Acoustic vs Digital Pianos: Differences in Mechanism and Muscles Types that Help Control the Keys.
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- This is Chapter 1 of the mini-series of videos about the differences between playing on Digital vs Acoustic pianos. I have divided it into two big parts: Action and Sound differences. Will be 3 chapters in each. Editing the Sound part now, will post soon!😃
I have had much experience lately playing on both types, so I have decided to make this video for all of you, who are curious about this topic, I have had many questions come my way about this. The idea of the videot was suggested to me by one of you, my youtube friends @aBachwardsfellow, many thanks !!! 🙏🏻🙂
I hope you find it useful and informative. I apologize if my explanation is not very scientific, it is just my personal interpretation of the differences between the two types if instrument and what I adjust when playing on one or the other.
Please watch all the chapters for the fullest overview! 🤓
Thanks for watching, as always! and leave your comments below!
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Talking about control and comfortable level, I feel my aunt's old Kawai babygrand > my ES120 digital > my upright piano at home.
And that friction part is so right! Digital keyboards are often slippery and more difficult to play something like Chopin Op10 no4.
Have been enjoying your videos, Daria. I have the P515 (my workhorse for gigging) but am getting back to playing on grand pianos recently (Steinways) and have been struggling on some aspects of my classical playing. Just need to be more aware of it. Thanks again, keep up the good work!
Thanks so much for your feedback, Bobby! Nice to meet a fellow musician👍🏻 Yes, indeed it is not easy coming back into an acoustic grand world after a long time with the keyboard, but it gets easier and easier the more you play on acoustics😃
That's an interesting subject to probe. Excellent work, great presentation. Thank you! Subscribed
Thank you so much, Fábio! 🙏🏻🎹👩🏻🏫
Dear Daria,
thank you so much for in-depth review of accoustic vs digital pianos. So far I've seen so many reviews but yours is really so much more than just reciting technical information from the manufactorer.
Especially the part where you explained how you slipped keys on the digital with holding your hand like you do on an accoustic gave me some deeper understanding of the matter.
What I especially liked is also the fact that you give an insight for practice - most reviews are based on "performance".
So I would really like to see more content from the viewpoint of piano learners (even beginners).
For our children who have started learning piano for about 2 years now, we start to have some issue with neighbours regarding noise. Currently we're using a Kawai K15 (built 2009) and I'm thinking of a digital piano as a supplement (not having clarified yet where to place it...maybe childrens room?).
As our children are still developing their muscles and holding their hand position - do you think it might be worth it?
Thank you so much again for your video series. I'm going to watch the technical tutorials too :-) Please keep up doing so good work. (Sorry for the long comment - but I couldn't find any email contact data...).
Hello Sydney, thank you for the nice words about my videos and for your comment! Sorry, it took a while to answer. I am glad you children have an acoustic piano to learn on!! It is always the best, to have a good acoustic. In regards to a supplemental keyboard, if it can be used in addition to acoustic, to avoid the neighbors issue, I understand and do not discouraged you. It is good to keep in mind those differences and to mainly practice on the acoustic, so they develop a solid grip on it while they young. and maybe use the digital to learn the music and to practice the essential stuff amd simple movements. But for improving technique and nuanced playing I would stick with acoustic for those practice times.
Of course I recommend getting a very good digital piano, woth weighted amd graded keys. Depending on your budget, you could get a Kawai CA series. Or a portable ES 8 or es 920 ( I heard good things about this model, but haven't tried it myself ) if you prefer the Kawai sound.
I don't usually share my email, since I don't have a business one. But you can contact me directly on Instagram if you have a question about something if I can help. The account is dariafortepiano.
Best of luck!
This was a lot of information but very valuable. You illumined the subject in a very detailed way, mentioned much detailed knowledge and your presentation had a high quality to it both the different camera angles and also the content. I learned a lot new things about this subject and you taught many important technical details that others that discussed the same subject didn't mention or didn't demonstrate. This video sparked my interest to check out more of your videos.
Thank you very much for your interest in my videos and for leaving valuable feedback, I appreciate it! Glad it was helpful to you!
I am really enjoying your videos. You are very generous with your knowledge. Thank you so much.
