Weathering the Storm: Tire Tactics at NASCAR Chicago
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- Join Denny Hamlin and Jared Allen on the Action Detrimental podcast as they unpack NASCAR's intense Sunday in Chicago. From rain challenges to ethical dilemmas on the track, they discuss it all. Hear insights on strategic decisions, NBC's scheduling choices, and the impact of Michael Jordan on Denny's competitive drive. Plus, a deep dive into key race moments and Alex Bowman's long-awaited victory. Don't miss this episode filled with insider knowledge and candid reflections!
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Chapters
00:00 - Competitive Nature and Racing Mindset
02:17 - Challenges of Racing in the Rain
04:41 - Ethics and Aggressive Driving in Wet Conditions
08:05 - The Need for Accurate Wet Weather Simulation
09:03 - Focusing on Strengths and Priorities
11:25 - Struggles with Corner Entry and Finding the Limit
14:46 - Visibility and Safety in Wet Conditions
19:37 - Balancing Rules and the Integrity of the Race
21:34 - The Success of the Chicago Race and Event Planning
25:25 - Tire Choice and the Impact on Race Outcomes
29:21 - Pit Stop Strategy and Decision-Making
32:17 - The Impact of Caution Periods
33:45 - Drivers' Actions During Caution Periods
39:08 - NASCAR's Response to Incidents
45:29 - Denny Hamlin's Competitiveness
49:27 - Thoughts on Retirement
53:09 - Racing Against the Clock
56:12 - Alex Bowman's Win
01:00:34 - Camaraderie Among NASCAR Drivers
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I want to see this race so bad in the dry
Same
Yeah the xfinity race was awesome but I would argue about 94.3% of xfinity races have been better than cup this year.
@@dedo7326 True.
I know, i had a blast watching the xfinity race in the sun. Third times a charm next year maybe lol
SVG would've wiped the floor with everyone (again) had he not been taken out. In the dry, perhaps others would get a chance to beat him.
Why wasn't the Larson rivalry brought up in this episode? Kyle saw Denny spin into the wall and said, "Watch this Denny! I'll hit it even harder!" 🤣
🤣🤣🤣
@@TheUncancelable1 Larson absolutely hit the wall harder than any car we've seen at this course. Dude cleared straight through to the concrete.
@@CannedBreadCS2 I know. I misread the comment.
Disagree there was no danger, and not because I’m a fan of either Bowman or Bubba, but he didn’t mention window nets down, belts loosened, not as aware so when things occur the chance of it being more “eventful” than not is a danger still. I also loved Denny’s comments about not partnering with NASCAR as owners and drivers. 👍🏻
It was awesome to see the chaos the drama and the challenge the drivers had to deal with!
Denny thanks again for stopping to take a picture with my girls after qualifying on Saturday as you were walking back to the hauler. You made their year
Being that the race was shortened. There shouldn't have been a stage break caution, the points should have been awarded but no caution should have been thrown. Also the race at race tracks with lighting issues should be started earlier during the day, that way it gives you more options and opportunities to get a full race in. The racing was amazing and everyone wanted more. I Felt like NASCAR could have done a better Job on😢 the Fly.
True
Same channel as Indy car, they were waiting for them to end 😅
The drivers said nascar did a great job calling the race the way it played out so if the drivers not complaining then that’s all that matters and you can’t start the early because they have other television broadcasting
@@MGlass-xg9no I was given my assessment before the podcast started as if the race just ended. The point was the racing was great but the Fans wanted more or at least I Did. So that's the perspective I was coming from. The start time really wasn't the main issue. I just didn't like the stage break given the race was going to be shortened. Being that it had the potential to go from a wet to dry track without the stage break and more laps more strategy and they're probably would have been better race craft to finish the race. Just my 2 cents.
I'm more of a Racer than a common fan.
