Am I the only one that thought Thor looks so tired? His eyes just look like he’s done with everything. Just shows how even Gods have emotions even with how strong they are
It does make sense. He's behind the reason why giants are basically gone from the realm short of Loki. The main reason hes depressed is due to losing his children already.
When Odin calls Thor's sons useless and starts praising Baldur, the way Thor turns his head is brilliant. It shows the pain he feels but has to supress because of Odin. Thor's character was a superb achievement of this game.
Thor should've teamed up with kratos and take him down. But... He was tired and exhausted.. just like sutr. He couldn't live up to anyone's expectations and left everyone disappointed. He couldn't get what he wanted... His life was miserable.
He wasn't really even praising Baldur either. He see's his sons as tools to be used. Baldur to Odin had "value" "uses". Baldur was his tracker and Thor was his killer. They both were desperate for their Fathers attention and love, something they never got.
I get the impression from their first meeting with Thor, that Thor had quit drinking for some time, probably with the help from his wife and daughter. He doesn't drink the mead, even when Odin puts the cup right in front of him prompting him to do so, and telling him he's no fun anymore. So it was really heartbreaking to me when Thrud found him drunk in the tavern.
I think that was because he realized he indirectly caused Modi's death in a fit of rage. Atreus might be the one who dealt the killing blow, but Thor was the one who broke Modi's spirit.
Reminds me of Chris and Tony’s relationship in the Sopranos Tony sends Chris to rehab, just to make sure he’d be better use and to stop being such a fuck up But when he became sober, he was useless. He wasn’t one of the guys anymore, he was “high and mighty”, no fun anymore, so he offers Chris a glass of wine
All the Aesir would be fine if it werent for Odin. Odin was the poison amongst them. He was a narcissist who loved to turn his family against themselves whilst simultaneously keeping them deferrent to himself.
Thor's battle with alcoholism is very well executed. The way he inhales the tumbler of meade, the way he rubs it on Miljnor, every inch of him aches to take a sip but he dare not fall of the wagon. Just goes to show that addictions never really leave you.
@@pickleo2756 No amount of holding back makes your skin softer Even if Kratos was holding back Thor killing him was still a pretty big feat And yes Thor did kill him
True. Despite hes a little less bloodlusted than what i imagine from what Mimir told us in 2018 but thats ~100 years ago(in game time) so maybe he changed. Anyway, a very well writen character.
@@juarezm.6737 in-game, mimir tells stories of the past, and many of which are as he said 90 or more years ago. They are about gods so the big time difference is a given
There were people who didn’t like thors design when it was revealed I thought it suited him perfectly. Also Thor’s hammer I think in myth it was really heavy so props to kratos making a damn good table
Marvel fans. They expect thor to always be ripped and healthy but endgame thor is actually more accurate. Thor in the myths drank a lot of the ocean and ate 2 goats everyday and that was just one of his meals. And aesirs or Vikings in general usually drank a lot. Thor is accurate here.
@@TheRealGazebo bear Thor is actually much preferrable as a character to this wierd himbo comic relief Thor in the MCU. This kinda seems like the version of fat Thor that would have fit the tone of Endgame better. Broken, introverted, dejected, at the end of his rope, but still capable and able to be loveable without being a total idiot who does nothing but make cringey jokes. I enjoyed seeing him with his family and how he tries for them even though he fucks up.
@@noamias4897 that's how he wants you to view him a feeble old man. The Odin in this game is a manipulative narcissist who is incredibly powerful and also very abusive of his family turning them into this playthings or muscle to throw at "inconvenient" problems
Odin is actually not a very "good" guy in lore, he is know as-- besides Allfather and such, as Segerfader. Which means Father and Victory, he's the ends justify the means kind of figure and he's the king of the gods because he doesn't lose. Employing underhanded tricks would not be beneath him and any advantage would be leveraged for victory. I have not played the games but I just had to see how the norse pantheon was portrayed here and I think the mafia boss kind of thing makes him more relatable to us modern mortals in general, haha
I love how they portrayed Thor trying to stay sober, he looked like he had difficulty trying to keep alcohol off his mind as he uses his fingers to dab some of the drink on his hammer and starts smelling the cup. Even when Odin puts the cup infront of him Thor looks away. He obviously wants to drink again but he can’t because he knows that he is a family man and has to be there for them after magni and modi died
He was honestly one of the most likeable characters in hind sight. Watching him trying to change and finally succeeding made his death immediately after that so painful. He had sobered up but leaving the drink meant nothing if he stayed with his abusive father.
When I first heard of him in GOW 4, I thought he was gonna be the boss I'd enjoy to put down, but now he is my most favorited character in the whole game
His voice actor has the best angry voice i've ever heard. Dude has gravel in his voice that drips with rage and pain. Perfect voice for an awesome rendition of Thor
"What is this?! Are you broken?!" Just goes to show that Odin looked at his own son as nothing more than a toy he could throw at whoever he hated. The lack of hesitation he has when killing Thor is pure psychopathic; Thor's refusal was a direct insult to Odin's obsessive aspect of control, and with that insult, Odin instantly chose death. I’m genuinely surprised how well they’ve fleshed out the characters in this franchise. Masterpiece
It made me even sadder at how Odin tries to justify himself for killing Thor. But there was no hesitation at all. The moment Thor stood up for himself Odin outright murdered him. He may not have even touched Odin, Thor maybe wouldn't have wanted more death on his family. But to Odin? When his faithful hound had even the seed of doubt, he had to be killed and apologise later.
When Thor was finally convinced by Kratos, it isn't noticeable but you can see him nodding ever so slightly to him and agreeing that they should be better people and become more than just destroyers but at that EXACT MOMENT you immediately hear Odin coming with his teleporting Ravens and talking Thor down. It's like he sensed that his son was about to switch sides and immediately tried to get him back but when Thor finally made his decision to stand up to him, he killed him. He even blames Atreus and Kratos for his own actions like he doesn't want to feel guilty or can't comprehend that he killed his own son. He only sees people close to him as expendable and doesn't take responsibility once he 'disposes' of them and he uses his friendly looking charisma to lure in people that might be of use to him
Can I just say how much of a cool idea it is to have him summon Mjolnir by snapping? It adds such a prideful arrogance to his character. Like he doesn't respect the weapon, he expects it to come when commanded.
Also the contrast to how Kratos handles his axe, like at 1:54 when Thor slams down his hammer on the table then Kratos carefully sets down his axe with both hands. It's such a small detail, yet it adds so much to the characters.
@@Chernobog34 I think it’s because Leviathan was Faye’s & aside from their son his only piece he still has of her. Which is why he treats it so gently & shows respect for the weapon
Why is beer-belly Thor significantly more threatening and awesome than six-pack, beach-body Thor… Also, I was really surprised how deep of a character Thor is in this game. You can see just how ashamed he is of himself, and how stressed and depressed he is throughout the game. You can tell he wants to rebel against Odin, but never does due to Odin’s manipulation. And this game is still a masterpiece in 2024 :)
I mean it makes sense considering that GOW’s Thor closely resembles his description in Norse Mythology. Chris Hemsworth’s Thor just kill people by showing himself buck naked to them
Honestly, it was sad to see Thor go through so much. He wasn't even the "bad guy", he was just manipulated by his own father and treated as nothing but a killing machine. Plus the fact that Thor seems like a genuinely likeable guy, if it weren't for his family problems, and Modi and Magni striking first, I feel like he'd be an ally to our main cast.
I know I am very late to this, but Thor was known as the god of men. He made the most frequent visits to Midgard (earth) to talk, drink and laugh with mortals. So him being more likable than most other Norths gods is right on the money.
Wow, I love Thors design here. He is insanely intimidating yet tired, looks like he can't even lift his hammer. He is fat, but somehow it suits him so well. He moves slowly, but with power. He is fed up with certain things, yet he won't stop. Even Gods are not without flaws
He has the physique of a strongman because yes they do work out but they eat a LOT to feed their muscles which is why they are so strong so all that fat is most likely very hard which why kratos axe didn't go as deep as it would another's
@@proudsaiyanprince2651 never said they were good qualities, as a character it makes him way more interesting and a fat drunk was basically what he was described as in the myths
His design is so cool! The tats are placed well and I love his body type, you don't need visible muscles to be strong asf. The best part is him being a redhead, it fits him way better than blonde!
