Your Next Home Theater - Just Video Walls at Cedia 2023
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- Your Next Home Theater - Just Video Walls at Cedia 2023
The technology here was stunning. This wide screen display you see about half way through is the PERFECT home theater screen. THIS IS THE WAY.
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• How many PIP can the system handle?
o This depends on which processor is attached. But we currently cap at 16 simultaneous, albeit those would not all be 4k. That is expanding soon too. The best answer for you is it depends. 😊
• How many different sources can the controller handle?
o Same answer as above. We also have some higher end systems that enable more inputs. But it’s capable of a lot.
• Can the controller be upgraded independently of the display?
o Yes! We can do a basic intro controller and then upgrade later. But we need to know if that’s the intent from the get-go so we can ensure compatibility.
• Is changing aspect ratio automatically handled?
o The system works on presets, so you can have it trigger these with a command from a control system. Then you can zoom/crop or letterbox as you desire.
• Can I dim the display?
o They are 100% dimmable, again controlled by preset right now. We also have an ambient light sensor for some of our processor options.
• Can I run a single small window and not use the whole wall?
o You can run 1 pixel or all of them independently. So, if you want to run only a small 90” 16:9 window, but have all the other pixels turned off, you can do that.
• How much heat does a system produce?
o It depends on the tech, brightness, and pixel pitch.
• How much power does a system produce?
o Same as previous 😊
• Where I can I see how the system is installed?
o We will have some resources soon for this, but our end-users will not be authorized to do their own install (for a LOT of reasons, unless the end user is an authorized dealer)
• Where can I see the system in actual use? Switching between inputs, set up PIP, etc.
o We will create more resources for this as we continue to expand the business into more and more jobs. Will happy very soon.
• What is the specific lag for gaming? What about 120/240hz?
o Down to 1 frame lag. Almost all our tech refreshes at 3840hz at the wall, but the processor is limited by the HDMI input, so we are getting up to 120hz input right now.
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the biggest thing about first or second generation tech for the consumer how reliable is it and what is the life span of the unit . Can the unit be repaired if failure occurs and what is the cost compared to investment for the unit. for example if the lifespan were 5 years and the cost was over 20K that would not be a good investment. last how adaptable will this unit be 5 or 6 years down the road with the latest tech
@@christhompson6010 Great comment. In general walls are more upgradable than single panel direct view TVs. The individual panels are swappable, processing is in an external box… as long as the mounting gear can continue to be used things are in a good spot for upgradability. It would be nice to be able to refresh the tech every 10 years or so.
Who can buy a 40k or 360k? Projectors are way cheaper than that.
And the price is ?
@@zzzxxzzz3248 Where are you located? We can put you in contact with a dealer.
I’ll be back in ten years when I might be able to afford this.
Lets hope!!!
@@JilesMcCoyI Will back in 20 years.
Open a brokerage account. Buy some stocks! Get a business and start a passive income! I am currently investing in stock right now and this is the future I want to get into. My best friend on the other hand is planning on doing some passive income by turning one of his cabin into an Airbnb and as a 2nd source of income, he will eventually get into stocks. Don't just rely on one source of income; your paycheck.
Once a multi-million dollar commercial solution, now a $40k-400k solution, this is becoming a very reasonable.
This is the rule for all screen technologies given enough time.
40" plasma TVs cost $40,000 when they were released.
Super true
Reasonable? Hitting the crack pipe early I see. It's overpriced to the shithouse. It will be $1,499 in 4 years time.
@@my2cents198 We can hope!
yet, proving his point@@my2cents198
@@my2cents198Stop talking B.S. 🤣🤣🤣
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If I buy this screen I’ll have to charge my friends for game night and sell drinks at my home in order to pay it back.
If you had this screen they just might pay for that! ha!
You smart bad lol😂
I love that tall mirror looking thing, so I can put it somewhere in my house and have pictures of my love ones constantly switching on it. I have to have that.