You need to get a pit light in the back window to activate telling drivers you are pitting, as that entry was chaos
That entry was crazy short, I'm really surprised there were no major wrecks from trying to pit... But then most of the race was under caution
Denny, a year ago I didn’t know who you were or anything about the sport . Watched the race on TV last year, because I was interested as a Chicago native. I watch races in all three series regularly. I went this year and have tickets for the Bristol weekend in September. I was sitting in the founders suite behind the pits and could see backstage to that sign that said “Do something to make a new fan today.” You did last year, and probably did again this year.
So glad fans like you have discovered the sport! Who’s your favorite driver?
It’s our year man🤑
@@ActionsDetrimental team bubba all the way. been following him since he BET tv show he was on as a teen. kid has natural talent just needs to take in ur guidance wisdo and tenacity to reign it all in and develop to the stud driver he can be
Bubba Wallace is s joke@@teddywinker2027
@@ActionsDetrimentalSVG in Xfinity, not decided on cup but Denny is on the shortlist. Denny is my favorite owner though.
I had a good view on lakeshore drive for this race. It sucked with the rain but when it resumed the intensity turned up so fast because it went from recovering from the rain to trying to get the laps in before it got dark. If they run it back for the third time they should push the race earlier to beat the rain if it comes through
I'm glad he brought up the start time issue because it seems so incredibly stupid to start that race so late in the day knowing daylight could become an issue.
starting a race at noon is less disruptive to chicago union workers than running a race until nightfall
“Sometimes the cameras on you, sometimes it’s not” is a great quote for the whole Bubba and Bowman situation 😂
I can’t wait to see the Pocono race this weekend. I think certainly Denny will dominate the race and it is going to be his weekend. Pocono is his track and his favorite track. I noticed in one of his videos he has a center island in his kitchen that is shaped like Pocono race way
I have followed some of Jimmy Broadbent's channel (from his stewardship vids) who has real world driving experience, and he raved about how the wet weather experience worked on iRacing. He in particular enjoyed how the track transitions from dry to wet and vice versa for endurance races when he tested Nurburgring, a situation the Chicago race certainly ran into.
This is really interesting. 🤔
@ActionsDetrimental you should atleast try it. Iracing and asseto corza(pc version) are pretty good on wet. Even gran turismo got somewhat feeling of where wet-line is and where to cross the slippery dry-line. And poor bastards that plays iracing might get schooled a bit if you cup guys join in
It's nice to hear Denny talk about his competitive nature. Not many pro athletes talk about it, but in order to be pro and compete at the highest level, you really do need to be a selfish asshole. It's an unspoken rule for everyone that truely wants to be great.
Really competitive people don’t talk about it. Denny is telling everyone how he wants people to see him. That’s what he’s always doing.
@@mlwilliam213💯
@@mlwilliam213Jordan, Byrd and Magic all talked about their competitive nature
These are great! Jared, you are doing a phenomenal job and I can see why Denny picked you to cohost! Asking the tough questions and not being a yes man is the only way these work, like the Dale Junior Download fell off when Mike left!
Just watched the nascar documentary on Netflix. Your dad is awesome Denny and you can tell hiw proud of you he is. Your mom also. But your dad's a character
Bowman should be thanking Briscoe for taking SVG out of the race, coz he was on track to sweep the weekend if that didn’t happen.
And he should be thanking Reddick for following in his car owners footsteps in being a choke artist, also Brad K for taking care of Ty Gibbs. Larson for stoving it in the fence. And lastly the clock lol
or Larson taking out Larson.
SVG is a wet track rain specialist , its a pity he got done accidentally
Im with Bowman on this one. Just let a sleeping dog lay.
The dry and damp racing was great to watch. I enjoyed seeing cup cars drift around corners. The very wet racing wasn't great.
We know the wet isn’t Dennys thing. Denny knows it’s not his thing but ole boy is A11IN for 2024.
Dont just put your foot on em Denny. Take the W.
How is it too hard to not just have this in August , June or April? I feel like that would cut down on the rain.
Chicago could easily snow in April and the rain comes and goes. Just shit luck but thats why they need to start races earlier
As a Bowman fan, I was worried about listening this week, but you were very fair in your assessment on how stuff went in the race. I really appreciate that, and my respect for you and the podcast just continues to go grow. Jared kills it with the questions and a great cohost as well.
