Lane markings don't help sometimes unfortunately. Some lanes suddenly split into 2 lanes like Redbridge roundabout. I've had my license 6 years but roundabouts I feel aren't always marked safely/clearly by the government
@@BWFAIZANSRD By my understanding on the approach there are 2 lane which open to 3 lanes. One (left lane) going left, second middle (straight over) and third (straight over). So since the first lane only goes left, the second can be the lane you pick to go to the left most lane after the first exit. The driver goes to the middle lane which isn’t incorrect as both second and third lane says go straight over. But ideally if you want to go in the middle or right lane you should be in the third lane. That’s why the van overtook him because since the driver was in the second lane he should be following through to the left most lane. Is that correct?
part of the reason why this is confusing to some people watching is because this video does not clearly show where the left turn lane is on the roundabout and how it drops off. it only shows the lane on the dual carriageway
I failed my first test (many moons ago) for supposedly crossing lanes on a roundabout making it confusing for other drivers! The difference being there was absolutely zero road markings! 😢thought it was a bit harsh at the time.
I failed a test for driving through a puddle too fast. Exact reason I was given. Basically convinced me they just have to fail a certain amount of people to meet quotas or some shit
@@nahi.03 A lot of spiral roundabouts have lines which guide you. But my question is when they're not there to guide you and you're travelling at a relatively high speed you could be tricked into thinking the wrong lane, especially if its a RA you have never been to that has unique lane markings
@@pgpsdoug3986 if it’s any help, have the idea that unless you’re exiting on your right, left is always best!! When you approach a roundabout, and you’re exiting on an exit left of the roundabout, gradually move into the left lane as default :). Hope it helps :)
That shouldn't have been a fail since he went out on the right hand lane instead of swerving over at most would be a minor mark just go into the left lane when safe to do so
I forget how learning to drive is so hard. I think all my cycling helped me a lot, and I’d recommend it to anyone learning to drive. A very cheap way of getting to know roads and junctions.
Alright so, when entering the roundabout the far left lane was a left turn only, middle and right were able to go ahead. After entering the roundabout in a mid lane check your left mirror and move over to the far left lane of the roundabout once passing the first exit. The reason the other car drove infront of the learner is because he expected the learner to move to the left and allow him to get in the lane the learner was in safely.
No. Use the middle lane to go straight and then immediately move into the left lane in the roundabout. The right lane has priority to use the middle lane on the roundabout to go straight. Both left and middle lanes in the roundabout go straight, and right is only for right.
That's so confusing though. The floor arrows in the left lane show a left turn only which I always thought is for the first exit, so if you are taking the second exit would you not automatically stay in the middle lane as per the markings showing straight ahead. The lanes do split after the first exit which I think make roundabouts so much more difficult and prone to accidents because people are never sure or in the correct position
Thank you so much Prof. Amman for reminding this very important situation to be careful. If happen that drivers are thinking about job, burdens and it’s really part of our life to make a mistake unintentionally. Dad reminds me all very important matter for the safe of all once I am on my way before I left garage. I miss him so much every day since 1999😢.
And has got worse,Imagine this and it was paradise 1977 Petrol £1.60 A GALLON AND NO SPEED CAMERAS AND NO REAL WAY FOR THE POLICE TO CATCH YOU FOR SPEEDING EXCEPT SIT BEHIND YOU AND MATCH YOUR SPEED FOR THREE TENTHS OF A MILE! PARADISE UTOPIA
Nah you can see where the lines disappeared if you follow them they curve round the the left most lane not the lane the driver went in. Also you can think of it like this: the turn left lane went left so the lane the driver was in was the left most lane you could be in to go over the roundabout ergo they should be in the left most lane at the end, not the middle lane :)
He came from a 3 lane, left lane going left, 2 lanes going straight. He was in the middle lane. Basically, his middle lane as he entered the round about exits into a dual carriage way. He should have followed the other curvature of the round about entering the dual carriage way on its left lane. The right lane where the van was, can be fine too, only if he entered the roundabout on the right lane not middle, as he entered the roundabout.
I would not describe this as a roundabout as a roundabout should be free flowing but this junction has multiple traffic lights on it preventing the free flow of traffic. Therefore it’s a traffic light junction.
Main issue too why its confusing is that the line for your middle lane cuts off and that part with no white lines perspective wise if you are becoming narrow sighted looks like you are in line for the right line as you entered where the van was. When in fact you are joining a dual carriage and from your middle lane should enter on the left lane. So you gotta widen your vision and make sure you stick to your lane cause I won't lie, it's very confusing if not aided by any white lines on the road.
Driver is probably thinking about the vehicles which were to their right and subconsciously trying to stay in the lane immediate left of them, instead of looking at the road layout ahead of them.
As US driver (not a frequent roundabout user) I can see how they got confused, but I imagine after some experience the lanes become easier to follow. Even after watching a couple times, I can easily see the mistake. That looked so dangerous!
This is soooo a pet peeve of mine when on the road, ok yes some make mistakes, that's expected, and if I make mistakes I apologise if I can. It's when you get the arrogant drivers who feel they know what is best and can do what they want!
I did this exact same thing on this roundabout the other day, my first time going round it! Only when in the passenger seat going round it did I fully understand what I did!
