Did The Soviets Build A Better Space Shuttle? The Buran Story
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On November 15, 1988, the world learned that the Soviet Union also had their own space shuttle. It had been secretly under development for well over a decade and it had cost the Soviets billions to build it. Several of the spacecraft were in various stages of construction. But the Soviet shuttle, named the Buran, would only ever launch once. Its development had largely been driven by the need to respond to the perceived military potential of the NASA Space Shuttle.
When the Buran was first launched, the world speculated that it would be used to build Soviet space stations or even assemble spacecraft for a manned mars mission. But as the Soviet Union began to collapse, funding for the Buran program was limited and eventually eliminated.
There’s no denying that the Buran looks very similar to the Space Shuttle. But in many ways, the Buran was quite different from the NASA Space Shuttle. The Buran orbiter didn’t have integrated main engines. Almost all of its lifting power was provided by a separate super-heavy rocket called Energia, which consisted of a core stage and 4 liquid-fueled boosters. Unlike the Space shuttle, which was a single system, the Buran orbiter, and its lifting rockets were actually two separate systems.
While the Shuttle, with its integrated engines, was more reusable, in practice, it required intensive maintenance between launches, which offset a lot of this advantage. But once in space, the Space Shuttle’s integrated engines no longer served a purpose. So, for most of the Shuttle’s mission, it was forced to haul around thousands of pounds of dead weight. Without integrated engines, the Buran could carry slightly more payload than the American Space Shuttle. But the Energia rocket could launch by itself, without the Buran attached. That meant it could carry external payloads into space, and could launch an astounding 100 tons. From the outset, the Buran was also capable of fully automated flight, meaning it could be launched, put into orbit and returned back to earth without any crew on board.
In the final days of the Soviet Union, when it was clear that the American shuttle had no meaningful military potential, the Soviet military no longer wanted anything to do with the Buran. The Soviet space community was left with a spacecraft that was expensive, complex, and largely without a real purpose. #Buran #SpaceRace #Spaceships #SovietSpaceProgram
Further Research:
We highly recommend the book ‘Energiya-Buran: The Soviet Space Shuttle’ by Bart Hendrickx and Bert Vis. The book was an extremely useful resource in researching this video. You will not find a more detailed or comprehensive look on the Buran program, covering everything from the program’s conception to its legacy:
www.springer.com/gp/book/97803...
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Thanks for watching! Just wanted to note a correction at 5:32 in the video. I refer to the Space Shuttle's Solid Rocket Boosters as 'expendable' when I should have said 'reusable'.
Thanks for these awesome videos!!!
Mustard did you make the end animation yourself?
Love the vintage computers. A very nice touch. Well done, Mustard!
I am so impressed of Buran's improvement over the American Space Shuttle. Even though Buran was abandoned, it's legacy survived with the rocket Energia continued to serve and its airborne carrier An-225 switched to extra large commercial cargo.
Nice video Mustard, I hope you get many more subscribers and followers, and make many more videos in the future
The way automatic landing happened was a big surprise for a ground control and they even considered to shot down Buran when it went off course... But it turned out autopilot just picked a more optimal route because of weather conditions. Even the engineers who build it were impressed.
@@user-ty4xt8rw5b Thank you for that link, it was great educational video Buran Shuttle Control Systems and program.
Because "capital" did not hold back engineering! - complete freedom of "thought" - the whole country and factories worked for you ...
And now.... forgive us! We were naive. THIVES seized our power in the country
Спейс-шатл тоже имеет такую систему. Но с экипажем её контролирует человек на месте. И только контролирует!
The engineers probably went: "Motherland proud!"
@@user-cj8ww8ph5c, почему русскоязычное сообщество так напирает на систему автоматической посадки? Я понимаю, что в 1937, когда самолет сел без какого-либо участия людей, это казалось чудом. Но в 1960е, во времена цифровой техники и лазеров, это было комплексной задачей, но не чудом. Насколько мне известно, впервые коммерческий борт совершил такую посадку в 1965 году, что говорит о том, что вояки в систему верили.
I feel sad for Buran :( That poor thing should be in a museum.
A german museum has one I think
@CharlieRobloxKerbal Super Secret Squirrel
@CharlieRobloxKerbal that's what you have to say, just like the Glomar Explorer was just a deep water drill.
@CharlieRobloxKerbal Or maybe just what it actually means. I guess it's just a joke about the first two letters.
you may look at it here
czcams.com/video/nfOFFn7y84M/video.html
"Buran Energia" sounds more baddass for a name than a simple "Space Shuttle"
Means "Blizzard Energy", shuttle sounds like the light rail at an airport.
@@natureandphysics403 wot
Mheh , indeed the Soviets named it, USA just called it by what its for, "Space Shuttle"
@@ckdigitaltheqof6th210 it's actually disgusting how supportive people are over a country
@@aureusknighstar2195 Are you stupid or yest? This is russian, what should they have called in English?
buran was sad, but energia is an outright tragedy. 100 tons back in the 80s.... imagine where we might have been now
yes, an excellent rocket
Fingers crossed, hopefully Starship works and we get another Mustard video on it.
if ussr never collapsed and were are peace with rest of world, today we would be in mars and probably even further...
There were even plans for a version with 8 boosters called 'Vulkan' that could carry 200 tons. It would have been a huge step towards moon colonization and flights to Mars
@@NostalgicMem0ries
There's still China
"Let's build it!"
*It's the best space technology of our century!*
"Nice, now scrap it
Its too expensive"
It was expensive then, in the 80s.
Especially for the Soviet Union, because no one helped them in the development. Nasa worked with all the institutions of Europe, the United States had great support in this regard.
The Soviet Union at that time simply did not have the necessary base for creating such a complex apparatus as a shuttle.
And the Soviet Union had to do everything from scratch in 10 years. To create a supermassive launch vehicle for the Buran, to develop the Buran itself.
This is a huge titanic work of engineers, builders, scientists. For 10 years they have done better than the United States.
Now all this would cost several times cheaper. But as the shuttle program in the USA has shown, this is a pointless idea for modern tasks.
@@wowa3520 Just imagine a joined US-Soviet space agency. If it was real, would you think the Russian Federation would continue the joint operation or will the alliance collapse?
Just Imagine, a US-Soviet flag on Mars/Orbital Space Station around Venus.
