WOULD YOU BUY THIS? - SodaStream Machine Alternative
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- čas přidán 10. 09. 2024
- This is a new concept that we are looking for advice on and we want to hear from our subscribers. Do you think we should make this product? Would you buy this product?
I feel like adding a hose would be a good idea. That could potentially let me hide the tank below a cabinet and then have this device to carbonate the water and make it look like magic
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Good idea. The SodaStream is a decent looking appliance that people aren't afraid to put on their countertop. I don't think anyone other than a bachelor under 30 would be okay with a gas cylinder in their kitchen - parka or not. Might work for someone to stock their fridge with multiple sodastream bottles that they gas up in their garage.
What about the ability to connect a standard cylinder to an existing SodaStream? This would allow someone who has become addicted to bubbly water to migrate into less expensive refills, assuming they have the ability to locate the tank remotely.
Pretty sure this already exists. Just use a standard soda stream machine and an adapter on the back of it to connect a hose, then onto a 2.6kg cylinder.
Absolutely - I have gone online to try to find a product like this and I have previously bought an adapter hose to go from 2.6kg to sodastream unit.
At $70 I'd buy this without hesitation
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Would be sweet if you could carbonate standard PET bottles with it instead of the Sodastream type nozzle.
Yes this is a fair point. I will bring that up with the guys here.
Yep I would buy one today if you could hook up PET bottles to it
I do this already with there carbonation cap
@@colwk I do the exact same thing!
@@colwk same here. I use the carbonation cap with a length of food grade pvc tube attached and a carbonation stone on the end (works the same without the stone, but it's on there now). Pressurise to 40psi and shake for 10 - 20 seconds. Make sure the water is cold first.
Yes, Neopreene or other "Wife approval factor" cover would be good. Also a "Foot" for the Tank, as it looks like its going to fall over.
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Option for PET would be great. I'd think generically speaking - if you have sodastream bottles, you probably have a sodastream which gives you options for refilling from larger or adapter to replace with larger cylinder.
Making it suited for PET + Sodastream (small adapter in connector?) could add value.
If goes into purification if like to see it moulded at bottle connection side with mounting holes so it could be possible to mount on a cupboard/keezer/door with ability to use direct to bottle or hose to remote mount
Nice idea overall. Clean looking unit - but big with the bottle
I already use a co2 cylinder and carbonate a 5 gallon corny keg - though it does take a bit of shaking and really a day or so before the water is fully carbonated. In the interim while I’m waiting for that, I use a 2 liter soda bottle and a carbonation cap. I shake it for about 2 minutes while connected to co2 for it to fully carbonate.
The concept is great but as our SS machine lives on the bench, this setup would look too industrial to replace it. We instead use the Kegland SS cylinder refill valve to refill the original bottles, or we use the Kegland adaptor hose which allows connection of main cylinder direct to the SS machine with the bottle hidden. Those two devices work perfect for us and we go through a LOT of Soda water.
Yup!!! 100% I’d Buy one especially if the bottles are compatible with soda stream bottles’ thread, I don’t mind the huge bottle for the qty it produces!
I would buy one if you engineered a shroud to cover the 2.6kg bottle. Otherwise you already sell the products necessary to connect to an existing machine while hiding the gas bottle away
So cool that you'd make videos about ideas that you guys are thinking about. I love checking in every now and then to see what you've come up with next!
Awesome!
As someone who bought a sodastream adapter hose from you guys - absolutely it's a great idea! I would have gone with this instead: I had zero interest in the small sodastream cylinders and love getting to swap in the larger CO2 bottles. Neoprene cover is an interesting idea as would other ways of hiding it.
I'm intrigued by the possibility of doing PET bottles as others have mentioned, though I guess pressure integrity would be the concern in repeated reuse scenarios. Am ok to stick to sodastream bottles (or similar) if there was a safety concern.
Love the work on the concept though, great idea.
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As a reseller of your equipment it makes sense but you should integrate a plastic gas bottle cover as part of it. Just plain white plastic would be fine, but make it a shape that would be easy, for example, to cover with vinyl wrap so people can colour co-ordinate it with their kitchen or bar.
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As someone who drinks a lot of carbonated water absolutely id buy one. Take my money!!
