86 Eighty Six - Details And Symbolism You Missed - Season 1 Part 3 (Episode 23 Analysis)
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- Details, Symbolism, and Themes from 86 Eighty Six, the season finale.
EIGHTY SIX 86 Season 1 Climax and Conclusion
Episode 23 - Handler One
In this video, I do an in-depth analysis and break down all of the symbolism, details, the director's brilliant vision and direction.
Warning, anime-only spoilers. Please do NOT put LN spoilers in the comments. Content from episode 22 will be released as a standalone video in the future.
Timestamps:
0:00 Intro
0:39 Contrast
1:21 Nina
2:06 Three Stooges
2:34 Republic
3:02 Colonel's Office
4:07 General's Room
4:27 Lena's Grief
5:14 Bird Symbolism
5:47 Alba vs 86
6:21 86 days
6:52 Fido's Montage
8:48 Right to Left
10:05 Comparison
10:55 Railway
11:28 Kurena
11:57 Hiroyuki Sawano
12:43 Avid vs LilaS
13:21 LilaS Meaning
14:51 Memes
15:24 Credits
Shinei Nouzen and VladiLena Milize's meeting is hands down, peak anime in 2022.
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I found an extra bit of symbolism that some of you might have missed. The duration of this video is 16:52.
What's 16 + 52? Answer is 68.
68 means nothing. However, if you read the number like you do a manga, from left to right, (or you know... if you simply just flip the numbers around). 68 turns to 86.
👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿Well done @ctrlaltQQ 😁👍🏿
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Damn, I meant to say "right to left," not "left to right." 🤦🏿♂😤
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You can also see Alice in the Grave area at 4;49 she from the comic died 2143
So they really have all the names and tbh when It was far away it probably had different names and didn’t blur
It out
This anime is the best thing that has ever happened and the director deserves all the praise and worship. Your analysis videos are amazing, and I hope to see more in the future.
Honestly, I feel that 86 is CRIMINALLY OVERLOOKED😢
Agreed. Best anime I've seen in the last 3 years. This anime should be shown in school.
Its really funny how a stupid comedy show is now ranked one, instead of more meaningful, masterpiece shows like 86.
@@tShuka_ mm while I think 86 should easily have a score *way above 9,* I disagree with you about Kaguya Sama, both are *very different* works so I can't compare them but imo Kaguya Sama is a masterpiece as well. It is not just a "stupid comedy anime".
@@carlosdanielcalderonmontoy3723 it would've been 9/10 but the regular anime watchers wouldnt notice small details like these
14:53 IMAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
So true, so true. The song analysis part nearly made me cry
That was the best use of the bird I’ve ever seen. I almost died🤣🤣
Bro i thanked sawano san.. i loved lilas and avid.. thanks also for that one man who made 86 AMV with avid.. that really introduce me to this beautiful anime..
I cried watching that amv even tho i never watch this anime.. so great job editor 😊 you made me watch the whole thing
11:35 oh Kurena... your ship NEVER even left the harbor
E M O T I O N A L D A M A GE
Ngl, this anime is truly the anime of the year on every anime social media, unlike crunchyroll turned into a popularity award though. The story, cinematography, allegories, and the direction of the series were unique and well effort they've put in despite the circumstances they faced. Right now, watching it for the 4th time, this time on netflix. Lastly, LilaS has other meaning also, "Lena is looking after Shin"
I am now waiting for season 2 with the rest of you! Maybe one day!
Let's goo ! ! !
I HOPE!!!!
came from the stream?
cool! is there a vod?
@ctrlaltQQ , the vid is up on CZcams now, clipped and uploaded on G.O.T Clips channel managed by one of his mods, Skid.
czcams.com/video/iWBk7YflES0/video.htmlsi=CyM6vmQNUH1rRLym
The ending is Perfect IMO, Like usually anime made me cry because sad things happen like when a certain character is death, parting away, or frustated. But this one is rare, The Characters Attachment is very strong, I cried because they finally can meet each other. "A Happy End?" "Bittersweet?" perfectly executed.
Make Me excited to see another season and yet I'm scared of it..
Exactly my thought, like I was so scared when the group get separated chasing the Morpho the first time I watched it... But hey Asato is gonna get you for a hell of ride after the anime part tho... like the world she builded is really a no joke... you can feel the fk legion war
It's a rare one indeed
Some more meaning that you didn't mention.
Lena is indeed in Jerome's office when she receives her unit roster. In fact, we see his boots left on the desk. In the previous video, you noted that when he meets Lena for the final time, his boots are more weathered and damaged. That's because he switches out his usual ceremonial uniform for his old combat uniform.