The Soviet Union was short of cash due to crop failures, the collapse of oil prices, and environmental disasters like Chernobyl.
The US was in a similar situation when they scrapped or displayed never flown Saturn V rockets because of Great Society (Medicare, Medicaid, et al), Vietnam, and the Energy Crisis.
NASA had this idea. When the Space Shuttle program were finishing in 2010s, there was an idea to rebuild Buran.
If we are ever going to get anywhere we need to stop doing that
I know this is an old video, but I had to point out how there was no mention of the AN-225 being designed to carry the Buran.
Fortunately there is a separate video by Mustard on Antonov-225
He has a whole video on it.
Imagine being a cosmonaut stuck on Mir with no way back, asking for help, and you suddenly see a gigantic bus with wings approaching you
This happened with Salyut 5. Although the cosmonauts were not stranded. There is a very good Russian movie ironically titled "Salyut 5" that was extremely entertaining.
It never happens. Mir and ISS always had/have enough Soyuzes attached.
@@sbelobaba Until the year 2022 (damn the -20's are sucky) lead to probable micro meteorites damaging the external structure of Soyuze attached. Prolonging the stay of Astronauts and Cosmonauts. I know that was like the worst news ever , sorry you get to stay up on the space station for few more months doing cool space stuff.... Ground control has some bad news for you, you get stay up in space for few more months, now go science the shit out of more stuff.
@@ablemagawitch This is actually the second such case. The first one was during the USSR. As far as I remember Soyuz was also damaged being attached to Salyut. Back then for some time Soviet cosmonauts were marooned and couldn't return from the space station and they were waiting for a new Soyuz be sent up there to rescue them.
@@ablemagawitch Soyuz 34 was a 1979 Soviet uncrewed space flight to the Salyut 6 space station. It was sent to supply the resident crew a reliable return vehicle after the previous flight, Soyuz 33, suffered an engine failure.
Actually Soyuz 32 wasn't damaged. Due to failure of Soyuz 33, it stayed longer than necessay and was considered unreliable.
This is how safe by the book Soviet space agency played that times. That's why I always smile when I hear moonlandings fairy tales.
The Soyuz 32 was loaded with 130 kg of replaced instruments, processed materials, exposed film and other items with a total weight equal to that of the two cosmonauts. It safely landed after all.
RIP An-225 😢
Another part of the Buran program (and amazing piece of aerospace history) lost forever
It will be rebuit.
@@alanwatts8239 when Russians return to Kiev
@@EdikLevin as reparation work crews
@@EdikLevin so confident)) your motherland needs you, did you enlist yet?
@@samhamsord7942 For Russians it's a choice, in Ukraine it's forced
I love the retro green CRT style graphics!!
Having some fallout flashbacks rn
I'm having real life flashbacks with my mother's first PC.
me too! Rune, I immediately thought the same thing! Old school, my school, loved it too!
same
Reminds me of our green screen CRT Amdek monitor with our Columbia Data Products PC from 1984. It even shows the scan lines! Though the phosphor persistence was longer than in this video. ;) Nicely done though!
That outro though with the animated rocket launch and synthwave in the background
Braiden Robson 50 000 packets of mustard hehe
You obviously missed the 80s.
Growing up in USSR, I remember that thing being worshipped. My father was in the space program as an engineer, so I was interested in this stuff from a young age. I built a flying model of Buran and Energia, but never launched it, as I was afraid of crashing it. It had a mechanical 2-stage separation system using gas from parachute ejection charge in solid fuel motors. Energia would take the craft up about 100m, on 4x 10N of power, with Buran flaps set to compensate for the drag. Then 2x 3N Buran engines would ignite, taking the plane up a bit more and eject themselves, resetting flaps, shifting the center of balance forward, and letting it glide down from 200m. That's theoretically, of course. Since it was built before microcontrollers and ways to dynamically stabilize the aircraft, I'm sure it would've veered off course. Instead, it decorates a shelf as a piece of personal history in my father's old office. I remember the very first part my father cut out of a wooden rule, that became the wing cross-section, and the rest went from there. I built models of Soyuz rockets also, but those were factory kits. It's not the same thing, compared to studying "secret" blueprints and reverse engineering the Russian Space Shuttle.
Мы тоже это делали, в смысле сторую ступень. Тебе с папой повезло, а у нас была одна книжка на двор, и все интересовались. В других дворах было не так. В ней все и было написано, только забыл пропорции смеси - может помнишь?
You Sir , seem to know what you are talking. All the best 😊
It wasn't Buran that made me Sad, It was Energia. A Powerful beast stopped from going to the stars.
Soviet Russia's Buran was like space fighter jet and even can fly as unmanned fighter jet shuttle nothing have with this ...
Да, теперь наша космическая отрасль погрязла в коррупции. Правительство говорило что буран и энергия слишком дорогие проэкты и нет смысла их финансировать, но теперь, из за того что все деньги разворовываются и новое финансирование становится так же бесполезно, только теперь уже нет подобных проектов как и денег налогоплательщиков. (
@@grhddudh6801 Реальный повод сменить путинское правительство. Прошло слишком много времени с тех пор, как они тратят время на космическую отрасль.
@@doodleboi7034 а причем тут правительство, если страна находится в расцвете олигархического капитализма?
Там бак надо было тащить Мрией, которой теперь вообще нет. Да и сами баки ЮжМаш делал, если вы понимаете о чем я.. А вообще вся документация есть на Энергию, ток производств не осталось, которые нужные компоненты делали
For everyone still wondering where the Buran went to - you can visit it in a german museum situated in Speyer and I highly recommed doing so if you're nearby.
Also have a look on Google Earth at 55° 34’ 16”N, 38° 08’ 34”E.
Also you could see one of them in Moscow (VDNKH)
the Buran got destroyed when the hangar it was in collapsed. You saw a model, not an original one. There are only two others and they have never been finished.
It was a test vehicle indeed, en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OK-GLI . Still awesome to see probably:P.
Smoer1 One of the probably unfinished ones can be seen in that museum then. There is even a documentation about the transport of the Buran. Thanks for the input though, I'll look it up.
Wow! As a Russian i expected something like "evil russki-soviets made a big cheap shuttle ripoff but stupid as they are they never used it properly, wa-ha-ha". But i was more than pleasantly surprised with the logical explanations.