Its super cool!
If you need to speak with them let me know.
Finally, micro LED explained for a layman like myself 😮
Thank you!!
Please what is the price
Watch the video for those details.
Mind blowing
I agree!
A projector is the equivalent of a Timex watch in a digital world.
I think it will become a niche… like tube amps.
4:54 - Turning your lights off or dimming lights down for movies, sports etc is not "weird." What's weird is dropping 40K on something that will be $6k 3 years from now.
Have you seen the new Hisense 100" for 5k? Thats a game changer!
@@JilesMcCoy Ja id still rather pay 2k for a 65 oled and sit 8 feet not 12 away from the screen lol. I'm not gaming on that hisense pile of trash.
Also mentions 600 nits is more than enough. is it just me or does that seem to be about half of what current Qd-Oleds are doing? HDR content is ideal at a minimum of 1000 nits. Too expensive for just 600 nits imo!
Great video!
Glad you enjoyed it
Imagine having the ability to watch every sports game that is live atm. Unreal.
That would be amazing!
Once the price drops below $10k vs $40k now, this will overtake projectors. Eventually in 10 years this will have 10-20% of the regular TV market
I agree. Its just a matter of time.
Doubt it. Most people don’t want to cover their walls with a screen due to limited space. Unless you are a home theater enthusiast, or someone with a gigantic house and extra space and rooms to do stuff like this in them. And then imagine the enormous energy cost to power these displays daily. It will be cost prohibitive for 80 to 90% of the worlds population.
So cool
I agree!
I swear I saw this tech in Avatar 2009 (Director's Cut) near the beginning of the movie. Another example of sci-fi becoming reality
that was a holographic display
Thanks for watching!
super impressive
I agree
When I can get 4k 120hz for $2-3K for a wall, I'll be interested.
Me too! That will be outstanding.
Imagine 3d in a cinema on a micro led,that contrast ratio would do wonders for pop..
That would be awesome!
Great review.
Glad you enjoyed it
Keep up the great work bro!
Thanks!
600 nits … the moment HDR lefts the room.
Thanks for watching!
Hey pretty cool. If you're pretty rich or have a very good business you can add one or more of these beautiful huge TV's. Very cool.
Agreed. The 40k wall is expensive, but it not like 600,000 expensive. I wonder how long it takes 40k to drop to 10k. Then it’s for sure worthwhile in a home cinema.
@@JilesMcCoy Yes agreed 👍
Whoa 😮 brilliant 🤩 hefty pricetag, though
From England 🏴
Agreed!
@ 4:52 facts lol
Please share the video on all the social channels! Thanks!
What size is that 2nd. Just Video Walls display? (the one above the fireplace)
I dont recall at this point.
I see it more useful in commercial spaces than a home.
As prices come down it will displace projection. Its still expensive now.
What do you mount the panels on if you want them curved?
You would need to discuss with a CI.
Naw, I've had a 150in home theater since 2020. My next upgrade will be a virtual 150-200in screen via Apple VisionPro!
Apple Music
dope af
instant sub
Thanks!
Me: I really need to cancel my $75 cable bill as I don't watch enough TV.
Also Me: I really need a video wall like this to watch TV.
Thanks for watching!
Are they at a point where they can make the screen in a cinemascope ratio?
Absolutely.
i was wondering this is gonna shows 2.35 /1.78 ratio as wide screen without blk bars on top & bottom too?
i mean gonna adjust itself like projector ?
The display can be any shape you want. Obviously that doesn’t change once it’s installed. It can display at whatever aspect ratio on that screen you want it to with black bars as required. You can also run the video through a processor and stretch content to fit if you want. Nothing really different than other displays. The screen can do anything any other display can. It does all the multiple Picture in Picture as well. Such as watching 3 football games at the same time.
Few questions.
1. How does this tech compare to LG OLED 24 FPS movie quality experiences, in terms of refresh rate and soap-opera effect?