Of course, I thought from secret ending was heavy muscular build, but no ... This design appearance was fit! I like this version rather than MCU princess blondie
@@omgheather1 This could be the closest we get to a mythological Thor in terms of looks. The red hair and beard, his massive stature, his temperament, everything is there.
Love that Thor is simultaneously a foil to Kratos and Atreus. Like Kratos, he was manipulated by the gods into being a killing machine. Like Atreus, he’s a half giant that’ll go to great lengths to appease his emotionally distant father. Thor is essentially what either of them could have turned into had they not fostered a healthy, redemptive relationship with each other.
I love how when Thor shows up, he's polite enough to ask if he can come in while on the other hand, Odin just waltzes inside, grabs a chair, and starts drinking as if he owns the place.
In the first meeting between Thor and Kratos, the amount of characterization and the sheer quality of the writing, even with how few words spoken between Thor and Kratos, is just amazing. Perhaps one of the best scenes in all of gaming. Literally perfect.
It's not perfect. It's missing raging thunder, lightning, pourng rain, and snowstorms throughout the bossfight. They really messed that part up with no weather even though it's against Thor, the god of thunder.
@@TheFirstCurse1I'm sure there was lightning crashing down around the temple and the ice pit during the fight because of Thor because I remember how badass he looked at the times when he was framed in front of the lightning during the fight
@@thewhitespectre Maybe, but it's still bad writing because he should have been showing off his power to intimidate Kratos and the player. Plus it'd give both a flashback to Zeus and his power.
"There are many differences between Thor and his brother Baldur. Baldur fought wildly, his motivation to inflict pain. Thor is calmer-his bloodlust is for the fight itself, not for the suffering it inflicts. The full force of his attack is as heavy as any I have felt. The hammer, Mjölnir, only compounds his power...each blow echoes with the death and destruction they have wrought together. He chose to end our fight prematurely. It is good for both of us that it did not reach its conclusion." -Kratos
I like that Thor was teased to be a evil god who doesn’t care about anyone but himself but later revealed in ragnarok that he actually cares about his fallen sons and daughter and is just in pain from odins selfishness
His sons fualt for literally attacking Kratos and atreus in the first place karts nor atreus purpose was not to kill but rather kill anyone that goes in there way or kill anyone that's there's to try and attack them
This portrayal of Thor exceeded my expectations. Ryan Hurst and the folks at Santa Monica Studio did an excellent job on crafting this character. Thor was terrifying, intimidating, savage, badass and tragic. Loved this character
Yeah because they are basically the same character. Controlled by their father, hates their father, a God (well Thor is a Giant killer) killer, and are both destroyers.
Thor : "Take one more step, you're not gonna' like how this ends.." Heimdall: Rly? and how do you intend to stop me..? Thor: "Look into my eyes.." Heimdall was about to get Press-Circle Minigamed by Thor for some Red Orbs.
I said it once and i will say it again, i really prefer this rendition of the Aesir, and specifically Thor, to Marvel's. In this one you can really understand that nordic culture, despite it's beauty and greatness, is not flashy, a point Heimdall affirms in this game, and has a lot of sadness, violence and trauma. That is also a feeling you can get by playing Hellblade.
Marvel's Aesir (meaning Marvel Comics, not the butchering done by the MCU) are also explorativie of the pagan origins of Thor. Such as one story where Thor is on Earth during the Viking Age and he witnesses how pagans kill innocents in the name of Norse Gods and that terrifies him, and he asks Odin to let him show those barbarians the fault of their ways, but Odin says that they have to figure it out themselves.
@@antona.8659 Ok, that comment about "butchering done by the MCU" feels disingenuous to me because it's partly not entirely the studio's fault. The whole point of making MCU Thor more comedic after Age of Ultron (his last mostly serious appearance that's not Infinity War) was because people didn't connect with this version of him and his films weren't that well received (look at Thor: The Dark World). That's the whole point of his character shift starting from Ragnarok onwards. And let's not forget people loved that change in that film. BTW, explanation doesn't equal justification. Do I think they took it too far? Yes, but I think it's unfair to place all the blame on Marvel. I just want to enjoy both interpretations of this character without needlessly dunking on one to gas up another.
@@aurabender150 1. It's not disingenuous if it's true. And what I said is true. 2. Oh, sure it is the studio's fault. It's always their fault, as they're the ones in charge of the franchise. 3. Well, see? It's their fault for assuming too much without thinking first. Thor The Dark World didn't connect because it was dull and boring. Being serious has nothing to do with it, as it wasn't that either. 4. I don't care what's the point of that. The point is that it has no point and makes no sense. It character assassinated Thor, made him an idiot, killed his best friends for comedy and never had him reflect on that, and botched the whole story of Asgard, on top of being a mess which makes no sense.
@@antona.8659 That's fair because you're not wrong. I wasn't trying discredit other's opinions and perspectives, I was just sharing mine. GoW Thor has the advantage of NOT being tied to a to a massive comic book inspired franchise made to appeal to all audiences and can go all in on character exploration and real Norse lore. Let's both agree that this version is amazing. :)
I do understand that he needed yo die, but i hoped he would get redemption qrc come full circle, voice actor did a heck of a job and i was rly touched by thors story...
I love in this game Odin is so enthusiastic when conversing with Loki and in his way he shows a certain cares for him while disregarding and talking down to Thor. Exact opposite situation of MCU Odin
Thor is what Kratos could've stayed as. A weapon for his father, broken man and father, his battle with Alcohol and his depressed rage is what Kratos could've been had he gone down and stayed in the path of vengeance and murder. It's such a crazy story and dynamic to see the polar opposites in father's but the one fact is they both love their children. In their own way of course.
Thor and Odins character designs, personalities and voice acting were so well done, alongside Heimdall and Baldur this Norse saga has one of the best collections of Video Game villains of all time. Thor was perfect and didn't really surprise me with his arc, but Odins personality and mannerisms were a real curve ball and I loved it
Man, after going through this game my thoughts have changed on Thor. SPOILERS BELOW SO DON'T READ IF YOU HAVEN'T SEEN! . . . . . . When I first saw that opening scene with Thor in Kratos and Atreus's home he seemed ominous and threatening. But now understanding how broken and tired he is, it hits different. That whole "You seem like a calm and reasonable person" line felt like a threat from a mafia enforcer the first time I saw it, but now reads more like someone trying to relate through trauma and not being able to fully admit it. I was fully ready to hate Thor as the murderous psychopath he was made out to be in the previous game, but now I just see him as an earlier version of Kratos. What a brilliant tragedy.
he defenitely is a mirror of Kratos, both gods did committed horrible atrocities. Sometimes due to the influence of other gods (Ares and Odin), but sometimes just to be a dick. I think that Thor just drowned his sorrows in booze while Kratos found healing through Faye, then eventually his son.
My thoughts exactly. I came to this game fully prepared to put Thor down like some kind of rabid mad dog. But as the game continued, I wanted to learn and hear more from him. I wanted to see him grow. To take a similar path of growth that Kratos did. Which is exactly why his death pissed me off so much. We barely get any time to see him in the game and now we'll probably never get anything more from him. It's such a waste of what could've likely been a really good character. Honestly, I'd even go so far as to say he could've had his own DLC or game series. It just sucks. Narrative wise, his death makes sense but that still doesn't mean I have to like it. I want Thor back. And I want Ryan Hurst to voice him.
Really feel for Thor he took so much abuse from Odin and you see how it goes down to his own family if only he had valued his wife and kids more maybe he could have turned his back on Odin. there were so many great charcaters in this game hope they make a new IP and keep up with this kind of story telling.
Thor deserved to live and be entirely redeemed. He and Kratos would have been best friends. At the very least they let him stand up to Odin before he died.
