New Logic Pro 11 is Better than FL and Ableton? (First Impressions)
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Remember guys, don't update without backing up your original Logic 10 - Most Apple updates nearly always break third party plugins
Solid advice for sure!!!
How can I do that ?
@@charleysilva7704open finder. Go to apps. Find logic. Right click. Compress file. You got a back up
How do I backup
Legit happened to me. My logic is ruined now
No gui change just cool features
Love it
We learned with logic at school might switch to it next year
So did i, im still using it 7 years later
@@reflekta_music it's a cool daw I learned a lot from it
My only fault is I don't have a Mac at the moment
If some of you guys had started out recording on reel to reel and a mixer with a very basic spring reverb…..you would be super happy to have any modern DAW. I guess you don’t miss what you never had……but the stuff I learned on reel to reel I still use in Logic. Everything else to me is like a bonus. Hell I remember the first drum machines a sequencers……just enjoy the great choices you have today!
With the keyboard session player, i believe the keys/chords it generates is based on the key you set your session to.
Makes so much sense but didn’t think of that 😂
The features are so crazy i really love it
Needed to hear this. Now gonna check em out
Music production has been evolving since the beginning. I can only imagine the uproar when all of a sudden multi-track recording came out. Changed the game. Instead of complaining, embrace the change and use it to your advantage. You could spend your time complaining or making music. Your choice.
Multitrack expanded the objectively limited tools. But it was a tool for the artist who still operated and created manually from the heart. If your comment was you shadowboxing nobody in particular regarding AI, the key critique of AI in songwriting specifically is that it’s less a tool and more a development that strikes at the heart of something so personal to the artist.
Thank you for the video it is really informative on what the new features are on logic 11.
all we need now is for sounds to play from the file browser whilst the melody is playing...
Lol word
This was the one thing I wanted from the new update
We need ghost notes as well
is it just me or is it only some sounds that will play in the file browser when you click them? others i have to drag it into a sampler or on the timeline to hear it.
@@kb7013 you can get them if you select both tracks at once
If you use the chord track, then have the session players follow the chord track, you can pick and change or customize all the chords
casually pulls up my two fav songs. im so ready to use the stem bro
Some of the functionality you mentioned were from the previous update (mastering, creating new track), but thanks for the great content!
In logic you can have it change the project tempo automatically based on an audio file, you just need to change the tempo setting to ‘Adapt Tempo’. Then drag an audio file in and it gives the option to analyse it and change the project to the average tempo
It doesn't work in a way he was talking about. What about a big project and then dragging new loop with another bpm information? You must do this manually with stretching to adjust the tempo of the sample to the tempo of the project ;)
Nice, thanks for posting.
Thanks so much for sharing what you've learned, and super dope remix of a true beach house classic :') ! Would love to learn what you get out of updated Live Loops. Also, as I have a macbook with intel silicon, it appears that the stem splitter feature only works for apple silicon. Hope apple provides an update for this someday. Thanks again!
Ocean mah guy, great video! get a popfilter on that mic tho, those plosives are gettin´real heavy
real shit
The bass player is actually what I’m most excited about cause I tend to lean towards a live bass sound with my production.. haven’t updated yet to Check it out
You can make it to where all samples Match the protect in smart tempo protect settings, go to set import files to and select ether beat or beat and bar
I have an M2 processor, I had to change to Rossetta in order for my WAVS and NI plug-ins to work properly. Kinda worried about that now I've turned it off.
Awesome. Can't wait to try it out! Though the mixing and mastering process still needs an overhaul
In what way? Out of interest. I personally love mixing in logic
And with the Sade, mans got exquisite taste.
btw ocean. u can drag an audio file in and get it the right BPM. When you set BPM, go to custom menu and then it will say KEEP TEMPO, click on that then put align new audio tracks to beats and bar
Hard bro 💥
I tried producing in FL some years ago and left that hobby. Yesterday I randomly watches an FL Studio 11 Update Video + iPad App and I was like duude this is good. Even the iPad Version
Can Logic "punch in" audio (while playing along) and have it loop record? Every time I try... it stops recording on the next loop. Thanks
New studio bass is a great addition, however got some bugs aswell now with marquee tool and audio recordings.