2. How much heat do these giant TVs output?
3. How much electricity do they use?
#2 and 3 depend on how many Micro LED modules you're using.
My understanding is that you have full control over the soap opera effect.
Would be nice if they can manufacture triangular screens? Triangles screens could be used to build dome screens.
Nice!
Hey, I think your product is innovated and it’s beautiful. Fantastic I really really interested in stuff like this one day beautiful super super neat very high-tech tech.👑💯
It’s very cool!
The first screen looked much better than the second screen.
Thanks for watching!
I like it
Me too!
Why was the price segment deleted?
I had to move it because of copyright of the movie playing in the background. You can see it in the other version I uploaded.
When I become a Millionaire... this will be the first thing Im gonna get it 4 sure.
Me too! I really want this!
U guys can anyone explain to me the difference between a standard video wall like in this video and the Samsung wall tv
I mostly need to know the difference in price range
Prices are all over the place. You just need to talk to some dealers. Let me know if you need a contact.
Tell me more abot that 1/12 scale porche RSR 934 model kit beside you!
Nice!
You can throw stuff at the screen?! Perfect for The Donald. 😂😂
Thanks for watching!
Video wall is the future. 15 years from now they will be everywhere at an affordable price.
Agreed. Maybe sooner.
You showed that the led tile can bend if you want to curve around corners. But how can you do that when the cabinet cant bend?
I would guess that you would get a cabinet shaped how you need it.
Dude $40k? You buy 75” LED Tvs and put them together to watch different games. Spend way less. I love the technology but it is too expensive
That exactly the price point I hope to see in the future. Around 5 or 6K for a 150" setup.
@@JilesMcCoy This is definitely the TV of the future. You choose your size and you pay. Then, you can distribute that size into one screen or as many as you want. If they went for the price of an expensive projector, I will get one. But I love it!
We are almost there. When 40k gets to 20K it will be the era of the giant migration from projection to screen.@@theforeignerinamerica1817
Fine
For sure, super fine!
The reasons for buying a projector are getting fewer and fewer…..
I agree!
Acoustically, it's still oftentimes a superior option.
Large reflective displays can present quite the challenge to acoustic optimization.
Whereas a quality acoustically transparent screen can offer superb characteristics and performance.
Yeah, I started commenting years ago that projectors need to be thrown in the trashcan.
@@RedLeo-pf9yo I am 100% ready switch from a projector to a wall. I love the the idea of pairing Just Video Walls with TPI Audio.
@@JilesMcCoy - Heck yeah !!!
Awe
It is awesome!
I'll take two.
Me too!
4:43 ABSOLUTELY YES but not many peeps have 40k to toss down on a screen. Then you need someone w/ a big enough house to put the screen. Id go off that. Whats the consumer need in terms of space on average to house this thing then factor in whats that consumer worth and you have a price range to keep w/ in. I have no clue what that is. Factor in your production capacity for the upper mid or lower end of that spectrum and its a good start.
When the 120" version of this is affordable it will go crazy.
How much for a 130" wall? I was just on the cusp of purchasing a So y projector, anamorphic lens, and high end screen. This would look way better. Would I be correct that I’d a 238" = $40k , that ROUGHLY a 130" = $20k? if so you might have a buyer
I think you are around the 40K mark for the 130" wall. The 2nd wall they showed is the 40K amount one.
Ah , so the led cabinet is in a box ? 😅👌 But yeah , amazing :)
The display panel plugs into a frame on the back… is that what you mean?
@@JilesMcCoy Wouldn't that describe any tv though?
After awhile no matter how big your screen is….you get use to it and the WOW factor goes away. Nice to have, I’m sure it is, but really how much is too much?
Too much is when you go beyond what is comfortable to view.
When it gets to $10,000 and under then we can start talking about replacing my projector!!!… I work for a living!!😅
The big turning point will be at the 30k price point. Thats price parity with the top end JVC projector. The next turning point is the 20K price point. When you can get an appropriately sized wall at 20K the tide will start turning against projection in a real way.