Could you imagine if Thor was killed in his first fight with Kratos? The second most powerful god? That’s exactly what happened with Poseidon. While I’ll always love GOW 3 and how each boss is introduced, they’re isn’t much buildup. In GOW 1, the bosses scale up until we finally battle Ares. In GOW 3, the bosses scale down. We go down from Poseidon to Hades, Helios, Hermes, Hercules then the Scorpion monster before slaying Zeus. Kinda weird.
Thor: is awesome because he's THOR GOD OF THUNDER, gets drunk and gets in bar fights, fights monsters and gods. Also Thor: bullied and abused by his own father, drinks heavily to self-medicate, is treated like a tool and most likely hates himself, is a bad father, pushes his family away because of his self-destructive tendencies. Damn, I feel sorry for the big guy 😢
My favorite level and scene in the entire game is inside the bar. Absolutely perfect. Shows exactly who Thor is. Absolutely love God of War. Greatest franchise ever made in my book and the fact that the new games not only hold a candle to the originals but brighten the fires of the blades of chaos themselves they are knocking it out of the park.
'I have mead!' Is one of my favourite lines. Its so simple but it shows how thor loves drinking and its accurate to norse mythology where he would eat tons and drink of food and beer.
Noticing his first scene, where he "brings mead" and doesnt drink any of it, but still smells it, rubs it into Mjolnir, was really subtle forward thinking writing. Also Odin picking the cup down and slamming it down in front of him as if to say "Drink it" and telling him "youre no fun anymore". Just the sheer lengths of his abuse to Thor, that actvely encouraged his drinking and reckless behaviour as "entertainment" to him.
It doesn't feel like it's just Thor and Kratos who have a rivalry, but their weapons, Mjolnir and the Leviathan Axe, also feel like they have a rivalry as well.
Sad as it is to see Thor relapse, that mission with the bar fight in Asgard is amazing. One of my favorites in the whole game. It was a nice comedic break from the serious drama going on.
Dare I say I FREAKIN LOVE THIS THOR, like Ik its a lot to ask but what if they made a spin off game about him and him trying to find redemption now that his father has betrayed him. And he can use his powers for good and not for slaughtering the good. I mean imagine the combat. This game is beautiful.
I hope for DLC, the missions with him as a companion show, he's got plenty of the necessary animations to be playable; light combos, heavy combos, ranged attacks, even idle run and sprinting animation
I did not expect that the death which would bring me the most sadness would be Thor of all people. In all reality he was just an incredibly powerful but altogether simple man. All he had desired was a loving family, a good drink, a good brawl, but first and foremost, the approval of his father. It just so happened his father was a horrid, manipulative, demeaning, genocidal maniac who wished only for a hammer to crush his enemies, not a son. So through his pursuit to gain this approval he watched himself slowly commit increasingly brutal atrocities to the point where, from fear of persecution, he began to try and force himself to believe he enjoyed what he was commanded to do. Then when the shame became too much to bear, binge drinking was his curative. A level of alcoholism that only brought him more shame by estranging him from his family and leading him to spill more innocent blood. Truly a tragic and ironic life in the worst of ways. Due to the nature of all the ways he attempted to cope with the vile deeds he committed in the name of his father he then lost everything else that mattered to him: his enjoyment of drinking, his love of battle, the love and health of his family, and most tragically, he never gained the admiration or love of his father anyway as Odin simply had none to give. Thor was on the brink of redemption when he finally denied his father's wishes, but instead it was cruelly taken from him, forcing him to remain forever in the memories of others as a brutal, merciless, and foolish monster. He could've changed.
Yeah, I was... Really hoping he wouldn't die because he could've really changed. That moment when he finally accepts that he doesn't have to remain a monster, a destroyer, it hit hard because then and there he had decided that he would walk the a new path, for his family. Just to be killed beforehand. Man, sometimes I wish things could've been different.
I've personally come to believe that when he dies, he passes into Valhalla. Thor died fighting the toughest battle of his life: saying "No" to his father and standing up to him once and for all. Part of why I believe this is for a few reasons: 1) the God of War games play fast and loose with established mythologies, and it's implied that the only reason those who die in battle are worthy of Valhalla is because it's a carefully crafted narrative Odin concocted -- from the Path of the Traveler to the Einherjar codex -- all so he could get a bigger and better army. 2) In 2018 God of War, Mimir notes that the gods have their own way of getting to Valhalla and don't rely on the Valkyries. 3) Even so, the Valkyries are able to escort "the worthy", and they did so with the living in Asgard to Midgard (which is decidedly not their purview, but within their ability). So why couldn't they escort someone like Thor to Valhalla despite not dying in a literal battle? 4) Freya even notes that despite the destruction of Asgard, Valhalla exists both "in and out of Asgard", and that it continues to exist in the post game. A few dialogue entries indicate that the Einherjar will die and return to Valhalla. 5) It also keeps the tears at bay. I do feel like killing him was a waste (the overall intention of Odin striking Thor in front of Thrud would still have worked if he was alive), but damn if it didn't still hurt.
100% agreed. There's a unique pain in watching a flawed character cut down on the path to their redemption. For what it's worth Thor was a born a slave to the bond he tried to create with his father, and he was exploited as a tool both physically and emotionally to the point of him becoming numb to virtually everything else in his life. Thor lived a joyless life as a result, and before he could even begin to look somewhere else for that joy he was executed. He symbolizes just how fucked up of a person Odin was, and they wrote it all so beautifully.
For some reason, after the ending, I've got this feeling that atleast either Kratos or Atreus are going to play devil's advocate, after seeing what kind of man he really was, could have been, or was trying to be. They might not sing his praises, or defend him to those he has wronged, but, I feel like they're going to give him the respect he deserved, even if he was misled.
Am I the only one disappointed by Thor's lack of presence and screen-time? With how the first game ended with the most badass cliffhangers of all time with Thor literally turning up to your doorstep and how much he was hyped in Mimir's stories and Ragnarok's marketing, I was very underwhelmed with the Thor we got in this game. He wasn't even much of an antagonist in the game as much as I would like with Thor being overshadowed by Odin. Baldur on the other hand had a constant presence in the first game with him constantly following you and having multiple fights with him. Aside from the first and last fight with Thor, he really didn't do much of anything. I think if you removed Thor in this game, the story would've still function as normal and I don't quite like that. He should've had much more a presence than just being a spectacle. Yeah there were emotional moments with him but they could've given him way more.
Only issue is Thor is meant to be an intimidating and hype boss fight. In the first battle he literally kills you and constantly regenerates health to show you he means business, unlike Baldur who was more of a persistent nuisance. Having thor constantly fight you would kinda ruin the hype of fighting again which is what makes the rematch so fun; you fight the first true boss again at the finale to prove you improved over the course of the game
They shouldve had thor team up with kratos and fight odin. Thor gives himself up to take down odin. But I think odin shouldve been portrayed better. Hes supposed to be big and masculine, and they chose to portray him as a balding skinny little man. Odin himself was a warrior and a magician. Thor shouldve been a little angrier, and had way more screen time. And his boss fight felt way too easy to me. I wouldve liked to see longer fights with thor and alot more variety.
@@AudioJeep Odin is more like a mob boss or an overseer of sorts. He never does anything himself unless he has to. He always gets someone else to do it. In this way hes portrayed perfectly
@@AudioJeep he isn't supposed to be big and masculine, most of eddas represent him just like an old man who is obssesed with knowledge, capable of sacrificing his own life just to learn more, he also does some hunt tho
Odin: I know! Let's threaten the man who killed his entire pantheon of Gods because he wanted vengeance! WHAT COULD GO WRONG!? Kratos: *laughs in Deicide*
The Irish and Scandinavians are very different, though there was a lot of Norse influence in Gaelic Ireland at some points. The Irish had the Tuatha De Danann, and their own mythological figures
Thor was tired and sick. Mentally by the tortures of Odin making him feel like a worm with zapping abilities, and physically by the Leviathan Axe’s poison. He would make a great father if not by Odin’s paranoia. Hell, I even believe Odin made Thor beat up Modi in the first place.
