A Sad Day for Toyota and Lexus Owners
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- Toyota Celica car review. A Sad Day for Toyota Owners, DIY and car review with Scotty Kilmer. Why did they stop making the Toyota Celica. What happened to the Toyota Celica. The end of the Toyota Celica. Toyota Celica problems. Are Toyota Celicas good cars? Is Toyota Celica coming back? The history of the Toyota Celica. Car Advice. DIY car repair with Scotty Kilmer, an auto mechanic for the last 55 years.
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In the free market, when a company doesn’t deliver quality to the consumer, they go out of business. In America, they can build whatever crap they want and get our money anyway.
what do you think of the new turkish car togg? do you have any opinions considering its very new
Scotty is a genius at fixing cars.
If I remember correctly, that model Celica had a Toyota commercial with an old guy on the neighborhood side walk pointing his cane at a parked one yelling "slow down!" and the advertisement point was they look fast even sitting still. It was hilarious.
I remember THAT!
😂😂😂
That's funny. I do remember that one. And the other one for the same car. The dog would run out into the street like chasing a car and run into the parked Celica.
@Tom Fitton 🤣
@@TomFitton-ff8knyeh them Supra Turbos that can be tuned to 1000bhp with stock internals are quite boring😆
i had to watch the commercial.😂😂
The 1ZZ-FE engines are notorious for oil consumption caused by piston rings frozen with carbon deposits. The drilled extra holes from 2003 or 2004 which partly solved the problem. But basically it's a rebuild once the problem starts (often around 100 000 miles/160000 km), as it will only worsen with time.
My gts has 260000 on the original engine and still works great
The 2zz is a great engine. The gts manual is as fun as any car out there. I had 300k on my gts with original engine and still going strong when i sold it.
@Tom Fitton bruh😂 seriously stop.
Mine blew up after 3 years and 20k miles driving it. Just like Scotty said. Should've gone with the smaller one, but didn't know better at the time. The cost for repair was half the car's worth and had to get rid of it.
@@ventsislavstefanov9590 doesnt sound like the full story at all, unfortunately people like to blame everything else before themselves. 2zzge doesnt just blow up randomly
I got 330,000 miles on my GTS before an accident finally retired it. A lot of people destroy their engine when they miss a downshift...shift into second instead of fourth.
This is my second Celica the first one was involved in a crash so I got another one 7th generation 2002 GTS. I've had this since 2013 and it runs like the day I bought it. Is small, Zippy and paid for! I'm going to own mine forever!
@Tom Fitton dude, try not to hate so hard this car is bawling for me and it hasn't cost me $0.01 except for oil and fluids which you have to take care of. My daddy then taught me right
@Tom Fitton cool dude
Scotty, the Celica GTS 2ZZGE is great! I know lots of owners with well over 100k miles on them. You just made a similar video not even a year ago. Must be old age.
You can definitely tell the car has been loved by its owner. It looks brand new on the outside AND the inside.
When my S-10 was totaled after an auto accident, I was told by a car dealership that I was not getting enough from insurance (they did offer more than KBB), but when he saw how spotless my engine compartment was, he knew it was well-cared for. Much of car valuation is on how clean the car is kept as much as how well it runs.
@@TomFitton-ff8kn got a "boring" 2010 toyota with over 500,000 miles on it...original motor and tranny....if your Beemer and Benz even make it to half that...then talk to me... Hahahahaha... Both will be in the junk yard way before then....enjoy them while you can.
More like a tightwad too cheap to spend a dollar
@@kayschwartz4410my mustang gt will smoke it
@Tom Fitton those cars are slow though.
I am the 2nd owner of a 1990 Celica GTS 5 speed still with the original engine and transmission. It has the 2.2L 5S-FE engine which is a very common and practically bullet proof motor. Pretty much a zero drama car.
I'm an accountant too and recently got a Camry. I love this baby - smooth and reliable. :)
I personally owned an '04 GTS 6MT and it was a hoot to drive. Never had any issues with it and even upgraded the cams in the 2zz. I once drive a GT Celica and ran back to my car. The GT was just way too slow for me. Felt like it couldn't out accelerate a semi
My friend has one of those with around 400k miles and still going.
You can see scotty falling back in love again his eyes just sparkle looking at the celica
My favorite Celica was the third generation that was made between 1981 to 1985. The later GT-S with the 2.4 liter 4 cylinder had decent torque and was a very reliable engine. If only Toyota would re-introduce a RWD Celica but I'm not holding out hope.