Why you cut out the price???
It’s in the other video.
If we're going to have 3D printing of homes, and curved walls, a curved display might make some sense. Or for immersive content. Or...
You can get bendable units not. They are cool!
There's a company that 3d Prints homes right now! they're the only company that can.
I like the solution but unless having a black painted wall a huge object on the living room wall doesn't look great. I'll stick with my affordable 4k laser projector for the time being.
I winder if these could ever be like a Frame from Samsung.
Still needs to be for everybody's home option. Yes, for millions or billions of homes, you can install this. But I will wait until the technology becomes available for consumers. Currently, 100" LEDs are very affordable, so this is only expensive because it is new and, like the iPhone, charges too much for its technology, but when this goes into bulk production, it will be much cheaper.
False. This isn't expensive just because it's new.
It's expensive because of the low yields and high time consumption that result from placing each individual Micro LED into each module.
Thanks for watching!
600nits peak brightness? Dimmer than a mid range OLED?
So you are saying its like an OLED?
Don't see this as a standard home use option until the price can get on par with competitors.
I agree, but it’s closer than we think.
Can't you see any lines between the modules? Has technology advanced a lot?
When it’s off and you put your face on it you can. When it’s on and you are watching it’s not visible for any decent system.
The end of projectors is near.
One step closer.
Video Walls are used on most concerts, tv shows like The Voice, America Got Talent etc. They are very expensive. I worked on events with them. Eventually these walls will be in your local movie theaters as prices go down.
In 2 or 3 years they will be at cost parity with upscale enthusiast home theaters. Its almost there. I am planning to upgrade my screen to a wall from projection as my next big upgrade.
Cost? Also can you play video games on this?
Depends on size and yes.
Where in the video does it say that the first video wall cost 40k?
Watch this version: czcams.com/video/laH39x4Hm78/video.html
Doesn't the "ONE" mansion in LA have one of these mounted in the bar?
Thanks for watching!
What about input video quality.....
Not sure what you mean. It supports 4k. And the big ones 8K I think.
I would be very interested to see how the software works with showing multiple content streams, How seamless would it be switching from watching a film in 16:9, to divided the screen into 4 sports events. As of now, it just feels like false marketing, since they are just showing a pre rendered video, ive never seen one working in the real world
It’s legit. It does all those things. It’s amazing.
@@JilesMcCoy Could you please explain in some more detail, how exactly is it done by the user?
@@YungRamo When I get one installed I'll make a video about it!
ok thanks, I will be waiting. (have you already ordered one? ETA?)
@@YungRamo No, I don't have budget right now. Gotta buy cars for 2 teens and that is all I can think about at the moment :-)
Gee I'd hate for things to get weird with my buddies on game night lol
heh
A fabulous wall for all those up and coming millionaires. Movies, extra.
Hopefully soon for the typical consumer!
Ask Marty if I may borrow that's sports book for 2023 and 2024.
It would be awesome for sports!
The cost is astronomical only a couple hundred thousand dollars 💸
40k
4:52 I would love this at less than 10k but seriously who has money for this stuff?
You see these in commercial settings a lot. Like at a huge sports bar or for advertising. They are in high end home installs… but as price goes down you will see them penetrate into the more typical consumer market. Considering that 100” single panel TVs are now at the 4-5k mark, we should see wall systems drop down precipitously. They will start to take over at the 108” and larger size and start consuming the UST market and then the projection market. Considering their picture will be superior to that of 40k plus projectors it will be easy for them to compete when pricing hits parity.
how many years have we seen the wall
This was the first I’ve seen this particular iteration.
I can envision myself investing initially in a reasonably sized 16:9, then upgrade later to expand it horizontally to 21:9, then stack them vertically, and so on and so on. that would be so wonderful, in a upgrade-as-you-go approach, reducing e-waste, and easy on the wallet. but, caveat is tech always advances, what if the new panel additions don't play nice with older panels or old panels become obsolete fast?