I would have really liked things were different for him, that he survived and made his own journey of redemption just like Kratos, even, that he went with Atreus to find the rest of the giants and paying them the blood debt by aiding them.
What's really missing in Thor's first boss fight is raging thunder, lightning, pouring rain, and so much snow that it's hard to see him. He's the God Of Thunder and can control the weather, and in the game thunder booms when he's angry. But here, in arguably the most well known and influential boss fight in the new GOW games? It's a blank, dark sky.
On the mural that depicts the future where Kratos is worshipped across the realms, there's a figure just behind him on the right that looks distinctly like Thor. I've compared it to the death mural at Angrboda's Treehouse, same physical expression and girth, with clearly defined side armor and a belt. Thor might actually return.
Odin is known to be a bit of a trickster and a master of disguise. He probably talks like that to make people underestimate Him. Gives people a false sense of security which Odin can take advantage of
"....but you're a Giant. And I will revel in killing you too." That line. That line didn't sound like he actually meant it. There was no pleasure in his voice. He sounded like he was trying to force himself into feeling it. Like he was resigning himself into believing that he was nothing more than a Destroyer. But he doesn't sound like he will revel in it. He sounds tired...like it's just the same old song and dance over and over again. It sounds like he wants something different....but he doesn't believe that it will happen.
I mean, look on what he was saying during first fight with Kratos. "Show me the god of war", "This ain't how it works", "You're a Destroyer, like me". Essentually, he wanted to push Kratos to the limit. To make him unleash his rage. He was, in a sense, searching for vindication. That the way he chose was the only one. That he could not change. Even if he were to leave nine realms.
Am I the only one that thought Thor looks so tired? His eyes just look like he’s done with everything. Just shows how even Gods have emotions even with how strong they are
He’s like the human version of Garfield
He is tired of the same old faces and the same old things
@@swagymicswagger he loves his lasagna
@@TheTimbs_ And his mead :)
It does make sense. He's behind the reason why giants are basically gone from the realm short of Loki. The main reason hes depressed is due to losing his children already.
When Odin calls Thor's sons useless and starts praising Baldur, the way Thor turns his head is brilliant. It shows the pain he feels but has to supress because of Odin. Thor's character was a superb achievement of this game.
Thor should've teamed up with kratos and take him down. But... He was tired and exhausted.. just like sutr. He couldn't live up to anyone's expectations and left everyone disappointed. He couldn't get what he wanted... His life was miserable.
@@Ace_03 Unfortunately he still loved and respected his father so I don’t think he’d lay a finger on him.
He wasn't really even praising Baldur either. He see's his sons as tools to be used. Baldur to Odin had "value" "uses". Baldur was his tracker and Thor was his killer. They both were desperate for their Fathers attention and love, something they never got.
@@louie2747 His father might have casted a spell to love him.
@@Ace_03 Not likely. When he finally confronted him there was no indication of him breaking a spell for that to happen.
I get the impression from their first meeting with Thor, that Thor had quit drinking for some time, probably with the help from his wife and daughter. He doesn't drink the mead, even when Odin puts the cup right in front of him prompting him to do so, and telling him he's no fun anymore. So it was really heartbreaking to me when Thrud found him drunk in the tavern.
I think that was because he realized he indirectly caused Modi's death in a fit of rage. Atreus might be the one who dealt the killing blow, but Thor was the one who broke Modi's spirit.
@@korawitbuttramee618 facts right there
Reminds me of Chris and Tony’s relationship in the Sopranos
Tony sends Chris to rehab, just to make sure he’d be better use and to stop being such a fuck up
But when he became sober, he was useless. He wasn’t one of the guys anymore, he was “high and mighty”, no fun anymore, so he offers Chris a glass of wine
@@funnybone6149 YO UNDERATED COMMENT. Their relationship always broke my heart. especially him crying on the way back from the farm.
He kinda just sniffs it, and he rubs a little bit on the hammer yeah I think he's trying to quit
Thor seems like he would be a decent guy if it wasn't for Odin
All the Aesir would be fine if it werent for Odin. Odin was the poison amongst them. He was a narcissist who loved to turn his family against themselves whilst simultaneously keeping them deferrent to himself.
seems you never got into greek mythology
@@revoIvr Norse not Greek
@@revoIvr seems like you dont know nothing
@@revoIvr clearly you haven't lmao
Thor's battle with alcoholism is very well executed. The way he inhales the tumbler of meade, the way he rubs it on Miljnor, every inch of him aches to take a sip but he dare not fall of the wagon. Just goes to show that addictions never really leave you.
Yeah although he almost stopped drinking it until the tavern incedent
@@dedpigon8562 the only reason he's trying to stop is because of his love for his daughter thrud
@@AmsyarBrosku yeah and his wife
Let's not forget it's not a disease though
@@savagedude9727 yeah it’s only an addiction
Thor bringing Kratos back to life just to keep beating him up is the coldest thing Ive seen this year
You clearly haven't seen what Odin does yet
@@vincentvorse But still...
Nah dude kratos wasnt dead
And even if he was, kratos wasnt going 100% so it has no relevance
@@pickleo2756 No amount of holding back makes your skin softer
Even if Kratos was holding back Thor killing him was still a pretty big feat
And yes Thor did kill him
Perfect casting for Thor. Ryan is lovable, terrifying and godly all in one. Fantastic performance!
Honestly you would say that with anyone who play him.
He was really terrifying as Beta in The Walking Dead
I knew him as oppie winston lol
@@raihanbaid367I knew him as that guy in that movie 🎥 🤣 😂 😏 💀.
@@raihanbaid367 same here! Was waiting for Thor to say he’s got this…
I had high expectations for Thor and he still blew me away, great performance, great character and great fights
True. Despite hes a little less bloodlusted than what i imagine from what Mimir told us in 2018 but thats ~100 years ago(in game time) so maybe he changed. Anyway, a very well writen character.
@@aphoticdiffusal7777 90 years ?
@@juarezm.6737 in-game, mimir tells stories of the past, and many of which are as he said 90 or more years ago. They are about gods so the big time difference is a given
@@juarezm.6737 In the 2018 game is said that Mimir was tied in that tree for 109 winters
@@aphoticdiffusal7777 yea me too. Had hoped for å but more raging Thor and a butcher like he really is
There were people who didn’t like thors design when it was revealed I thought it suited him perfectly. Also Thor’s hammer I think in myth it was really heavy so props to kratos making a damn good table
Marvel fans. They expect thor to always be ripped and healthy but endgame thor is actually more accurate. Thor in the myths drank a lot of the ocean and ate 2 goats everyday and that was just one of his meals. And aesirs or Vikings in general usually drank a lot. Thor is accurate here.
@@TheRealGazebo bear Thor is actually much preferrable as a character to this wierd himbo comic relief Thor in the MCU. This kinda seems like the version of fat Thor that would have fit the tone of Endgame better. Broken, introverted, dejected, at the end of his rope, but still capable and able to be loveable without being a total idiot who does nothing but make cringey jokes. I enjoyed seeing him with his family and how he tries for them even though he fucks up.
@@TheRealGazebo Yeah Thor from what we know of the mythology weight was a lot closer to the "Strongman" body builders. He was MASSIVE.
@Gabe Mark The word "fanboy" implies zealotry, as opposed to mere "fans".
I like this thor as his height and figure is worthy for it
It surprised me how Odin acts like he's a damn maffia boss... makes sense in a lot of ways
But upon playing the game he feels more broken, even in the first scene, than as a badass mafia boss
@@noamias4897 that's how he wants you to view him a feeble old man. The Odin in this game is a manipulative narcissist who is incredibly powerful and also very abusive of his family turning them into this playthings or muscle to throw at "inconvenient" problems
Odin is actually not a very "good" guy in lore, he is know as-- besides Allfather and such, as Segerfader. Which means Father and Victory, he's the ends justify the means kind of figure and he's the king of the gods because he doesn't lose. Employing underhanded tricks would not be beneath him and any advantage would be leveraged for victory. I have not played the games but I just had to see how the norse pantheon was portrayed here and I think the mafia boss kind of thing makes him more relatable to us modern mortals in general, haha
I also like how you can read All-Father for “Godfather.”