You, sir, gained another subscriber and maybe a fan!
Why do you expected that? I mean I'm a subscriber to a lot of documentary channels, many of them of American origin. Never did I come across a video which articulated such a message.
@@lonestarr1490 ah but us yankees talk like that all the time.. but.. maybe we americans are less likely to be so crassly boastful these days with our current political scene
Rest of world drinks vodka rises up in the middle of road next morning
On the other hand Russians drink vodka innovation
@@peabody3000 Just when they talk about the russian goverment
@@lonestarr1490 because we have a lot of propaganda, and many Russians believe that Americans hate us
It is tragic that Soviet engineering does not have the universal recognition it deserves.
M Be
N nppcnvl pc
I mean slave labour isnt very tasteful
Well everyone recognizes Chernobyl
@@michaelmargono thats what the US uses
@@barbarapitenthusiast7103 so did every other society at one point in time
Americans: declare star wars
Soviets: be paranoid about Space Shuttle
Hmm, I wonder why
Just because you are paranoid does not mean you are wrong.
Soviet buran nothing have with shuttle Soviet buran can fly without humans as robot buran was more like space fighter jet shuttle even not closer ....
The funny part is that USA panicked when they heard about the Buran too, thinking Soviets were now militarising space.
@@DrEtzor arms race...
@@user-jv7yx6nf6g wot
This is what the History Channel Lacks!!!
Shahjahan Masood Proper content
Ponyyish All because of one thing: Aliens
Ponyyish you mean they still have history on the History Channel I thought it was all reality TV.
Nah, they are too busy with more pressing matters, like Hitler and aliens. Do they even show anything else these days?
The history channel would probably talk about the Buran and show videos of a V-2 rocket or Il-78.
The space shuttle did do quite a few 'secret' missions, I thought it's main purpose was to get parts of the ISS in place.
And one of this 'secret' missions was about atmosferic diving above Moscow. Obvious training for bomb-shitting. Not training for brick-shitting of soviet government. Question about expensivness of Buran project didn't existed for USSR.
we just assumed the US was weaponizing space on the heels of the 'Star Wars;' programme during Reagan's era. Hey, since the 1940's the world stopped believing US publicity, the budget clearly pointed to classified ops and propaganda. Its interesting many theories about the US Space Program abound, but none about the USSR.
Space Shuttle Orbit was still predictable. The X-37 serves the purpose of showing up anywhere un-predicably. The fear that the Soviet Union had of the Shuttle is answered and true with the X-37 experiments and recon.
Apparently the Regan Admin was pretty open with each other behind closed doors that one of the main objectives of Star Wars was to spook the Soviet Union into spending a lot of money they couldn't really spare on a space arms race. Seems pretty win-win from their standpoint. Dole out a lot of pork to their military contractor buddies and turn the thumbscrews on the Soviets while they're at it. Getting any actually working hardware out of the process would just be a lucky bonus. Just goes to show how alien that kind of thinking was to Soviet leadership in those days that this in retrospect obvious head-fake worked so well on them.
@@agluebottle Of course, the publication of the US space program should have forced Russia to invest in this direction as well. However, it was not only this side intention that was followed by the USA. The investment had to be rewarded mainly in favor of its own program, which had to be justifiable even to the taxpayers. If a reusable space shuttle could transport material to and from the orbit, there is no need for too much intelligence to deduce what it can be used for. The Russians, though paranoid, deduced basically correctly - Reagan was very much in favor of space wars, to which the mood of publicity also contributed. The shuttle was a real and functional machine - it was not part of a normal disinformation war, like placing a UFO made of wood on a runway just before a flight of Russian infrared satellites flew, so that the Russians would bother and set up expensive UFO research institutes. After all, the consequences of this misinformation are still significant in the minds of Americans themselves. As for the Russian control systems of the time, they were competitive. The philosophy in Russia at the time was that everything must be controlled by cybernetics and the astronaut will only be a passenger. Not surprisingly, the Russian shuttle complied with this philosophy.
A unique masterpiece, not only the Energia and Buran itself, but even the autopilot, that upon return without any human intervention changed the pre-programmed landing path for a better one in the actual weather conditions...
if interested, here is a documentary (sorry that it is only in Russian but with subtitles) about the Buran control system
czcams.com/video/0kgMnZu9t4E/video.html
The forerunner of X-37 yes?
Do you know for how many years working autolanding systems had existed before Buran? Two decades at least.
buran was such a united creation, all around ussr part of it were made, here in Lithuania 200meters from my house in 80s in middle of microdistrict where hundreds of soviets apartements were , there was textile institute where thermal insulation panels were made for buran, other things made in russia, latvia, ukraine, kazakhstan etc etc. it was amazing achievements, sadly ussr collapsed and dreams died with it.
I think the Buran and with it many people hope in that project/spacecraft died, but the dream itself did not die. In Fact it inspires people to continue the dream, expanding on it.
america demolished it from inside.
As someone who normally has a slightly different perspective on everything USSR-related (born & raised in St Petersburg, Russia), I absolutely loved the video. Both production quality and the content itself are top notch. Please keep it up, you're doing amazing things.
I remember watching the Buran launch and landing live in a TV in storefront during DDR times. It was actually an important event enough to serve as a major topic in the Eastern bloc for a while.
Armchair Magpie ...I watched it from Dresden with Putin.
bist du Deutsche??
Illisil Nein, er sagte nur dass er die DDR erlebte. Wie springst du zu solche Schlussfolgerungen?
@@userseveneleven Wenige Leute ausserhalb Deutschland verstehen was DDR bedeutet. Deswegen habe ich meine Frage gestellt. Und wie weisst du dass er nicht Deutsch ist?
Illisil Gegensätzlich, gibt es eigentlich viele Leute außerhalb Deutschland, die die DDR bekannt sind. Außerdem war das sarkastisch gemeint, als ich schrieb, wie do auf solche Schlussfolgerung kommst. (Bin nach Amerika gezogen also ist mein deutsch nicht mehr so perfekt als es einmal war :p)
Mustard? MUSTARD: Multi-Use Space Transport And Recovery Device. The British name for our never-built spaceplane.
Awesome acronym. I wonder what KETCHUP could be? There just needs to be some hytech thing called ketchup so there will be ketchup and mustard
You guys are a little too creative for your own good
I was gonna like but it’s 69
Remember the time when the lipstick rocket which was a success but the government stopped the program?