Thank you for leaving a comment! I am glad you enjoy my videos!😊
Daria, what a video! My 10 year old has shown amazing gifts with classical piano. We moved from the US to a small apartment in europe and sold our Kawai grand, to be near an amazing conservatory. We purchased what we thought was a "high end" yet portable keyboard, the Casio PXS7000. Various salespeople said the casio would be exactly like an acoustic in 96% of situations, and only when he reached the highest of levels would he 'outgrow' it and need an acoustic. But his instructor says it is insufficient😢 He actually wants to teach our son to play using the muscles of his arms as well as hands, something he says not many pianists focus on. He says learning to use the wrong muscles with a keyboard risks long term injury (carpal tunnel), much like a poor tennis racquet causing tennis elbow. He also wants our son to feel the moment the hammer stikes the string. I want to believe this is overblown. I don't care if he plays Lizst and beetoven....hes a 2nd year pianist and hes 10! Do I need to spend thousands more dollars, have a crane hoist an acoustic piano into our tiny apartment and infuriate our neighors with the noise, just so these tiny muscles get the "best" workout. Am i ruining him? Will he be forever damaged as a musician? Or is this small difference blown out of proportion?
I'm deciding to buy expensice Kawai CA701 and have the same worries. Would it be great investment? O should I look at good but used upright that is cheaper?
I am very impressed with your videos and your understanding of both acoustic and digital piano. Many (if not the most of) very good pianists do not have an idea how the pianos are build and the differences between different digital piano actions.
Yeah, your are absolutely right: total majority of teachers don't take into account the mechanism of keyboards and prefer to buy the model only relying on brand and attractive cabinet design.
Thank you so much for your comment! I am so sorry, I forgot to reply so long ago. Thank you for your feedback, I do think it's just natural to have an interest in how the instrument and its varieties are build and how they function, since we play on it, for me. But not everyone does. Some people just play:)
Great Video! Thank you. Makes me tend even more towards the Kawai CA line of digital pianos. Just because of the keybed with its long wooden keys.
Glad it was helpful for you!)
Thank you for the great piece of information on the GrandTouch S keybed (CLP 745). Would it be possible for you to mention the approximate length of the white keys in the 745, i.e. the distance of the edge of the key to its balance point (fulcrum)?
That is so true what you stated here. I am a working pianist. I do play both types of pianos. I have been asked by a lot of people these questions as they hear that I am a working pianist. Well, number 1 I have been playing piano all of my life and grew up in a family of musicians. So when people here that I am a working pianist they ask me about what pianos I like playing. I have been asked on my way to work sometimes and in general by people in conversation well, if I play both types acoustic and digital which ones do I like playing the most. Depends what I am doing. Honestly my favorite is the digital because I guess I can control a lot of functionality and get creative. Now as far as performing I love the acoustic baby grand which I play on gigs. I have a digital piano at home and the other question from people that I get asked quite a bit is aren’t both the pianos the same? And my answer to this question is even after playing pianos for all these years as good as the digitals have gotten it is like comparing driving a car and flying a plane. When you fly a plane it is not the same as driving a car. Or steam train versus deicel train. Sure. Both pianos have weighted keys but as you stated. You have to make adjustments if you are going to play both pianos. Now the pianists who do just play one piano for example the acoustic and only play acoustic well, they are comfortable and they hve the control. They pretty much know every time what the piano is going to feel like. Now every acoustic is a bit different and I know this because each one plays a bit different and also as we know they all sound different as well. Some are bright sounding where as some others may bee mello. Well, the acoustic piano you get to hear and feel things that you wouldn’t feel on a digital. That is why I tell people please!!!! Do not start on a digital. Yes. They are less expensive than the acoustic but that is not the thing. You need to bee able to feel what is going on through your hands and feet. You need to bee able to learn to have the control over your piano. When a person can master the acoustic piano and have a bit of an understanding then the digital is just another thing to work on. If you play an acoustic and then go to play on a digital you really do have to adjust how you play the piano. Their is a mindset too as you are not just having to adjust your thinking on the play and the action and control but the things you do on a digital are very different than on an acoustic piano. For example. When I am at work or playing the piano at a gig I can really concentrate on performing and my performance. Yes I have to watch what i am doing and having control. Now when I am done working and I go home and play the digital my thinking has to change. What does it really feel like to play a digital after playing an acoustic??? It is different. After feeling those viberations and movements of the key play and pedals feeling and hearing sounds from the natural sound board with a digital you have to learn to hold the key in a way that you get the