Cam driver should take the left most lane after the first exit. If the driver wish to go towards right lane at the exit, driver should be in right most lane at the entry of roundabout and follows the right lane towards the exit.
@@OFCOURSE20 no, I was saying that what you was trying to correct was not the source of confusion. either way never mind as it looks like the video does not clearly show what’s happening to the left turn lane throughout the entire video anyway which is confusing viewers even more
@@zcharged8294 lol what do you mean? The first lane takes you off the roundabout, the middle lane takes you to the first lane of the roundabout. The OP is correct.
@@SimulatorWhiz By my understanding on the approach there are 2 lane which open to 3 lanes. One (left lane) going left, second middle (straight over) and third (straight over). So since the first lane only goes left, the second can be the lane you pick to go to the left most lane after the first exit. The driver goes to the middle lane which isn’t incorrect as both second and third lane says go straight over. But ideally if you want to go in the middle or right lane you should be in the third lane. That’s why the van overtook him because since the driver was in the second lane he should be following through to the left most lane. Is that correct?
I swear with all the rules they have for driving out there, It seems like you need a PHD to do so...🤨 And boy do they love their roundabouts, way to many!!🙅🏽♂️
Lack of lane marking doesn't help, I usually keep the road marking on my left in mind when picking a lane and use it as a guide, this one doesn't have one so I could see why it appears to be confusing for new drivers
As you approach, the left lane’s arrow says straight ahead. Now imagine if there is traffic on top of the arrows at the roundabout. How would you know that you now need to switch to the middle lane. This is where an actual sign, showing the lanes, would help. Perhaps even numbering the exits 1, 2, 3 and similarly numbering the lanes on the roundabout.
. 1) seems insufficient road markings. 2) roundabouts have been changed by some smarty, (may be the same person for smart motorways) from their original purpose. In my day it wasn't solely an overtaking lane as was said. Roundabouts replaced cross junctions. If a roundabout could not be installed then the cross junction was altered to an offset cross junction. The old system, like me, is still best in my mind. Examble, nearside lane left turn only, as shown in the clip. Offside lane goes ahead into offside lane or around a right into offside lane. This is assuming twin lanes in each. Then merge into nearside lane (as if an overtaken manoeuvre) when safe to do so. Unless you have an Audi or. BMW that is. This enabled a greater volume of continuous flowing traffic. And here are some tips. Never go around a roundabout beside or travel aside an artic or lowloader and look out if same is taking a left turn heading toward you. Examine any twin wheeled vehicle thats been of road, ie building site, quarry etc. for rubble wedged between its rear tyres. Plus always beware of woman drivers applying their eye makeup when approaching traffic lights. Factual, i and a double decker bus had to take evasive action as she drove straight through the red. Never ever trust an indicator. If you are getting frustratingly impatient with a vehicle in front, then think its a police car. What gets me is the bum sniffers (tailgating) and the nose pickers (cutting up). Always remember your best passenger is "CAUTION" not aggression. No matter the fancy style or size of wheel, you only have approximately 6 inch of tyre on the road surface. Most importantly, turn your mobile OFF and into your boot. Worst job for the Fire rescue service personnel , is collecting up the body parts. Worst job for a police constable, is having to inform the family that a drunk, a druggie, a mobile nutter, speed freak has just squashed the life out of their wife, husband, son, daughter. Remember, other than on a motorway, horse and people have the right of way. Why have i said all this? Well, 'Its easier to stop anything before it starts". Plus, "You never know whats around the corner" and also "You cant readily fix stupid".
Mobile Phone use is only getting worse, I swear. More than 50% of the time I've been behind someone not moving at a green light and had to give them a polite beep was because they were on their phone. Kids on bikes without helmets using them too while cycling with no hands. Who on earth is knocking sense into these lads!?
@@jakerockznoodles I believe the technology exists to put the phone in to airplane mode at 5 mph or more or even get your location and do the same rendering the phone inoperable but the law needs to make it compulsory on all new phones
Alright so, when entering the roundabout the far left lane was a left turn only, middle and right were able to go ahead. After entering the roundabout in a mid lane check your left mirror and move over to the far left lane of the roundabout once passing the first exit. The reason the other car drove infront of the learner is because he expected the learner to move to the left and allow him to get in the lane the learner was in safely.
@@wesleyp989 By my understanding on the approach there are 2 lane which open to 3 lanes. One (left lane) going left, second middle (straight over) and third (straight over). So since the first lane only goes left, the second can be the lane you pick to go to the left most lane after the first exit. The driver goes to the middle lane which isn’t incorrect as both second and third lane says go straight over. But ideally if you want to go in the middle or right lane you should be in the third lane. That’s why the van overtook him because since the driver was in the second lane he should be following through to the left most lane. Is that correct?
@@marco7838 so in the time since this comment I’ve passed my driving test, yippee. So on a rewatch of this yes your correct. The learner should have moved over but the van driver, likely due to impatience, went ahead of the learner to do the correct action from his 3rd lane. The Learner was incorrect and should have moved from the second lane to the left of the round about once they passed the first exit, the fact the learner didn’t do this combined with the van drivers impatience would cause the fail. Hope this helped Marco
It doesn’t really matter though as both lanes go the same place and just move back when it is safe. It’s not normal and overtaking here it’s for double the volume of traffic to go to that same place.