Years ago, a friend turned a stainless bolt on a lathe to turn it into a through-holed barb with a threaded portion to clamp a bottle cap, and this was the start of our carbonation adventures. Many years were spent shaking PET bottles until I found your "Carbonation Lid for Continuous Soda Water", which I set up in the Kegerator alongside the latest brew, and I have to say, it's just so nice to have it endlessly available and on tap. The lid itself is very inexpensive (and it works a treat!), but getting it all the way plumbed turns out to be quite a lot of fittings, so maybe a kit for that would do well.
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Yesssss!!! Absolutely!! I’d be buying one for myself & a couple for presents! A cover over it is nice, but it’d depend on the cost of the cover. But yes definitely would buy it! Please make it!!!
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Yes, my wife drinks a ton of carbonated water! And I brew my own beer. So I've actually been thinking it would be a great excuse to get a CO2 cylinder to both pressurize tapwater for the Mrs, and to carbonate my newly brewed beers as well (in still-to-purchase kegs). Having a kit like this would be perfect for me.
Though I agree with the others: strong preference to be able to reuse 'regular' PET bottles (I live in Northern Europe; not sure if there's a worldwide standard?). I'd be put off by being required to use Sodastream or other proprietary containers/consumables.
I have very limited countertop space, so would probably store it on the floor with that cover, maybe in a pantry, or in the garage/shed (and pressurize several bottles once a week or so).
This wouldn't be the product for your use case then, you would be quickly infecting everything because of the dip tube. Just get a cylinder and regulator, ball lock disconnect and the soda bottle ball lock caps. Then you can do the soda bottles, and then you could use the Oxebar kegs, or stainless mini kegs, or you're halfway to a full kegging setup already.
Very interesting. A lot in favour, I must admit it is a good idea for some. I have had my soda stream on a bench sitting on a bench in my kitchen with the 2.6 kg bottle underneath in a cupboard connected, via a neat hole drilled through my bench, by the kegland supplied connector. It just works. The aesthetics are just great.
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Looks absolutely dreadfull, but I'd still buy one because of how practical it is. Thanks KegLand
Great idea. I would love a sodastream for the wife to have carb water on tap (more or less). But I also don't want her having to go outside to my beer fridge (and utilizing one of my kegs which takes forever to carbonate).
The one thing that's stopped me buying a SS is the gas issue.
I would definitely be a purchaser
Thanks for that we appreciate the feedback. Have you tried using the carbonation reactor lid. This carbonates really fast.
If this worked with standard PET bottles instead it would be a winner for me! The comments saying this is something which you already sell in the form of a carbonation kit are incorrect, it isn't the same thing. I've been trying to build one for my own use, but mine would be on the end of a hose that allows me to put the 5 pound cylinder under the counter
This is a great concept, although the FreedomOne with a stronger upgraded hose is a more practical approach in terms of "operational bench top". I had your FreedomOne fittings retro fitted with a suitable hose and works well.
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YES!!!!!!!
Before I’ve even watched it.
YES!!!!!! Just build it already and take your my money
Yes please. Make it & I'll buy it👍
Yes absolutely.
Yes I'd buy. I've a garage setup with co2. Any used 2l soft drink bottle to recycle then no countertop needed given the volume
The problem with the SodaStream is that you can only use water without syrup. I only know of one product that works with syrup. That would be a really big advantage.
It’s pretty bulky so it probably wouldn’t work in our house.
Happy with just using the filling adaptor and my co2 kegland cylinders on my beer gas cylinder when I get it changed.
Not sure I see the point- don’t you sell a hose that fits a soda stream and allows the use of larger cylinders? Would look a lot better on the benchtop
This is great for having in a garage, but part the appeal and honestly CONVENIENCE of the Sodastream setup is being able to have it on a countertop also. So having an optional 'housing' and a feed line would be ideal if you wanted to mount it on the countertop as a drop in replacement.
IMO as other commenters have mentioned, the best in class alternative would be able to connect to PET bottles, either as a handheld or countertop plastic unit, with either a direct or piped connection back to the tank.
This would be good, but it needs the ability to release c02 from your drink slowly.
The soda stream can’t do it, but some other products have the ability to bleed off the c02 so you don’t get a crazy foaming if you carbonate something other than water.
You can use a standard pet bottle if you buy a few RED/Yellow FermZilla - Liquid/Gas Post Plastic Carbonation Caps. You just hook up your gas bottle and regulator to a duotight Ball Lock Disconnect.