sound and control. When you sit down at the digital you are not going to have and feel the viberations nor the action like you would on the acoustic. Basically everything is pretty much silent with a digital. You do not hear the pedals really unless you have a bad pedal system and that is when you need to replace parts. You will feel some viberations only if you are playing some synth patches that create sound wave viberations. Really but the piano is not going to play like a 9 foot grand. You get the alution that the piano sounds like a 9 foot full sized concert grand. The piano mimics or emulates the acoustic piano. With a digital I can say this much. I have to use more force on it than the acoustic pianos that I play on the job. If I play the piano at work I notice sometimes that I am a bit loud because of my heavy hand so their we go. I have to quickly make adjustments when I switch. You can do more than one thing with a digital piano though. That is the upside of it. If you want more instruments to join you you don’t have to try and get others to join you. You can bee a whole band or orchestra yourself. Where as an acoustic piano you are only able to do so much. If I play a piece on an acoustic and then go and play the same piece on a digital it is going to have a compleetly different feell. People sometimes will ask is a digital the same as playing an acoustic because they are both pianos. And my answer to that is no. You are talking about 2 compleetly different pianos and they are 2 different beasts. I don’t care how fancy the digitals get they will never ever play exactly like an acoustic grand. An acoustic is an acoustic. And a digital is a digital. They are both real true pianos but it just so happens that one piano is a lot different than the other. The other thing is to the other piano is longer than the other. I can say that acoustic pianos certainly have their place in this world that a digital can’t replace such as in a concert haul. You won’t see a digital piano in a classicial concert hall. You are going to see either a baby grand or you are going to see the full sized big concert grands. And plus both types of pianos have a very different purpose. One which is the acoustic has the purpose of performing and playing with class. You are performing in front of people. As to a digital piano you, are more less creating and making music and the piano is giving you the tools to do that. A lot of your music today comes from digital pianos, keyboards, and synthesizers. So when you play both types of pianos you really need to know what to do and bee able to switch brain power. Saying in your brain. “Alright. This is an acoustic. I need to play this way.” Shifting to a digital piano your thinking is this. “Alright this is a digital piano. I have to play this way, and control the keys this way.” The feeling of playing both instruments is rewarding. To say that you can play both types of pianos is pretty cool. Some pianists that only play one type don’t have that reward to say they can play both. Those of us that do play both though,,, it is a conversation starter. Totally different feeling and totally different beasts. The other thing is is that one piano needs more care than the other. The upside of a digital is that no matter how cold or warm your home or place of work is the piano will not lose its tune. With the acoustic you need to tune it every so often about 1 time or 2 times per year. Also replacing hammers and strings if they break. Well, with a digital you don’t have to worry about that unless a key gets broken. Also the down side of a digital piano is lets say in the winter time if you are playing it and the power goes out you are screwed. You just have to ride it out till the power company can get the power turned back on. Also the clunky keys when you are practicing under headsets. Yes. The piano is quiet but others around you can hear just clunking noises. So a digital piano is actually very verssital but clunky. But at least you can practice late at night if you need. Digitals are very easy to maintain and they are low maintenance. Acoustic are very high maintainence. But it is a reward to play them and if you can keep them up maintained you are good for years and years. Also. The body of a digital piano is way way shorter than that of an acoustic grand. The reason is is that as you and I know with the digital it doesn’t need all that body because their are no strings attached. Pardon the pun. With an acoustic piano you had better check your space before putting a piano where you would like. The digital does take up some space but not at all like that of an acoustic piano. Also piano benches. Usually with an acoustic piano you will find a large bench usually and i am talking about in a concert hall. It varies from piano to piano at home or other places of residents. Usually with an acoustic piano you have a full sized piano bench that can hold 2 people if you wanted. Really not good though if you are playing professional because you need that space on the bench to lean. And you need to sit in the center. Now usually on a digital piano you are not going to see a very long piano bench. It is going to bee shorter. It is going to bee a smaller bench more of a stool type of bench. All in all playing pianos now for all my life and having the opportunity to play both is definitaly a story to tell. Yes. They are totally different from each other. They both play totally different from each other in their pedals and keys. You do control them both totally differnt. Each piano demands a different way of playing. So yes. Exactly. You are not going to play an acoustic like you do a digital. You got to give the 2 types of pianos totally differnt attention.