@@lorefreak94 Kinetic Energy To Change Humanity's Unique Purpose. That's not a real thing, but if it does become real, there's a cool name for it.
The Buran is already visitable in a german Museum.
The City is called 'Speyer'.
Its in the local 'Technikmuseum'.
Thats a moddel
There was only one finished Buran, wich got desteoyed
The test fligth Buran is in moscow
The others where never finished
@@jesusramirezromo2037 I have to correct you, it wasn't a model but a prototype. It had a role similar to that of the Enterprise Shuttle in the US program.
@@GIHD His "codename" is OK-GLI.
It is full-size layout. Similar is placed in VDNKh (Moscow) and in Sochi. The real one was dead in Baykanoor's hangar. The second one called "Burya" now here to and Is the subject of controversy between Kazakhstan and Russia. And last one unfinished now have zadorozhniy for it's museum
I was in the first grade, I remember my class were taken outside our school in Leninsk (now Baykonur) to see the launch of this Buran. But it was completely cloudy, so we didn't see anything...
yes it was really cloudy... nothing to see///
Did your school take you out to that engineering marvel called Chernobyl?....anyway, the Soviet Union had a meltdown, now it no longer exist.
@@rgsxyz1105 Chernobyl is at a distance of 2500km from Baikonur...
@@eugeniodimilano Guy is just here to pathetically take cheap shots at any Russian that dares to comment.
@@rgsxyz1105 chillax dude. Russians were good at a lot of things.
imagine the progress that could have been made if the use and ussr worked together building rockets and space craft
imagine the progress we could have made if nikola tesla’s work extracting energy from the aether and over-unity machines as power sources had not been suppressed and allowed to come to market?
We wouldn’t be using primitive & inefficient controlled explosions to get into space!
TVOR - The Voice of Reason image not having the ability to make a elevator to Mt. Everest by 2025?
Daniel - the USA & Russia built the ISS with help from Other countries.
Mark Plott it was mostly Russia and the USA as the European space agency only sent astronauts and didn’t really develop its own rockets,and what I’m talking about is during the space race jfk and krushchev where planning on going to the moon together but with jfks death this idea died aswell, I’m talking about actual space exploration I u defat and that without that competition they have calmed down but still
together.. heh, ppl in most cases even cannot fuck together, with out any problem, and u wanna two countries to do something effectively together.. only war, may be.
This is such a (typically) brilliant effort by Mustard. If you're looking for the quieter side of the genius of this channel, look no further than 4:11, when we begin watching coverage of the first shuttle launch "on" a period-appropriate RUSSIAN television. That is an absolutely pitch-perfect touch, and if it hadn't been handled that way, nobody would have noticed its absence. Pure pride-of-craft afoot, there.
The Buran Energia was an incredible feat of engineering. As an engineer it's painful to know it never got to see the end of the production cycle.
It's "Enérgia", not "Energía".
Буран (pronunciation in the video is correct -- Boo-run, lol) means "blizzard" or "snowstorm". Энергия (Energia) means, obviously, "energy".
The wreckage of Buran you can see on a river barge at the end of the video is not the real one, it's a dummy, a model. It was restored, and now you can visit it as the Buran museum in Moscow's VVC (VDNKh). The one that actually made the flight was destroyed in an accident in the early 2000s.
My father was one of the military officers managing communication before the launch and during the flight. He spent a few days at work without leaving, it was madly intense launch.
When Buran was about to land, it suddenly changed the direction of flying and landed from another end of the landing strip. The automatic landing system correctly decided the wind direction will be more favorable this way :3 But that was a surprise for everyone.
I read that the flying one was destroyed when a hangar collapsed on it (I think two people died).
Thank you for providing some history on the Buran program. I have tremendous respect for the accomplishments of Russian engineers and scientists.
@@musicuniverse1356 Soviet*
Wait, there are videos on CZcams where people visit abandoned Buran near Baikonur spaceport
@@syaondri This is not a joke, on the ground, when they saw his maneuvers, they decided that there was a failure and wanted to shoot him down, but the pilot of the escort fighter waited a little and then it became clear that the automatics worked correctly. Buran by the way had its own visual programming language " Dragon"
My grandfather was one of the engineer working on Buran's engines. He was very passionate about it and very pissed off that the program didn't have a chance to become functional until his last days.
So this technology is still in archive or lost forever ?
Was he working on the RD-0120 or the RD-170? Because if it was the RD-170 versions and variants of it are still in use today!
@@topbadgun unpredictable
@@topbadgun It is quite expensive and complex. Americans have the documentation, bought it in the 90s but won't build it. Would be way too expensive. While Russians were selling it for a very reasonable price, would be a shame to not use.
I also suspect they can't be as reusable as Merlin engines in Falcon-9, even if more efficient.
@@noop9kGorby should have served life sentence, and Yeltsin decapitated.
Soviets were lowkey incredibly talented engineers.
Incredibly talented engineers, cursed with a regime that oh so often let their talents go to waste.
@@rockyblacksmith =D
Their spies that stole these technologies were the true geniuses.
@@johnp139 кто-то воспринял слова Клинтон о исключительной нации за правду.
@@oldwizard93 There is a large difference between lying about sleeping with someone, and stealing military designs.
I saw a Buran shuttle as a kid in a tech museum in Germany. I didn't knew back then that it wasn't American. It was very cool.
I think as with the Concorde they tried to get a US shuttle as well but there weren’t enough to go around.
Another interesting thing about the the Buran is it also spawned the creation of the world's largest cargo plane.
Wiseguy7 indeed, AN225 was build solely for the purpose of carrying “Buran” around. Btw “Buran” means “snowstorm” in russian.
fazz2810 Now Darude Snowstorm
@Jester Anicete Oh god not that song again....
You are killing it with the animations! Bravo!
And you know what the saddest part is? We left it in Kazakhstan, in a hangar on Baykonur, along with the ready for work Energiya. After the Union collapsed, it rusted away for a decade along with the hangar, until the roof collapsed and destroyed both.
Buran shows up to the space shuttle party.
Endeaver: There is a SPY among us...