When are we getting the 23XI Jordan shoe?
Crew shoes, racing shoes,?
Basketball or casual.
For the streets. Limited supplies only.
As soon as the US lifts the bans on China, Can buy knockoff Jordan's in the Philippines for $22 ,
Airspeeds?
I wonder how many viewers, especially international ones, tuned out after Briscoe forgot what the middle pedal did
The stage break caution wasn't required, but yeah, turned it off after that.
Yes! Once I seen that stupidity that was it! Svg is class he will come back!
Nope as a kiwi gutted SVG went out, but still watched it till the end, well worth watching.
Yeah I say there's a lot of drivers that deserve the chance at Joe Gibbs Racing a lot more than he does Gibbs is going for the dollar that Briscoe brings. I would have much rather seen Josh Berry go to Gibbs
@@travisrabich6609did you see how many times Josh spun out?
Sidebar: I wish every podcast i listen to had the audio quality this one always has. Tip of the cap.
Check out Jr's podcast and Door Bumper Clear when someone isn't in the studio. Sounds like Neil Armstrong talking from "the Moon."
Briscoe ruined the race
Look at Denny giving Alex a shout out considering he dubbed him a Hack
You could try some V8 supercars here in Australia!!!
during a caution you dont drop the window net or loosen your belts like you do at the end of the race.Bubba put the 48 into the wall on driver side 3 hours after the incident.
3rd time will be a charm! Chicago 2025!!
I'm going to write something controversial. . . Denny's podcast is better than the Dale Jr download. IMO.
That’s a bold take, but we appreciate the support!
I agree
Totally agree!
I think it is. We get more in depth perspective because he's in the races. He also owns a team in it and he's willing to share more of his honest opinions. Nothing wrong with Jr. He just has a limit as to how filtered or unfiltered he will be and isn't knee deep as a driver or owner. I mean he doesn't even get in depth as an owner of an Xfinity team. His interviews are great. But the weekend recap episodes aren't AS GOOD, and even aren't as good as when he had Mike as a cohost. Again, nothing against the guys he has to bounce off of, but I feel like Mike added alot and pressured Jr on some topics where the other guys are generally just there for Jr to talk to as an avenue to speak to the viewers/listeners.
lol
Maybe a good link up could be Tony Kanaan (through Jared's H1100 connection). He's very open to intro-ing other drivers to the newer aspects of iRacing, and did a lot of work around the introduction of rain.
iRacing doesn't have Next Gen cars rain-enabled yet but there are a few other cars that could be good training tools, at least for adapting lines and playing around with on-track dryness.
I can understand why Chase was pushing to get by Daniel. Had he finished there after the pass, he’d be tied with or.1 behind Larson for the points lead. Unfortunately for him, he’s now 11 out cause he finished 21st.
I could do a lot of thing's I could do at 20 that I can't do at 30, so i can't imagine what 40 feels like, Maybe Denny can let us know what old age feels like?
Why does NASCAR insist on starting races so late in the day?
As for start times, here in Sonoma they start at noon every year and it’s fine
Yeah I wanna hear Hambone talk about racing ethics 😂🤣😂
Did you tell the 47 Congratulations from me on his family addition.
So sorry about the Rain and the breaking.
48 doesn't win if you know wasn't taken out. Sweet of everyone to think he won on merit though.
Well no way of knowing who might have won
@@davids5006I think we all know who was going to win. He was going to school the field again.
The clock was a nice tribute to SRX, which was supposed to start this week 😢 one year since Denny won the opener at Stafford
I'm happy Stenhouse got another top 10, even after our man Dennis here almost obliterated him. That incident gave us better wet tires to hold off the slicks.
V8 Supercars and Nascar should start a driver exchange program I had that thought for a while.