Thank you ❤
Its good to see! Really reminds me of FL though.. stemsplitting, Master and so on..its ai the New wave i guess
There’s a setting you can change that will put your samples in time when you drag loops in!
Yall stop fighting, no matter what yall say but each daw have their own characteristics... FL cam be used for both production and mixing mastering but people usually use fl for beat manking later they take stems and mix master in other daws.. i usually produce in FL and Mix in Studio1 and master back in FL.... according to my preference.. same for yall it might be different.. #Peace ❤
Finally the fixed the finder, I started making drums from scratch the old finder was so annoying
What are you talking about ! sample browser is still a disaster! Apple is introducing new AI products and they can't make a good sample browser, for example in Ableton or FL studio... people have been waiting for it for years...
They make stuff that can be used on the iPad, because Logic for iPad is subscription based, while logic for Mac is a one-time purchase. Was the same for the last update (Sample Alchemy, Beat Breaker, all made thinking of iPad users; they're amazing though).
I don’t like auto time stretching in Ableton. I wanted to Logic to ask on drop. That would be nice
On your last comment I think your wrong there is a option that’s been in logic for a while , you can drag a audio in to logic and will set the tempo for the project and not only that but if it has tempo changes it will do map that too
Still deciding to update it or not
I always wondered why some wav. files didn't play that's awsome that they fixed that. I wouldn't mind a ghost notes feature stilll LOL
Soooo good 👍🏽🥰
..its great, but i wish it had a chord track to extract chords like cubase and st1...regards
The stem splitter option is greyed out for me and not sure what Ocean meant by changing the Logic settings. Anyone help?
You have to change your Logic setting. Go to your applications folder > right click on Logic > click get info and then untick open with Rosetta
Does Logic have the drop down automation lanes like Ableton? That was like the one thing Logic was missing/sucked in comparision to Ableton.
Very Nice!
Bro can you make a video showcasing how you put these together? like the screen capture, audio routing, etc
For the keys change the key of your project at the top
WOW that's epic, logic has always been amazing
oh THAT STEM SPLITTER? GOLD.
Did they bring back midi preview
In order to make the audio auto snap to tempo. U have to change it to auto under tempo nd bpm counter. Then it will snap automatically.
Great video as always. My personal opinion is that I hate that Apple forces everyone that doesn't have the latest MacBooks/iMac's (M1 chips and beyond) to use buy new products in order to use these new features in the update. I have an MBP '19 i9 and wasn't able to use the new Stem Splitter and ChromaGlow features due to not having the new M1 chips. Aside from that, there's nothing really "new" to the UI and Apple has failed to update and add anything new for the DAW itself. Still love Logic but I wish they'd listen to the community a bit more.
reading through all your comments here , do anyone here know how to solve the crashing problem? please help thank you
It sucks that these features aren't available unless you have an M1 Mac. I bought my MacBook in 2020 so I can't use the stem splitting or chroma glow plugin.
You can try serato sample! It’s got an Inbuilt stem separator! But the upgrade to silicon chips is worth it hey. M1 Max and Pro’s are going slightly affordable price ranges out there and still get the job done nicely. You don’t need to go for the m2 it or 3 as yet.
Same with my iMac
It will work on the MacBook from 2020 but not the IPad
ill happily sound design in logic but how have they still not added scale highlighting. ill make music in ableton and fl but never logic.
..you can make logic act like ableton with loops...just go to smart tempo project settings...👍
How to change Rosetta or standard?? I’ve been trying to figure it out
Go to your applications folder > right click on Logic > click get info and then untick open with Rosetta
Never seen so
Much excitement out of someones eyes before
How to do groups? EG drum group, bass group etc?