Yes but how are they supposed to move over to the left that quickly when the first lane is meant for left only. Surely they gotta wait until they pass the penultimate exit
By my understanding on the approach there are 2 lane which open to 3 lanes. One (left lane) going left, second middle (straight over) and third (straight over). So since the first lane only goes left, the second can be the lane you pick to go to the left most lane after the first exit. The driver goes to the middle lane which isn’t incorrect as both second and third lane says go straight over. But ideally if you want to go in the middle or right lane you should be in the third lane. That’s why the van overtook him because since the driver was in the second lane he should be following through to the left most lane. Is that correct?
Since you indicate and look at the mirrors, i think there is no problem. Me, as a driver, if i am going in front (straight) i choose the middle one, so, couldn't see any mistake from the learner there.
If you are in the middle lane and the left lane on the approach is only going left then you can assume that the middle lane is the next lane to allow the driver to follow through to the left most lane after the first exit. Rather the driver follows through the middle lane which is ideally where you want to go from the first most lane. Hence why the van overtook him
You won’t believe how so many “experienced” drivers don’t care about lane discipline on roundabouts. I have to deal with people doing it every morning driving into work. The worst thing is, if they just stayed in the lane I join in they’d come round beautifully and not need to cut in at the last second. They take the right lane instead of the middle, it’s laughable but dangerous.
These lane markings suck. There's no lane split marker onto the roundabout to tell you which lane to follow to as you join the roundabout. You also can turn left from the middle lane if you correctly joined the roundabout however this isn't signposted correctly when you join the roundabout
I'm a lorry driver and I see this happening literally every day. People getting the wrong lane at roundabout all the time. I am absolutely staggered there are more accidents. I see most frequently at motorway junctions. E.g. M4 junction 15 Swindon westbound exit, all three lanes turn right. I'd say 50% of all lorries get this wrong. But it happens everywhere.
The thing that confuses me is that the original left lane also has marking for straight ahead. So surely you’d be better off staying in the original left lane for both the first and second exits?
Left lane before roundabout states left turn or straight. Once you're ON the roundabout, this becomes straight only, hence you still need to keep LHS of the roundabout. I'd be a bit confused here too TBH, Normally they'd add the dotted line leading you onto the correct one but might make it bit messy from markings. 👍🏻
Why were the cars stopped on the inside? Shouldn’t they be in a lane? Not on the shoulder? The lane markings are hard to follow and the parked vehicles make it seem like the pov driver stayed in the center lane throughout.
The driver was supposed to of moved back into the furthest left lane just after passing the first exit. The reason why you don't position in the furthest left lane to begin with is because road markings are telling you that it's an immediate left turn.
The markings on the approach to that roundabout appear to be wrong. Going round the roundabout there are 3 lanes. The straight across exit (exit 2) has two lanes. Counting from left to right, the 3 lanes on the roundabout are: Roundabout Lane 1 -> Second Exit Lane 1 Roundabout Lane 2 -> Second Exit Lane 2 Roundabout Lane 3 -> Third exit and higher if there are any. If this is the required routing, then that filter lane on the left for the first exit is wrongly marked and the arrow should indicate both left turn and straight ahead. So what this driver has done is: go around the roundabout in Lane 2 and exit at junction 2 lane 2 which is the overtaking lane. Nothing massively wrong in this. Particularly in rush hour when there will be cars in lanes 1 and 2 on the roundabout all coming off in exit 2, lanes 1 and 2. They won't be overtaking lanes in rush hour. They will be just two parallel lanes accommodating the high volume of traffic. In order to get into Lane 1 at exit 2, he really needs to be in the left turn lane approaching the roundabout and ignore that left turn instruction OR Approach the roundabout in the middle lane - as he did, and then as he pulls on to the roundabout immediately change lanes and move to the left most lane on the roundabout - roundabout Lane 1 in my nomenclature I used earlier. It's not entirely clear in the video which of these would have been best or the right thing to do.
Were you meant to go left lane, to middle lane, to outside lane of the roundabout? They're honestly the hardest part for learning to drive, every roundabout is an adjustment to what a roundabout should be like.
By my understanding on the approach there are 2 lane which open to 3 lanes. One (left lane) going left, second middle (straight over) and third (straight over). So since the first lane only goes left, the second can be the lane you pick to go to the left most lane after the first exit. The driver goes to the middle lane which isn’t incorrect as both second and third lane says go straight over. But ideally if you want to go in the middle or right lane you should be in the third lane. That’s why the van overtook him because since the driver was in the second lane he should be following through to the left most lane. Is that correct?
@@zoezebra4013 exactly. He was at wrong for taking the middle lane. I wont blame that person as I had the same difficulty when I saw these crazy roundabouts for the first time.
Sorry, I did not understand, he entered the middle lane and basically hand to turn and end up in the left lane? Is that correct? Someone please help and correct me here, thank you
It's hard to see the road properly in this video, so that makes it harder to see whats going on. Being from a country where road lines and signs are much better I feel English roundabouts are a bit dangerous. But taking a look at the road from Google map, I can see the mistake much better, there was enough room to keep to the left but I can understand that mistaks can happend if you are new in this situation or easyly get confused . But road lines suck big time in many places in England. It's the system's own fault that so many accidents happen. they should make sure lines can be seen better.
but my instructor said you just slot into your lane and you dont have to signal so I'm confused now. edit: oh I'm a bit confused actually, was he supposed to be in the left hand lane?