Buran: *sweats in soviet*
Buran was the imposter
''Discovery was not the imposter''
*Buran troll faces
more than one, there had to be many to steal the plans for the shuttle
@@suzakule You forget that espionage works both ways. In fact, russian engineers had a monetary incentive to sell data, since they were under payed and lived in miserable conditions. So who´s to say how much of the Buran is american, or how much of the Shuttle is russian? One thing we know for a fact: the russians were ahead in the space race. They had the advantage in technology. So the assumption that they stole the shuttle plans and not the other way around is up for debate. But being good westerners, we like to think they are the bad guys, so they must have stolen from us, right? WRONG! There was a higher flux of information coming to us than going to them. Any man who has an interest in cold war espionage knows this. So unless someone can produce proper evidence that Buran is based on the Shuttle, and not the other way around, i think i´ll reserve my judgement. And so should you.
@@Biden_is_demented You are clearly in error... the US NASA The Space Shuttle program formally commenced in 1972.with Various shuttle concepts had been explored since the late 1960s
Where as the USSR Buran started in 1980.
it's blatantly obvious the USSR stole the plans.
Unless you are accusing NASA of using a time machine.
This may be my favorite channel on CZcams at the moment. There is so much work you put into these videos! Remember me when you reach 1 mil.
Watsure Exactly! Remember me as well ! Mustard you’ve got a great future !
The amount of effort, skill and time that goes into these videos is incredible, especially by CZcams standards. Although it probably doesn't mean all that much in relation to all the other comments being posted here, thanks. Thanks for letting me learn more about interesting topics, thanks for entertaining me, overall... Thanks for everything. Keep it up :).
Brikxar I agree love these videos
Here here!
We should also acknowledge the effort, skills and time invested by the engineers of Buran although their baby met an untimely end.
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Since we're talking about quality, the sound quality isn't at all up to scratch!
It is finally refreshing to see a big CZcamsr acknowledging the different technologies used by the Buran and its enhanced capabilities, instead of just calling it a "Shuttlesky Copy". However, I must highly disagree that "The USSR was stuck with an unwanted shuttle". I really want to point out that the USSR had 2 more improved Buran-Like Shuttle Designs under Construction, improved due to feedback from Buran testing & flight. These 2 Buran-Like Shuttles are:
- Ptichka 1.02 (which was 97% complete, but was cancelled in 1993 because of the Collapse of the USSR and the Dreadful economic 1990s of Russia.
- Orbiter 2.01 (or simply 2.01 - it was never officially named, was 30% - 50% completed, also to have been an improved version of the Buran.
Both Air Frames still exist today, deteriorating over time and no maintenance, unlike the Buran itself that was unfortunately destroyed in a 1999 Crane Accident. The Soviet Union have planned plenty of flights with these Buran-Like Shuttles throughout the 1990s.However;
I must also disagree with "The USSR building them in response to Paranoia of a Military US Space Shuttle" (though definitely as a response to the US Shuttle, just not a "Military" Response. The USSR already had the Mir Space Station (which the Buran briefly docked with), were going to use all 3 Buran-like Shuttles to dock with Mir, and use them for construction of Mir-2, while the US was going to use the Space Shuttle to construct "Freedom Station", and the Soviets knew that.
After the fall of the USSR, and the very tragic end to the Buran, Ptichka, and Orbiter 2.01, it was an end to a potential new Space Era. Due to the Soviet Collapse, Russia had a Frozen Economy in the 1990s, and couldn't fund any of these projects, but it did already have some Mir-2 Modules ready, while Mir-1 was purposely burned up into the Earths Atmosphere. It is at this point, that the US and Russia agreed to combine their "Mir-2 & Freedom Station" Projects, into the International Space Station, which started out as just Russia & America, but grew to accept most countries, and became what we know it as today, the most expensive project undertaken by the world combined in history (while the Buran Program was the most expensive Soviet Project).
As a final note, I really wish you would've mentioned that the Soviets specifically created the Antonov An-225 Mriya, the largest Aircraft in the world (until it was sadly destroyed in the Ukraine War), for easy transportation of the Buran and Buran-like Shuttles.
Today, we could have been in a different space era if the Buran Program never died. As an example, China requested to be a participant for the ISS, but was declined, and thus, ended up designing, and eventually, launching & constructing its own Space Station Habitat, called the Tiangong Space Station, and built very similarly to how Mir-1 was built.
It is SO SAD, all that effort, work, organization, planning, near completion of another aircraft, the permanent damage, only had 1 unmanned flight, never to ever have a crewed flight.
Can I just say what an amazing experience it was to watch a clip of a space shuttle launch in *HD color* on a white Soviet-era TV? More brilliant creativity, Mustard! Soviet products sure had a curiously whimsical character to them...
I literally dropped everything I was doing as soon as I noticed there was a new mustard video on my feed!
Caio Ronnau I stopped working just for this vid. WURF!
7:47 what a perfect landing, and without a pilot on board. With less powerful electronics than what we all have in our pockets now.
Krazykov I love the aero breaking down the runway, really is a thing of beauty
what about a 747 airplane.
@@Cybernaut551 eh
radio controlled model airplanes don't have "pilots on board" either. They make perfect landings too, just on a smaller scale. Go to your nearest model airpark to check it out, some are even jets!! Very cool, but some are too expensive for average guy to afford. Grown men cry when they crash :D
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The O-rings on America’s SRBs were a continual problem (especially through the winter months) and from what I understand it was a problem known from almost the beginning of the shuttle program. Here the Soviets had that issue figured out plus they increased the payload capacity of the shuttle. I wonder if they fixed the foam insulation problem that would ultimately kill the Columbia crew.
The sad thing is that the shuttle didn't need to have SRBs. The shuttle was supposed to have liquid fuel boosters, but then politicians got involved.
ICBM defense contractors wanted a part in the project, for the only reason so they could get a government contract and make money. They lobbied (bribed) politicians to make them change the original plans to include SRBs, even considering the dangers of SRBs they decided to ditch the liquid fuel boosters and go with the worst option.
7 astronauts died because this blatent corruption from politicians who only cared about getting rich. Even after the avoidable disaster, NASA never switched to SRBs.