I had an 86 Celica Supra and absolutely loved that car. Unfortunately those did seem to have issues with rust which is why I had to let it go. I sold the best car I'd ever have in hopes somebody else could take better care of it. Watching my baby drive away was like watching a dream die.
Wow, I love that the owner has taken such good care of it! What a cute Celica.😍
A girl who takes care of her car that well is a keeper!
While most of what Scotty said about the 2ZZGE is true, they aren’t necessarily bad engines. Mine had over 230,000 miles before going out.
Just stay on top of your maintenance and if you are gonna do any hard track driving or high rpm driving please get a baffled oil pan and after market oil pump
I have a Toyota Celica GT it’s a 2003 with a 5 speed manual has 145k miles still drives good
Mine rusted and cost 2 grand in welding! but iv've been rear ended and it took the beating, tough little sports cars.
I love the small University of Wisconsin sticker on the back window !
I just noticed the baby seat in the back.
Sooooo any body gonna ask how was this a bad day for Toyota and Lexus owners? Asking for a friend.
It was the last celica built. Mk7
I miss my silver 2001 Celica GT. Lots of great road trips and memories with that car. I had the manual tranny as well.
My favorite Celica was the '73 .had a dream and saw it....had to go view it to know what it was.That same day I discovered a Triumph TR6
Scotty! You forgot to mention the MKIII/ MR2 spyder. Same engine and compatible with celica, matrix, and corolla. Often ignored and misunderstood, it is becoming rare and sought after. Not many left but is getting a cult following turning them into modern day go karts. Would love to hear your input on these little cars.
I just bought an 03 celica gt manual. My first manual and I love it to death.
Great car. Mine did start burning oil at 210k and was blowing clouds of smoke by 218 but it still ran fine!
The dipsticks are at the dealership. Also, how many decades has your Celica had 230,000 miles?
My brother had a 2004 Celica GTS with 200k miles on the original engine but he kept having it overheat and had to fix things here and there all the time. He finally sold it after I gave him my 2013 civic
8:22 ok that's what I did for my old friend Zach. He bought a 2003 Celica, im not sure if it was GT or not, but one day at CVS I got him the exact Celica toy like in this video, but it was yellow and that's where he put it at too in his car.
My wife and i are actually giving out 2001 Celica to our niece, as her first car and she’s going to collage soon. Might not be the fastest, but I feel like it’s going to be mechanically sound and safe.
Hi scotty, that xtool F401 OBD2 scanner that you used in this video, have got a link for it.
Yep we had a 95 in perfect condition but my wife liked the 2001 body style so we sold the 95 & got a huge lemon. I kick myself for selling the 95
The Yamaha motors in the Taurus sho in the early 90's were a mess also
The 2zz-Ge is a fine engine, but it was notorious for timing cover leaks, which are a huge PITA to replace, so every single one leaked and it was only a matter of time until the low oil killed the high rpm engine. You have to exceed 1G in a turn to make the stock oil pump cavitate.
That’s why I change my oil every 3-5k mi
The timing cover leak on the 2ZZ is pretty common as the cars age but honestly not a huge deal to fix. What IS extremely common is the severe oil consumption on Celica GT with the 1ZZ engine from 00-02 due to bad rings. Requires a rebuild or new engine. Now THAT is an actual pain.
@@AlDim000 Agreed. My 2zz-ge w/180k is from 2004 and is still ripping off the limiter weekly with no trouble. All it wants is zero leaks, 3k synthetic oil changes, OE filters, and the stock intake setup. A CAI is a death sentence for it given much air it pulls and how poorly non OE filters work for filtration.
@Tom Fitton The power to weight ratio is what makes these engines/ vehicles shine. Divide the curb weight of your boat by the power output and do the same for any sedan crapbox on the road and compare the two if you need proof.
Hey Scotty, I have a 2006 Saturn Ion Red Line that's experienced two random stalls a week apart at stoplights, when it's idle. Not sure if you know anything about that car, any suggestions? I was told to use higher octane fuel than 87 because it's an old supercharged engine, and to get a fuel cleaner. I am still trying to use the last tank I filled before I put higher octane fuel in it.
Absolute beauty in great condition and detailed
I have the Yamaha designed 1.8 in my Toyota Matrix XRS. I have 194,000 Mi on it and I red line that thing on a semi regular basis. Needless to say I'm still on the original motor and transmission...