When approaching the roundabout, he was correctly in the middle lane (straight arrow) but as soon as he entered the roundabout, he should have stayed to the left lane that is turning (there was another left lane for the first exit so moving to that left lane that is turning is just for people turning, not people taking the first exit)
Very easy to see why driver thought that blue van was moving into his lane, given that van did not follow the car in front, there are no lane markings to provide guidance, and the critical clue that the road marking provides is blocked from view by the van.
Those entry markings are weird. How do you go from the centre lane into the left lane that according to the arrow, doesn't exist, but there are still three lanes in the roundabout. An example of 'need to be familiar'. Need a wider angle
Didn’t the van commit an offence? Secondly the lanes resume after a gap , so why is it an offence when the driver just resumed in the lane and could have switched lane when the markings started , whereas the van sped in to the drivers path ?
This seems like total nonsense to me. The van was in the wrong lane approaching the roundabout then rather than suck it up and go right sneaks in right in front of our correct driver on the roundabout.
That looks like a design fault tbf it’s screaming for people who are in a rush to get to work etc to use that left hand lane to go straight on . It’s a island that if you know it your ok if it’s your first time 😬 Love to see how many accidents there have been .
It's designed to increase the flow, Personally I think they should leave things alone,Just two lane's not three,So the left lane would be left or straight ahead and the right lane straight ahead onto the passing lane or turn right.
Lane markings don't help sometimes unfortunately. Some lanes suddenly split into 2 lanes like Redbridge roundabout. I've had my license 6 years but roundabouts I feel aren't always marked safely/clearly by the government
absolutely right
Redbridge roundabout is an absolute nightmare
First lane is left only, common sense would dictate you follow the roundabout to your left. No matter how many other lanes you have on the right.
@@BWFAIZANSRD that was never in question you clown.
@@BWFAIZANSRD By my understanding on the approach there are 2 lane which open to 3 lanes. One (left lane) going left, second middle (straight over) and third (straight over). So since the first lane only goes left, the second can be the lane you pick to go to the left most lane after the first exit. The driver goes to the middle lane which isn’t incorrect as both second and third lane says go straight over. But ideally if you want to go in the middle or right lane you should be in the third lane. That’s why the van overtook him because since the driver was in the second lane he should be following through to the left most lane. Is that correct?
Roundabouts always panic me.
Male or female?
@Livin Off The Grid not really, it's a very simple question and I'll ask whatever I want. Nice try though.
@Livin Off The Grid yeah yeah blud, alright fam, safe bruv 🤣
@Livin Off The Grid comment isn’t odd whatsoever, women suck at driving get over it.
in the US it’s easy
part of the reason why this is confusing to some people watching is because this video does not clearly show where the left turn lane is on the roundabout and how it drops off. it only shows the lane on the dual carriageway
The video is crap
Also because in most of the world the passing lane is the left one, not the other way around 😂
I failed my first test (many moons ago) for supposedly crossing lanes on a roundabout making it confusing for other drivers! The difference being there was absolutely zero road markings! 😢thought it was a bit harsh at the time.
I failed a test for driving through a puddle too fast. Exact reason I was given. Basically convinced me they just have to fail a certain amount of people to meet quotas or some shit
Did you pass in the end
@@rowan6207I got failed for going 30 in a 30 so yeah I agree with that
Lane marking at this roundabout sucks.
Yes. I drive through this a few times a week and see this happen all the time
I just made this mistake today in my lesson. But its very hard as the signs are not very clear and you don't have enough time to react
Yes exactly my problem too
@@nahi.03 A lot of spiral roundabouts have lines which guide you. But my question is when they're not there to guide you and you're travelling at a relatively high speed you could be tricked into thinking the wrong lane, especially if its a RA you have never been to that has unique lane markings
@@pgpsdoug3986 if it’s any help, have the idea that unless you’re exiting on your right, left is always best!! When you approach a roundabout, and you’re exiting on an exit left of the roundabout, gradually move into the left lane as default :). Hope it helps :)
@@declanwallace8995 Thanks a lot for the help ☺️ real good tip!!!!!!!!!
That shouldn't have been a fail since he went out on the right hand lane instead of swerving over at most would be a minor mark just go into the left lane when safe to do so
I forget how learning to drive is so hard. I think all my cycling helped me a lot, and I’d recommend it to anyone learning to drive. A very cheap way of getting to know roads and junctions.
Driving is the most difficult thing most people will ever do. It is also the most dangerous, with the possible exception of giving birth.
Are you male or female?
@@Alan_Clark 😭😭😭 nah bro what. I don't even drive a car. I have a motorbike and I've never been unsafe.
A cheap way to get yourself killed lol
That's good cause I'm a cyclist and I'm on the road a lot, and just started lessons.
Alright so, when entering the roundabout the far left lane was a left turn only, middle and right were able to go ahead. After entering the roundabout in a mid lane check your left mirror and move over to the far left lane of the roundabout once passing the first exit. The reason the other car drove infront of the learner is because he expected the learner to move to the left and allow him to get in the lane the learner was in safely.
No. Use the middle lane to go straight and then immediately move into the left lane in the roundabout. The right lane has priority to use the middle lane on the roundabout to go straight. Both left and middle lanes in the roundabout go straight, and right is only for right.