I love how they portrayed Thor trying to stay sober, he looked like he had difficulty trying to keep alcohol off his mind as he uses his fingers to dab some of the drink on his hammer and starts smelling the cup. Even when Odin puts the cup infront of him Thor looks away. He obviously wants to drink again but he can’t because he knows that he is a family man and has to be there for them after magni and modi died
He was honestly one of the most likeable characters in hind sight. Watching him trying to change and finally succeeding made his death immediately after that so painful. He had sobered up but leaving the drink meant nothing if he stayed with his abusive father.
Kratos should've said "GO HOME AND BE A FAMILY MAN!" during their fight.
When I first heard of him in GOW 4, I thought he was gonna be the boss I'd enjoy to put down, but now he is my most favorited character in the whole game
Which is a very genius way of handling him, cause even in old Norse times, he was a very beloved deity
Gow 7 you mean, Ragnarok is god of war 8
Same. Heimdall became the one that I actually enjoyed killing because he was such an a**hole.
@@Sundowner13 no, no it isn't
@@Singularguyy yes it is, there are 6 gow games before 2018
His voice actor has the best angry voice i've ever heard. Dude has gravel in his voice that drips with rage and pain. Perfect voice for an awesome rendition of Thor
That roar he did after telling Kratos to stay away from Thrud made me think he was gonna crush his head right there.
Or that look on his face when he decides to try to kill Atreus at Sif's insistence
Opie from sons of anarchy
Ryan Hurst is amazing at what he does.
His " DUMBASS" is fucking amazing.
"What is this?! Are you broken?!"
Just goes to show that Odin looked at his own son as nothing more than a toy he could throw at whoever he hated. The lack of hesitation he has when killing Thor is pure psychopathic; Thor's refusal was a direct insult to Odin's obsessive aspect of control, and with that insult, Odin instantly chose death.
I’m genuinely surprised how well they’ve fleshed out the characters in this franchise. Masterpiece
It made me even sadder at how Odin tries to justify himself for killing Thor.
But there was no hesitation at all. The moment Thor stood up for himself Odin outright murdered him. He may not have even touched Odin, Thor maybe wouldn't have wanted more death on his family.
But to Odin? When his faithful hound had even the seed of doubt, he had to be killed and apologise later.
Man had no hesitation spoiling
@@TheMelonbros123 normally I’m against spoiling but if you look at a video like this you can’t expect anything else lol
When Thor was finally convinced by Kratos, it isn't noticeable but you can see him nodding ever so slightly to him and agreeing that they should be better people and become more than just destroyers but at that EXACT MOMENT you immediately hear Odin coming with his teleporting Ravens and talking Thor down. It's like he sensed that his son was about to switch sides and immediately tried to get him back but when Thor finally made his decision to stand up to him, he killed him.
He even blames Atreus and Kratos for his own actions like he doesn't want to feel guilty or can't comprehend that he killed his own son. He only sees people close to him as expendable and doesn't take responsibility once he 'disposes' of them and he uses his friendly looking charisma to lure in people that might be of use to him
And that's why I hate this game is totally against the myth of Odin, Odin is not like that at all!
Can I just say how much of a cool idea it is to have him summon Mjolnir by snapping? It adds such a prideful arrogance to his character. Like he doesn't respect the weapon, he expects it to come when commanded.
That's actually a great way to put it
Also the contrast to how Kratos handles his axe, like at 1:54 when Thor slams down his hammer on the table then Kratos carefully sets down his axe with both hands. It's such a small detail, yet it adds so much to the characters.
@@LiamTolentino exactly. He treats it like a symbol of pride. Thor treats Mjolnir like a pet he expects to be loyal.
@@Chernobog34 I think it’s because Leviathan was Faye’s & aside from their son his only piece he still has of her. Which is why he treats it so gently & shows respect for the weapon
@@Beastly_Genius 100% agree. It's one of the last pieces of her either of them has. So of course he's gonna treat it with respect.
Why is beer-belly Thor significantly more threatening and awesome than six-pack, beach-body Thor…
Also, I was really surprised how deep of a character Thor is in this game. You can see just how ashamed he is of himself, and how stressed and depressed he is throughout the game. You can tell he wants to rebel against Odin, but never does due to Odin’s manipulation.
And this game is still a masterpiece in 2024 :)
Because we seen what he can do
MCU Thor? Probably because he's a protagonist
I mean it makes sense considering that GOW’s Thor closely resembles his description in Norse Mythology. Chris Hemsworth’s Thor just kill people by showing himself buck naked to them
I mean also helps that one of them is like 8 feet tall
There’s a weight to this version of Thor (and I’m not referring to his size) that Hemsworth doesn’t capture.
I hope Thor can somehow return. He deserved better, he was another victim of Odin, would be cooler if Kratos and him teamed up against Allfather
Time to visit hell and get him out of there lol
@@Duck360Gaming Valhalla my friend
he literally killed a family that built a statue in his honor, dude :/
it was not Odin who told him to do it
@@rdonshatalov valhalla dosen't work like hell, if he was a great warrior he will go to valhalla
@@rdonshatalov damn man as if kratos never done anything like that
Honestly, it was sad to see Thor go through so much. He wasn't even the "bad guy", he was just manipulated by his own father and treated as nothing but a killing machine. Plus the fact that Thor seems like a genuinely likeable guy, if it weren't for his family problems, and Modi and Magni striking first, I feel like he'd be an ally to our main cast.
He reminds me of the giant from the Muppet Christmas Carol, the one who goes "COME IN, *AND KNOW ME BETTER MAN!"*
I know I am very late to this, but Thor was known as the god of men.
He made the most frequent visits to Midgard (earth) to talk, drink and laugh with mortals.
So him being more likable than most other Norths gods is right on the money.
Thor in the myths is considered to be a god of the common men.
There is a reason why Thor is on the Avengers. Not just because of strength
Wow, I love Thors design here.
He is insanely intimidating yet tired, looks like he can't even lift his hammer.
He is fat, but somehow it suits him so well.
He moves slowly, but with power. He is fed up with certain things, yet he won't stop.
Even Gods are not without flaws
He has the physique of a strongman because yes they do work out but they eat a LOT to feed their muscles which is why they are so strong so all that fat is most likely very hard which why kratos axe didn't go as deep as it would another's
Best portrayal of the character by far
You think turning Thor into a fat, slobbish drunken loser and abusive father is good? Oof
@@proudsaiyanprince2651 never said they were good qualities, as a character it makes him way more interesting and a fat drunk was basically what he was described as in the myths
@@proudsaiyanprince2651 also a loser who can nearly wipe out an entire race of giants and go toe to toe with Kratos isn't much of a loser
@@connormitchell6446 it’s intentionally culturally subversive
@@proudsaiyanprince2651 how? Thor is literally an angry fat drunk in actual myrhology.
I really loved his design. I loved his voice acting.
His design is so cool! The tats are placed well and I love his body type, you don't need visible muscles to be strong asf. The best part is him being a redhead, it fits him way better than blonde!
Of course, I thought from secret ending was heavy muscular build, but no ... This design appearance was fit! I like this version rather than MCU princess blondie
@@omgheather1 This could be the closest we get to a mythological Thor in terms of looks. The red hair and beard, his massive stature, his temperament, everything is there.
Think every voice actor was absolutely fantastic
I hated everything about this game and it’s depiction of European culture and deities
Love that Thor is simultaneously a foil to Kratos and Atreus. Like Kratos, he was manipulated by the gods into being a killing machine. Like Atreus, he’s a half giant that’ll go to great lengths to appease his emotionally distant father. Thor is essentially what either of them could have turned into had they not fostered a healthy, redemptive relationship with each other.
So basically Thor is what either of them could have turned into without Faye's influence in their lives.
@@perseusveil9376I’d say more like if Thor genuinely had love. Since day 1, him and his brother were tools to be used.
I never caught that Thor was actively resisting the urge to drink the mead, props to the devs for hiding foreshadowing in such a crazy tense scene.