Thanks for sharing your experience! You can use line breaks in comments and editing the text a bit would make it much more approachable.
@@nahblue well, you can but you don’t have to hit the enter key hahahaha its not a typewriter. Back then yes. You would have to enter and enter but the computer technology wraps everything around so you don’t have to keep hitting enter.
@@benjaminbrown5245yeah but there’s an enter key for a reason
Yes their is a enter key for a reason but,,,, it was back when they typewriter was being used and so the computer keyboard or the qwerty keyboard adopted that from the typewriter. You don’t have to use the enter key while typing on a computer you can I am not saying that but the enter key now also not only puts lines in but it is used for other functions as well, but it is not necessary to have to use the enter key these days while writing. Why? Cause the document will wrap around. The enter key was used for comming to the end of the margin of the paper. That is what it was used for or known as the return key on a typewriter. Older computers used more the enter key cause it would bee cut off your sentences. But now days you don’t have to worry about that. Back in the day if you remember lines and sentences would bee cut off so you had to use the enter key. Their fore, keyboards for computers these days still have that key cause it is used for different functions now as well. You can return for a new line but you don’t have to with digital typing these days. But this is about pianos. Why am I giving a talk about computers hahahahahahaha!!!!
@@benjaminbrown5245 a paragraph break and avoiding margins are two completely different things.
Wonderful, thoughtful content, laid out in a very clear, logical manner. I found you while doing research on a CLP-745. As a professional musician (trumpet), I wish the knuckleheads that produce trumpet videos were nearly as good. We’re usually spreading bad information, or more likely flexing.
Thanks so much for your comment, it means a lot to me, especially coming from a professional musician! Very grateful 🙏
@@Dariafortepiano You’re very welcome, and keep up the great work. This is all very helpful!
Спасибо за Ваше видео, Дарья! Приятно видеть, что учитель пытается вникнуть в различие между акустикой и цифрой, чтобы понять, откуда берется различие и на что обращать внимание, когда занимаешься на различных типах инструментов. Обычно в России учителя не придают этому значения, а зря, ведь это может и навредить ученику. Насчет работы ращличных групп мышц на Ямахе 745 и акустике, могу еще добавить, что у 745-й модели не самые тяжелые клавиши, поэтому клавиатура может создать впечатление легкой игры, привлекая только кончики пальцев, что немного ближе к синтезаторной технике. По этой причине в свое время я взял 675-ю модель, потому что у нее клавиши гораздо тяжелее (процентов на 20, на самом деле). И даже несмотря на то, что многие пользователи признали эту особенность недостатком, я ощутил огромный прогресс в плане задействования всего веса руки для извлечения звука, а не только пальцев. После чего уже не стал чувствовать такую колоссальную разницу между роялем в классе и домашним инструментом. А до этого обучался на легких клавишах Корга и синтезаторе - эта разница в работе мышц была весьма внушительна.
Congratulations for your analysis. These differences are very important and no one has described them so well. I wonder why so many "experts" have not told us this very simple but very important thing, the key length difference. What does it matter if someone says the keys are weighted? It will never be the same since the length of the lever and the location of the trunnion changes.
Congratulations again for your insightful comments. Thanks.
Thank you so much for your thoughtful comment! I just wanted to share with others what I found to be important when comparing the two:) I am very glad that it is helping others as well! 👍🙏🎹
Hi Daria,
The concept you refer to as gravity and when you say 'harder to press but easier to hold' is momentum. On an acoustic, moving the mass of the extension on the far side of the fulcrum, plus all of the hammer mechanisms, requires energy to get it moving from stationary. Once it is moved, the seesaw is now still and so requires less to hold it. On the digital, that resistance is created by a spring instead. That means that you must continue to battle the spring even when holding the key down.
Thanks for this series, I am about to receive a clp-645. Very excited as it will be far better than any acoustic I can find for the same price. Your series goes into the depth that many others don't - fascinating stuff.