@@rav119 thanks for this
I still don’t really get it tbh
Thank you very much for explaining that, her explanation wasn't very clear why it was a serious fault
That's so confusing though. The floor arrows in the left lane show a left turn only which I always thought is for the first exit, so if you are taking the second exit would you not automatically stay in the middle lane as per the markings showing straight ahead. The lanes do split after the first exit which I think make roundabouts so much more difficult and prone to accidents because people are never sure or in the correct position
Is a bad design. My wife did the same move last week. I drive through this roundabout regularly and see it happen all the time
Thank you so much Prof. Amman for reminding this very important situation to be careful. If happen that drivers are thinking about job, burdens and it’s really part of our life to make a mistake unintentionally. Dad reminds me all very important matter for the safe of all once I am on my way before I left garage. I miss him so much every day since 1999😢.
Great explanation, absolutely clear, the driver should have moved to the left most lane for the second exit immediately upon entering the roundabout
If there was an obvious left to slip in to on the roundabout, yes.
Round abouts like this are just inconsistent and shit. UK roads are shit. Driving here is horrible.
And has got worse,Imagine this and it was paradise 1977 Petrol £1.60 A GALLON AND NO SPEED CAMERAS AND NO REAL WAY FOR THE POLICE TO CATCH YOU FOR SPEEDING EXCEPT SIT BEHIND YOU AND MATCH YOUR SPEED FOR THREE TENTHS OF A MILE!
PARADISE UTOPIA
I agree, UK roundabouts are major features on CZcams fail videos.
This doesn’t make sense to me ibr they stayed in the same lane
Nah you can see where the lines disappeared if you follow them they curve round the the left most lane not the lane the driver went in. Also you can think of it like this: the turn left lane went left so the lane the driver was in was the left most lane you could be in to go over the roundabout ergo they should be in the left most lane at the end, not the middle lane :)
He came from a 3 lane, left lane going left, 2 lanes going straight. He was in the middle lane.
Basically, his middle lane as he entered the round about exits into a dual carriage way.
He should have followed the other curvature of the round about entering the dual carriage way on its left lane.
The right lane where the van was, can be fine too, only if he entered the roundabout on the right lane not middle, as he entered the roundabout.
I believe as long as there's broken lines you can switch lanes as long as it is safe.
I would not describe this as a roundabout as a roundabout should be free flowing but this junction has multiple traffic lights on it preventing the free flow of traffic. Therefore it’s a traffic light junction.
That's right but still serves a good explanation of roundabouts entrance and exit
Not usually confused, i find roads easy to read. But this roundabout got me🥴.
Main issue too why its confusing is that the line for your middle lane cuts off and that part with no white lines perspective wise if you are becoming narrow sighted looks like you are in line for the right line as you entered where the van was. When in fact you are joining a dual carriage and from your middle lane should enter on the left lane.
So you gotta widen your vision and make sure you stick to your lane cause I won't lie, it's very confusing if not aided by any white lines on the road.
Could you please do a full video on spiral roundabouts with 3 lanes plz .
Driver is probably thinking about the vehicles which were to their right and subconsciously trying to stay in the lane immediate left of them, instead of looking at the road layout ahead of them.
As US driver (not a frequent roundabout user) I can see how they got confused, but I imagine after some experience the lanes become easier to follow. Even after watching a couple times, I can easily see the mistake. That looked so dangerous!
That roundabout should have dotted lines on it to help guide drivers entering it and keeping to the correct lanes.
You can’t see it on camera but basically the lane in the left next to the van was the one they were supposed to follow…
Oh thank you I was a bit confused
I've always found it, easy to tell which lanes are what lanes and I don't get confused by roundabouts easily for now
This is soooo a pet peeve of mine when on the road, ok yes some make mistakes, that's expected, and if I make mistakes I apologise if I can. It's when you get the arrogant drivers who feel they know what is best and can do what they want!
So glad i passed my test a few weeks ago. I remember the anxiety i had watching these videos. I thought my test was straightforward in fairness.
Such a charming voice
I’m not even old enough to drive but I still love watching this
Nobody cares
@@Carltonwanks I do
I did this exact same thing on this roundabout the other day, my first time going round it! Only when in the passenger seat going round it did I fully understand what I did!
I take this road daily to get home from work and it seems a lot more people need to see this video 😂
Cam driver should take the left most lane after the first exit.
If the driver wish to go towards right lane at the exit, driver should be in right most lane at the entry of roundabout and follows the right lane towards the exit.
Remember if you're one in from the right.. remain one in on the right. Helps maintain position
that’s not right as there were 3 lanes on the roundabout which is likely what caused the confusion
@@zcharged8294 are you saying you can't get off a roundabout staying one in from the right if the lanes are guiding you?
@@OFCOURSE20 no, I was saying that what you was trying to correct was not the source of confusion. either way never mind as it looks like the video does not clearly show what’s happening to the left turn lane throughout the entire video anyway which is confusing viewers even more
@@zcharged8294 lol what do you mean? The first lane takes you off the roundabout, the middle lane takes you to the first lane of the roundabout. The OP is correct.