Talking about cautions, I believe it was the last caution of the race there was like 21 minutes when the caution fly came out for not even an accident. I think it was a one maybe a two car spin and it took over five minutes to restart the race on a road course are you kidding me, that is insane. I don’t know the processes and all the other stuff that NASCAR has to bye-bye with the rules so on and so forth safety precautions, but that is ridiculous to me and it happens all the time more and more obviously it takes away from the race I believe on road courses, there should be and you’ve done it before NASCAR is done up before they’ve done an Xfinity series as well. A competitive pitstop stage and there’s no caution laughs. There’s nobody on the track you come in you do your time do your changes you have amount of time to get it done you get out, I love that that should be on every single track. You should not count caution laps at the end of the stage you are shortening the erase by 15 to 20 laps every single race if not more.
Would Denny have been OK with Ricky doorslamming him on the cool down lap?
I doubt any driver cares after they win
Cant race the cup cars in the rain on iracing. Thank god
To be honest, i believe ur content is good enough you guys deserve a lot more subs and views!! Altough i hope Jared goes and starts a pod cast Larson
I think it’s because they were under Dirty Mo channel last year. I agree though its a great detailed podcasts every week.
I think having one race per year being an endurance race instead would be cool. Make it double points to increase the importance of it. Question would be where to hold it.
The commentators were watching Reddick and his times vs Bowman.
The xfinity race was probably be one of the most exciting xfinity .
Great episode! I love your competitive nature Denny. A11IN
It’s on baby it’s on let’s go get em
Why did they not delay the race to Monday? Did the city put a limit to Sunday was the last the streets were to be closed?
The single line restarts seemed to removed compation ? Is there any tracks in Portland or Washington it rains there a lot ?
Love the H1100 sticker on Jared's laptop.
They cover it up with tape! Wtf
@@DobyDuke He wants to keep his job with Denny
@@chadchadchadchadchad phoooook denny and censorship!
@@DobyDukedenny did it as a joke last week and guess they just didn’t feel like takin it off ha. Just some painters tape
SVG was going to run away with this race...
literally put a live bet of +230 on SVG 10 laps later Briscoes handicapped ahh wrecks him 😭
I'm not convinced he was. Bell, Gibbs and Reddick have all stepped up their street game big time in just their second year. They're going to close the gap from here on, and next year will be interesting to see who wins.
@TheSaturnV Not a chance in hell they beat SVG. Almost Zero chance on merit. There's levels to this and they are still levels below
@@TheSaturnVHe Passed All Those Guys In Stage One What Are You Talking About 😅
Denny has done a great job training Bubba to be a punk just like himself
All i can say is you should be thanking Chase Briscoe because use were about to get schooled hard.
In the future, I wouldn't mind seeing road/street races be timed instead of distance races. 135 mins (2 hrs 15 mins) at every road/street course would be a good spot I think. They might also want to consider head and tail lights for those tracks too. Maybe invest a little in some basic lighting at the tracks so that the mix of track lights and car lights would make the visibility a non issue. The more conditions you make available to race in, the more options you have to get races in and it would give NASCAR something it hasn't had that some other series do. I mean, they have IMSA to base it off of, so it would be pretty easy to do.
And they could combine two or three classes and make it a 6 hour day and night Enduro race with a halftime? intermission
Let's get rid of the Slick's in favor of 1 all-weather V- Grooved Tread Tire with 2 compounds of your choice. Tires may be slick to to begin with but they will grip as the tire wears for the opposite of fall off starting with all short tracks and road courses then intermediates?keep It Simple Stupid!"Un0 -Tread"
Window nets were down Denny. It's a rule. Punk boy deserved the fine.
*Chase Briscoe is a BONEHEAD. He was sideways 300ft before the corner trying to accelerate, so the breaking zone was the last thing on his mind. Trying to pass multiple cars up the inside approaching a slick corner, while everyone else was moving outside doesn't spell SKILL. Did he expect his parachute to deploy to slow him down ? NOPE, Just hammer 2 to 3 gears down, dump the clutch, torque lock the rear diff and put the brake pedal to the floor with both feet for good measure while covering your eyes with both hands and hoping for the best. THIS is where I would insert the "...bold strategy Cotton, let's see if it plays out..." Meme from Dodgeball. Briscoe ran out of talent - Plain and Simple. Drivers like SVG DESERVE a more skilled opponent. I personally hope that SVG starts turning guys at the circle tracks and speedways, while trying to make his way through the pack rather than staying Top20 HUMBLE and driving within his limits and experience for the Circuit(s).*
In bed with a 102 degree fever after holding out through the rain delays. Was fun though!