Also, Lena's reaction upon seeing her unit roster is not just suspicion, but also apprehension and disbelief. In the meeting with her superior, we learn her assignment is to work with the Federacy to clear out the remaining Legion in the Republic's territory. But her unit, called the 86th Strike Package, is clearly comprised of former 86. While we the audience know why the Federacy is doing this, Lena is concerned why the Federacy would let a San Magnolian Alba lead an unit comprised of former 86. It's as if things aren't changing despite the fall of the Republic.
This misunderstanding leads to Lena reflecting on Jerome's words, about buying her time until her naive, idealistic dream shatters. Yet, while she's thinking about her dream, and asking her uncle to give her a little more time before she gives up on it, we switch the to graffiti on the welcome sign. So rather than shattering, her dream "will come true."
You explained it even better than I did, bravo! I didnt understand her words to Jerome when she said until her dreams shatter
You are born too late to explore the world
You are born too early to explore the star
But you born at the right time to see this masterpiece
that was quite the comment :)
Aye thanks for watching Part 3!! I know everyone's been waiting a long time for this one, I hope you liked it. Please share and like this video! Technically I made it in time within 86 days since I uploaded it on 6/13/22, but CZcams didnt finish processing it until 6/14/22 but who cares! Drop a comment, let me know what you think. I love all of your comments.
Edit: Lots of people saying Jerome is Lena's uncle from her mother's side, but here's my observation: "Uncle" is a common thing in the east where they call everyone oji-san, related or not. Jerome never called Lena's father has her brother or brother in law. Lena calls him Oji-san, which can be translated as like a term for an older man, which was translated to uncle but it doesnt really mean uncle in the family sense
so another 86 days for Episode 22 showcase?
@@ninovalenzuela1019 whenever I finish. I need a break though
I m confused🤔❓
why you uploaded the video on ep 23 before ep 22
@@hiborz9705 Did you watch me talk at the end? I explain it there
@@ctrlaltQQ i m watching in the moment. For some reason i paused it, now again continuing
I found another fact in the songs. I read the light novels, and I notice that Avid is from Lena's perspective, and even says things that she says, but later, that is, that at the moment they have only happened in the novels and not in the anime. Just as Voices of the Chord, which could be taken as Avid in English, has completely different lyrics, and as with Lena, this one is from Shin's point of view, and says things that, at the moment, it only happen in the light novels.
Wait so the ed songs were spoilers all along? Damn that's clever as fuck cuz we'd only focus on bopping to the music.
oh god oh shit it's time to cry again
this show and dororo hit in the feeling and let me with a smiles in the end, both got a strong women mio and anju, a story with meaning i cant no ask for more.
Have you/are you reading the LNs? If not I highly recommend them. I had read all the follow on volumes (available in English) but was still utterly amazed at what the anime accomplished. It is, beyond any doubt, the finest translation from LN to anime I have ever experienced. I have been watching anime/reading source material since the Space Battleship Yamato/Starblazers days (I am definitely giving away my age here) and have never been this impressed. I would guarantee that if you were to read on (and the LNs are absolutely fantastic) you will not be disappointed. I just hope that when/if they continue this anime it will be under the same directorial/production team as I feel only they could do it justice.
I'm waiting for the YEN Press reprint, the physical LN are sold out / scalped on the secondary market lol. But I was really busy with creating these, I didnt have time. When my schedule frees up a bit more I'll eventually get to it though. I agree with what you said, the source is good but the adaptation took it further.
@@ctrlaltQQ if you want some advice getting these books check as many Barnes and nobles there are some with load of them I used my vacations to find the early prints when the issues were a pain to find the first time
Finally, after 2 months, part 3 has arrived
86 days later 😂
@@ctrlaltQQ Yea, sure thing you would release it after 86 days. Who could ever expected xD
@@huyluong9263 just like the production committee right?
Thank you. There is so much beauty in this that it is nearly impossible to capture it all. Your efforts have been a gift, so thank you.
To tie in with Theo's comparison, Kurena has a big turn around as well that was not fully explored. In the beginning she basically lumped Lena in the same group as war criminals (witnessing the execution of her parents as 'entertainment' target practice while they were entering the camps) and outright hates her. Throughout their time in Spearhead she strongly rejects Lena more than anyone else until the end. In the shower scene it is Kurena that voices concern about how what will happen to them will scar Lena (with Anju's physical scars becoming highlighted) as she is near a nervous breakdown trying to keep them going when they are about to be sent out to be exterminated.