I love how when Thor shows up, he's polite enough to ask if he can come in while on the other hand, Odin just waltzes inside, grabs a chair, and starts drinking as if he owns the place.
In the first meeting between Thor and Kratos, the amount of characterization and the sheer quality of the writing, even with how few words spoken between Thor and Kratos, is just amazing. Perhaps one of the best scenes in all of gaming. Literally perfect.
No
-Kratos
It's not perfect. It's missing raging thunder, lightning, pourng rain, and snowstorms throughout the bossfight. They really messed that part up with no weather even though it's against Thor, the god of thunder.
@@TheFirstCurse1 In the first fight it was stated both Kratos and Thor were heavily holding back so that's probably why
@@TheFirstCurse1I'm sure there was lightning crashing down around the temple and the ice pit during the fight because of Thor because I remember how badass he looked at the times when he was framed in front of the lightning during the fight
@@thewhitespectre Maybe, but it's still bad writing because he should have been showing off his power to intimidate Kratos and the player. Plus it'd give both a flashback to Zeus and his power.
"There are many differences between Thor and his brother Baldur. Baldur fought wildly, his motivation to inflict pain. Thor is calmer-his bloodlust is for the fight itself, not for the suffering it inflicts. The full force of his attack is as heavy as any I have felt. The hammer, Mjölnir, only compounds his power...each blow echoes with the death and destruction they have wrought together. He chose to end our fight prematurely. It is good for both of us that it did not reach its conclusion."
-Kratos
36:58 oh my god. Thor did the Will Smith thing. He said the line
Thank god you saw that too! I was looking to see if anyone would point it out lmao
Why is it a Will Smith reference? Thor is an angry father fighting the person who killed his sons.
@@teamvlcn6820 the Oscar’s. when will smith smacked Chris rock
@@tenvedelacs That doesn't tell me why Thor's line is referencing that.
@@teamvlcn6820 because will smith said the same thing at the oscars
I like that Thor was teased to be a evil god who doesn’t care about anyone but himself but later revealed in ragnarok that he actually cares about his fallen sons and daughter and is just in pain from odins selfishness
Trying be good husband and father for his wife and daughter.
he also cares about his brother; Baldur
@@neo-warkid4edwards222yeah also good brother.
His sons fualt for literally attacking Kratos and atreus in the first place karts nor atreus purpose was not to kill but rather kill anyone that goes in there way or kill anyone that's there's to try and attack them
This portrayal of Thor exceeded my expectations. Ryan Hurst and the folks at Santa Monica Studio did an excellent job on crafting this character. Thor was terrifying, intimidating, savage, badass and tragic. Loved this character
I could hear a bit of Fred Tatasciore in his voice, especially when he yells.
and he sounded a lot like Thanos, I actually mistook Ryan Hurst's voice for Josh Brolin
He was soft
Thor saying "He's lost weight" To mimir was golden 😂
I get the impression that, if Thor had lived at the end of the game, Kratos and Thor would have maybe been friends.
Yeah because they are basically the same character. Controlled by their father, hates their father, a God (well Thor is a Giant killer) killer, and are both destroyers.
There wasn't enough Thor in this game. The best parts of this game were mostly the parts where Thor was involved.
Completely agree on that
True.
Thor : "Take one more step, you're not gonna' like how this ends.."
Heimdall: Rly? and how do you intend to stop me..?
Thor: "Look into my eyes.."
Heimdall was about to get Press-Circle Minigamed by Thor for some Red Orbs.
I said it once and i will say it again, i really prefer this rendition of the Aesir, and specifically Thor, to Marvel's.
In this one you can really understand that nordic culture, despite it's beauty and greatness, is not flashy, a point Heimdall affirms in this game, and has a lot of sadness, violence and trauma.
That is also a feeling you can get by playing Hellblade.
Marvel's Aesir (meaning Marvel Comics, not the butchering done by the MCU) are also explorativie of the pagan origins of Thor. Such as one story where Thor is on Earth during the Viking Age and he witnesses how pagans kill innocents in the name of Norse Gods and that terrifies him, and he asks Odin to let him show those barbarians the fault of their ways, but Odin says that they have to figure it out themselves.
@@antona.8659 Ok, that comment about "butchering done by the MCU" feels disingenuous to me because it's partly not entirely the studio's fault. The whole point of making MCU Thor more comedic after Age of Ultron (his last mostly serious appearance that's not Infinity War) was because people didn't connect with this version of him and his films weren't that well received (look at Thor: The Dark World). That's the whole point of his character shift starting from Ragnarok onwards. And let's not forget people loved that change in that film.
BTW, explanation doesn't equal justification. Do I think they took it too far? Yes, but I think it's unfair to place all the blame on Marvel.
I just want to enjoy both interpretations of this character without needlessly dunking on one to gas up another.
@@aurabender150 1. It's not disingenuous if it's true. And what I said is true. 2. Oh, sure it is the studio's fault. It's always their fault, as they're the ones in charge of the franchise. 3. Well, see? It's their fault for assuming too much without thinking first. Thor The Dark World didn't connect because it was dull and boring. Being serious has nothing to do with it, as it wasn't that either. 4. I don't care what's the point of that. The point is that it has no point and makes no sense. It character assassinated Thor, made him an idiot, killed his best friends for comedy and never had him reflect on that, and botched the whole story of Asgard, on top of being a mess which makes no sense.
@@antona.8659 That's fair because you're not wrong. I wasn't trying discredit other's opinions and perspectives, I was just sharing mine.
GoW Thor has the advantage of NOT being tied to a to a massive comic book inspired franchise made to appeal to all audiences and can go all in on character exploration and real Norse lore.
Let's both agree that this version is amazing. :)
@The Owl Lady I worded that wrong. I was talking about GoW Thor and how he's amazing.
Thor: great voice acting
Odin: why does he sound like an American gangster movie comedy relief character
Odin is actually growing on me. I love how he gets annoyed when people are not where he expects lol
I think he's meant to be like a mafia boss.
Well, seems to me the Odin's voice was ok
😂😂😂 yeah lol
Odin is perfect, stop complaining
This Thor is better portrayed than what Disney did to Thor.
Well the MCU should be pg13
@@mostafamansour2495 no
I prefer the Marvel one and he's a lot cooler but I respect your opinions
@@changsiah2 thank you
@@changsiah2 he is more of a joke this one is better RESPECTFULLY
Lets actually applause Thor for actually “killing” kratos and choosing to bring him back to life
I know right that was awesome in fact that entire fight was awesome on so many levels 🤩🤩🤩
Tbh i dont think kratos died, i just think he got concussed and thor shocked him to rattle him around so he’d wake up
@@throg4657 getting knocjed the f out is still a big fat L.
@@Johnny.G. yeah lol
Thor actually killed Kratos, he wouldn't have defilibrated him if he wasn't
I absolutely love this version of Thor. He's is almost identical to the myths, but also humanized in a very realistic way
THOR : Look into my eyes, you tell me 👁️
Heimdall : you are a sick man
He is a true warrior
I do understand that he needed yo die, but i hoped he would get redemption qrc come full circle, voice actor did a heck of a job and i was rly touched by thors story...
Same would have loved to see him have a journey similar to kratos,
Then kill him in the next arc to establish a new threat.
@@twizz13r24 💀
@@thatquietasianguy9582 lol cant say it wouldn't have been a fire narrative device, to kill him in a new game
Same I really hoped we’d duo with Thor against Odin in gameplay a bit
Kratos, Freya, Sindri, Odin and Thor's actors all delivered stunning performances.
I did not expect Odin to talk like a lawyer/mob boss...
Waayyy far cry from Zeus.
I love in this game Odin is so enthusiastic when conversing with Loki and in his way he shows a certain cares for him while disregarding and talking down to Thor. Exact opposite situation of MCU Odin
Thor is what Kratos could've stayed as. A weapon for his father, broken man and father, his battle with Alcohol and his depressed rage is what Kratos could've been had he gone down and stayed in the path of vengeance and murder. It's such a crazy story and dynamic to see the polar opposites in father's but the one fact is they both love their children. In their own way of course.