@@SimulatorWhiz By my understanding on the approach there are 2 lane which open to 3 lanes. One (left lane) going left, second middle (straight over) and third (straight over). So since the first lane only goes left, the second can be the lane you pick to go to the left most lane after the first exit. The driver goes to the middle lane which isn’t incorrect as both second and third lane says go straight over. But ideally if you want to go in the middle or right lane you should be in the third lane. That’s why the van overtook him because since the driver was in the second lane he should be following through to the left most lane. Is that correct?
I swear with all the rules they have for driving out there, It seems like you need a PHD to do so...🤨 And boy do they love their roundabouts, way to many!!🙅🏽♂️
So true I failed my driving test three times on roundabouts. They are so hard here in uk 😭
They should put dotted lines from the entry lanes to the roundabout lanes. I have seen this once, and I thought, why is this not done everywhere?
Lack of lane marking doesn't help, I usually keep the road marking on my left in mind when picking a lane and use it as a guide, this one doesn't have one so I could see why it appears to be confusing for new drivers
As you approach, the left lane’s arrow says straight ahead. Now imagine if there is traffic on top of the arrows at the roundabout. How would you know that you now need to switch to the middle lane. This is where an actual sign, showing the lanes, would help. Perhaps even numbering the exits 1, 2, 3 and similarly numbering the lanes on the roundabout.
Every indian roundabout: we don't have such rules in here.
. 1) seems insufficient road markings.
2) roundabouts have been changed by some smarty, (may be the same person for smart motorways) from their original purpose.
In my day it wasn't solely an overtaking lane as was said.
Roundabouts replaced cross junctions. If a roundabout could not be installed then the cross junction was altered to an offset cross junction.
The old system, like me, is still best in my mind. Examble, nearside lane left turn only, as shown in the clip. Offside lane goes ahead into offside lane or around a right into offside lane. This is assuming twin lanes in each. Then merge into nearside lane (as if an overtaken manoeuvre) when safe to do so. Unless you have an Audi or. BMW that is. This enabled a greater volume of continuous flowing traffic.
And here are some tips.
Never go around a roundabout beside or travel aside an artic or lowloader and look out if same is taking a left turn heading toward you.
Examine any twin wheeled vehicle thats been of road, ie building site, quarry etc. for rubble wedged between its rear tyres.
Plus always beware of woman drivers applying their eye makeup when approaching traffic lights. Factual, i and a double decker bus had to take evasive action as she drove straight through the red.
Never ever trust an indicator.
If you are getting frustratingly impatient with a vehicle in front, then think its a police car.
What gets me is the bum sniffers (tailgating) and the nose pickers (cutting up).
Always remember your best passenger is "CAUTION" not aggression.
No matter the fancy style or size of wheel, you only have approximately 6 inch of tyre on the road surface.
Most importantly, turn your mobile OFF and into your boot.
Worst job for the Fire rescue service personnel , is collecting up the body parts.
Worst job for a police constable, is having to inform the family that a drunk, a druggie, a mobile nutter, speed freak has just squashed the life out of their wife, husband, son, daughter.
Remember, other than on a motorway, horse and people have the right of way.
Why have i said all this?
Well,
'Its easier to stop anything before it starts". Plus,
"You never know whats around the corner" and also "You cant readily fix stupid".
Mobile Phone use is only getting worse, I swear. More than 50% of the time I've been behind someone not moving at a green light and had to give them a polite beep was because they were on their phone.
Kids on bikes without helmets using them too while cycling with no hands. Who on earth is knocking sense into these lads!?
@@jakerockznoodles I believe the technology exists to put the phone in to airplane mode at 5 mph or more or even get your location and do the same rendering the phone inoperable but the law needs to make it compulsory on all new phones
Hi - I didn’t understand this. Can you help piinting the mistake?
Alright so, when entering the roundabout the far left lane was a left turn only, middle and right were able to go ahead. After entering the roundabout in a mid lane check your left mirror and move over to the far left lane of the roundabout once passing the first exit. The reason the other car drove infront of the learner is because he expected the learner to move to the left and allow him to get in the lane the learner was in safely.
left lane only to go left...
@@Pavis_Blog If it is marked as such! Otherwise left or straight ahead,Look at the road markings first
@@wesleyp989 By my understanding on the approach there are 2 lane which open to 3 lanes. One (left lane) going left, second middle (straight over) and third (straight over). So since the first lane only goes left, the second can be the lane you pick to go to the left most lane after the first exit. The driver goes to the middle lane which isn’t incorrect as both second and third lane says go straight over. But ideally if you want to go in the middle or right lane you should be in the third lane. That’s why the van overtook him because since the driver was in the second lane he should be following through to the left most lane. Is that correct?
@@marco7838 so in the time since this comment I’ve passed my driving test, yippee. So on a rewatch of this yes your correct. The learner should have moved over but the van driver, likely due to impatience, went ahead of the learner to do the correct action from his 3rd lane. The Learner was incorrect and should have moved from the second lane to the left of the round about once they passed the first exit, the fact the learner didn’t do this combined with the van drivers impatience would cause the fail. Hope this helped Marco
I think I'm in love with this lady. But, as I'm Indian (British born) I'd still have to pass it by my mum 🤷🏾♂️
It doesn’t really matter though as both lanes go the same place and just move back when it is safe. It’s not normal and overtaking here it’s for double the volume of traffic to go to that same place.