The sad thing was that even when the investigation began into the Challenger disaster, no news media outlet ever asked "why the f@#k did this thing have SRBs?"
point is that Energia (as we call her, part C - central) is the rocket. With all structural parts - frame and stiffeners able to withstand vertical and longitudal forces(actually, the scheme was very close to P-7: 4 side A-blocks provided 4 pivotal points at top with axial longitudal bearings at bottom, which prevented main part from compression and deformation). So all the tanks (LOX at top, LHg at bottom) were actually inside its body. And the most of the insulation was inside too. The main part of insulation was a polyurethane foam and special ablator coverage prevented from icing for the duration of atmospheric flight. This is totally different approach - we have "classical" rocket which delivers its payload to the heights of approx. 140-150 km depending on payloads, where main Buran's engines ignite and separation is performed. If You're interested in, there is great book of Boris Ivanovich Gubanov, chief engeneer of Energia called "Triumph and tragedy of Energia". As i know, it was translated. Some parts are availabe at www.buran.ru/htm/15-3.htm and www.buran.ru/htm/08-3.htm - You might try google it. Or ask for help, i ll try to explain details.
If you can save billions by STEALING TECHNOLOGIES that leaves a lot more money to improve on the Technologies.
@@johnp139 been awhile since I watched this video, but I’m pretty sure this technology was in the public domain.
As I've gotten older I also have increasing problems with my O ring integrity.
Есть классные журналы ссср: "Наука и Жизнь" и особенно "Техника молодёжи" с богатыми футуристическими иллюстрациями. Жаль если эти идеи пропадут, но если их увидит широкая публика у этих концептов будет новая жизнь
ok
The more I learn the more I realize how damn advanced the USSR really was, that it isn’t just movies and propaganda but legitimate.
For once bad managment ruins everything!
Well yes and no. It was a lot about propaganda actually. They focused on what would make them look good, and mostly ignored the rest. And even then, their space program was a mess. USSR had as much brain power as the US or Europe, but they had little budget to work with, and compensated by cutting corners. Imo they started doing interesting stuff, like MIR, when they stopped trying to compete directly with the US.
And by the way, the Buran was built with stolen shuttle plans.
90 percent of their technology was stolen and/or reverse engineered
Their blindr bomber was a reverse engineering of the B1 bomber, thirty backfire naval fighter bomber was reverse engineered from the F111. The might 29 was reverse engineered from either the F15 or F 14. Their MI 28 Havoc attack helicopter was reverse engineering from the AH 64,
@@johntucker6326 F 15 was reverse engineered from MIG-25 check it out )))
The last 40 seconds were 100% unnecessary and I 100% loved it.
10min videos buddy.. They all need to hit that 10min mark somehow!
Nice video man. Keep it up
And that was probably the most creative way I've seen a creator do it, instead of just padding it with nonsense, ads, or blank space.
Who knows, in the future we might actually need all that Mustard in space.
At which point, well the CGI has already been made.
i loved the 90's outtro.
Loved it!
"Ivan we made the space shuttle better!"
"I knew we could do it!"
"We also ran out of money, Ivan."
"Oh."
Мы слишком увлеклись когда строили шаттл и забыли что у нас разваливается страна)
I’ve watched this video several times and I still find it fascinating! Your content is awesome and educational! Please keep telling us about these engineering jewels 🔥🔥🔎
One of the most high quality channels I've seen on CZcams. Great work!
TF BA I couldn't agree more, amazing!
What's incredible for the Buran, it's first flight was completely unmanned. That thing is a drone!!
Just about every spacecraft ever made, going all the way back to Vostok and Mercury Redstone in 1961 had a completely unmanned first flight....
Should have mentioned Energia-2 Buran. Already in the design stage of Energia-Buran, Soviets engineers planned on making the entire system fully reusable, Energia being just a stepping stone to Energia-2 which was to be the main heavy lifter in the coming decades (1990's onward).
Energia itself was as powerful as Saturn V, meaning it could launch a Lunar manned mission. It's reusability did not include the requirement for a powered landing like SpaceX boosters do, but glide landing, meaning the entirety of fuel could be used to lift things into orbit. All 4 boosters plus the central heavy booster were to glide down in a similar way that Buran itself did and could land anywhere with a landing strip.
And due to the low maintenance requirement of the system, it's turnaround time would be very short.
So even if initial cost of construction might have been a bit high compared to single use rockets, the end system that was planned was to be the workhorse that would ensure Soviet domination in space for decades to come. Energia-2 would, like Energia, be an independent super-heavy lifter that could facilitate orbital construction and, being fully reusable, be even cheaper to operate than SpaceX rockets 30+ years later (simply because they did not require fuel to be saved for landing, meaning more fuel is used to lift in the first place).
And the system being fully automated already in the 1980's, flying without a problem, it all pointed out to a program that would be superior to anything that the world has to this day even. Sadly, USSR collapsed.
Russians revived some of the concepts of those smaller side boosters that would have gone on Energia-2, but the program as a whole was largely forgotten as Russia today has no use for a rocket of those capabilities. They don't have the market for it - no large scale orbital infrastructure projects for them to use it on, nor large scale interplanetary missions.
All this hating back and forth. We’re lucky in that sense to have had such a technically capable adversary. It made each other better. Russians and Americans have really pushed humanity forward or better said up.
Nicely said.
Only because we wanted to kill each other. Unfortunately. The ISS is a taste of what we can do when we work together but profit margins and national pride trump science and advancement every time.
Got to admit despite our political differences if America and Russia truly allied it would be a new superpower.
War or fear of war always has a way of pushing the technological frontier. Think about it, at the start of WWI people were still fighting on horseback and a few years later the first armored tanks came out. In WWII tanks went from slow lumbering crawlers to tanks that could move around 60 mph and had onboard electronic targeting. While it is unfortunate that our governments are no longer pushing these frontiers I am thankful that we no longer feel the need to push them like we used to, it seems corporations are pushing the frontiers these days.
@@theoonyoutube They did however build electronic targeting into the flying fortress during the war. They used vacuum tubes that ran from the gun to a computer and adjusted for distance and lead.
*Wow this art style is amazing.*
This is the first video i saw from you.
You have just gained a subscriber!
Ditto!
