Nerfs, buffs or just plain BALANCE - the latest teasers on the Thousand Sons Codex discussed

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  • čas přidán 6. 09. 2024

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  • @Seanovan
    @Seanovan Před 3 lety +8

    I feel like the limits on Tzaangors and Cultists are the price we have to pay to get the new cheaper points cost. I'll gladly take that trade.

  • @teessidetyrants1989
    @teessidetyrants1989 Před 3 lety

    Great to have you back OABG

  • @neckutter
    @neckutter Před 3 lety

    Scarab Occult Termis being powerful is fantastic

  • @IDICBeer
    @IDICBeer Před 3 lety +1

    Good luck getting your copy

    • @OldAverageBritGaming
      @OldAverageBritGaming  Před 3 lety

      Well it was a farce. In by basket on GW site as soon as it was available. Go to pay and out of stock. Utter crap. It’s in my damn basket it should not be OOS at that point. Had to order from an online retailer which I hope gets enough copies

    • @IDICBeer
      @IDICBeer Před 3 lety

      @@OldAverageBritGaming :(

  • @mkulchar
    @mkulchar Před 3 lety

    Also a studio channel a couple army build lists recommendations / walkthroughs as that really help out people especially me. Wink wink

    • @OldAverageBritGaming
      @OldAverageBritGaming  Před 3 lety

      I’ll be doing that don’t worry! My older videos will be updated with my take on sample builds for friendly themed and maybe more comp focussed builds at various levels. I’ll try and break it down into nice bite sized chunks too👍👍

  • @OverboardDM
    @OverboardDM Před 3 lety

    Wait for the whole picture. Let's get the codex before we judge.

    • @OldAverageBritGaming
      @OldAverageBritGaming  Před 3 lety

      Exactly!!! And the results from today’s people with early copies looks very promising.

  • @joshuagraham5422
    @joshuagraham5422 Před 3 lety +1

    The newest leaks are looking good i think you will like them. Thousand sons play as interesting as they are. Not part of the codex creep but thats a good thing.

    • @OldAverageBritGaming
      @OldAverageBritGaming  Před 3 lety +1

      Yeah my thoughts too. Not codex creep victims but enough tricks and utility to make a good game of it which is all I ever want!

  • @primafacie5029
    @primafacie5029 Před 3 lety

    Not sure about some of the CP costs... they seem a little off BUT the tendency in the new codexes is towards being expensive

    • @OldAverageBritGaming
      @OldAverageBritGaming  Před 3 lety

      Yeah the main crutch strats for all factions so far went up so makes sense. But equally we gain CP per turn these days so no biggie for me

  • @DatOldeBiker
    @DatOldeBiker Před 3 lety

    Nice review Nick, I suspect that your views may seem too balanced for some 'Sons' officianados however. I do like to see a codex which gives a range of buffs in keeping with the army background - This may be pretty good in that respect. :>)

    • @OldAverageBritGaming
      @OldAverageBritGaming  Před 3 lety +1

      I’ll be as truthful as I can but usually as you know try and find the positive spin if I can. World is negative enough as it is 💪

  • @cooprey
    @cooprey Před 3 lety

    All pre ordered, my initial thoughts are positive

    • @OldAverageBritGaming
      @OldAverageBritGaming  Před 3 lety

      Good stuff. From those that released content on their review copies it seems more positive than negative. Except from those that wouldn’t be happy unless we all have 2++ saves and unlimited range mega Smite’s and re-rolls for 1cp 🤣🤣🤣

  • @legocult
    @legocult Před 3 lety +2

    I'm still waiting for what will happen with the summoning of demons, without them all those small changes will be meaningless, since the vehicle has too few units and their combinations. Perhaps it will remain only with the new miniature and in a very stripped-down form-throw 4+ that Tzinch did not deceive you. Throw 3+ that you signed the contract. Throw 2+ that the demons agreed with him :) It will be hard without the Lord of Change. The phalanx is useful for a squad of 10-20, do not forget that the vehicle has a lot of CP and the ability of a free stratagem once per game.

    • @OldAverageBritGaming
      @OldAverageBritGaming  Před 3 lety

      Daemon handling will be interesting. I didn’t do it a huge amount but often ran a daemon patrol. Will this impact the cabal rule if we are not pure codex army wide or not? Can we even summon at all. Not long to find out I guess

  • @hrvojegrgic-akovic5552
    @hrvojegrgic-akovic5552 Před 3 lety +1

    i think 5 man rubrics will be the norm. They are very durable now, and maybe only taking 10 as a teleporting flame blob with heavy strat use as an alpha strike? More units will give us more board control, which is key in 9th. Compared to other marines, 5++ and dust is a great durability buff on our troops, and the bolters have the strongest ap values

    • @jorgenava2021
      @jorgenava2021 Před 3 lety

      We still haven’t seen owed bolters do

    • @hrvojegrgic-akovic5552
      @hrvojegrgic-akovic5552 Před 3 lety

      @@jorgenava2021 i think they are unchanged with optio to go to s5 with master buff so brootal
      But a 10man flamer rubric squad with - 1hit and duplicity will melt any 1 unit and draw fire from the entireopposing army allowing for us to control the entire game
      They will die, but the shooting needed to kill them will be enormous
      And vharges eill be required. And then autohit ap2 str 5 or 6 flamers will kill a unit. 300 points well spent imo

    • @OldAverageBritGaming
      @OldAverageBritGaming  Před 3 lety

      5 man rubrics and possibly 10 man Scarab looks doable judging by today’s influencer early codex owner content

  • @TheKitchpp26
    @TheKitchpp26 Před 3 lety

    Got my order in 1st thing this morning - really quite excited for what the other changes are. I look forward to seeing the full spread of psychic powers. It looks like we are heading from the bottom to the middle tier, not OP, so we will not lose friends when we play, but can surprise if played well.