Joe.
Hi Joe,
Thank you so much for your valuable input! Makes total sense. Thank you for taking time to explain!
I hope your new instrument is to your liking.
Appreciate your feedback and support of my work!
Best,
Daria
Hi Joe, I believe unfortunately, your clarification is also slightly incorrect :) There perhaps may be exceptions, but on fully weighted keys, that resistance is not created by springs, but by weights. The difference really comes mostly from the length of the keys and the fact there are weights instead of the momentum of the mechanism just as Daria explained. It's semi-weighted action that uses springs to simulate part of of the force, and it's non-weighted (synth) actions where it's done purely by springs. It's actually how the word "weighted" suggests. Fully-weighted = weights only, semi-weighted=part weight, part spring, non-weighted=just springs.
@@lumpichu Cool! Thanks Mirek. Looks like there might even be some digitals now that are using identical key setups as acoustics? Posh!
@@Makes-and-Mods Yes, those are the high-end "hybrid" Digital pranos. Full piano mechanism, but the hammer strikes a sensor instead of string.
DariaPiano
Digital Pianos have improved over the last several years & now they feel more like their Acoustic Counterparts. I converted one of my Acoustic Pianos to play like an 88 Key Unweighted Electronic Piano by replacing the original action w/ a Tubular Pneumatic Action that came out of an Aeolian Orchestrelle Reed Organ.
Hi Daria ... Have you ever considered having a MIDI strip /scan with possible Silent Piano (or Quiet Time ) system installed on your acoustic Baby Grand Piano
Hi Clyde! Thank you for the suggestion! This grand piano is not mine actually, lol. It is in the practice room in my school, so I don't need to silence it:)
On that note, I have tried pianos that have the silent action installed, and it actually slightly alters the touch response, so I would prefer to have an acoustic without this very useful feature. It seems to come with the price. I only tried two of those, but my other pianist colleagues had the same experience.
Cheers!
The Yamaha AvantGrand (hydrid piano) supposedly has the actual full action of an acoustic grand piano just except without the strings . So they have the actual full length of an actual grand piano action , with hammers and all ... just with out strings
I imagine having a Silent Piano System (&/or the PianoDisc version QuietTime) would turn an acrostic grand piano into a digital controller .(where as there would be a Ferris. Mind if mute rail installed or suspend system I talked that when engaged with sliding jist oregent the hammers from hitting the strings of an acoustic piano , but function normally as the action of the acoustic when normally played , plus it would have a MIDI strip/ sensor thet would send the signal to trigger a digital piano sound source &/or any other electronic keyboard sound source that could be triggered via MIDI ... etc ...
Hi Clyde, yes, I am familiar with the system. It is a very personal thing but to me, both the Hybrids I have tried and the acoustics with the silent system installed feel strange. It is hard to explain without looking into the mechanism in detail, but if is just the discomfort , you expect one thing based on the touch and then you get another thing in terms of sound, which is not quite matching...you know what I mean?
One day I will have the opportunity and resources to get approver acoustic grand piano, but for now I will be using the ones is school and using my CLP at home:)
Thanks for all your suggestions! Appreciate your input! 😃 🙏🏻
Great video. Just one mistake you made, I believe it is a misunderstanding of the term. Weighted keys means, the keys are weighted like acoustic pianos, which has nothing to do with touch sensitivity. Weighted keys generally will have similar weighting to acoustics, which means you need similar amount of force to press down the key, in many cases 50-55g, and you may or may not make a sound, but the force is enough to trigger the pivoting. Touch sensitivity is the fact that the keys can detect how much force you have put on to the keys, this will affect the dynamics.
Touch sensitive keys are found on my arranger keyboards, for example, but none of my arrangers have weighted keys because they are not for the purpose of simulating a piano.
Hi Daria, I have the same Digital piano: can you tell me how to open like that? Thx! Raf
Daria, please help! 😀
In serious doubt whether upgrading from Casio AP 470 to acoustic Yamaha B1 or "hybrid" Casio GP 510. Afraid Yamaha B1 will sound very loud even though it's considered a compact piano.
So, can you practice on digital piano in a way to engaging more the muscles in order not to weaken them when you switch to acoustic, or the only solution is yo practice at tge same time in the acoustic?