Black Hole the out to though
The Legacy trash get ko
This is absolutely FALSE! Vice versa: The USA had STOLEN THE BURAN TECHNOLOGY ! It was tested many times before the USA could even think of such Technology! Moreover BURAN WAS FULLY AUTOMATED W/O ANY MAN CONTROLE INSIDE IT! The USA COULD NOT EVEN REACH THE EARTH ORBIT! The betrayers of the Soviet Government, against the Western protection at becoming the Olygarchs and destruction of the USSR, just gave away all secrets of the USSR space technology, incl. THE ENGINES, ROCKETS, SPACE STATION ,SHUTTLE TECHNOLOGY, BURAN . THE USA simply copied that and claimed to the whole WORLD THAT IT WAS THEIR OWN TECHNOLOGY AND that EVEN THEY LANDED ON THE MOON!! 😂😂What a boldness , absense of any MORALITY and psycic deseas to claim this !! 😂😂😂 BURAN was as the most successful space project since 1959, first Moon landing of the SOVIET space station LUNA-2, PURPOSEFULLY PHYSICALLY DESTROYED AND SHUT DOWN AS AN IMMENSLY SUCCESSFUL PROJECT BY THE GOVERNMENTAL AND SOVIET COSMOS DIRECTORS!!
DrPhysik isthegreatest
No?
The Americans announced the program before development on BURAN started, and the BURAN was developed in response.
And please, when writing a serious essay, don’t use emoji, and fix your fucking grammar.
There are lots of youtube channels that post good, engaging content, but there are only a few, like mustard, that I just can't wait to watch.
The soviet space shuttle was truly a work of engineering. It's so sad to see that it just got put on the shelf after one use after performing perfectly. It's so frustrating and I would have loved to see this beast fly.
Ещё более печально то что корабль и ракетоноситель были просто уничтожены обрушившийся крышей ангара в 2002 году
It obviously wasn’t that good then.
The story I always heard was that they also had damage to the thermal protection during launch and after analysis decided the risk of loss was to high.
Weird that you said the Soviets were paranoid but then listed a bunch of perfectly reasonable interpretations of the appearance of the shuttle program
if you are paranoid it doesn't mean _they_ are not watching
Soviets just took finantial bias for military smokescreen. In the end both USA and USSR spent billions for a really shitty idea.
Soviets wasted money on projects like space shuttles while their peoples became poorer and were sick of the Communhst control of their everyday lives.
Ankh Morpok lol
Ankh Morpok, it was 80's, what control are you talking about, lol?
I was lucky enough to see the Buran in person when on display in Sydney ~2000. It was amazing! Thanks mum, for finding science more interesting than going to movie world :)
Whata hell it was doin there? Its not an easy thing to transport
Garry - one of them (I don't think it was the one that went to space). Not entirely sure how it was funded or if there were other reasons.
Edit
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/OK-GLI
Nice! I saw one in Moscow, it just stands there in park :D
I pretty sure its still there.
Garry that's model too.
Original Buran was destroyed by roof collapse in 2002.
IIRC That was the atmospheric glide model, OK-GLI - same purpose as the Enterprise Shuttle.
Great video! Thanks for doing this!
I love the style of this older video making it very also 80's like - please redo this style in the future, the screens are awesomely made i cant show enough how COOL the video looks.
Why do I get all this information from CZcams and not school?
@Sirius Stark Al Ghul and thats sad....
@Sirius Stark Al Ghul Sadly.
Just realised how fucked american education must be smh
@Sirius Stark Al Ghul exactly
every other reply stupid, heres the simple reason:
no one is going to want you to learn about an obscure piece of technology when school curriculum is already overtaxed with stuff to teach. it would merely push out something else.
also, this is not real, appliable knowledge, just trivia. something you are meant to learn on your own.
That is one sexy thumbnail!
Those quad-boosters...
THICC
And this has 666 likes.
I NEED IT!
Danm
This video is beautifully made, love the retro computer graphics.
6:55 That's a complete change of pace for the Soviets.
I took part in launching of the Energia-Buran System in 1988 and i'm very proud of it. But few people know that there was a project to add one more "bird" to the opposit side of the Energia carier so that 2Burans could be launched at the same time. Energiya Buran was ahead of its time for decades that's why there was no corresponding to its power tasks and it was too expansive.
Wow never knew that. It would have been an amazing sight to see the two attached.
how many more boosters would they have added to energia? cuz 2 buran (62 ton) is heavier than 100ton payload capacity cited in this video and many more.
@@GrandMoffOfMars
Volcan could have carred up to 200t ( in the5th position of the scheme below - 3 birds, in the 6th position - two birds with retractable wings, in the1st position - cargo, 2nd - manned) It was almost twice more large then simple Energia-Buran/
pikabu.ru/story/sverkhtyazhyolyiy_nositel_vulkan__dlinnopost_3134349
www.k26.com/buran/Info/Hercules/vulkan.html
Energia-2 czcams.com/video/JzWfxQeVBy8/video.html
There was even a hily developed progect OK-M-1/MMKS with reale two birds on the carier www.buran.ru/htm/bigbook3.htm
It's a shame you didn't design it yourselves
You'd have been even prouder, had you designed it yourselves.
These videos are pure craftsmanship. How long on average does each video take to fully animate?
They keep me locked in the basement :)
....but to answer.. about 3 weeks on average.
That is incredible. For only 62k subscribers. You should be up there with Wendover Productions and Vsauce with this quality!
@TheBritishUnknown Britain played a huge role in making Apollo a reality. Without Britains help, we likely wouldn't have made it to the Moon. Von Brauns rockets were a small part of what is required to land on the Moon and return safely.This was a joint effort of thousands of very talented men and women. Everyone needs to be included in the thanks..
Awesome graphics at the end!!
@0:26 You made cola come out my nose - that was hilarious!
great channel, Im french but your english is sooo clean I can understand without pausing the video each 3 sec 😁
Victor Pelini yes he definately has a radio capable voice
Victor Pelini
Dude im portuguese and i understand everything
Capitão Explosão Brazilian understanding everythinhg
Victor Pelini merde. Tu es idoit
Your english sucks then
I absolutely love your channel, keep going!
Another excellent and entertaining video! Thanks Mustard team!
These videos are amazing ! SUCH QUALITY CONTENT !
Thats just how CZcams should be👍
Couldn't agree more, unfortunately its 90% clickbaity garbage instead.
amazing editing as always Mustard, fantastic video!
God, the Space Shuttle was so cool. I loved it as a child, and still do
❤ you Mustard! Thanks for great video!
You could have really spent two additional sentences on how the Burans were left rotting away in remote Kazakhstan desert.
