Confronting Apartheid: A Critical Discussion
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- čas přidán 29. 08. 2024
- This is an edited version of an event that took place on 11 April 2019 in The Hague at the International Institute of Social Studies of Erasmus University Rotterdam, involving panellists Professor John Dugard, Shawan Jabarin (@alhaq_org), Adri Nieuwhof (@steketeh) and Ronnie Barkan (@ronnie_barkan), moderated by Jeff Handmaker (@DrJDHandmaker).
Please note that for technical reasons the video recording ended prematurely during the very last round of answers.
I am so amazed that when discussing 1947, Ronnie considers Jews as European colonizers while the Arab migrants from the Arabian Peninsula, Egypt, and Levant who moved to the land in the 19th century as indigenous people of Palestine. Doesn't he know that Jews originated from the ancient Judea before it became called Palestine?
There are more strange things. Israel claims that it has bought the land from its Turkish/Ottoman rulers while parallel to that denies anybody but the Jews the right to own „Jewish land“. So, how could they buy it?
I jumped forward to 32:23, where al Haq says the Israeli goal is purify Palestine of all designated persons, and the other panelists are congratulating themselves for maintaining their cool, not reacting in the slightest. As soon as you see you are being used, you must interrupt the use, never mind if it's ab-use, mis-use, re-use. "Love people, use things." If you let the other person use you, you are using the other person.
10:41, so this whole hour and a half is an examination of terminology carried over from South Africa to Palestine. Is this a cover-up, a distraction, one of the rings of defense built around so-called Israel by its patrons? I liken Israel to a pirate ship. Europe widely construed has given this pirate ship certain papers, "letters of marque", so Israel is their pirate ship. And they don't want to talk about it. I was thinking to sit and wait to hear what Ronnie says, to see if he disrupts this event like he did some MK's lecture in Berlin for which he's been in court recently. I might yet do that. I scrolled across the time-bar under the picture, seeing little thumbnail still photos of the event, and I didn't see Ronnie jumping up on the table or throwing papers.
9:50, I would call the situation of so-called Palestinians in so-called Israel slavery. Albeit they are owned by the collective, but they are property.
Tell me from where those SJW and i tell you who they own country killed, expelled or occupied. And if Israel expelled all Palestinians: Where from those numbers: "According to Israel's Central Bureau of Statistics, the Arab population in 2019 was estimated at 1,890,000, representing 20.95% of the country's population." ? They are by the way have same origin with the population of West bank, Gaza and refugee camp Palestinians.
They have the same rights with Jewish and have they own political parties and representatives in Knesset. By the way they have only the same rights but a lot less responsibilities, that Jewish citizens of Israel.
@@bellamc6108 Excuse me but : By 1948, the population had risen to 1,900,000, of whom 68% were Arabs, and 32% were Jews (UNSCOP report, including Bedouin). en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographic_history_of_Palestine_(region) Do we "kicked out" all the Arabs 20 times? And among Arabs are Druze and Bedouin, Druze on Israel side from before 1948 and Bedouin like Druze serve in IDF. So 68% from 1.9M is 1.290.000 minus Druze and Bedouin, minus those who still live in their houses and now it's 20% of Israel citizens. Who have all the rights an 17 members in knesset: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Arab_members_of_the_Knesset .
When you people will learn to check facts and stop listen to all this crap? :)
You know what? Don't buy books send money to Gaza=Hamas, on this money they will buy more weapons and rockets and will kill more Israel children. I was 18 years old when suicide bomber made minced meat from dozens of 15-16 years old children witch came to dolphinarium club in Tel Aviv. And SJW like you partially paid for this bomb.
You taking about Brits? ))) Read about British Empire, they genocide nations in Africa and terrorized India for centuries. And have you heard about opium wars in China?
After Jews where almost completely genocide in Europe, by the way if you from wester Europe your parents may be were part of it. They came to place were they originally came from and it's proven by archaeological founds and yes most of the Jews came those days from Europe after WWII. And then there was no country at all. When the Brits left, started a war and in war there is refugees. And yes Arab countries leaders told them to leave, so they can come back after they will kill all the Jews. So partially they left by them selfs. How many were kicked out, how many fled from war and how many left by them selfs, i don't know. May be you will do a research ?
A story always has a lot of sides, don't be and idiot and learn history. There is never only black and white in the world, the world is colorful.