Scotty , you are a funny dude. Enjoy your vids. And you've taught me alot.just want to say Thanks man for all the power of knowledge & cars.
I have a blue one made in 2006. 166 000 miles on the clock, last 56 000 done by me. Hard driving. Roads grind the car down more than my driving
Yeah, the good old 1ZZFE, same motor that was in my 2006 Corolla. Just br prepared to change the tensioner belt pulley every 70k miles or so ;-).
Hi Scotty,
What is your impression of the Chevy Equinox with 100,00 miles on it?
Thanks, love your show!
Wouldn’t recommend unless you can get it for really cheap and don’t drive much. The 1.5 engine and auto transmission are not a very good powertrains. I’d recommend a Toyota rav4, Honda Crv, or 2014+ Mazda cx-5
I have the VVTLI in red also, japanese import once serviced regularly which mine is no problem engine wise, where im having problems believe it or not is the superstrut suspension, costing me too much spend upwards of 2k now ive a shock absorber to replace so im getting rid of it because need a bigger car as its my daily
167000km, no they are not fast 192bhp no pull out of them all rpm, dont bounce of the limiter, and replace the oil pan if wanting to keep it as they can get starved, while cornering hard.. Fun car and enjoyable quite cheap too, much more reliable than a rx8. Get a manual
I had the 94 Celica gts 5 speed 2.2 litre amazing car loved it way better than this 2000s style
Scotty you should make a video how car makers (like Honda ) hates how USA ( dealerships) marks up so starting this week you can buy directly…. No mark up! People can save so much but money !!!!! Buying a new car from corporate vs a dealership … they made the international news last night !!!!!❤❤❤❤❤😮❤ they wil make it cheaper as long as you buy over seas … it’s only take paper work ….I can only assume what’s going to happened
Those Celica's were beautiful, awesome cars. Not on par with the 300ZX or Dodge Stealth TT, but on a lighter, more nimble level.
Scotty, I bought a 2004 Toyota GTS brand new in 2004, have over 200,000 miles on it and it runs great
203k on my 2004 Camry. The rocker panels are shot, but I can live with it!
I love that Toyota 1.8 engine. Easy to work on and durable. I have 73k on my 2010 corolla and I'm hoping to make it to 2- 300k or more maybe if I'm lucky
Very nice
I've had a few of these, and older previous generations too like Scotty's- but I had GT's, which in that spec was the the higher output 3SGE engine. Great engine. The last GT engine like the red one here, is called the 1ZZ -and also had bottom end problems which did detonate them. I speak from experience. The GTS 2ZZ Yamaha engine he is talking about had problems with the lift cam bolts snapping, and oil starvation in hard and prolonged cornering due to the sump design -but after after 2003 they addressed the cam bolts, but not the oil sump pan. It is a much better engine than the 1ZZ, and not prone to many failures, but only if serviced regularly. That is key. Change the oil and filter every 6- 7000 miles, and also the cam 'lift' oil filter screen needs looked at every once in a while, but if you're changing the oil regularly, this also should always be fine. One simple, cheap mod is to put the 1ZZ oil sump on, which has a baffle. This eliminates any oil starvation in corners. I'm at over 180k miles on mine and still going strong. Great car.
I'm very happy with my Celica GT, MT and 98.000km.
Scotty's 6th gen Celica was a really great-looking car. The engine isn't the only thing that went downhill after that.
My Aunt and Uncle drove a used 1974 Corolla for years.
Hey scotty! Would you like to see my 2004 Toyota Celica?
Scotty, Aloha from the Tennessee Valley! ‘04 Celica GT (1zzfe) 5spd, 265k miles. I love this car. The drive is pure joy, its super reliable, easy to work on when needed, and she gets compliments almost daily!
Should you change transmission fluid when the car has over 150,000 miles?
I miss my 94 celica. It was quick and nice as hell with all I had done to it.
What did you do to it? Performance- wise
@maurice2014 it had carbon fiber hood black 18s lowered 2 inches. Full exhaust no cat or resignator with header full intake and that's basically it. Painted firewall black car was red. Dual cam with that trans was good against b series Hondas. I want a gt4 celica or mr2 with the 3sgte awd turbo.