Excellent!
Many thanks for your feedback!🙏🏻
By the way , what is the Company &/or Brand of Your acoustic baby grand piano ? 🙏🏽
Yamaha, it's a school piano:)
So the selling point for the clp745 is that they have improved The key ballance from front to back of the keys, so is their any difference between the nwx action (p515) weighting and the grandtouch S (clp745) weighting since you have played both?
Yes, I can definitely feel the difference and this newer action is certainly more balanced. Although, it is on the lighter side compared to the p515, maybe this is why I personally felt more satisfaction pressing the key on the p515, they seemed more resistant that clp745 keys. But it is a personal preference. Objectively the grand touch action is definitely superior and more balanced.
Yamaha Graded Hammer uses 4 parts. Higher model (CLP775,785) have « linear graded hammer » where each key has a different weight.
Agreed! Thanks! I already mentioned that fact in my CLP 745 review:)
Only the 785 has individual key weighting.
What is the best way to clean the keys of a digital piano? I'm afraid to damage the electric part of it but also want a perfectly clean keyboard since my hands tend to sweat a little bit in the summer.
@Ronni Enrique Perez Machado thanks, I think as long i don't add to much alcohol it's going to be fine.
I converted my Acoustic Piano to play like a Digital Piano by replacing its original action w/ the Action that came out of a Spinet Piano (Mini Upright Piano).
If you were in my place which will u pick out of those two Yamaha pianos: JU109 or CLP785? In my country both are almost the same price
to be honest, I am not a good person to ask. I have not tried either of them. also, I have a general opinion that I would prefer to have an acoustic, rather than digital. but it depends on your situation, what you need in terms of piano function, and what kind of acoustic it is. sorry I couldn't help. I can say that between a U1 model (which I have tried) and clp 745 (which I own) I would choose U1, in my situation. best of luck!
@@Dariafortepiano that was helpful thank u for replying❤️
For a student with zero experience, would you recommend a used acoustic piano or a good digital piano? I'm thinking of trying to get a P515, but I'd prefer to get a nice acoustic.
Thanks,
Tom
Quit being cheap and get both like me. I have two acoustic pianos and two digital pianos. Kawai ES520 and a Yamaha P255
It is a good but difficult question to answer. In my opinion, it is generally better to learn on the actual acoustic piano for beginners, this way you are exposed to the real thing from the start and you get familiar with all the intricate relationships and responses you can create with the instrument, you get a full feeling of it. However, it depends on the condition of the used piano you are considering. Generally, piano's lifespan is between 30- 50 years if used regularly, unless it is fully repaired with part replacement. And also important to notice the imperfections and issue with each individual piano you are looking at . So when considering acoustic pianos look at their manufacture date and check them in person.
So between a very old acoustic that gets out of tune every week and has plenty of imperfections and a good digital that choice can be made towards the digital.
I hope it helps.
Cheers!
nice one! 🤣
@@gustavopaulette3496 Wow, 4 pianos! And you are a beginner with zero experience?... that is an impressive arsenal!
FWIW,
In the future, I plan on putting a baby grand in the living room and an upright in the family room along with a digital for silent practice, but I don't think I need all that right now during the learning phase. The most important issue is to learn how to play, but I want to learn properly and avoid unforeseen pitfalls and bad habits that a digital potentially could induce from inaccurate key action, as was stated in the video. I suppose I wasn't exactly clear on the question, but that's what I was getting at.
@@Dariafortepiano @DariaPiano Thank you for responding. Yes, very helpful!
Я, видимо, немного упустил, но что стало с yamaha p515? Сейчас сам учусь 1-ый год на yamaha p125
Пришлось его продать. Переезд был. Купила другой инструмент, но p515 мне нравился больше, честно говоря. Жалею, что не смогла его перевезти.
I'm surprised by the price you mentioned. CLP 745 is sold for less than $2700 in our country, maybe the price came down meanwhile. I belive you explained weighted keys slightly incorrectly, the feature that harder press plays louder tone has nothing to do with weighted keys, it's touch sensitivity, it means the keys have sensors to measure the pressure. Weighted keys mean that weights have been added to the keys to simulate the resistance of the mechanism of an acoustic.