Its sad. I want to see it next to the STS.
@@alex_inside The Atmospheric flight prototype is on Display at the Technikmuseum Sinsheim, Germany. Unfortunately they have no Shuttle though
Such a shame
Buran isnt the type of aircraft (eq Shuttle) it is the name of the craft (Discovery, Atlantis..) even if the soviet union didnt fall and produced more of shuttles, there would still be only one Buran
Too sad.
Wow that's actually pretty damn impressive
The Russians do everything better.
pp rr But this one was one of the most expensive shuttles ever
pp rr Except for democracies and human rights
pp rr The Soviets* now the russians are off the grid with rarely nothing revolutionary coming out of them
cornskid.
" How many payload flights did Buran make? How many Russian footprints are on the moon?"
Lol, the Americans were not on the moon, everything was filmed by Stanley Kubrick in the pavilions of Hollywood.
I saw one of the shuttles at the VDNKh (Exhibition Centre) in Moscow, a couple of years ago. As it was next to a kids playground, I assumed it would be just a fake mock-up, as the interior was also mostly empty too. However, when I spun the nosewheel, it kept rotating for about 5 minutes! If this is indeed just a replica, that's still some serious technology right there.
I respect every space agency
Wow ! These infographics were amazing
Hey Mustard, I really thought I knew a lot about the Soviet Buran Shuttle but this video proved me wrong (again) like in the L1011 and the Tu144 video. Keep up the good work!
Same!
Hayden Soloviev What prove do you have ?
Roberto Aseremo I just knew a lot about the history of the two aircraft and the specs, flights, and cost. But this video proved me wrong. There’s so much more info out there ;)
Hayden Soloviev Well prove it or do you prove ? if know something how can the Russian have a Space Shuttle like the Buran ? And by the way is the meaning of Buran ? if know something
Buran is Russian for Blizzard. The Russians couldnt afford to keep Buran after the dissolution of the USSR, because they had little money.
This is a way better video on the buran than the one i saw from infographics show who just framed it as a lazy 1:1 replica of the shuttle which got destroyed in 2002
Great videos, thank you !
Dude, that's really high quality content! Congratulations! Keep 'em coming!
Must-sub channel. Videos are well done and facts are well said
Matt Cadden *Mustard-sub channel
The Buran prototype OK-GLI from 1984 is in Germany at the museum Speyer. I was amazed by its dimensions.
these renders are simply amazing
So... The Soviets went and built a better shuttle than us, then were smart enough to realize that it's a horrible waste of limited funds and not keep flying it like us. I do miss Energia though; it was an incredible rocket and the booster recovery concepts were amazing.
Mush V. Peets
Energia is not forgotten. It's engine, the RD-170, was slightly optimized and nowadays Russia sells it to the USA. Under name RD-180 it is used in Atlas rockets.
At the end of the video Mustard said there may have been some practical uses for it. Its just that the Soviets didn't know how economies worked and their nation collapsed. America could at least keep going, and keep going they did, seeing as THEIR space shuttle helped assemble the ISS (until Obama decided to cut the Constellation and Space Shuttle programs because he also sucks at managing economies).
I've gotten to see the Buran up close on display in Moscow several times. Honestly it isn't as impressive as the American counterpart. It really blocky. It looks like a school bus with wings. Every time I took people to see it they were pretty surprised that it actually launched.
@@adamhale6672 Looks aren't everything though mate
@@Sm00thieK Its called CAPTURED
Oh and also, who the fuck says we need a more powerful engine than the RD170, efficiency is where the main focus lies now adays and thats a good thing
When the kid who asks to borrow your homework gets a better grade
Underrated
But he doesn't really DO anything except win praise from other dummies.
Copy the Harrier jump jet - Russia ended up making junk.
Copy the Concorde - Russia ended up making junk
Copies the Space shuttle - Russia ended up making junk
Where's the evidence that they made anything they copied, better?
the USSR were just like China today. Steal, hack, copy = substandard junk.
@@Jin-Ro so everything they made was junk ? are you sure about that karen ? i think you don't know about the cold war btw well if I want to say copy well muricans are the real cult here where did you made the A bomb huh ? from captured german scientist, most of the modern warfare technology alone came from Germany and allied nations shared it so yeh , the junk is US plus the first satellite was made and launch by soviets also many other technological advancements and muricans copied it so yeh murica sucs , gay country
@@vladimirmakarov2661
"(...) everything they made was junk ?"
From a commercial point of view, You'll have to agree.
The 'Buran', like several Soviet designs were _prestige_ projects in order to prove capability of the Soviet political system - that is _central economic planning_ by a political party (and the prestige was ultimately about domestic party politics).
From the engineering perspective, however Soviets - who also captured German scientists - _did innovate_ - e.g. when it came to speed and diving depth of submarines (eventually coming to grips with acoustics), altitude of interceptors, made of 'abundant' titanium and _reliable_ booster rockets (after initial catastrophic failures).
Whenever the Soviets - or Russia since the 17th century - took 'Western' science to innovate according to their _distinct_ geographic conditions rather than Western 'fashion', they made desirable products (e.g. 4th generation aircraft).
It is a question of _design_ principle - and national strategy.
None of that mattered, though if the state collapses due to the mismatch between central and 'federal' interests and a general decline in work ethics - something the Americans will learn as well as their Cold War society is currently in social unrest, with a standard of living, lower than Western Germany, everywhere away from affluent coastal cities.
I'm still holding out for the Russian smartphone and CPU - if it is ever developed, I'd rather have a 'brick' that doesn't break, works at -40°C - and is encrypted - than Western 'fluff' with 'planned obsolescence'.
love the high quality content
Excellent video!!
You should have far more subs with this video quality keep it up dude
Amazing, keep up the good work!
Mustard's editing at its best
In 1974 in USSR was printed a book for children "A House in Space (Дом в космосе)". And the spacecraft pictured in illustrations was quite similar to space shuttle.
I think it would be interesting to see a take on the other plane that helped build Energiya rocket- the VM-T cargo carrier and its predeccessor, M-4 long range bomber.
LOVE the green computer graphics and the whole ending!
This is an awesome video about one of my favorite topics. I really respect how much work went into the graphics, and it certainly paid off. More please!
I love your content keep it up!!!
Thank you for the super thanks!
Fun video and I learned a thing or two. Thank you!