That Toyota Celica is a modern classic cool car. 👍🏻 good job Scotty & co , keep ‘em comin’ 👍🏻
Do you find that, with the likes of Toyota Celica (in my case, a 2004) that once the rust has started, there is nothing you can do about it? my Celica recently failed on driver-side sill corrosion. I have been quoted £250-350 to fix this (could be more) and will need rear brakes. The engine does sound good, but I do think I am getting some clutch slippage. I know it's hard to diagnose things from a far, but I am wanting to keep the car for about 5 years or more, would it be worth it? or would I only be buying myself another year's usage with the rust?
I had a 2000 celica gt 5speed manual Loved her… moved from midwest to CA with her… drove alllllll around the usa. 275k miles by me…..had to leave her behind in midOhio in 2013. 😢 very rare to find one with manual transmission .
I have this car since 2005.
Isn't the scion tc a successor to the celica, it checks all the boxes fwd 2.4 4cylinder 2dr hatchback
Yup , some people say the " tc "
means " Toyota Celica " lol .
I have 2 of them .
3:00 The GR Corolla and Yaris enter the ring.
Damn, that Celica is clean!
Hey Scotty! I had a '74 Celica ST and it was so much fun, then my girlfriend (now wife) bought a brand new '86 Celica GT-S with a 5-speed and it was a lot of fun. Good times. Great interiors. Dependable but rusty...... poor thing.
Those 1ZZ's have insufficient oil flow through the piston walls and eat up their rings. After those were changed the valve stem seals wore out after 340,000km. Great engine though. Never wanted to stop.
I had a 91 GTS and I had it for 14 years way over 250 miles.
And she was manual
Scotty I have the same exact car only mine is yellow with 155,000 miles! I absolutely love it! Greetings from Arizona!
Pontiac Vibe and Toyota Matrix are both same motors right?
Here in the UK I spoke to a guy with an S2000, the stats looked great but he said to get it to really go you had to rev the heck out of it. As far as I'm concerned that's useless for every day driving. My Lexus V8 is far more fun for me because it has torque, sure it has BHP too but the engine hardly does over 3000 rpm. I just let the autobox do it's thing, unless going downhill then I put it in a lower gear myself as it's an older 6 speed.
revving the heck out of it is fun, not sure how its useless for daily driving at all. a v8 with an auto is boring in comparison
@@arcanevoid9199 I'd say it largely depends on what sort of driver one is, and how you choose to drive. I suppose that's why so many different types of car are made. For me revving car like that is more suited to the race track and not the road, which are there to transport us around safely and conveniently...in theory anyway.
Toyota dealership in New Zealand recommended me to change my transmission fluid every 90,000km. I asked them about lifetime fluid and apparently, they have never heard of it.
The lifetime fluid crap is mainly a USA thing so they can cay the cost of ownership is lower or some crap
@@joshuamast5128 I also heard that Australia is the same. Dealerships here are more honest. But I'm still careful.
I was curious as to who makes the transmissions for the Chevy Cruze, so I looked it up and found out it is made by Ford. It is one of the models that GM and Ford cooperated with each other. A couple days later I got an email from Cruze Talk about a guy who had over 200 thousand miles on his and he wanted to know if anyone else had as a long a lasting Cruze. He goes many responses from people including one guy who was closing in on 300 thousand. I know you don't think much of either make, but it does show that you are right about cars lasting a long time if people take good care of them. Meanwhile on another You Tube channel a young woman who is ex-military is rebuilding an early model Celica and scrounging as many OEM parts as she can.
We have an 2008 corolla with about 185k on it still runs great probably go another 50k to 100k.
1ZZ oil pan fits on the 2ZZ motor = Problem solved.
its not problem solved, 1zz pan isnt really an upgrade
How did she keep it so clean under the hood
I still have 1995 Celica ( not GT) and has 98,000 plus miles on my car.
The Supra is actually made in Austria Toyota was a part of the development despite not building it themselves. Toyota also has a successor to the LFA reportedly in the works perhaps being branded as a Lexus co developed with Mazda.
I miss my 1989 Toyota Celica such a fun car and I really enjoyed the pop up head lights. It also drove pretty good in the snow in Alberta.
Great help man thanks
We have a GTS with 372,000 original miles. Original engine
2zzge right? have you ever had to adjust valves mate? also any issues generally with this mileage
No, just oil leak at timing cover
@@DimoS... yes 2zzge
@@duanelongworth6909 👌 awesome!
@duanelongworth6909 also which oil you use?
Oil starvation was caused on high speed turns at high RPM. Failing oil pump gears were caused by the sintered metal oil pump gear disintegrating from the damage caused when they tried to pump air. Both can be compensated for with aftermarket parts. Toyota built themselves an underpowered sports car, but used a family car oil system.