Logic does find the tempo left click on the tempo and set it to auto detect that's it😉
Man that library bug was ickin me lol. The fact that now you can preview each one of your sounds/wavs is big for me
You can speed up yoiur workflow even more by pressing F to open and close the browser
What is a stem splita?
As a musician (as well as bedroom beat maker) I don’t like the principle of AI but that stem splinter is a game changer
I'm glad someone came out and said it. The DAW is better than both FL and Ableton. Now with that being said I would obviously use them all it's all apples and oranges now!
The fact you cant search for a plugin is wild to me
That is a great point, never thought about that
nice though i feel Image Line game them pressure🔥😆😆
As a logic user I don’t understand why everyone with FL says the piano roll sucks. And that’s what they usually lead with. Logic NEEDS GHOSTS NOTES. Super useful but for me that’s the only area where it’s slacking. What I do is select my track then select another region and now whatever other region I select displays in the piano roll.
Another thing logic needs is a pan knob in the piano roll so we can pan individual notes. Makes panning kicks go crazy without having to automate.
Hoping we get it soon
There also MIDI panning, slides, and note chopping.
@@kingofdjembe it just depends on what your style of beats are. I have no reason to pan midi, drums or anything… then slides it’s def faster but in logic you have to go to sampler and just raise your glide time. For note slicing I have my right click as the scissors tool. So I can highlight multiple notes and just slice away. I think it’s the lack of knowledge out there for logic that got a lot of people thinking it’s not good enough
If apple put more out updates on logic, there are some minor things pluigns search,
stems splitter is a game changer
Great video ocean,but like someone mentioned in the comments,i also heard you need the m 1 chip in your i mac or laptop,so once again apple are going F a lot of people up with this.its a shame,typicall apple out dating your machine when they feel like it.
This really isn’t that. They do definitively push people to upgrade. But in this situation the intel chips literally do not have the ai cores. Apple silicon has the Neural Engine cores built in. Intel just doesn’t have the actual hardware to do that. So this isn’t a situation where Apple is trying to do anything, the intel chips are just older tech.
@@ghost-user559 I see,thanks for your knowledge on this matter.i will make sure I look into this,thanks
@@joeford454 Yeah Apple does have a history of marketing to people a lot, but usually they are pretty good with how long they support things. iPads can get updated for 6 years, and you can use it for years after, same with iPhones. But they are skilled at making the new technology look good. M1 is really good, and you can get them for a good deal now used, but Intel is still very useful, and if that’s all a person has, its really good Apple is even still giving updates to older devices.
@@joeford454 I think a lot of it is actually Apple competition making these ideas more popular. Because ironically Apple products are supported longer than any other phone or tablet with updates. But they do market a lot, so it also does make people feel pressured to get the latest technology, so that part is true. So its not that Apple is actually any worse than any other company, and in fact they give updates longer than anyone else does, its just they market newer technology so often it can overwhelm people at times.
Ayyyy cheers for using master of none by beach house, fucking banger!!
Anyone else's logic crashing when you go to untagged loops now?
I hope they fixed the snap to grid issue (lol)
wow....Ableton needs to catch up and get us the STEM seperation tool...
I wished they would add ghost notes
Yeah yeah yeah
I’m going back to my frooty loops now
Cubase gang
Very cool features, although very ai esque. I think it depends on what music you’re creating. For hiphop I can see these updates are very nice to have.
Personally I’m sticking to live. The sheer amount of creative instruments are unmatched for me. Sure you can get similar plugins to recreate in other daws, but the same goes for ai enhanced plugins.
Who else recognised the sample from Trilogy?
On another note, the chord track has been in studio one for years and it’s waaaayyyy better.
Do more drill and trap
Wow this is so cool. Now all the work I put to learning music production in the past 4 years was for nothing and people with no experience can make industry grade songs. I love this.
Seen your reaction and had to react on it. Learning music production and theory is always your base. AI is such a power full tool, BUT the human being is even more power full. Remember: AI is created by the human, it didn't create itself.