Damn this had me very excited at first but then I can't lug my 20L tank around. I want to use the soda stream as a mobile keg dispenser or on the counter for water. I'd say this would be really cool if I could charge a soda stream type of cylinder with my main CO2 canister via some type of transfer outlet
Absolutely yes. But as other have said maybe make an adapter to suit pco1881 thread
I would like it if it had a whip of hose from the co2 tank to the device. Great alternative I would keep with my brewing stuff.
YES and the neoprene cover as well. a great idea
Nice if it would fit different types of soda bottles: standard PET, sodastream plastic & glass , etc (?)
One thing to reflect on: today the sodastream device is in the kitchen, taking not so much space and looking "nice" on the counter. So how to solve that matter, as I'm not convinced of the black neoprene "bag".
That is, in fact, one of the big questions
Yes, please! I will buy one. Agree with different nozzles. Would be nice to reuse PET bottles, or latch type bottles.
I like it. I'm using a pretty janky setup to refill my soda stream tanks. I would be very interested in this.
I believe that many of the people that watch your videos already have invested in a Sodastream already thus one is enough so no I sure would not buy this , but definitely looking into using a large co2 tank to my Sodastream
I would buy it, great idea
.Yes, I would love this. Please.
I think it would be way more hassle than a soda bottle with a carbonation cap, don't have to worry about cleaning the dip tube and can dial in the carbonation exactly where I want it. Can keep the pressure in as well, don't have to unscrew it from this before capping.
Just do the "all-go"-adapter, wich pull the bottle neck/opening (what ever diameter size) towards the flat soft surface, then the co2 burst to the bottle (what ever form) similarly as original. The bottle staying between co2-head and lifting bottle stand.
I would say yes, but I rekon the weight of the 2.6kg steel would deter some people from having them on the kitchen bench. Personally I keep my machine on the top shelf of my cupboard out of sight, so I can avoid that problem. Id much prefer to use a 2.6kg, but I’d probably keep it in the garage with my brew gear or in a low-bench. To me that’s not a problem but it may be for others
Love that you guys are thinking outside the box, and trying to save us money!
I probably wouldn't buy it based on the design shown - our kitchen countertop space is at a premium (Newtown terrace in Sydney). What I would buy would be something similar that sits snugly on top of my Series X, that I can hook into my existing kegerator gasline (my kegerator sits near our stairs). It would be cool if I could plumb some sort of sodastream gas refill tap into my existing font, but I'd be reluctant to give up a tap :-)
This would also win brownie points with the wife as we could then ditch the countertop sodastream machine :-)
Nice idea but a bit bulky, i just fill my sodastream bottles with your adapter
We have a Soda stream machine so we would have to work out the benefits of one system over the other. The hose you sell would give us the same result.
If we were starting out I would get that system in a heartbeat..👍
Is I think the hose is a good option. This is a bit more compact so we are interested to see if this type of solution would be more preferable than the hose or not.
@@KegLand yes my wife likes the fact that the new one is very compact
Yes, I would purchase one.
I'd buy one straight away.
Yes! Refilling from the larger bottles is a PIA.
Yes I agree. I think this would really simply the process.
Would be great if you can then make all 3 current CO² threads so all countries can benefit ... eg (W21.8) (CGA320) (G5/8) ... hope I got that right. .... but I would also prefer a PET option 👍
Anything to make life easier and cheaper sounds good. I am game.
Yes, I think it's a good idea, perhaps making it with an adapter as well to fit PET bottle with a pco1881 carb cap on it. That way, you could store multiple carbonated beverages without loosing any carbonation from removing the cap.
👍Absofreekinlutely!
I was just researching the sailing and off-grid channels for a more affordable and reliable 'bulk soda' option than any of the the Soda stream gear. So, refilling and reusing standard PET bottles - that's a big YES from me.
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This is cool! Definitely something i'd recommend to my friends and family who have soda streams.
But I wouldn't get one myself because I am planning on having carbonated water and homebrew in my keezer, and i rather only maintain one CO2 tank.
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Yeah I think I would grab one
Yes for sure🎉
Yes, I think it would sell, especially if you owned a kegerator/draft system, and your kegerator was empty, and you wanted some fizzy soda, or carbonate a wort, mead or ciders quickly, to see if you want it carbonated or leave it still, and of course the people that really use those SodaStream machines a lot, would consider buying it, I think too
I'd definitely want this in the US market.
I think most people using it enough to worry about the cost of gas would have it on a benchtop or in a kitchen cupboard, so aesthetics and size/weight would be important and so it would probably be better just paying the cost of the sodastream gas, or messing around refilling the sodastream gas bottle off a bigger co2 bottle. Or as others have suggested, just using a carb cap on a normal bottle which is only a few bucks.