In the battle with the Legionized Rei, not only does Lena and Kurena work together to save Shin by putting precision artillery rounds on target they trust each other completely with the other four Spearhead member's lives to do so, with Lena whispering in Kurena's ear that she does not want Shin to die either. That word 'either' acknowledging, if unintended, that Shin being very important to each of them ties them together. Later in the Federacy, it is Kurena that breaks out in tears that Lena is alive. Even though she sees each other as rivals for Shin, she welcomes Lena openly and gladly as Lena is where she belongs. Not with the Alba but with the 86.
In the photo, she has her foot between Shin and Lena, yet she's also making space for her with Shin at one hand and herself on the other. Both are standing with Lena at this point but also forming a triangle. This position shows one of blocking Lena's advancement, yet also stepping aside as her right hand is behind Lena as if to usher her forward into her place. Later on in the novels, Kurena reaches a point where she tells Lena that she hates losing Shin to anyone but her. A person she once said she would never forgive, as that would be forgiving the crimes against her family: the murder of her parents and her older sister's death. Yet, as the Spearhead 5 are adopted on paper this implies that should things work out Kurena accepts Lena as a future part of her family and a surviving older sister.
Yeah very well said. I hate to say it, but Kurena is very underrated, everyone just seems to brush her aside as just a comic relief immature little sister whereas in actuality she's much more than that. But then again none of the surviving members besides Shin has got much screen time in the anime, even Frederica who was only introduced in cour 2 got way more screen time and development compared to all four of them combined, which is kinda frustrating.
I can definitely see how much passion you've put into this video, and also how much you admire this series as much as we all do. Thank you for pointing out the details!
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Yikes. Almost crying on the bus in Austin on my way to work.
Stunning video, magnificent work. I could watch you tear out meanings all day, but 86 will always remain inspiring and heart aching.
I am stupedously grateful for efforts like this which deepen and extend my enjoyment of media.
I really like this series of videos. Eighty Six is an anime with TONS of little details in the background, it's evident the staff was really dedicated to make the best experience for the watchers. I can't wait for the next season, I hope they take their time to make it as good as the first one (or even better!)
Also, second best girl is Anju? you're a person of culture
Wait will it really have a season 3???
Wow this is excellently done. Usually these types of “hidden details” videos just contain some of the most obvious, basic “Easter eggs” that anyone could easily find. But this shows a deep analysis and attention to detail to things that you really wouldn’t notice unless you really were paying extra close attention.
After I watched this anime recently it holds the top spot on my favourite animes. There have been so many shows, movies and animes that have the main characters speak to each other but never meet up and it enraged me so when 86 did it it filled a void in me and I can die happy. The background piano music of the final song in this video also made me cry and I was on the morning train to school
86 had become one of my favorite animes after its first part release…..your videos make me love it so much more. The anime itself made me cry. And now understanding some of the symbolism makes me cry even more. Keep up the great work!
I'm mind-blown how an anime so good is so underrated, I found it by accident while searching for another anime, it's one of the best things that I came across this year.
thank you for showing all the magnificent bits I never noticed while watching the show. You did such an amazing job outlining the heart and the soul of this beautiful anime. I'll definitely give 86 a rewatch, keeping all the symbolism in mind I learned of, watching your 3 parts. Cheers and love from Germany
Do the German names from the show have any meaning I missed?
@@ctrlaltQQ I don't think so but I can only think of the legion names at the moment and those are all named after animals. Well now that I think about it the Löwe (Lion) is also the name of a nazi concept tank but the show has tons of analogies to world war II I mean the republic might as well be nazi germany killing off all the foreigners.
Ameisen (wich is the german plural) are ants. I'm not sure which of these appeared in the anime but german Legion names that are listen in the wiki as well are:
Stier - bull
Stachelschwein - porcupine
biene and skorpion - bee and scorpion
especially the stachelschwein was kind of interesting to me as machinery is usually named after domestic animals to visualize a purpose or function. Porcupines however have no historical meaning or connection to germany as they only live in Africa as far as I know.
Regarding Character names:
Josef and Henrietta are old german names. Von Penrose however, is definitely not a german family name. Nina is a fairly common name here but you'll find Ninas everywhere in the world. Ernst Zimmerman is an interesting one. Ernst is also a pretty old german name but the family name is either americanized or misspelled as Zimmermann (carpenter) is a common family name in germany and I know quite a few people called Zimmermann. Never with a single N though. Richard is common in Germany as well as in the UK. Altner is a Bavarian family name. Not sure about it's origin but it was probably given to old folks at the time (lol). Willem Ehrenfried is definitely a name you could have found in Germany. Like 500 years ago it sounds pretty outdated but still German. Ehrenfried means peace and justice. Really fits a soldier.
