Rating My Top 5 Dust Collection Tools for a Small Shop
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- čas přidán 16. 07. 2024
- Small woodshop, big dust! 🪚✨ In this video, I'm rating my top 5 dust collection tools that have significantly reduced the amount of dust in my workshop. I'll rate each tool from 1 to 10 and give you a breakdown of my pros and cons for each. I hope this video helps you achieve a cleaner and healthier workspace!
- Tools Featured -
1. Central Machinery 2 HP Dust Collector, $300 at Harbor Freight (+ hoses, fittings and attachments)
2. Rousseau 5000-L Miter Saw Shroud, $200 on Amazon
3. Wen Air Scrubber, $130 on Amazon
4. Box Fan with Filter, $30 DIY
5. Festool CT 36 Dust Extractor and ETS EC 125/3 EQ-Plus 125mm (5") Orbital Sander, 💰 expensive but 💯 worth it
- Timestamps -
0:00 Introduction
2:22 Central Machinery 2 HP Dust Collector
6:34 Rousseau 5000-L Miter Saw Shroud
10:28 Wen Air Scrubber
13:02 Box Fan with Filter
14:23 Festool CT 36 Dust Extractor and ETS EC 125/3 EQ-Plus Orbital Sander
19:33 Conclusion
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Nice overview. I have been using Festool dust extractors for 20 years and have several including the CT36. At the rate you are using bags, that is costing you about $125/year. Over 5 years ago, I installed the CT-VA-20 separator on my CT36. While I have emptied the separator bin countless times, I haven't changed a bag in the CT since. At the time of purchase I thought it was an overpriced piece of plastic but have changed my mind. I checked the bag fill for this comment and esimated it is only filled 15-20%. When you install your last bag, I would consider that addition as at the current price, the payback is under 3-1/2 years. Festool offers a long life bag which I have no experience with. Over the years I have made significant investments in dust collection and it has improved my health considerably so I consider it a wise investment that I should have done much sooner but couldn't afford it at the time. Steve
Thanks for sharing, Steve! I had no idea about the separator but I’ll be checking it out. I’m down to one filter bag left so this is timely insight!
Check out CZcams on how to make your own tracksaw. There are things that you'll need to buy but a tracksaw, especially a Festool tracksaw, isn't one of them.
I have a Harbor Freight Dust collector I use for my planner and it works great -- I have two Rockler Wall mount 1250 CFM dust collectors that work great but clog up with the planner where the HF never clogs. I use a Home Depot vac with a 5-gallon bucket with the Dustopper on top hooked to my Dewalt sander and 3 M sandpaper and it gets most of the dust. I will one day get a Festool Dust Extractor and sander but for now the Dewalt does a good job. Thanks for sharing and best wishes.
Thanks for sharing! Sounds like you have a nice setup to tackle the dust. The Harbor Freight dust collector works great for me. It does the job!
Good to see your video. Chop saw is nearly impossible to solve. My only "big" purchase is also a Festool sander, but I use with aftermarket hose and Ridgid Shop Vac (and 2-stage hepa filter) - it's a boatload cheaper than Festool dust extractor.
The Festool sander is wonderful 🤩
I enjoyed the video! Dust collection is an essential, and I like how you shared your approach and thoughts. Cheers!
Thanks for watching, John!
Just found your channel, great review on dust collection, being a retired Sheetmetal worker I appreciate your approach to dust collection, Anyways I am looking forward to future videos, thanks for sharing and bringing us along on your woodworking projects.
Thanks for following along!
Thanks for sharing. I hate the idea of avoiding a tool because of the cleanup associated with using it.
One easy no-tech improvement is keeping things off the shop floor (as much as possible) so dust can be easily blown/swept out. Anything touching the floor is a dust magnet 🧲
Such a great point about keeping things off the floor. I used to let the dust build up and do a full vac of the shop but now I love my simple broom and dustpan to stay on top of things.
I used to have an air cleaner in my garage/shop. Finally moved to a home with my dream shop. Now I just blow the air outside, no filters no air restrictions
That works too!!
Good video - just found your channel. Looking forward to more videos. I have the Festool set up you have also. It is a game changer for me. Since using my setup I notice far less dust.
Thanks for watching! I love the Festool setup. I was encouraged by a couple of other woodworkers and I'm so glad I took the leap.
I have the Festool ETS150/3 sander with the CT22 dust extractor. It is so effective, I do not wear a respirator when sanding. I had a Jet air scrubber and only turned it as I left the garage, on the 4 hour setting. That let it pull out the micro dust that can cause cancer. On my DeWalt 12 miter saw I have the Roussau shroud and a 3D printed dust collector hooked to my CT 22. Bought that from Wittworks(I think) on CZcams. The CT22 catches 60% of the dust at the source, and the shroud sends the rest into a 5 gallon bucket. Had a Jet dust collector, but gave that to my nephew when I gave him my table saw. With my Makita track saw, I have not felt the need to replace it. At the end of the day I use my CT22 and the vacuum accessory kit to clean the floor and work surfaces. Good video.