Yes but how are they supposed to move over to the left that quickly when the first lane is meant for left only. Surely they gotta wait until they pass the penultimate exit
I use this roundabout all the time (hospital bridge A316) the amount of drivers that do this is unreal, there’s going to be a serious crash one day!
Middle lane on approach then should stay left on the roundabout as the left turn has its own lane
By my understanding on the approach there are 2 lane which open to 3 lanes. One (left lane) going left, second middle (straight over) and third (straight over). So since the first lane only goes left, the second can be the lane you pick to go to the left most lane after the first exit. The driver goes to the middle lane which isn’t incorrect as both second and third lane says go straight over. But ideally if you want to go in the middle or right lane you should be in the third lane. That’s why the van overtook him because since the driver was in the second lane he should be following through to the left most lane. Is that correct?
Since you indicate and look at the mirrors, i think there is no problem. Me, as a driver, if i am going in front (straight) i choose the middle one, so, couldn't see any mistake from the learner there.
If you are in the middle lane and the left lane on the approach is only going left then you can assume that the middle lane is the next lane to allow the driver to follow through to the left most lane after the first exit. Rather the driver follows through the middle lane which is ideally where you want to go from the first most lane. Hence why the van overtook him
Entering in the leftmost lane for straight ahead, so choose the leftmost lane for straight once on the roundabout.
You won’t believe how so many “experienced” drivers don’t care about lane discipline on roundabouts. I have to deal with people doing it every morning driving into work. The worst thing is, if they just stayed in the lane I join in they’d come round beautifully and not need to cut in at the last second. They take the right lane instead of the middle, it’s laughable but dangerous.
I see it tell the time 😅😅
Most can't manage lane discipline in a straight line,Doing the speed limit in the passing lane
These lane markings suck. There's no lane split marker onto the roundabout to tell you which lane to follow to as you join the roundabout. You also can turn left from the middle lane if you correctly joined the roundabout however this isn't signposted correctly when you join the roundabout
That was the kind of mistake I made on my test
It’s an easy mistake to make, but at least you’ve learnt from it during a test and not on your own as that could have been much worse
@@ClearviewDriving yeah that so true thank you so much for replying x x x and it was the only major I had (the lane discipline)
Amazing ASMR voice.
I'm a lorry driver and I see this happening literally every day.
People getting the wrong lane at roundabout all the time. I am absolutely staggered there are more accidents.
I see most frequently at motorway junctions. E.g. M4 junction 15 Swindon westbound exit, all three lanes turn right. I'd say 50% of all lorries get this wrong. But it happens everywhere.
You'd expect a lorry driver to not get it wrong eh
I just always stay on the outer lane😅 We have small roundabouts, no point in going to the center lane
Roundabouts are the one thing I always have a problem with
So u go in the middle then left side. What?
the original left lane went to the first exit and so the middle lane became the left lane.
The thing that confuses me is that the original left lane also has marking for straight ahead. So surely you’d be better off staying in the original left lane for both the first and second exits?
I do still am confused about roundabout today and in my opinion is all about old road signs
And you start in the correct lane, but the signs on the road suddenly change half way round
the lane disappears how tf is he not "sticking to his lane"
The lane is the left lane on the roundabout
So from the middle into the left lane and then exit on the left
Left lane before roundabout states left turn or straight. Once you're ON the roundabout, this becomes straight only, hence you still need to keep LHS of the roundabout. I'd be a bit confused here too TBH, Normally they'd add the dotted line leading you onto the correct one but might make it bit messy from markings. 👍🏻
After watching this over and over again I finally got it
If i fail my test its because of this lol.
I don’t get this at all thank god where I live doesn’t have many roundabouts
The road markings are pretty bad lol. This is a very easy mistake to make
Why were the cars stopped on the inside?
Shouldn’t they be in a lane? Not on the shoulder?
The lane markings are hard to follow and the parked vehicles make it seem like the pov driver stayed in the center lane throughout.
Love your voice
Watching this I’m confused, what was the mistake? I know it’s something to do with lane discipline but what actually did they do wrong
The driver was supposed to of moved back into the furthest left lane just after passing the first exit.
The reason why you don't position in the furthest left lane to begin with is because road markings are telling you that it's an immediate left turn.
@@handsomesquidward5160 ok thanks
What's the middle lane on the roundabout for? Would the traffic in the right lane before the roundabout be okay to go in the middle lane?
I think the left faded arrow and lane marking on the roundabout didn't help guide the driver to stay on the outer lane.
The markings on the approach to that roundabout appear to be wrong.
Going round the roundabout there are 3 lanes.
The straight across exit (exit 2) has two lanes.
Counting from left to right, the 3 lanes on the roundabout are:
Roundabout Lane 1 -> Second Exit Lane 1
Roundabout Lane 2 -> Second Exit Lane 2
Roundabout Lane 3 -> Third exit and higher if there are any.
If this is the required routing, then that filter lane on the left for the first exit is wrongly marked and the arrow should indicate both left turn and straight ahead.
So what this driver has done is: go around the roundabout in Lane 2 and exit at junction 2 lane 2 which is the overtaking lane.
Nothing massively wrong in this. Particularly in rush hour when there will be cars in lanes 1 and 2 on the roundabout all coming off in exit 2, lanes 1 and 2. They won't be overtaking lanes in rush hour. They will be just two parallel lanes accommodating the high volume of traffic.