Hope you have turned the corner!
I’m disappointed that chicagos weather couldn’t let such a great event take place but not surprised, welcome to IL weather 🤣😭
Dennys done it in practice and racing even after a race he hits cars in the left rear dumping them...
How sick would it be if temporary lighting was installed and the race started at 8pm central.
Happy Birthday Red Vest 311🎉😂
Denny was definitely on TV. Just wasn't a very flattering few seconds. 🤣
Chicago should be a morning race as they are more likely to get afternoon rains.
Why Does It Rain In The Afternoon There
It wasn't necessarily NASCAR or TV for the reason shutting down at the time they had set. the city itself has set that time for the schedule that the city had to keep as for the city ordinance and flow of traffic other scheduled businesses agreements on time
They could of finished the race, but prolonged cautions, the rain was there, but things could of been done different that would of resulted in a full race. If you want to watch a race watch indycar, if you want to watch cautions and commercials watch NASCAR.
Cool.
could test your fwd 4 door automatic camery on the highway at 45 if your lucky..... when it rains and maybe have it translate to your no door 5speed click shift.. might as well be automatic... rwd race car version of it.... ain't been done since 93'.....
the race might’ve been over but the nets are down on the car … on that bubba and bowman situation
Nice H1100 sticker. 😂
If memory serves all the laps would have been run in the dry if they would have started the race at 1230. If they want to run the race in the dry at 5:00 in the afternoon move the race to October. Saying oh shucks… bad luck again isn’t going to change afternoon t storms east of the Rocky Mountains
Denny and rain tires just don’t pair well together😂.
LuLu slander is wild Denny😭😭😭😭
I’d like to see an Atlanta or charlotte street race.
Downtown Atlanta has narrow streets.... at least they connect on a grid vs much of the city.
But the backdrop of Chicago, its skyline and gorgeous lakefront harbors .... Atlanta would not have.
Add... Chicago closed basically a expresseay in Lake Shore Drive where they could reach the high speeds.... 😅
Ask Denny do you think think Nascar could start a exhibition series and have drivers from different organizations and the top 3 series race the same car but put them at new tracks like the road courses inside the race tracks and a few new ovals to see what new race tracks the fans and drivers want to add to the schedule and also try different things that Nascar wants ro try and make it a great way to give all the newer drivers a chance to compete against the cup drivers and find a way to prove themselves more besides Friday and Saturday races
Also do you think we will get a season of racing where we the option tire at every track
Iracings rain is pretty good, I dont think the cup cars have rain tires yet but I may be wrong
Clearly haven't watched for the last 2 years then
@@TheBear1322 Huh? Rain was released less than 3 months ago on iracing..... not real life 🤣🤣
@landonmurray3814 so your tire comment wasn't about the cup cars?
Why the blue tape on the H1100 sticker on the laptop Jared?? 🧐
Did you not see the last ep???
@@mastodon98 I did not! I skipped the episode lol cause the 48 blew up 😫
At turn 5 if you were to go straight 26 miles you would be in my town. Nascar got screwed by an Indy Car race as far as I can see it looking at the TV schedule. This race should have started at noon Chicago time.
I predict Christopher Bell will win this weekend at Pocono and wins the 2024 championship
We know…😂
@@BradKeselowski6 thanks for that
I think Kyle Busch has a shot at Pocono!!
@@jasonmoore8518 maybe
I predict this dude gonna predict C-Bell next week too.
And the week after
And the week after
And the week after
And the week after
……………
This is my prediction
I think Bubba and Chase (if he hit Suarez after the race) should get penalties and I feel any issues you have should be voiced or shown out of the car on pit road. Reason I feel Bubba deserves the penalty the most is he ignored Bowman through out the red flag when apparently Bowman was trying to get ahold of him to talk it out. So this makes it feel like Bubba premeditated what he was going to do to Bowman after the race was over.