As far as where Toyota was aiming with the 00+, it was at the Integra GS-R and Type R. Direct competitors.
Also, the demise of the Celica was caused by the draw to SUVs. Toyota didn't want to make any more performance cars, and spent more on developing their SUV lineup. The Celica was the last nail in Toyota's performance car lineup, dying just like the Supra and MR2.
BTW, the Scion TC certainly has an interesting name, doesn't it? 😉
now that's a lot of words and gesticulation, i can't take it in one go
My 03 Vibe GT 2zz runs great. 155k mi but I’m sure I’ll get to 250k easy.
What year is this car?
1981 Celica gt 22r engine 5spd trans, awesome car for me . lasted for years .
She must have gotten lucky with the rust protection as my Celica is one rusty machine. Given where it's lived for the majority of it's life its no surprise but still.
“2002 Toyos Celica with 240 thousand miles, windows don’t roll up and probably needs new motor, check engine light is in, burns oil, transmission slips and this is my daily, asking 4,500 no low balls” These people man 🤦♂️🤷♂️
I have owned a 2004 vibe and currently only 2006 matrix. The c59 transmission in the vibe lasted 200,000 and had input shaft bearing failure. I put new bearings and seals in the c59 and got another 100,000 miles out of it
The 2006 matrix c59 transmission lasted about 170,000 mi and was starting to make the same noises. I replaced the c 59 with a c60 and am thrilled with the results. I have a little over 200,000 on the matrix and am running liquid Molly synthetic oil in it. I'm currently sitting at 8,600 mi on the oil change and it hasn't burnt or lost any. I really appreciate the simplicity of the matrix and the vibe and regret that simple cars are no longer available.
The vibe made it to about 280,000 mi, and I decommissioned it because I live in near Buffalo and rust had gotten the better of it.
There seems to be way too much of people's identity tied up in what they drive it blows my mind that companies like stalantis exist
Low dollars per mile is the most important factor. And these cars come out on top regarding this.
@Jeremy Wellman well how come I know people with C59 transmissions with 300,000 miles and still working good if yours had that happen. Did you keep riding your clutch and using 1st gear without handbrake? Or did you not change the manual transmission gear oil?
As far as i'm concerned, everyday is a sad day for Toyota's. 😁🤣 Honestly i am really surprised that they ever made a comeback from the 80's. The fact that they actually can run a long time without breaking down is always a good thing though. 👍
Always liked the styling on this gen. Still looks good to this day..
I remember noticing the interior part quality had gone down though, more hard plastics.
@Tom Fitton Aight bro. Each their own..
My 2003 GTS was great, no issues other than my knee driving a 6 speed in Boston traffic...
This is the first spotless car driven by i female I’ve ever seen. It looks immaculate in and out
😅😅😅 women are terrible at maintaining cars. I bought my second Celica from my sister and she almost destroyed that car
@@captainjosue there are both men and women who are terrible at maintaining cars, dont need to be sexist
Wishing I still had my 85 Celica GT-S....wow, that baby was a special kind of vehicle, I mean 5 speed, rear wheel drive, with the 2.4 liter 4 cylinder engine, she was a badass for sure.
$4k in a transmission for an old Celica gt. 31 mpg, over 203k miles. I probably would've gone for a Yaris. I get 44 mpg with mine.
Hi Scotty vehicle I have a 2011 Cadillac Escalade ESV Platinum with 6.2 L with 212,000 all original miles on this one it’s my second one of this year and the most miles I ever had on a vehicle. But very happy because I maintain it👍
I bought a new hatchback 45 years ago. Best car I have ever owned. Had it about 12 years with nothing but regular maintenance.
@@TomFitton-ff8kn only 130k miles and 11 years old? lol try 30 years old with 400,000 miles still going
@@TomFitton-ff8kn never said one owner, but you dont seem like a person who understands cars at all. just brain rot looking at your comments
Didn't own it 30 years, owned it for 12. It was 45 years ago. The kind of person that would own a car for 12 years is someone who values their money.
I am a Lexus owner and I’m deliriously happy.😁
Scotty! That "could be" a race rally car. I love the lip around the top of the fenders and doors. I bet if she wanted to strip it down and soup it up, she could race it. 200K miles, why not? Seekonk Speedway stock rally day.😃
I loved my 87 mr2