought if you are already back. Cheers
What about that one brown we went after and never moved till I poked it? Lol. Great stuff.
I slowed it to .75x speed and boy did you sound stoned, but a great film on this subject is the underwater water world of trout, you can just search that up on youtube, it's free and it 's fantastic
It's a really good idea but it's next to impossible to recreate what a fish sees because of the ways their eyes are placed on their head there is a really really in depth video on The New Fly Fisher page here on CZcams it's like 2 hours about how trout see in water
Could you test different types of indicators as well?
How fast is the water running?
Do u have to have two fly’s on ur rig
How long of a leader do you use?
Saludos a migo que buen video y que buen lugar
Thank you for this excellent work. Check out the video series by Ozzie, The Underwater World of Trout. I bought the series and found it a game changer. The DVDs are Discovery, Feeding Lies, Trout Vision and Refraction, and Not Just Trout. Definitely get the Trout Vision (Vol. 3). Also on CZcams: czcams.com/video/c-csJ_k6xaU/video.html
Ozzie also happens to be in our local Trout Unlimited chapter.
I will add that from his video the trout are most certainly seeing you in most scenarios excluding very turbulent water and moderately stained conditions. The refraction is a big part of this as well and as Ozzie states the color of your clothing. At our TU meetings he even talks about "rod shine". His videos clearly show the glint from the fly rod as seen from a trouts perspective. Again, it is a game changer video. Now I even put my fishing license on my back because of this instead of on my chest.
what does he mean by 'category 3' fly ?
Like where you’re going here this is great.
Good one Gareth. I think that you are on the right track. Have a look at the videos by “Underwater World of Trout by www.underwateroz.com” I found it gave me some interesting views. Harera