When it comes to concerts why couldn't they just do what the Indy 500 does? Indy has concerts going on during the race in the Snake Pit. What kind of atmosphere would that be like having Keith Urban going on at the same time as the race? Then towards the end of the race, the concerts stop so that full focus can be on the track. At least visually they'll be a whole lot more people at the track
Probably would suck who the hell is Keith urban must be country music sounds like a banger
I think the idea of the Chicago street race is cool, but the reality of the race these first two iterations means NASCAR needs to move a different direction in future seasons. Maybe still hold that style of race, but do it somewhere that's less likely to be affected by rain, such as LA.
There is now middle talk to your driver he is going overboard to many times
Can you adjust your brakes from front to rear and vise versa? Would think you would want them 50/50
I’d like to see st Pete on the schedule! They moved homestead up because they need another warm race early, since Fontana is out! Put homestead back as champion race!
Definitely good for NASCAR. Try to get a hotel in Chicago any weekend. Different crowd with large disposable income.
Great coverage and a lot of views.
Hotels were only $200-$250 / night
It’s pretty solid on Iracing. It’s definitely better than any game/sim out there
The puddles feel accurate
Dennis is not good at street course
"When it's me it's an accident, but when it's other people..." -this pos
As a longtime Nascar fan, I don’t think I want to listen to a lecture on racing ethics by Denny Hamlin….
I turned the channel, boring. I believe Deny can win the 2024 cup championship. A veteran.
Ironically those whom cultivated their talents on DIRT are the ones whom struggle less with the wet weather. They are also historically the most dominant on street courses and road courses too (besides full time road/street course racers).
Larson
Tyler Reddick
C-Belle
Briscoe was strong
Bowman won (strategy but he still won)
Then there’s the OG road course guys from dirt like
Jeff Gordon 9 (most wins)
Stewart 8
Except for yesterday where Larson, Bell, and Briscoe all had issues
@@kennyg9420bad day for all of them . Bell was on a tear till he got caught in a wreck.
True Denny Needs To Get Himself A Set Of 4 Wheels And Wet The Surface For Hours And Hours Till He Can Used To Sliding Around In The Wet Without Losing Control That's How He'll Get Better
How can you sit there and say 23XI is competitive and only want to win but still employ Wallace? Tyler Redick shows how good you guys really are. Bubba is holding you guys back, but money speaks louder than results.
Reddick elevates his team though, we saw this when he was winning with RCR too. Wallace hasn’t been good, but it’s not like he’s been awful either. He’s inconsistent, but he’s a good drafter. Can’t see him losing his ride if Bowman or Suarez don’t lose their rides either
@@jmarvsbowman has more wins than wallace ever will
@@TheShiveBoys bubba has more tantrums than bowman ever will
They should change road courses to 2 stages instead of 3. 40/60% or soemthing close to that.
Denny describing himself as ultra-competitive and comparing his drive to MJ on the same podcast where he questioned if it matters that he sucks in the rain is pretty funny. Denny is just describing himself the way everyone wants to describe themselves. It’s sort of like giving yourself a nickname, if you’re ultra-competitive you don’t have to tell people. Nobody describes Denny that way, he cracks under pressure is what people say about him.
Coming here to hate is pretty weird
@@TheUncancelable1 not every observation is hate, sometimes it’s just an observation
@@mlwilliam213 of course you would say that
To be fair you can choke in the moment and still be ultra competitive lol. I get what DH was saying about racing in the rain though. Might come up in 3 races in the whole year and just wants to keep his focus on his strengths bc in reality he might get better on the rain but not at this stage of his career its not gonna make a difference overall.
Red vest 311...someone help me!!! Am I the only one who thinks he sounds like Anderson Cooper?
Kinky intro, Denny
Denny Hamlin just loves talking about himself so he really doesn’t need a co-host.