That should cover about everything "german" I could find on the wiki. To be honest I try to ignore most of the german stuff in Anime because they use the wrong grammar 95% of the time and it can be painful to listen to.... Don't even get me started on German incantations oh boy the japanese sure find german words chained together in weird ways magical and mystical.
86 is truly a masterpiece. I think this analisys videos are the best in the youtube. Can't wait for more. Thank you.
Thank you so much for covering this. The last two episodes were not only masterpieces, they were above and beyond what anyone expected. I always come back to the last two eps from time to time so that I can remind myself how truly phenomenal this series was.
Appreciate your analysis and this show's insane attention to detail
This was so good!!! Love the bit about LilaS where you translated the lyrics for us + aligned the music with the scene!
another tidbit I wanted to point out which could be nothing, but in the final moments of their hands straying towards each other, Shin is on the right of the screen and Lena is on the left. When they're hands form the numbers it's Shin's left hand and Lena's right. A bit of symbolism (in that because most of the world is right hand dominant and thus is the hand that would primarily wield weapons) the right hand is often the hand of "War" and the left is the hand of "Peace" as in Kung Fu the courteous way to show respect is to place an open left hand over a closed right fist as the left hand denotes peace and restraint while the right is your martial art, signifying there is peace and restraint over my power.
Shin is on the right of the screen. Shin was the one who began in war and strife.
Lena is on the left of the screen. Lena is the one who began in peace and civilization.
When their hands come together it is Shin's left hand. Shin has finally learned peace. Lena extends her right hand. She has learned of war.
amazing analysis video, thank you
This video is so well-made
The Video We've All Been Waiting For!
One again love the vid ! PRAY for a new season !!!
Magnificent work ! I will spread it.
I was eagerly waiting for this video to come out
did you really have to get me emotional again? great video man.
Thank you for the incredible analysis! :)
the attention to firearms are also insane. ive never seen an anime charecter use a decocker(drops the firearms hammer). its so little, but during target practice with cans, shin shoots the 5 cans, just before he puts it back in his hilster, you can see his thumb move, hit the decocker and the hammer drop.
This video made me appreciate this show even more. Thank you!
One of the best breakdowns I've seen, amazing stuff my friend!
great video as always! thanks for taking the time to analyze this wonderful series, we appreciate it
I aPpreciate the videos. Watched till the end. Was a nice journey
impecable work as always man. incredible analysis. keep it up!
Hey man, just wanna let you know I’m definitely that other 14% who sat through the entirety of your 3 videos. Your findings just boost my love for this anime even more when it’s already among the best I’ve ever seen.
The story telling and characters are nothing short of phenomenal. The way this series tackles political issues amazes me. Lena is especially relatable for me in the way she despises all the propagandas of her country and her desire to seek unity.
The music of this anime is brilliant and I can say the same for the director.
Thanks for giving us these beautiful details about this anime. 86 is truly a story worthy a lifetime of memories
Hey thanks for the comment. Consider subbing, I do have some more videos planned but havent finished it
The three videos are absolutely amazing, thank you for making this. In literal tears with the lilas part
Bro I’ve been waiting this for so long! Thank you!
broo you are soo good this video is so underrated we need more people.
Amazing video. Thank you for showing me how much care and attention the creators put into 86. 86 is and will always be my favorite.
These videos make me love this show even more, keep up the good work. Easily one of my favorite animes.
ahhhh this was so good!!!! the symbolism blows my mind!! the writers are actually cracked at how they intricately thought out everything I cant wait for more videos and the return of the anime!
That song breakdown hits hard. Thanks for explaining that!
thank you for making these vids; theyre great in inking the sketches from my memories of the show and im super grateful that you picked out and shared all these details in fellow appreciation for this work
i love you so much for these 86 videos bro, thank you
YOOOOOOO this was insane, I was looking at all the detail while watching the show knowing it to be deep, but there's still so much i missed. thanks!
Masterclass analysis ❤ this makes me pumped to write ❤
Great video, yesterday I was going to the lyrics of LilaS and I notice how the song is basically them telling their feeling at that moment but what i was missing is how perfectly timed the that scene is with the song.
Kudos for your time in making this video.
Parts 1-3 were a great watch. Fantastic videos. Subscribed!