I agree that would be an outstanding way to go!
and you did not answer his question sir. a very good question indeed
@@JilesMcCoy
Similar to the Ventana MicroLED.
Yes!
How much?
Depends on the size. Do you need a sales contact?
I wonder what the profit margin is on this since it's marketed toward businesses and rich people.
Healthy I am sure.
I think projectors will still be very relevant for another decade with the wall prices as high as 30k. That’s a bit steep. Until there’s a huge market, and it’s mass produced, this will be for wealthy people.
GIve it 5 years and this will be less than a mid range projector.
You can buy a 4K projector and a 300" wall screen and have the same setup for much less. It won't be micro LED technology but it will still be 4K.
You can have a setup, but its not the same. Its less expensive, depending on equipment (you can buy a million dollar projector if you want) but the big point is that in the near future this tech will be less expensive and better than equivalent projection systems for cost. When you can get a 130" wall for 10K its the end of most home projection.@@CompetitionSportsNetwork
I am glad that we do not have television in our home. A total waste of time. When I purchased the home we did a down to the studs gut remodel and the first thing that went was the dedicated home theater. This room has become home to a two channel audio listening room. We don't need distracting visuals or a venue for commercials, politics and disinformation. Nothing more annoying when I view multi million dollar homes is the sheer amount of television monitors all over the place.
You have the ability to watch what you want... You only consume the things you pointed out if you want to do so.
I see a lot of high end homes and live in one myself. Excessively large television systems displayed in major living areas of homes are obnoxious. I feel that public rooms of a home should be about people, conversations and not sucked in by corporate media designed to "entertain" constantly through movies, TV, games and such. Can't people hold conversations anymore? Once saw a home here in Las Vegas, a 20 million dollar home that had no less than 30 televisions inside and out. We git it, it is a party palace but there is more to life than TV. We get it, you sell these devices - great. Most modern media is simply two hours of CGI special effects. @@JilesMcCoy
Not that long ago ... Panasonic's 103" plasma was $100k ... and it weighed +700lbs!
It quickly became a dinosaur.
Times are changing!!!!
Yeah in 2004 !!!! 😂😂😂😂
@@LEMON48 The progress we have made is amazing.
Panny had a 150” as well at 4K resolution. I want it lol
I have installed that TV we had 4 guys and a lift lol. There is pair installed above some people in a City Hall setting
Disney's Smart House is coming true finally! Wake up to an orchestra on your wall
For sure
Wondering about the price…let me tell you more info before the price. Is this a review or QVC?
Its informational. I don't have a unit to review here yet. One day!
Had to laugh at the casual manner in which he said, $40k; and that was the cheap option.
The technology is definitely the future for the home theatre experience, but damn... that price has to come down. Once it's under $10k, sign me up.
Its coming!
@@JilesMcCoy I'm looking forward to it.
I don't know if your company installs Samsung products, but can you explain to me what the difference is between Samsung "Direct View LED" and "The Wall"?
Just Video Walls doesn't sell Samsung gear, but I image you can get an opinion from a dealer.
@JilesMcCoy Well, it's more of a technical question than brand related. But thanks anyways . 🙄
@@velocityacoustics That’s what I am getting at. A dealer can likely answer that question. Each manufacturer probably doesn’t talk much about competitors.
I see the seams
I couldn't.
I was gonna say the same thing that's why I would not buy this even if it was 1000 squid I'd only buy it if it's one panel anything more than 2 then you can see the lines where there joined another reason why I would never by a foldable phone. as you can see the crease. If I was going to use it for say 4 screens different channels then I can put up with that but for one full video, nope
You dont see the seams on these. You should check them out.@@woogieman007
Can you do 4k 120hz?