@@boramautar5988 the music created by AI isn’t created by the human. I won’t get any recognition for the music AI made. It doesn’t matter what made AI, its effect is the same.
Why be salty you gained a new talent.
@@Noah-ns2txlol don't cry.
If this is your mentality, you're in the wrong hobby. Make music for fun, not for clicks
Say Goodbye to Creativity 😂 😂
shit's getting out of hand honestly, jesus..
Push a button and there’s your art
Its optional bro...if u dont wanna go that route u dont have to.
People said the same when 9th Wonder made beats on computers
creativity, which none of us can define, is overrated. familiarity is so important, that being creative is more of a dream than a real goal or actual possibility. even if you are creative, creativity without relevance is a moot point and relevance is subjective! so is creativity! you can't get rid of it, you can't make it show up, it's always here and never around!
Fl studio would always be the best for production there a reason it the most use
There is no “better” DAW. Only better for you personally. How you like to work and what you are making isn’t the same as the next person. How you work and your personal tendencies will lead you to a particular DAW or DAWs.
I started with logic but I made the switch you fl about 2 years ago. FL is better. It’s just simple. So simple that all you have to do is hover over things you don’t understand and it’ll tell you about it at the top automatically. Vs logic, you’re just stuck or have to go to CZcams. Fl studio makes the work flow smooth as water.
стиль 🗿
I like your СТИЛЬ =)
The only thing that I dislike about fl is that I have open many Windows to fix one thing
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Logic Gang! We finally get stem separation and it’s the best out now😄
MPC Stems are the best so far I tried them all
@@dayta120im a MPC guy as well, it was the best until now. I’ll be doing a comparison video real soon
@@headdrumzmusic lol ok you will see
@@headdrumzmusic logic does it like serato sample and they sound the same
@@dayta120 I got RIPX, haven’t tried sertato myself. I’ll be fair and test a few different songs
Seeing How None of Those DAWS Run Off The Available Cores That Creates Efficiency When Running A Multitrack Recording Method, So I Say CUBASE AND REASON Still Owns ALL.
Better never update to a .0 version, I just had to downgrade again to 10.8.5 because Rosetta plugins won’t work anymore and the new version 11 is very very unstable 😅
The midi routing is a big deal (instrument in /out)
Fruity loops 4 life !!!!
СТИЛЬ ❤
Anyone can nitpick little features and bits and pieces that other DAWS do better. But as a total package with all the plugins, VSTs etc that come stock AND the free updates which are pretty much whole new programs….logic is unmatched.
Good features
im worring about you guys, this not a major update you know like fl it has this features before like 3 to 4 month i guess and last was crazy you just wondering for playing sound fast from your pack soon
Fl didn’t add a fantastic drum machine and sampler? FL doesn’t come with a free Loops Sampler library at the scale of Logic, and it doesn’t come with Alchemy, which is like having a free Omnisphere. I mean Logic has added some crazy things recently as well, they just needed to catch up on this. Same as all Daws really. Every Daw lags somewhere and exceeds another in some other thing. Fl does what it does well, but it can’t compare for an orchestra or a live band, or scoring a movie, and Logic has features for all that and more.
i don't think the DAW matters. You can make music with just a few sounds.
welp time to get a new mac as i type this on my 2000 dollar PC
not until they introduce scale lock
DO NOT UPGRADE IF YOU ARE ON VENTURA. The software crushes countless times (enable auto-saved!!!), first restart with Rosetta on will not open Logic due to some cache issue/reset and the worst of nightmare is saving a project and closing it... then happily re-open that to keep working on it and routing, sampler with sample and consequently your track orders/arrangement (not regions arrangement luckily) WILL BE GO TO S**T. I just spent 30 minutes to fix my 1st project made on the 11th version of Logic. Maybe on Sonoma this does not happen, you guys let me know, I might consider upgrading the OS.
And thank God I backup Time Machine after every session..
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