I'd personally prefer it if you kept your focus on what you've been doing with all the great beer stuff, or solving whatever supply chain/stock issues lead to long periods of items being out of stock. I understand its a tough gig and I appreciate what you do, but items out of stock seems to be the gripe for most of us.
Yes, I buy one
Love it
Cheers.
I would, but the wife wouldn’t have it on the bench. Maybe if I could have it in the brewery? It seems a much safer way than filling the small cylinder myself.
This is awesome.
PET bottle compatibility would be a 100% buy for me
Yes great idea
Looks great to me. Partner hates soda streams for some reason, but loves carbonated water. Already got a 6Kg co2 on the kegerator and a 2.6Kg in the room temp carbonation cupboard, so I'd buy one for sure!
Simple answer yes…that would be great. Would you sell the bottles too? With caps? I can see lots of possibilities…love the idea.
Anything is possible
Make an option or adapter for standard soda bottles, and add an adjustable CO2 regulator. I like my carbonated water to be way more carbonated than sodas usually.
Sounds like a good plan to me
I specifically came here looking for this product, so the answer is yes
Cool!
Hell yeah, i'm in!
I am in Sweden and would never buy an expensive bigger CO2-flask since refilling sodastream bottles is much cheaper. It is worth the inconvinance to change the sodastream bottle on the kegerator pretty often. There is an interesting question: why is refilling small bottles so cheap in Sweden and not in many other countries?
The larger bottles are very cheap to both buy new and get refilled and there are plenty of refill depots around - I get 3.5kg CO2 gas cylinder refill for about $25-30 AUD. Typically the empty small SS bottles are swapped at supermarkets for a full one and SS sets the price for doing that and costs about the same as refilling the larger cylinder. My guess is the smaller bottles are a hassle to refill and only hold a small amount of gas so are more expensive.
You guys have cheap CO2 and cold weather. We have expensive CO2 and awesome beaches. Swings and roundabouts :)
If this was using regular soda bottle threads, and dont have to shake them like when using the ball lock carbonation cap, that would be awesome
absolutely
Yes I would buy it, I have the hose attachment very economical, and with this new device, there is no more hole drilling in the benchtop, which pleases the wife no end
Yes I want one.
Just found this channel , awesome ideas ! Love the innovation Keep them coming
yes, I would buy one in.a heartbeat if you decided to move forward with it.
The wife and I burn through 2 sodastream cannisters a month, we'd pay anything for that kit.
What about stability... if the big cylinder gets knocked over on kitchn bench, it could do a lot of damage to bench or worse if it falls off bench and breaks off the tap!
True. Would take a bit of force though
What would be better is a hose that goes from the 2kg cylinder under the bench into where the normal soda stream cylinder screws into. Far less unsightly
We're looking at that too
I’m very interested in seeing how one of these would go in the back of the car.
Great idea
Sell it for $120, include a hose to the tank as well as multiple adaptors for various bottle types
use the drink mate version so you can carbonate mixed beverages soda stream is old thechnology if you want the future use drink mate...
Sick idea. Approved!
Thanks for the feedback!
This limits you to the Sodastream water only situation. You should make this thing feed a hose to a ball-lock/carbonation cap and give it a pressure gauge.
that is a fair point. we will look into this too.
Yes please i have had no luck with connecting soda stream bottle to a cylinder.
It would be sweet to connecct it with a hose, so you can have this connected on the keezer, or place co2 bottle under the desk, and have only filler above the counter.
They sell those hoses in two lengths. I have already bought one and they’re brilliant!
How do i get one. Looks awesome. Definitely would like one for sure. Are they available now? They look fine as is.
Not yet available, sorry.
I don't think so. It's just like a massive soda syphon. Better to have to hose connecting to an attractive benchtop dispenser, in my opinion 👍
Counter space would probably be close to the same with the housing of the sodastream…I’d certainly consider it. Since ours is in a pantry; aesthetics is a non-issue.
I think most people would find the large bottle a bit ugly on a kitchen top, maybe if something enclosed the cylinder
I'm in. Fill me up Scotty!
Can you run a line to it or do you need to attach directly to a cylinder
Do a hose so you can hide the cylinder and have wall mount for the thingy.
Yes I brilliant idea
Keep the good work up
Yep
Yep. Take my money
Make the cover into a side table for the couch