Was looking up David Jones Singing Teacher and this came up. Don’t understand any of the above dislikes. Ignore those people because they offer no constructive debate. This is a great masterclass, with really great work from teacher and pupil (and pianist), but unfortunately we must always be aware that if you put anything online it may well get irrational responses from people. Why? Deconstructive negative people like to shout, that’s why. Best wishes to you and your singing.
Yeah, I have no idea why this is so disliked. But I left it up, even though it doesn't reflect my voice accurately today, because I hope it will be helpful so some other young singer looking to learn!
@Bel Canto Try out his ideas. They work for many. Very good masterclass. You might be interested to know that many teachers have taught who weren't specifically singers. The Godfather of it all: Manuel Garcia II being a good point. Also, Joseph Hislop was taught by a throat surgeon who loved opera. Cotogni's pupils: Rosati and Ricci were pianists. Richard Miller was primarily a teacher over singer. Ettore Campogalliani had the "voice of a crow" according to Furlanetto. I agree David Jones doesn't sound amazing in his demonstrations, but does he need to as long as it brings about the right affect? And I would say it has in this masterclass. It is excellent and thought-provoking from my thinking and feelings (are only true guides at the end of the day).
Think how many conductors in history also weren't singers but worked really well with singers. That's the point. You can encourage the right qualities and understand the mechanics without necessarily doing. I agree it seems difficult to see (I struggle with that thinking also as I believe people who can also do it more), but I believe that I don't know everything and it's possible others may be right.
@Bel Canto have you watched this video? You'll find some are his observations of live experiences also. I will say, however, that he doesn't talk about the text and its relationship with the music (or singing technique that aids that connection). I find that unsettling, but on a purely technical level, I like what he says and quotes, and it matches up with what a lot of other people have said.
@Bel Canto I see. You appear to have a done a u-turn. I'm glad you see the value in D Jones. It's better people share than they don't, right? I used to not like him by the way. But I see the value in what he says now, at least.
Explain this jaw back please. Goes against everything I feel. I had an online brief chat with David once and have studied his method (with respect there’s nothing new in anything he says) except pull the jaw back. It’s not entirely possible without creating tension in both jaw and tongue abs I don’t feel or hear any benefit so I’m obviously misunderstanding?
Hi! I've watched some other videos of David teaching and see some of his posts on Facebook. I believe the "jaw back" is an invitation to lengthen the neck, which will allow and maintain a more open pharynx. So it's not actually isolating the jaw to be pushed back but the whole head and neck not moving forward, especially on high notes (which closes the pharynx and raises the larynx). When your head is thrusting forward and your neck is shortened, your jaw goes with it most of the time. Hope this helps!
Wow!!
Wow, I think his solutions are spot on! You sound better instantly! Well done.
Wow!!! Beautiful in every way.
Beautiful singing, and amazing teaching.
So great to see him work. I only know him for his book and articles.
BRAVISSIMA! Great work.
Was looking up David Jones Singing Teacher and this came up. Don’t understand any of the above dislikes. Ignore those people because they offer no constructive debate. This is a great masterclass, with really great work from teacher and pupil (and pianist), but unfortunately we must always be aware that if you put anything online it may well get irrational responses from people. Why? Deconstructive negative people like to shout, that’s why. Best wishes to you and your singing.
Yeah, I have no idea why this is so disliked. But I left it up, even though it doesn't reflect my voice accurately today, because I hope it will be helpful so some other young singer looking to learn!
@Bel Canto Try out his ideas. They work for many. Very good masterclass. You might be interested to know that many teachers have taught who weren't specifically singers. The Godfather of it all: Manuel Garcia II being a good point. Also, Joseph Hislop was taught by a throat surgeon who loved opera. Cotogni's pupils: Rosati and Ricci were pianists. Richard Miller was primarily a teacher over singer. Ettore Campogalliani had the "voice of a crow" according to Furlanetto. I agree David Jones doesn't sound amazing in his demonstrations, but does he need to as long as it brings about the right affect? And I would say it has in this masterclass. It is excellent and thought-provoking from my thinking and feelings (are only true guides at the end of the day).
Think how many conductors in history also weren't singers but worked really well with singers. That's the point. You can encourage the right qualities and understand the mechanics without necessarily doing. I agree it seems difficult to see (I struggle with that thinking also as I believe people who can also do it more), but I believe that I don't know everything and it's possible others may be right.
@Bel Canto have you watched this video? You'll find some are his observations of live experiences also. I will say, however, that he doesn't talk about the text and its relationship with the music (or singing technique that aids that connection). I find that unsettling, but on a purely technical level, I like what he says and quotes, and it matches up with what a lot of other people have said.
@Bel Canto I see. You appear to have a done a u-turn. I'm glad you see the value in D Jones. It's better people share than they don't, right? I used to not like him by the way. But I see the value in what he says now, at least.
David is scooping 11:25 mark? Why?
Explain this jaw back please. Goes against everything I feel. I had an online brief chat with David once and have studied his method (with respect there’s nothing new in anything he says) except pull the jaw back. It’s not entirely possible without creating tension in both jaw and tongue abs I don’t feel or hear any benefit so I’m obviously misunderstanding?
Hi! I've watched some other videos of David teaching and see some of his posts on Facebook. I believe the "jaw back" is an invitation to lengthen the neck, which will allow and maintain a more open pharynx. So it's not actually isolating the jaw to be pushed back but the whole head and neck not moving forward, especially on high notes (which closes the pharynx and raises the larynx). When your head is thrusting forward and your neck is shortened, your jaw goes with it most of the time. Hope this helps!
He speaks absolute nonsense.