Thor and Odins character designs, personalities and voice acting were so well done, alongside Heimdall and Baldur this Norse saga has one of the best collections of Video Game villains of all time. Thor was perfect and didn't really surprise me with his arc, but Odins personality and mannerisms were a real curve ball and I loved it
Thor was cast as the perfect Anti-Hero in the game.
“I want to see the God of WAR!”
BADASS!!
From strongest norse god
he is so intimidating, I love the way they made his character
Looking like a sumo wrestler with his physique plus Godly strength, speed, durability & somehow got himself a hot wife.
Man, after going through this game my thoughts have changed on Thor. SPOILERS BELOW SO DON'T READ IF YOU HAVEN'T SEEN!
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When I first saw that opening scene with Thor in Kratos and Atreus's home he seemed ominous and threatening. But now understanding how broken and tired he is, it hits different. That whole "You seem like a calm and reasonable person" line felt like a threat from a mafia enforcer the first time I saw it, but now reads more like someone trying to relate through trauma and not being able to fully admit it.
I was fully ready to hate Thor as the murderous psychopath he was made out to be in the previous game, but now I just see him as an earlier version of Kratos. What a brilliant tragedy.
he defenitely is a mirror of Kratos, both gods did committed horrible atrocities. Sometimes due to the influence of other gods (Ares and Odin), but sometimes just to be a dick. I think that Thor just drowned his sorrows in booze while Kratos found healing through Faye, then eventually his son.
@@YuukitheMighty1 and thor realised too late that he had that as well
Nail on the head right there. Perfectly put
My thoughts exactly. I came to this game fully prepared to put Thor down like some kind of rabid mad dog. But as the game continued, I wanted to learn and hear more from him. I wanted to see him grow. To take a similar path of growth that Kratos did. Which is exactly why his death pissed me off so much. We barely get any time to see him in the game and now we'll probably never get anything more from him. It's such a waste of what could've likely been a really good character. Honestly, I'd even go so far as to say he could've had his own DLC or game series. It just sucks. Narrative wise, his death makes sense but that still doesn't mean I have to like it. I want Thor back. And I want Ryan Hurst to voice him.
See my above comment: why is Odin just a stereotypical Mafia don?
Thor's actor killed it! I was hoping Loki would remind him that he himself was part Giant😂
he did, during their visit to muspelheim
Thor is just super sad man, he is absolutely trashed by his own father..
Thor is actually intimidating especially is that first scene, I had an intense feeling thinking that he would attack at any moment.
I'm excited for all the Thor analysis videos that are going to be made. Really fascinating character.
Same
Isn’t much to analyse. He’s a big dude with daddy issues
I love this character choice for Odin, instead of making him some giant serious man they make him like those tiny mob bosses with giant henchmen
His story is just too tragic. I hope he comes back. I love his character.
Really feel for Thor he took so much abuse from Odin and you see how it goes down to his own family if only he had valued his wife and kids more maybe he could have turned his back on Odin. there were so many great charcaters in this game hope they make a new IP and keep up with this kind of story telling.
Thor deserved to live and be entirely redeemed. He and Kratos would have been best friends. At the very least they let him stand up to Odin before he died.
“For the sake of our children, we must be better.” -Kratos
Fire 🔥🔥
Amazing performance. Him and Odin were so unexpected yet worked really well. Thor was like Darth Vader To Odin's Palpatine.
It hurts me how you can see Atreus growing on Thor as the story goes on. But he just can't accept him because of what he did to his sons.
Could you imagine if Thor was killed in his first fight with Kratos? The second most powerful god? That’s exactly what happened with Poseidon. While I’ll always love GOW 3 and how each boss is introduced, they’re isn’t much buildup. In GOW 1, the bosses scale up until we finally battle Ares. In GOW 3, the bosses scale down. We go down from Poseidon to Hades, Helios, Hermes, Hercules then the Scorpion monster before slaying Zeus. Kinda weird.
The build up was GOW2
Thor: is awesome because he's THOR GOD OF THUNDER, gets drunk and gets in bar fights, fights monsters and gods.
Also Thor: bullied and abused by his own father, drinks heavily to self-medicate, is treated like a tool and most likely hates himself, is a bad father, pushes his family away because of his self-destructive tendencies.
Damn, I feel sorry for the big guy 😢
Odin was ruthless as a character. They should bring Thor back and get back at the All father
My favorite level and scene in the entire game is inside the bar. Absolutely perfect. Shows exactly who Thor is. Absolutely love God of War. Greatest franchise ever made in my book and the fact that the new games not only hold a candle to the originals but brighten the fires of the blades of chaos themselves they are knocking it out of the park.
'I have mead!' Is one of my favourite lines. Its so simple but it shows how thor loves drinking and its accurate to norse mythology where he would eat tons and drink of food and beer.
Noticing his first scene, where he "brings mead" and doesnt drink any of it, but still smells it, rubs it into Mjolnir, was really subtle forward thinking writing.
Also Odin picking the cup down and slamming it down in front of him as if to say "Drink it" and telling him "youre no fun anymore".
Just the sheer lengths of his abuse to Thor, that actvely encouraged his drinking and reckless behaviour as "entertainment" to him.
It doesn't feel like it's just Thor and Kratos who have a rivalry, but their weapons, Mjolnir and the Leviathan Axe, also feel like they have a rivalry as well.
Sad as it is to see Thor relapse, that mission with the bar fight in Asgard is amazing. One of my favorites in the whole game. It was a nice comedic break from the serious drama going on.
Dare I say I FREAKIN LOVE THIS THOR, like Ik its a lot to ask but what if they made a spin off game about him and him trying to find redemption now that his father has betrayed him. And he can use his powers for good and not for slaughtering the good. I mean imagine the combat. This game is beautiful.
I hope for DLC, the missions with him as a companion show, he's got plenty of the necessary animations to be playable; light combos, heavy combos, ranged attacks, even idle run and sprinting animation
He dead dude. Like, dead dead.
12:42 Makes a lot of sense on a second play through if You ain’t paying attention through out the game. He remembers fighting Faye.
I like when Thor kills Kratos made you thought “agh he killed me!” but he said “Oh no… I say when we’re done!” And brings Kratos back to life
I did not expect that the death which would bring me the most sadness would be Thor of all people.
In all reality he was just an incredibly powerful but altogether simple man. All he had desired was a loving family, a good drink, a good brawl, but first and foremost, the approval of his father. It just so happened his father was a horrid, manipulative, demeaning, genocidal maniac who wished only for a hammer to crush his enemies, not a son.
So through his pursuit to gain this approval he watched himself slowly commit increasingly brutal atrocities to the point where, from fear of persecution, he began to try and force himself to believe he enjoyed what he was commanded to do. Then when the shame became too much to bear, binge drinking was his curative. A level of alcoholism that only brought him more shame by estranging him from his family and leading him to spill more innocent blood.
Truly a tragic and ironic life in the worst of ways. Due to the nature of all the ways he attempted to cope with the vile deeds he committed in the name of his father he then lost everything else that mattered to him: his enjoyment of drinking, his love of battle, the love and health of his family, and most tragically, he never gained the admiration or love of his father anyway as Odin simply had none to give. Thor was on the brink of redemption when he finally denied his father's wishes, but instead it was cruelly taken from him, forcing him to remain forever in the memories of others as a brutal, merciless, and foolish monster. He could've changed.
Yeah, I was... Really hoping he wouldn't die because he could've really changed. That moment when he finally accepts that he doesn't have to remain a monster, a destroyer, it hit hard because then and there he had decided that he would walk the a new path, for his family. Just to be killed beforehand. Man, sometimes I wish things could've been different.
I've personally come to believe that when he dies, he passes into Valhalla. Thor died fighting the toughest battle of his life: saying "No" to his father and standing up to him once and for all.
Part of why I believe this is for a few reasons:
1) the God of War games play fast and loose with established mythologies, and it's implied that the only reason those who die in battle are worthy of Valhalla is because it's a carefully crafted narrative Odin concocted -- from the Path of the Traveler to the Einherjar codex -- all so he could get a bigger and better army.