$360,000 - even if you have all the money in the world, I wouldn't pay that. Technology will be gett'n better and that TV should cost $10 to 20k MAX!
I think 15k is going to be the tipping point for these screens.
What's the make of that video wall going for 40k?
Its from Just Video Walls. Let me know if you need any contact details for them.
@@JilesMcCoyI do. Please
I do please.
Yes I do please.
@@Luke-qs2cg Send me an email at jiles@jilesmccoy.com
3:49 WTF happened to the price????? 4:14
Here: Your Next Home Theater - Just Video Walls Micro LED Video Wall
czcams.com/video/laH39x4Hm78/video.html
That was fast......Thanks @@JilesMcCoy
This technology is still priced for the 1%. Still waiting until it gets down for the 60-80% lol
I’d say the lower end is ready for the top 5%. But yeah, when the low end drops another 50% sales are going to skyrocket.
WHO BURPED AT 4:58 😂😂😂😂😂😂!!??
The gremlins!
He talks about it going into home cinemas then says it costs $40k. Only a certain demographic (read small) could/would pay that amount of money on a home cinema screen.
The take home message is that this is the same cost as a 42" plasma when they came out. This price will come down to less than 10K quickly. And be available for DIY folks. The clock is ticking quickly.
4:58 600 nits?? 🤔
Indeed, not bad. The higher end units are brighter of course.
Video walls kind of suck for home theater. You can 't put speakers behind them, and if they're big enough, you can't fit any in front of them either. And, still extremely pricey. Cool as infodisplays and whatnot, sure.
Did you see what Barco is doing to solve the speaker problem?
What’s Barco?
@@chriswindham9868 They had a demo of how you get around speaker placement issues with a video wall at CEDIA. Video walls will eat a huge chunk of the projector market over the next several years.
Check out the TPI Audio motion controller. It addresses the speaker placement issue.
The video got cut when he was talking about the pricing? Is that intentional / marketing gimmick ?
No, CZcams cut it because of copyright of the movie playing behind him. I reedited and uploaded the longer version that has that all included. Just watch that one :-)
Was very interested until hearing that the cheap one is $40k 🤯
The interesting point is that is it only 40K now. Thats a HUGE drop. Our time is coming!
i could see this solution for budget to mid size home theatres. but the price puts them into the high end. in the high end i dont give up my center channel behind the screen. Its just not happening. i dont give up 50-60% immersion for a small gain in picture quality compared to what projectors can do. at the price point ( 40k ) you have a void in the projector landscape and there isnt really a solution for that price point. so you would have to go down quite a bit or up. So thats maybe one point the wall has for itself. But the other screen ist multiple hundreds of thousends? at that point u can get a 32.000 lumen projector. that beast can hit those 600 nits as well for living room scenarios. sure its not AS good. because ... well its projected on a white or grey screen and not a black one. But i dont see giving up the center channel for it. Remember, the center channel is like 80%+ of die dialog in a movie. try watch a movie in a language u dont understand. then u will see how important it is to have good dialog quality. you can gimp on a center under / above the screen. and at a 21:9 solution this doesnt seem terrible. but in a high end scenario i still dont give up that much for an worse expirience in a blacked out room. directly lit surfaces strain the eyes more then reflective light sources.
You don’t have to give up the center channel. Lots of speaker options out there that use line array style speaker to drop the audio image right in the center of the screen. Times have changed for audio tech and projectors are on the way out for ultra high end installations. This will slowly trickle down to high end over the next few years.
"for a small gain in picture quality"
Tell me you don't comprehend what Micro LED is without telling me you don't comprehend what Micro LED is. 🤣🤣🤣
Than. NOT then.
@@PSYCHOV3N0M looks liek someone hasnt seen pictures from projectors that cost equal amounts of money. oh noo what a public upsie.
lol x) what a self own.
Only 40 k for a display? Sign me up 😂
Its almost at the same cost of a projector. Almost there.
Ok
It’s pretty awesome.