In order to get into Lane 1 at exit 2, he really needs to be in the left turn lane approaching the roundabout and ignore that left turn instruction
OR
Approach the roundabout in the middle lane - as he did, and then as he pulls on to the roundabout immediately change lanes and move to the left most lane on the roundabout - roundabout Lane 1 in my nomenclature I used earlier.
It's not entirely clear in the video which of these would have been best or the right thing to do.
Were you meant to go left lane, to middle lane, to outside lane of the roundabout? They're honestly the hardest part for learning to drive, every roundabout is an adjustment to what a roundabout should be like.
By my understanding on the approach there are 2 lane which open to 3 lanes. One (left lane) going left, second middle (straight over) and third (straight over). So since the first lane only goes left, the second can be the lane you pick to go to the left most lane after the first exit. The driver goes to the middle lane which isn’t incorrect as both second and third lane says go straight over. But ideally if you want to go in the middle or right lane you should be in the third lane. That’s why the van overtook him because since the driver was in the second lane he should be following through to the left most lane. Is that correct?
Your voice👀✨
I’m just confused here, did the learner straight line or the van I dunno what just happened 😂
@@freya1253 but far left lane is for turning left ? Right
Far left lane is for middle lane.
Once you enter , use the left most lane to go straight. Both van and this driver were at wrong
@@nevr9199 this is tricky, the van was OK. The learner after entering roundabout should stick to the lane more to the left
@@zoezebra4013 exactly. He was at wrong for taking the middle lane. I wont blame that person as I had the same difficulty when I saw these crazy roundabouts for the first time.
My main concern is why are there traffic lights at a roundabout
Is this a particularly large roundabout? What is the normal number of lanes for a roundabout?
Why have 3 lanes on that roundabout? Why not make it 2, left lane for straight ahead and left and right lane for straight ahead overtaking lane?
Sorry, I did not understand, he entered the middle lane and basically hand to turn and end up in the left lane? Is that correct? Someone please help and correct me here, thank you
No one going to mention the van? 👀
Is this video aimed at people who don't have a licence? Genuine curiosity.
It's hard to see the road properly in this video, so that makes it harder to see whats going on. Being from a country where road lines and signs are much better I feel English roundabouts are a bit dangerous. But taking a look at the road from Google map, I can see the mistake much better, there was enough room to keep to the left but I can understand that mistaks can happend if you are new in this situation or easyly get confused . But road lines suck big time in many places in England. It's the system's own fault that so many accidents happen. they should make sure lines can be seen better.
I had to watch this 4 times to see what was wrong. There's no lines there.
you enter a roundabout in lane 1 or inside lane and exit in the same lane. How come when your on the roundabout you're in the outside lane?
Thank you 🙏
The lines are on the roundabout to follow, it isn’t difficult, especially if you’re taught correctly.
but my instructor said you just slot into your lane and you dont have to signal so I'm confused now.
edit: oh I'm a bit confused actually, was he supposed to be in the left hand lane?
When approaching the roundabout, he was correctly in the middle lane (straight arrow) but as soon as he entered the roundabout, he should have stayed to the left lane that is turning (there was another left lane for the first exit so moving to that left lane that is turning is just for people turning, not people taking the first exit)
They just wanted to go and not play around when you get in the circle go and don’t mess around
The driver should kept in the middle line to go straight and position the car to the left and slowly so he wouldn’t end up taking other people line
That is very ambiguous lane markings
Very easy to see why driver thought that blue van was moving into his lane, given that van did not follow the car in front, there are no lane markings to provide guidance, and the critical clue that the road marking provides is blocked from view by the van.
Those entry markings are weird. How do you go from the centre lane into the left lane that according to the arrow, doesn't exist, but there are still three lanes in the roundabout. An example of 'need to be familiar'. Need a wider angle
Didn’t the van commit an offence? Secondly the lanes resume after a gap , so why is it an offence when the driver just resumed in the lane and could have switched lane when the markings started , whereas the van sped in to the drivers path ?
After you pass the first exist why you stay in the second line instead in the first line
This seems like total nonsense to me. The van was in the wrong lane approaching the roundabout then rather than suck it up and go right sneaks in right in front of our correct driver on the roundabout.
That looks like a design fault tbf it’s screaming for people who are in a rush to get to work etc to use that left hand lane to go straight on . It’s a island that if you know it your ok if it’s your first time 😬 Love to see how many accidents there have been .
It's designed to increase the flow, Personally I think they should leave things alone,Just two lane's not three,So the left lane would be left or straight ahead and the right lane straight ahead onto the passing lane or turn right.
I done a similar thing on my mock test and I got a dangerous driving fault for that
wrong, there is clear indication in left line which is only for left.
Can this be explained in an easier way?
Who on earth would spot this mistake without the broken lines? Roundabouts are sham.
Can someone please explain what happened? Ad why is a fault? Please
it should be signposted to say the left lane was a MUST turn left. Paintedroad surface arrows alone doesn't make that lane a Must Turn Left lane.
I hate roundabouts! But you know what I love? The place where I live has close to none!
Good tip, thanks
Wait i don't know how to drive left-hand, we drove right hand how does this help me
If it has signals, it is no longer a roundabout.