Correction, I got the DeWalt Miter saw dust collector from Shop Nation. Works great.
I like the air scrubber for the residual dust as well. The Festool has been amazing but I still wear a mask. The dust extractor has been a lifesaver. Thanks for sharing!
Congrats on your Festool,game changing.👍🏝️🇨🇦
Thanks 👍 I love it! Might have opened a can of worms though, because now I want everything Festool lol
I’m sure you’ve heard by now but try to incorporate two dust cyclone separators for your vacs. You’ll be so happy you did.
I have a lot of Festool, and the only brand new things I bought was the 54” track and the vacuum accessories. Everything else was a Craigslist find. Patience and consistency in searching has helped me. Good luck in your woodworking journey!
Same to you!! I got my whole kreg track saw system on fb marketplace. There are definitely some good deals if you can snag them at the right time!
Loved your video. I also have a small shop and except for the Harbor Freight dust collector (I use a Craftsman shop vacuum), I have exactly what you have, the Rousseau tent, the box fan and the same exact Festoolvsander and dust collector. I hook my Craftsman shop vac to Rousseau tent and I hook the Festool dust extractor up to the actual miter saw itself. I also purchased the Festool track saw, all of which I love. Try adding the Festool dust extractor to your miter saw, it might help a bit. Thanks for the video....
Thanks for watching! That’s a good idea to double up the miter saw dust collection. The tent does a pretty good job of keeping the dust contained. I was sweeping/cleaning nonstop before.
Loving the videos, keep it up!
Thank you for watching!
Hey, nice video! Great to see a new face, thank you for sharing your work!
Thanks for watching! I appreciate the nice comment 🙂
Embrace the dust💨
I've been in the woodwork industry, machining, bench joinery, carpentry and furniture manufacturing for 40 years give or take a few.
We have very large extraction systems. For 40 years I've been bringing dust home. It's in my vehicle too.
No matter how much I brush off or blast off with the air line it's in the fibres of all my work clothing.
And then there is that last bit that falls out of your pockets when you get changed🤷. Along with the odd woodscrew that you have no idea why it was in your pocket.
The dust! It follows me😂
When I first met my wife she said you smell of wood. Eventually she stopped noticing 👍.
😂 Thanks for sharing! I try my best to embrace the dust but also love the challenge of finding “solutions”. The air blast does work pretty well, I should have added that in the video 🌬️ Especially for the hair!
@@carpenterkatieco just mind using an airline blower near your ears.
@@carpenterkatieco I don't have much hair🤣
Save your pennies and get a Festool track saw. That and a CT-48 purchased about 13 years ago were my first hits of the Festool crack, and it’s been down the rabbit hole ever since. In my experience, their dust collection is second to none, especially with the sanders (as you’ve discovered). Keeping the paper clean and cooled by the airflow through it makes it last a lot longer, too. As for the bags, they make a cyclonic separator (CT-VA 20) that mounts atop the vacuum; it will catch a lot of the dust and reduce the bag changing rate. Any of the others such as those made by Oneida would likely work nearly as well, too, but would be somewhat more klugey to integrate.
Thanks for sharing! I'm very intrigued by the CT-VA 20. My bank account is quaking lol.
Very informative. Thank you from a new subscriber.
Thanks for subscribing!! Glad you enjoyed the video.
Good video, the Festool track saw is very good the new TS 60 , off course it’s quite expensive, and the dust collection is very good.
Thanks! I gotta check out their track saws. It’s a handy tool and it’s served me well since I don’t have a table saw
Hi just found your channel, I haven't used the Kreg, BUT when I moved up to the 36mm hose that was huge for the Festool track saw. I also covered the arbor hole and added a side guard. Now it is virtually dust free. Don't get me wrong, of all the tools Festool sells, the track saw is the one I would recommend the least. I think most manufacturers do the track saw pretty well....at least of the other brands I have tried. Makita and Milwaukee.
Wow I had no idea there were other hose sizes. That's good to know. I loved my original Kreg but they replaced it because I couldn't get the blade off and I've had issues with the new one since it came out of the box. Might have to think about another option but I have the Kreg track and table which I really like...
nice video! its fun to watch you talking
Glad you enjoyed it!
Nice video
Thanks for watching!
Try a MERV 13 filter for much better airborne dust removal. The 4” x 20” x 20” will fit most box fans and a standard filter in front for longer life, duct or other tape will work to hold and seal filters to the fan.
I’ll check that out! I’m due for a new filter
I can really relate to your dilemma. I work out of a tiny space as well but it's not an issue because it's only a weekend thing with me but the dust is awful I agree. You look like you have a nice little shop there and I don't think it's messy at all. There is another you tuber Shop Nation that you can look at because he 3D prints dust collection fittings for various miter saw so please check him out. Good Luck to you I hope you do well.
Woodworking is so much more fun when the dust is under control. Thanks for the recommendation, I'll check it out!