I love your lipstick!
Thanks 😊
@@Dariafortepiano thank you for responding...
Bravo! Bravo! Bravo! Thank you so much for doing these three videos. I learned more from these three videos than I have from many dozens of other videos. You must have a very analytical, logical mind.
Now I’m in a conundrum. To buy a digital piano or not to buy a digital piano...that is the question. I was wondering though, do you know which portable digital piano would have the best key action to transition from to an acoustic piano? I was told the Kawai MP11SE and the Korg D1 would be very good but none of the stores close to me have either one so I can’t play them yet myself. Money is not a problem. I just want to find a portable digital piano that has the most acoustic like key action.
Please keep posting these wonderful videos. I think you give people more practical, helpful, in-depth information than anyone else on CZcams.
Hi Bruce, Thank you for your wonderful kind comment! Haha, yes, logical, I like to play chess, it helps develop my mind in a certain way. 😅
I understand your dilemma and the difficulty of choosing an instrument without trying it in person. I got my CLP 745 without looking too. Took a risk.
Unfortunately I have not tried Korg model you mentioned, but I looked it up. Doesn't seem very good to me, definitely not close to acoustic feel, based on specs and price.
However the Kawai model I have tried either that one, or a similar on in NYC, I remember. It was great! If you like the Kawai sound, go for it.
Also another good one is supposed to be Nord Grand, I have not tried this model, but have tried Nord 3, it was not bad. I think this one would be even better.
Best of luck with the piano search and choice! Hope I helped a bit, sorry not too familiar with many models in person. 😄
Best,
Daria
wouldn't it be better to compare some really high end digitals if you're comparing with a grand ? if you tried to match the price points of the pianos or even the specifications of the actions and complexities of the sound system you'll find that a clp 745 is more comparable to yamaha's ju/jx lineup. if you're going to compare a digital piano with an acoustic grand a better comparision would be something like roland's gp9 or yamaha's avantgrand with an acoustic grand , or comparing something like rolands lx 700 series or yamaha's clp 775/785 with a yamaha U series.
Your point is very well taken . I only compared those two pianos, because I have access to those. I can't get my hands on any of those nicer digital you specified, unfortunately. At least I compared the same brand:)
Understandable, if you still want to make an accurate comparison you could go to music stores and make comparisons on their pianos, I'm sure they'd be thrilled to have a pianist youtuber that gets thousands of views give them free advertising.
@@OkitaNamikaze haha, that's a nice suggestion! . I am not sure how much time they would give me with the pianos to become familiar with all it's features, but I could try. I live in a small city, we might not have all the models, but I can look. But thanks for the idea! 👍
@@Dariafortepiano damn , i have a store in my city which has some high end acoustics and digitals in stock i might check em out and compare if they let me play them bu honestly I'd still want to hear an experts honest opinion on those. Good talk.
the blur effect is kinda weird
I just got this piano and I'm sooooooo disappointed in its sounds. I tried every single setting and went into resonance and reverb adjustments, but the sound just hurts my ear in the upper registers. Some keys - the A and G major in the octave to the right of middle C just screams at you with this sharp digital sound. I can't understand how everyone raves about its sound. It sounds nothing like the real thing.
my God you are such a breathtaking beauty....
The piano is an acoustic instrument with strings, the other one is just an electic keyboard pretending to be a piano. Many of these keyboards also have violin and harpsichord on them as well, but they are also neither.
Sure thing! Acoustic sound in the room is irreplaceable for me too.
I mean... sure, in a way, but the technology is to be respected. These instruments are very capable and also invaluable for people who want to make music in the modern world
@Biozene absolutely! I agree, for example I can't afford an acoustic at the moment, so I'm grateful for what my keyboard gives me.
Eventually digitals will surpass acoustic ones.... the same happend to camera's...why?...well , because digitals can improve time after time.... acoustic cant.....
strong point yamaha made huge improvement every 3 year
@@vanplano6350 exactly! I own a yamaha p515.... its great ...great feeling, great sounds....but I also own the kawai mp11se.... and man.... what a "machine" the touch the sound.... think about that aftet another 10 or 20 years of upgrading... one thing is ofcourse a good point for the acoustic piano's... the look, of a concert grand....