    • @OldAverageBritGaming
      @OldAverageBritGaming  Před 3 lety

      Nice!! Yeah I’m glad we are not heading down the Ad Mech route and going too of the pile with codex creep. I just want a fair fight v all comers and hopefully this new book gives us that chance👍

  • @jorgenava2021
    @jorgenava2021 Před 3 lety +1

    I like som rules . I need to see moar .

    • @OldAverageBritGaming
      @OldAverageBritGaming  Před 3 lety

      Yeah we deffo need the big picture. The powers are going to be so critical and what warp change they will be set to

  • @oscaryshiroma8250
    @oscaryshiroma8250 Před 3 lety

    So Ive been reading the codex and from what I get so far (correct me if I'm wrong) when upgrading your exalted sorcerer could you also upgrade ahriman with the rehati option from legion command? Since ahriman has the exalted sorcerer keyword. Can't find the restriction for him on that upgrade.

    • @OldAverageBritGaming
      @OldAverageBritGaming  Před 3 lety +1

      As mentioned on the other reply, its based on the unit/model type not the keyword they have, so I dont believe Ahriman can take a Legion Upgrade :)

  • @jorgenava2021
    @jorgenava2021 Před 3 lety +1

    Not shoure about the change to all is dust. 😥

    • @OldAverageBritGaming
      @OldAverageBritGaming  Před 3 lety

      With the added wounds it might be a bit much to have the inv save impact but time will tell when we get gaming with the changes!

  • @dbwjlh
    @dbwjlh Před 3 lety

    Can't wait for the whole review. Loved the video.

    • @OldAverageBritGaming
      @OldAverageBritGaming  Před 3 lety +1

      Cheers. I might not be first with all the news as I’m not on that early copy freebie list with GW but hopefully ill be more in depth and focussed 👌

    • @dbwjlh
      @dbwjlh Před 3 lety

      @@OldAverageBritGaming its way more interesting to hear the news from a Thousand sons veteran.

    • @OldAverageBritGaming
      @OldAverageBritGaming  Před 3 lety

      Thanks! Maybe one day GW might put me on that freebie list🤣 but until that day comes I’ll work with what I have👍

  • @mkulchar
    @mkulchar Před 3 lety

    With the codex out at least for CZcamsrs etc what do you think. I'm not overly impressed but I guess better than nothing. I would really like to see the vortex beast good. Also would love to see Magnus played more as I just got him finished and painted and had yet to field him yet

    • @OldAverageBritGaming
      @OldAverageBritGaming  Před 3 lety

      From what I’ve managed to see and read today from those with early copies I don’t think it’s terrible. I’m glad it’s just not an auto buy for the competitive meta players to give us a bad rep, there’s plenty to be positive about I feel.

    • @Miggy19779
      @Miggy19779 Před 3 lety

      @@OldAverageBritGaming 6 losses out of 6 games on CZcams. I don't see anything to be optimistic about. It's a turd of a codex.

    • @OldAverageBritGaming
      @OldAverageBritGaming  Před 3 lety

      In defence of the codex, it was played using bad lists by non pure TS players who had the book for just a few days. TTT game vs Grey Knights is like rock v scissors. They had no anti tank, no anti flyer, and in the hands of an experienced tournament player. Give it time.

    • @Miggy19779
      @Miggy19779 Před 3 lety

      @@OldAverageBritGaming most of the games were played against grey knights which is also a new codex so same new codex syndrome applies to them. And still GK won all of the matches.

  • @RevanR
    @RevanR Před 3 lety

    "Another bite the dust..."
    Interesting take on the Thousand sons

    • @OldAverageBritGaming
      @OldAverageBritGaming  Před 3 lety +1

      The released content so far looks actually promising. Not OP and not useless so I’m happy with what I’ve seen mostly today so far

  • @TrueDaemonLord
    @TrueDaemonLord Před 3 lety +2

    It never should have affected invuls to be fair.
    Too janky.

    • @OldAverageBritGaming
      @OldAverageBritGaming  Před 3 lety

      Probably yeah. A few armies I think had the odd rules where armour or inv was not specific and lead to some ugly combos. This was a chance to reset a few clocks on those save mechanics.

  • @M.S.G.95
    @M.S.G.95 Před 3 lety +2

    Excellent video mate, as a Death Guard player it’s awesome to see the Dusty Bois get a massive improvement so far, I hope it continues.
    The VOTLW stratagem was to be expected as we had the same change in our codex, it was a super strong stratagem for any CSM army so I think GW wants us to not spam it like a lot of CSM players did in 8th.
    Either way, the +1 Strength to ranged weapons power will be extremely good, especially with your high AP guns and the amount of shots you’ll be putting out.

    • @OldAverageBritGaming
      @OldAverageBritGaming  Před 3 lety +1

      Yeah totally expected really. Such a crutch strat used every turn on repeat. With units going up in T there has to be a good counter with some way to increase S to have a chance. Adding that boost to warp Flamers or maybe a Contemptor with double heavy bolters…