You are where I was decades ago with my Bosch 8-1/4 circular saw, Bosch saber saw, and, Bosch 110V 2 speed electronic hand drill with keyless chuck 1/2". Before that in Houston I had a 12/14" Rockwell table saw on a patio with a custom made 4 wheel steel angle iron mobile base (Rockwell was 800 lbs).
I still use the Bosch drill stand for 35MM cabinet cup hinges.
I have the CT22 vac with Oneida (NY) dust collect
attachment for the Festool vac (cutting my cost of Festool paper bags to zero; Oneida uses cheap plastic bags from Walmart.)
The Oneida cyclone with bag can be attached to my Bosch orbital sander with very effective results at half the cost of Festool sanders. I do have the Festool linear sander which is the only linear sander on the market.
You can run the Festool vac at half throttle for Bosch orbital sanding-just right.
So look into Bosch for good pricing and durability.
Stay away from Milwaukee brands or be prepared to be down when you really need a certain tool.
Vincent Chicago
Good luck.
Metabo Hitachi had a 12" blade chop saw with
2" dust port connect on sale closeout at Lowes
for $230 + a 84 tooth fine cut blade $70.
I sold my Makita laser chop saw as it would do dangerous cut and I was fearful of losing a hand.
The more expensive chop saws have superior dust collection.
Thanks for sharing, Vincent! I'll definitely be researching some of things you mentioned. I hadn't heard of the Oneida attachment for the Festool vac.
I love my festool products. I liken Festool to Apple, its a well engineered system that you buy into and it just works together really well. Festool is the buy once cry once. Expensive yes, but I have yet to make a purchase from them that i regret.
I agree with you! I’m glad I started woodworking at entry level so I can really appreciate the difference quality tools make.
Personally, I use a DeWalt cyclone connected to a Rigid shop vac with a hepa filter and bag.
That sounds like a great setup! Thanks for watching
Tracksaw advice - do yourself a huge favor and get the festool. Zero dust. Zero (well, some minor dust if your cutoff piece is less than 1/8", like when squaring an edge, but other than that, it's as good as your ETS - yes, really). It's spendy, for sure, but you will be amazed, if you spend a lot of time with sheet goods. Plus more benefits like no fuzzy cuts or chip-out, no kickbacks, and easy depth adjustments. Changed how I feel about my shop.
Oh, sorry, great vid with great ideas for the small shop, thanks!
Dust collection on the Kreg is about the same as the Festool saw. The only reason I switched was literally because the Kreg doesn't work on Festool rails and I'm going to be using the LR-32 system.
The Festool track saw is very tempting! My Kreg has been giving me issues which is why I haven't been using it as much and I'm already on my second replacement saw with them 😓
All Fess tool have integrated dust collection so they work well. Weight until you get a Domino almost no dust.
I love the two pieces I have! My Festool wishlist is growing…
A baby sun/beach tent is a cheap alternative to the Rousseau dust hood. It's not perfect, but on a budget $25 vs $200
That’s a good idea bc the $200 is really a lot. Thanks for watching!
Festool make great tools but there sandpaper is crap for the price try the 3m extract it lasts longer and it’s cheaper you will have to buy a soft pad to put on your sander you probably got one with your sander I’m sure you won’t be disappointed.
Thank you! I'll try out the 3m in the future, I've heard good things. For now I still have so much Festool paper left 😂 I thought I would go through it much faster.
Given you're in a basement and have fiberglass insulation, you might want to consider covering your entire ceiling with plastic (eg: like vapor barrier). Once you get dust into fiberglass you'll never get it out.
I've been thinking about this. Thanks for the suggestion!
Good approach to dust collection. I've had the Kreg track saw and the thing that helped most with dust collection was getting a cover for the arbor hole. Festool makes some great products but their sand paper is not that great for the price. I've been using the 3M extract and cubitron mesh discs which have been far superior and less expensive.
Thanks for watching! I actually have the arbor hole cover for my Kreg, I was hoping it would help more than it has. I get a lot of dust coming out the front (it seems) which then builds up between the track and the table. A table saw is probably best for the types of repeat cuts I'm making, but I've been stubborn about buying one. I'll check into the 3M discs! Definitely to open to trying other brands (once mine run out 😅).
@@carpenterkatieco there will always be a bit coming out of the front. I considered it to be a great improvement over a circular saw with nothing. Haven’t been cutting much other than plywood with the Festool and I still dust out front. Would have kept the Kreg if it could ride Festool tracks.
upgrade your bag to a filter, it will make it easier to keep down the dust and save your lungs. I also hope that you wear a respirator when doing any work.
Yes, I always wear a mask! Even if I want to be lazy, I find the dust to be extremely irritating so I always put it on. I'm going to look into the filter, that would definitely be a good upgrade.
super +++++
Thank you!!
I hear you on the ugly bulk of the miter saw shroud.
Would the majority of your cutting needs be met with a festool track saw/mft3?
Perhaps! Going to study up on that option. So many great ways to spend my money in this comment section lol 💸💸