Wow thank you! I never realized the lyrics matched the meeting of both shin and lena. Makes the whole scene more beautiful.
wow i've been waiting 86 days LOL but so well worth the wait!! loved the analysis now i gotta rewatch the series :,)
Awesome video bro you use the right words to describe the masterclass that is 86 thanks!
It was worth the wait; this journey made feel glad to be alive. And all these little details show how much care and passion the staff put in the work; thanks for the video I really apreciate it.
absolutely a fantastic vid, almost made me cry remembering the 1st time i watched
It was a long time, but it's definitely worth the wait just like ep 22 and 23. Hope to see more from you and 86
15:43 I like the detail you put at the end of the video with the morpho ost like in the first season finale, great video
This can be so far the deepest detail analysis video that I ever been watched, thank you..
Thanks for these videos man, great analysis! Underrated anime and underrated channel
Great video man holy crap I missed a lot of these little details. The Director of this show was so good, the extra effort can really be seen on a rewatch.
Blew my mind! This show really is a masterpiece. Thanks for pointing all of it, the song meaning was what really blew my mind.
Honestly, your content is mindblowing and heartwarming. Kudos to 86's creator and animation team for all these crazy details.
Great videos, loved the care and inclusion of scenes/music makes it have more impact. Muh heart. Let’s hope for s2 with Ishii/sawano again.
One of the finest videos i watch this year. I love it. I hope part 4 with chapter 22 comes out soon.
Your analysis of the details of this anime have given me a newfound appreciation for one of my favorite shows of all time. You deserve way more subscribers if you look at the great quality of this video! Incredible job!
the song explaining made me cry much bro, you did well
great video my brother
Incredible analysis as always!!! Your 86 videos are so amazing. Looking forward to part 4 where you dive into episode 22😁
I loved this series ! Would love to see you do more content like this about other anime you are enthusiastic about 🙏🏻
Good timing. I just binged through all of 86 in the past few weeks. You could tell from just watching the series that there were a lot of "show don't tell" moments, but I went through all your 3 videos here and I'm amazing on how many more details I missed! Thank you for making these!
This show definitely deserves more attention (and another season :) )
Truly a great analysis.
Finally a video series w/o ms voice, thanks for the upload!
tysm for hype me up and raise appreciation for the greatest work of art there’s! enjoyed the series and your review/decomposition!
ps cant wait for ln volumes 5 & 6 i ordered to arrive🥲
this is the best complete in-depth analysis and attention to details great work, due to this I even added this to my one of the best anime overall hoping that it make's another season reference to light novel
I learn Japanese from college, and when first time hear LilaS, I'm so sad and happy at same time
I've finally watched all episodes of the anime, and I am genuinely amazed. It's really one of those really REALLY great anime that deserves more praise and attention.
Your video series about the details made me understand more, and appreciate the director's huge efforts on this anime.
That also includes your videos as well. Well directed and phased especially parts of conveying the details and ost choices for those moments. Thanks for the videos.
This is currently my best video on youtube. Thank you.
Oh my, the Lilas lyric timing is absolutely perfect! This just elevates the scene even higher for me!
Amazing man
that last part of comparing the lyrics with the actual anime slides. that made me cry. you sir have earned my subscription!
Passion can be literally felt throughout the anime and it's strong
I'll be waiting for your Part-4 video and also 86 Season 3.
Bro been waiting for part 3 glad its finally here
All three parts were great analysis videos.
Great video just great
Thank you this was really great.
Thanks you so much😭❤️
Ahh yes thank you for part 3
86 deserves more attention from everyone 😭 absolutely best anime for 2022
love your videos with 86.
genuinely a fire video oh my god
Holy... every single part made my jaw drop. I knew this show was brewing with details, but I didn't know there were this many! Fantastic work, you made me appreciate this show EVEN MORE.
P.S LilaS still hits right in the feels.
only found this video today but I wanted to say thank you so much for all the work and research you did to make this. I never realized there was so much details and symbolism hidden in so few episodes and this video was so informative.
I’m majoring in film and the way you executed this video was basically perfect in my eyes. From the presentation, pacing, and execution it was amazing. Thank you so much for this gift to the 86 anime fandom.
You even went through the trouble to present how the music matched the ending scene. I really appreciate this series and hope to see more videos like this from you sir. I feel like this expands my enjoyment of the series as a whole.
86 from a filmmaking perspective is like a wet dream. The music, the transitions, the sheer vast amount of different techniques used is unbelievable.
Amazing work on the entire series. Love the passion, the explanation and the editing, you're truly doing justice to this great anime.
I appreciate the acknowledgement, the editing does takes forever to put together