2) In 2018 God of War, Mimir notes that the gods have their own way of getting to Valhalla and don't rely on the Valkyries.
3) Even so, the Valkyries are able to escort "the worthy", and they did so with the living in Asgard to Midgard (which is decidedly not their purview, but within their ability). So why couldn't they escort someone like Thor to Valhalla despite not dying in a literal battle?
4) Freya even notes that despite the destruction of Asgard, Valhalla exists both "in and out of Asgard", and that it continues to exist in the post game. A few dialogue entries indicate that the Einherjar will die and return to Valhalla.
5) It also keeps the tears at bay.
I do feel like killing him was a waste (the overall intention of Odin striking Thor in front of Thrud would still have worked if he was alive), but damn if it didn't still hurt.
@@TheEtherealAlchemist I wanna believe he's in Valhalla too.
100% agreed. There's a unique pain in watching a flawed character cut down on the path to their redemption. For what it's worth Thor was a born a slave to the bond he tried to create with his father, and he was exploited as a tool both physically and emotionally to the point of him becoming numb to virtually everything else in his life. Thor lived a joyless life as a result, and before he could even begin to look somewhere else for that joy he was executed. He symbolizes just how fucked up of a person Odin was, and they wrote it all so beautifully.
For some reason, after the ending, I've got this feeling that atleast either Kratos or Atreus are going to play devil's advocate, after seeing what kind of man he really was, could have been, or was trying to be.
They might not sing his praises, or defend him to those he has wronged, but, I feel like they're going to give him the respect he deserved, even if he was misled.
Thor bringing Kratos back to the fight by zapping his hear was such a nice touch
God, at 11:27 when he restarts Kratos heart after the game over screen... LOOOOL that's peak meta right there.
i loved thor, he is soooo good here. idc what anyone says this is the best rendition of thor
3:16 the way thor questions kratos is just full blown Thanos. Deep and dark tone. Shessh
I feel bad for the big guy.
@5:43 Kraros in mind: " Boy ! what the fuck were you doing behind my back !"
Am I the only one disappointed by Thor's lack of presence and screen-time? With how the first game ended with the most badass cliffhangers of all time with Thor literally turning up to your doorstep and how much he was hyped in Mimir's stories and Ragnarok's marketing, I was very underwhelmed with the Thor we got in this game. He wasn't even much of an antagonist in the game as much as I would like with Thor being overshadowed by Odin. Baldur on the other hand had a constant presence in the first game with him constantly following you and having multiple fights with him. Aside from the first and last fight with Thor, he really didn't do much of anything. I think if you removed Thor in this game, the story would've still function as normal and I don't quite like that. He should've had much more a presence than just being a spectacle. Yeah there were emotional moments with him but they could've given him way more.
Only issue is Thor is meant to be an intimidating and hype boss fight. In the first battle he literally kills you and constantly regenerates health to show you he means business, unlike Baldur who was more of a persistent nuisance. Having thor constantly fight you would kinda ruin the hype of fighting again which is what makes the rematch so fun; you fight the first true boss again at the finale to prove you improved over the course of the game
They shouldve had thor team up with kratos and fight odin.
Thor gives himself up to take down odin.
But I think odin shouldve been portrayed better.
Hes supposed to be big and masculine, and they chose to portray him as a balding skinny little man.
Odin himself was a warrior and a magician.
Thor shouldve been a little angrier, and had way more screen time.
And his boss fight felt way too easy to me. I wouldve liked to see longer fights with thor and alot more variety.
@@AudioJeep Odin is more like a mob boss or an overseer of sorts. He never does anything himself unless he has to. He always gets someone else to do it. In this way hes portrayed perfectly
@@AudioJeep he isn't supposed to be big and masculine, most of eddas represent him just like an old man who is obssesed with knowledge, capable of sacrificing his own life just to learn more, he also does some hunt tho
Thor gives me Hound from GOT vibes. I dig it.
Yes! Great point. They have similar energy with how they're both intimidating, great fighters, hilarious, but also fed up and kind of bitter.
7:40 That line delivery for “Bout time” was perfect.
As short and simple as those 2 words are, it’s got so much power to it!
Keep her name out of your DAMN mouth
- Thor Odinson's Will Smith
Legit died when i heard that and thought of will ☠️
Odin: I know! Let's threaten the man who killed his entire pantheon of Gods because he wanted vengeance! WHAT COULD GO WRONG!?
Kratos: *laughs in Deicide*
The ending fight between Thor and Kratos really shows the discipline and strength of the Greeks and the Irish peoples! Beautiful display!
Thor is Scandinavian though
@@brownrice9147 clearly another name for the irish
@@joshuajoshuajoshuajoshuajo982 the scandanavians and Irish are two different people.
The Irish and Scandinavians are very different, though there was a lot of Norse influence in Gaelic Ireland at some points.
The Irish had the Tuatha De Danann, and their own mythological figures
I love how Thor gets insulted when Kratos calls him a bad parent
Thor was tired and sick. Mentally by the tortures of Odin making him feel like a worm with zapping abilities, and physically by the Leviathan Axe’s poison. He would make a great father if not by Odin’s paranoia. Hell, I even believe Odin made Thor beat up Modi in the first place.
I would have really liked things were different for him, that he survived and made his own journey of redemption just like Kratos, even, that he went with Atreus to find the rest of the giants and paying them the blood debt by aiding them.
Too op
What's really missing in Thor's first boss fight is raging thunder, lightning, pouring rain, and so much snow that it's hard to see him. He's the God Of Thunder and can control the weather, and in the game thunder booms when he's angry. But here, in arguably the most well known and influential boss fight in the new GOW games? It's a blank, dark sky.
A year later… What a legendary game
5:38 You can see that Kratos is close to picking up the axe since Odin threatened towards Atreus.
They did really well with his body language and face . His eyes convey alot especially.
Did anyone notice that Odin doesn't regret losing his son Baldur? his own blood. No, he's sorry he lost his tracker. Someone who used as a tool.
That's how odin sees things like when he calls odins sons useless he couldn't use them like he can with bauldur and thor
Heimdall claims not to be scared of Thor but at 15:55 he backs down when Thor pulls up.
Kinda want a Thor Spinoff. Know it won't happen but still
On the mural that depicts the future where Kratos is worshipped across the realms, there's a figure just behind him on the right that looks distinctly like Thor. I've compared it to the death mural at Angrboda's Treehouse, same physical expression and girth, with clearly defined side armor and a belt.
Thor might actually return.
@@SkyofRavens same thought, that and him being the only god disintegrating right after he dies, makes me hopeful for him returning
For a guy as big as he is, Thor’s remarkably fast
For real
l do NOT see enough people talking about this absolute badassery at 7:35, so fkn cold 💀
Why does Odin sound like he's trying to sell me a used car, while everyone else sounds the way they should?
Odin is known to be a bit of a trickster and a master of disguise. He probably talks like that to make people underestimate Him. Gives people a false sense of security which Odin can take advantage of
God, the way that Duck360 put the scenes together makes it feel like one’s happening after the other in real time, I love it
12:36 I just realized Thor was referencing Kratos’ first family, the one he slaughtered.
"....but you're a Giant. And I will revel in killing you too."
That line. That line didn't sound like he actually meant it. There was no pleasure in his voice. He sounded like he was trying to force himself into feeling it. Like he was resigning himself into believing that he was nothing more than a Destroyer.
But he doesn't sound like he will revel in it. He sounds tired...like it's just the same old song and dance over and over again.
It sounds like he wants something different....but he doesn't believe that it will happen.
I mean, look on what he was saying during first fight with Kratos. "Show me the god of war", "This ain't how it works", "You're a Destroyer, like me". Essentually, he wanted to push Kratos to the limit. To make him unleash his rage. He was, in a sense, searching for vindication. That the way he chose was the only one. That he could not change. Even if he were to leave nine realms.
Ryan Hurst did such an amazing job playing thor in this game!